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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: affeman on October 10, 2022, 11:01:52 AM
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haha you can see Dorian is not amused at all, he'd have slapped Milos if they were in the same room @20:25 :D
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I mean, I’d rather take Milo’s advice on training, diet, and drugs. You are going to grow regardless though when you’re taking 2 grams of test.
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They should compare Sandows….oh wait.
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They should compare Sandows….oh wait.
Dorian was more successful as an athlete, but Milos is the better coach.
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Dorian was more successful as an athlete, but Milos is the better coach.
Nobody can deny the Milos protocols. Nobody.
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Both Nasser and Dorian supposedly banged Milos’s wife
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Both Nasser and Dorian supposedly banged Milos’s wife
So you’re giving the nod to Dorian in this one?
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Both Nasser and Dorian supposedly banged Milos’s wife
I'm sure they'd do a Podcast together if that was the case ::)
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Both Nasser and Dorian supposedly banged Milos’s wife
I always thought it was just Nasser.
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So you’re giving the nod to Dorian in this one?
I can't speak to HIIT cardio X times weekly vs. jogging/fast walking at 4-5 mph four an hour daily. If someone's so wrapped around the axle about it, why not do both? Do your sprints, then go for a longer but easier run -- or vice versa. If that initially impacts your weight training, give it a couple of weeks to acclimate, then reassess.
Otherwise, I'm mostly with Doz on this, at least on the weights part of the equation.
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I can't speak to HIIT cardio X times weekly vs. jogging/fast walking at 4-5 mph four an hour daily. If someone's so wrapped around the axle about it, why not do both? Do your sprints, then go for a longer but easier run -- or vice versa. If that initially impacts your weight training, give it a couple of weeks to acclimate, then reassess.
Otherwise, I'm mostly with Doz on this, at least on the weights part of the equation.
Same here
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Dorian was more successful as an athlete, but Milos is the better coach.
I'm with Milos on this.
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They should compare Sandows….oh wait.
Better yet they should compare cocks
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Better yet they should compare cocks
That’s what I really wanted to say but was too scared! (Nh)
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Nobody can deny the Milos protocols. Nobody.
Luke wood spoke highly of Mishko and his programs.
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So you’re giving the nod to Dorian in this one?
Yes!
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I always thought it was just Nasser.
I thought that she picked up Dorian at the airport... and things took an unexpected turn
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I thought that she picked up Dorian at the airport... and things took an unexpected turn
Lmao!
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Thanks for posting. Watching Doz and Milos bicker was surprisingly entertaining.
Body types are different and what worked for Doz ain't gonna work for everybody and vice versa.
I remember reading about Mike Tyson in his teenage years would walk home from the boxing gym and pick up a pizza and a gallon of ice cream then eat both on his walk home. Now, is the story an exaggeration? Probably to some degree. But it's probably also somewhat rooted in truth. My point is before he was a professional he ate like shit and was still lean and muscular. But 99% of people could train and eat exactly like him and not get anywhere close to the same results.
So Doz hit style worked for him but the people he trains haven't achieved his level of success. Doz also says he hated working