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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Gym-Rat on August 25, 2022, 11:26:26 AM
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Platz, on the "Golden Era Bookworm" Podcast/YouTube, said all her ever did was:
20 mg a day - Winstrol Tab
100 mg a week - Deca
That was it, ever. :(
Not buying it...
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The Tom Platz Wig
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I always figured Tom was all natural. :D
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I went to a Platz seminar many years ago where he claimed he took enough until he started to piss blood, then he backed off a little.
Bob Paris did a seminar about a month later and claimed he was a minimal user and would not go above a certain amount, if being successful required more, he said he would retire.
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I went to a Platz seminar many years ago where he claimed he took enough until he started to piss blood, then he backed off a little.
Bob Paris did a seminar about a month later and claimed he was a minimal user and would not go above a certain amount, if being successful required more, he said he would retire.
I wouldn't believe a Word that Queer Git paris said Hell he was getting regular
if Not daily Injections up his Arse FFS
Disgusting specimen of a Human
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I wouldn't believe a Word that Queer Git paris said Hell he was getting regular
if Not daily Injections up his Arse FFS
Disgusting specimen of a Human
Don`t hold back.....tell us how you really feel !! LOL ;D
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I wouldn't believe a Word that Queer Git paris said Hell he was getting regular
if Not daily Injections up his Arse FFS
Disgusting specimen of a Human
You must have been exhausted doing all that Paris ass injecting…
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You must have been exhausted doing all that Paris ass injecting…
You Are Clearly Self projecting - Very old Tactic Blame others of What You are Guilty of Doing.
As I live & did Live on the other side of the Big Pond Between UK & America
As Big & Long as my Dick is - It certainly was not Me anywhere remotely
near Him.
Now as for You.........
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You Are Clearly Self projecting - Very old Tactic Blame others of What You are Guilty of Doing.
As I live & did Live on the other side of the Big Pond Between UK & America
As Big & Long as my Dick is - It certainly was not Me anywhere remotely
near Him.
Now as for You.........
“He doth protest too much….”
It’s okay Princess, if you’re going to fuck a man, Bob Paris was probably a good place to start.
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“He doth protest too much….”
It’s okay Princess, if you’re going to fuck a man, Bob Paris was probably a good place to start.
Very Clearly whatever your smoking / taking is messing your Brains up.
Why are you white knighting for Queer Boy Bob - You're Ex was he
or you Still attracted to Him. ::)
Good luck.
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Like with most of these guys, the figures change depending on their age and who they're talking too. Here's a 1985 seminar where he claims #100mgs of anabolics / day was his limit -
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2:40 in or so.
I've seen different claims from him also.
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As im sure ive related b4 on here. Went to Platz seminar in early 90s. Paraphrasing him but anyone who went was pretty shocked when he said he was pinning just his legs about 30 times a week. He was really straight up about everything and no doubt an amazing appetite for hard work and his chemical regimen was no different.
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Wasn't the urban legend back in the day that he was getting GH out of horse cadavers or something like that? Thats supposedly why his jaws were so big too?
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Wasn't the urban legend back in the day that he was getting GH out of horse cadavers or something like that? Thats supposedly why his jaws were so big too?
Whatever it takes…..
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He supposedly told a poster on another forum, whom I think is reliable, to do 2,000mg of Deca a week. They really loved their Deca.
Tom was a real water buffalo, the jaw was legendary. His personality wasn't very "moderate" in my opinion so why would he not push the gear, he was a real psycho :D
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Asking a bodybuilder how much he takes is like asking a woman how many guys she has slept with
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He supposedly told a poster on another forum, whom I think is reliable, to do 2,000mg of Deca a week. They really loved their Deca.
Tom was a real water buffalo, the jaw was legendary. His personality wasn't very "moderate" in my opinion so why would he not push the gear, he was a real psycho :D
He only pushed the limits of how training effected muscle growth. Drugs were always in moderation.
Asking a bodybuilder how much he takes is like asking a woman how many guys she has slept with
lol
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He supposedly told a poster on another forum, whom I think is reliable, to do 2,000mg of Deca a week. They really loved their Deca.
Tom was a real water buffalo, the jaw was legendary. His personality wasn't very "moderate" in my opinion so why would he not push the gear, he was a real psycho :D
Mentzer also loved deca. So did Eddie Robinson.
I never gave it a fair run. I was always happy with 250-500 mg of test e weekly, along with the occasional inclusion of Thai pinks. I was never a beast but I was happy with the results... I'd cite stats and lifts at my peak, but I don't want to get into the whole Thunder Bay and Bwanks comparisons :)
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Mentzer also loved deca. So did Eddie Robinson.
I never gave it a fair run. I was always happy with 250-500 mg of test e weekly, along with the occasional inclusion of Thai pinks. I was never a beast but I was happy with the results... I'd cite stats and lifts at my peak, but I don't want to get into the whole Thunder Bay and Bwanks comparisons :)
They all thought test was for "masculinity" and all the rest were for muscle growth, as that was what they were designed for. But just because the others were comparatively more anabolic than androgenic doesn't mean they were ultimately more anabolic period. I think test is more anabolic than all the rest except Tren. I usually cannot much distinguish Deca from Test when I add it in, don't know if I even get much of the joint relief. Now tren is a different matter, that I notice in a day when added in, the sex drive primarily and the night sweats and mood effects.
There are some big guys in my gym who only do very large doses of test, maybe add in some Parabolan sometimes. Orals and other compounds are for precontest only.
Thai pinks were nice, haven't seen them for more than a decade.
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I found pictures of Tom Platz’s cycle
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2f/c8/00/2fc8005a6c84c6afcd7300733cc01815.jpg)
(https://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/im/im4704.jpg)
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I found pictures of Tom Platz’s cycle
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2f/c8/00/2fc8005a6c84c6afcd7300733cc01815.jpg)
(https://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/im/im4704.jpg)
I heard he switched to Schwinn after he blew out his Huffy receptors.
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Like everyone else, he used as much as he could withstand.
Deca in high doses is pretty amazing.
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I heard he switched to Schwinn after he blew out his Huffy receptors.
;D ;D ;D
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Asking a bodybuilder how much he takes is like asking a woman how many guys she has slept with
LMAO!
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Mentzer also loved deca. So did Eddie Robinson.
I never gave it a fair run. I was always happy with 250-500 mg of test e weekly, along with the occasional inclusion of Thai pinks. I was never a beast but I was happy with the results... I'd cite stats and lifts at my peak, but I don't want to get into the whole Thunder Bay and Bwanks comparisons :)
:D
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He is so old he has just forgotten.
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his personality wasn't very "moderate" in my opinion so why would he not push the gear, he was a real psycho :D
boom
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There was an old timer on here I think that knew Tom when he lived with room mates, same time he had the corvette. Anyways he said Tom kept Dbol in a cookie type jar in the kitchen and bed just grab basically a handful and go on with his day.
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boom
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There was an old timer on here I think that knew Tom when he lived with room mates, same time he had the corvette. Anyways he said Tom kept Dbol in a cookie type jar in the kitchen and bed just grab basically a handful and go on with his day.
That was pretty common at the time for bodybuilders.
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Platz must be related to Lee Priest.
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So it wasn't all hard training and diet?
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So it was all hard trenning and deca?
:P
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Would be great to wear salmon polos and ride bikes with Tom (nh)
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Wasn't the urban legend back in the day that he was getting GH out of horse cadavers or something like that? Thats supposedly why his jaws were so big too?
He would suck large cocks on cycle so naturally the jaws would experience growth. He threw the GH cadaver bullshit out there to throw off the dogs.
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He would suck large cocks on cycle so naturally the jaws would experience growth. He threw the GH cadaver bullshit out there to throw off the dogs.
https://www.si.com/more-sports/2008/03/11/steroids-godfather
One strength athlete, who now works for an NFL team, showed Fitton (Tony) a bottle he'd purchased for $500 that purported to contain gorilla growth hormone extracted from the animal's brain. After examining the bottle, Fitton informed the lifter with a laugh that he'd been duped into buying a few bucks' worth of Deca. "I asked him," Fitton says, " 'How common do you think gorilla brains are? It's a bloody endangered species!' "
"I had no contact with him (Fitton)," says Kim Wood, the Cincinnati Bengals strength coach from 1975 through 2002, "but it was known in the strength world, if you wanted to cheat, this guy, working out of a little post office in Alabama, was the guy. Tony Fitton was doctor and pharmacist."
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He would suck large cocks on cycle so naturally the jaws would experience growth. He threw the GH cadaver bullshit out there to throw off the dogs.
LOL!
Nothing "urban legend" about that..
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https://www.si.com/more-sports/2008/03/11/steroids-godfather
One strength athlete, who now works for an NFL team, showed Fitton (Tony) a bottle he'd purchased for $500 that purported to contain gorilla growth hormone extracted from the animal's brain. After examining the bottle, Fitton informed the lifter with a laugh that he'd been duped into buying a few bucks' worth of Deca. "I asked him," Fitton says, " 'How common do you think gorilla brains are? It's a bloody endangered species!' "
Pacifico was was a monkey GH source, Steve Michalik used it for awhile too.
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World is full of liars. There are a small handful of people that I allow in my life because I trust them. Fuck the rest!
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https://www.si.com/more-sports/2008/03/11/steroids-godfather
One strength athlete, who now works for an NFL team, showed Fitton (Tony) a bottle he'd purchased for $500 that purported to contain gorilla growth hormone extracted from the animal's brain. After examining the bottle, Fitton informed the lifter with a laugh that he'd been duped into buying a few bucks' worth of Deca. "I asked him," Fitton says, " 'How common do you think gorilla brains are? It's a bloody endangered species!' "
"I had no contact with him (Fitton)," says Kim Wood, the Cincinnati Bengals strength coach from 1975 through 2002, "but it was known in the strength world, if you wanted to cheat, this guy, working out of a little post office in Alabama, was the guy. Tony Fitton was doctor and pharmacist."
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Like with most of these guys, the figures change depending on their age and who they're talking too. Here's a 1985 seminar where he claims #100mgs of anabolics / day was his limit -
and how many days has his week ? 500 :D
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A bodybuilder lying about his usage?
(https://fbfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/say-it-aint-so.jpg)
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They think it makes them look more legit if they just used a little while everyone else was using a lot.
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Not necessarily drug related but what caused the swollen ankle or ankles in '81, noticeable in a particular photoshoot?
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXhZStTW/tom-platz-intervieddddw2-a.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/cLKm82Yy/wrttwtrwrw.jpg)
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Not necessarily drug related but what caused the swollen ankle or ankles in '81, noticeable in a particular photoshoot?
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXhZStTW/tom-platz-intervieddddw2-a.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/cLKm82Yy/wrttwtrwrw.jpg)
funky cold edema
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I rather listen to the tom platz wig story
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Not necessarily drug related but what caused the swollen ankle or ankles in '81, noticeable in a particular photoshoot?
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXhZStTW/tom-platz-intervieddddw2-a.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/cLKm82Yy/wrttwtrwrw.jpg)
stingray venom
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funky cold edema
Maybe his dog did the wild thing on his leg
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I remember an article about Schwarzy relating a story about swollen ankles(I think) just prior to the 1980 Mr O and desperately taking cortisone so they wouldn't look bad on stage.
Arnold could have been temporarily afflicted by latent Christopher Schwarzenegger/sauropod ankle genes expressing themselves, for all we know.
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Not necessarily drug related but what caused the swollen ankle or ankles in '81, noticeable in a particular photoshoot?
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXhZStTW/tom-platz-intervieddddw2-a.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/cLKm82Yy/wrttwtrwrw.jpg)
That is drug related for sure. Either he got this swollen from the steroids or, if this was shot after a show, drug rebound. If it's not a diuretic rebound, which steroids worsen, then it's a very bad sign. I know a lot of bodybuilders who shit themselves on the rebound after a show, which is made worse if your traveling after a show, either a long plane flight
or even sitting immobile in a car. "Pray to God this goes away soon" is the thought process. Many taper their diuretics to mitigate a nasty rebound, probably healthier too. I've got some pics of ankles on my phone, "bro you think I'm going to be ok?" Sometimes they can't even wear their normal shoes.
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Wasn't the urban legend back in the day that he was getting GH out of horse cadavers or something like that? Thats supposedly why his jaws were so big too?
I bet that sick son of a bitch fucked that poor horsey up the ass and said take that cock mr Ed I’m Tom plate!
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That is drug related for sure. Either he got this swollen from the steroids or, if this was shot after a show, drug rebound. If it's not a diuretic rebound, which steroids worsen, then it's a very bad sign. I know a lot of bodybuilders who shit themselves on the rebound after a show, which is made worse if your traveling after a show, either a long plane flight
or even sitting immobile in a car. "Pray to God this goes away soon" is the thought process. Many taper their diuretics to mitigate a nasty rebound, probably healthier too. I've got some pics of ankles on my phone, "bro you think I'm going to be ok?" Sometimes they can't even wear their normal shoes.
Thanks Van_Bilderass. That reminds of what I mentioned briefly above about Schwarzenegger but I'm relaying it from something I read a long time ago and might be misremembering and butchering the facts. Schwarzenegger said, I think, that he drank alcohol before the 80 O and it made his ankles really swollen, so he panicked and I believe took cortisone and did a bunch of aerobics/sweating to bring down the swelling. I don't have the article and aspects of that could be off.
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Thanks Van_Bilderass. That reminds of what I mentioned briefly above about Schwarzenegger but I'm relaying it from something I read a long time ago and might be misremembering and butchering the facts. Schwarzenegger said, I think, that he drank alcohol before the 80 O and it made his ankles really swollen, so he panicked and I believe took cortisone and did a bunch of aerobics/sweating to bring down the swelling. I don't have the article and aspects of that could be off.
Taking cortisone to reduce water retention sounds completely counterintuitive. And you could never trust Arnold to tell the truth so who knows and if he made up some story, well, it's Arnold :D
In another thread someone said another pro bb said Arnold took a shot of cortisone to deal with a shoulder problem weeks before the O and it had some negative effects. That sounds logical. I remember Dorian said he was forced to take cortisone before one of the Olympias to be able to train at all and he too said it wasn't good for the conditioning. Though I don't know how much a local injection is supposed to affect bodily systems, the shot is supposed to mostly stay localised. Now if Arnold's cortisone shot was some kind of systemic corticoid (are there any, I don't know?) then that could be horrendous - oral corticoids cause crazy water retention, moon face, metabolic disturbances. I noticed nothing negative from taking a series Depo-Medrol shot for my shoulder but I'm not a contest ready bb.
3 weeks of cortisone example
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Taking cortisone to reduce water retention sounds completely counterintuitive. And you could never trust Arnold to tell the truth so who knows and if he made up some story, well, it's Arnold :D
In another thread someone said another pro bb said Arnold took a shot of cortisone to deal with a shoulder problem weeks before the O and it had some negative effects. That sounds logical. I remember Dorian said he was forced to take cortisone before one of the Olympias to be able to train at all and he too said it wasn't good for the conditioning. Though I don't know how much a local injection is supposed to affect bodily systems, the shot is supposed to mostly stay localised. Now if Arnold's cortisone shot was some kind of systemic corticoid (are there any, I don't know?) then that could be horrendous - oral corticoids cause crazy water retention, moon face, metabolic disturbances. I noticed nothing negative from taking a series Depo-Medrol shot for my shoulder but I'm not a contest ready bb.
3 weeks of cortisone example
What you're describing re Arnold sounds more familiar. The cortisone shot was for the shoulder and then he posed for hours trying to lose water. I think I was conflating 2 different stories(at best). :-X I read it years ago in a back issue of M&F but this mention I just found in Ironman online is a retelling:
"When Arnold arrived in Sydney, his friend Franco Columbu watched him pose in his hotel room and asked him what the hell happened? Arnold was retaining water and he didn’t look like the same physique when he posed at World Gym in California. Franco asked Arnold if he was taking any drugs. “Just the usual steroids”, Arnold replied. When Arnold admitted that he also took a cortisone shot for a shoulder injury that he had incurred in his intense training for the contest, Franco hit the roof! “You idiot, how are we going to get the water out?” The former 6 time Mr. Olympia spent most of his evening posing and posing and posing in order to shed the excess water retention caused by the cortisone shot. It was early in the morning before Arnold finally collapsed on his hotel room bed, exhausted from his spartan effort to shed the water from his physique."
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I can personally tell you from training with Bob back in the day that he took hardly anything.
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Tom is a nutcase, very unbalanced physique too, gigantic legs, not enough arms
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Asking a bodybuilder how much he takes is like asking a woman how many guys she has slept with
Lmfao
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Tom is a nutcase, very unbalanced physique too, gigantic legs, not enough arms
Are you saying he’s good, but he lacks too many things? His arms aren't big enough to match his legs?
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not sure if its the same person but if it is she looks better , she was a miserable looking fucker before
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funky cold edema
:D
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Are you saying he’s good, but he lacks too many things? His arms are big enough to match his legs?
He needed 24'' arms to match his legs, instead he only had like 19'' arms
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3 weeks of cortisone example
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=680630.0;attach=1389489;image)
2, 1.
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=680630.0;attach=1389490;image)
not sure if its the same person but if it is she looks better , she was a miserable looking fucker before
Supposed to be the same person, 21 days between pics. She does look happier. Or maybe it's the steroid mania/euphoria which even Trump was said to suffer from after his hospital visit :D It is a well know side.
Crazy how much different cortisone can make you look.
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=680630.0;attach=1389490;image)
not sure if its the same person but if it is she looks better , she was a miserable looking fucker before
She went from Black Dahlia to Betty Page. :D
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What you're describing re Arnold sounds more familiar. The cortisone shot was for the shoulder and then he posed for hours trying to lose water. I think I was conflating 2 different stories(at best). :-X I read it years ago in a back issue of M&F but this mention I just found in Ironman online is a retelling:
"When Arnold arrived in Sydney, his friend Franco Columbu watched him pose in his hotel room and asked him what the hell happened? Arnold was retaining water and he didn’t look like the same physique when he posed at World Gym in California. Franco asked Arnold if he was taking any drugs. “Just the usual steroids”, Arnold replied. When Arnold admitted that he also took a cortisone shot for a shoulder injury that he had incurred in his intense training for the contest, Franco hit the roof! “You idiot, how are we going to get the water out?” The former 6 time Mr. Olympia spent most of his evening posing and posing and posing in order to shed the excess water retention caused by the cortisone shot. It was early in the morning before Arnold finally collapsed on his hotel room bed, exhausted from his spartan effort to shed the water from his physique."
Arnold would do anything to win. Never seen such drive in a person.
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=680630.0;attach=1389490;image)
Any pics of her Tits Before & After ?
Did they Fill out also. ?
;D
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I can personally tell you from training with Bob back in the day that he took hardly anything.
At the same time he said he spent a ton of money for a tiny dose of prescription Protropin, the first recombinant rhGH. The doses were too low due to cost to do much but him going through the trouble of aquiring it he was looking for the "edge" basically just on rumor that it would "work." Surely this guy would try to max out the roids just like everyone else.
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I bet that sick son of a bitch fucked that poor horsey up the ass and said take that cock mr Ed I’m Tom plate!
You say that as if it's a bad thing. Guy was willing to do what it takes to win.
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Are you saying he’s good, but he lacks too many things? His arms aren't big enough to match his legs?
Bro...
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That is drug related for sure. Either he got this swollen from the steroids or, if this was shot after a show, drug rebound. If it's not a diuretic rebound, which steroids worsen, then it's a very bad sign. I know a lot of bodybuilders who shit themselves on the rebound after a show, which is made worse if your traveling after a show, either a long plane flight
or even sitting immobile in a car. "Pray to God this goes away soon" is the thought process. Many taper their diuretics to mitigate a nasty rebound, probably healthier too. I've got some pics of ankles on my phone, "bro you think I'm going to be ok?" Sometimes they can't even wear their normal shoes.
I only had big calves once in my life. When I stood up after a 7 hour flight lol. I sat through the entire flight. Not kidding. They were swollen AF
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I only had big calves once in my life. When I stood up after a 7 hour flight lol. I sat through the entire flight. Not kidding. They were swollen AF
It's not that uncommon. Some people even end up with life threatening blood clots after long flights, some of whom maybe had a clotting disorder they didn't know about. Some bodybuilders take diuretics before flights or long roadtrips :D A lot of times bodybuilders will blame their poor conditioning on travelling too close to the show. I have recommended compression socks before flights, might help.
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It's always worth remembering his personality too - the Golden Era Doc (84 O) is a great watch if you're an old fart, and when it comes to Platz, the first 10 minutes or so is gold - you can almost hear him grinding gears when he tries to maximise the positivity, then brag, then be humble, etc... he can't keep up with his own stream of consciousness... ;D
(And Joe Weider had dark hair once!??!)
His description of body parts as emotions around 6:50 is so funny ;D
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=680630.0;attach=1389490;image)
Any pics of her Tits Before & After ?
Did they Fill out also. ?
;D
Would hit
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Repost - always lusted after Bergman... grr... :P
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Repost - always lusted after Bergman... grr... :P
She was a cute little number.
The current version, not so much.
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It's always worth remembering his personality too - the Golden Era Doc (84 O) is a great watch if you're an old fart, and when it comes to Platz, the first 10 minutes or so is gold - you can almost hear him grinding gears when he tries to maximise the positivity, then brag, then be humble, etc... he can't keep up with his own stream of consciousness... ;D
(And Joe Weider had dark hair once!??!)
His description of body parts as emotions around 6:50 is so funny ;D
Wonder where I can get that Tom Platz action-figure at 3:20.
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Wonder where I can get that Tom Platz action-figure at 3:20.
I imagine Tom would sell it to you for a few bucks... ;D
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Tom stopping all Testosterone Really didn't do him any good
rebounded with Huge levels of Female hormones ::)
He Should load back up on Test & Regain some Masculinity,
He's looking like my GrandMother.!!!
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Tom looks like my dead fucking grandfather.........GEEZ US!!
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Tom looks like my dead fucking grandfather.........GEEZ US!!
Your grandfather looked like an old, weathered dyke?
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Your grandfather looked like an old, weathered dyke?
Bro...
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=680630.0;attach=1389490;image)
Any pics of her Tits Before & After ?
Did they Fill out also. ?
;D
Lovely.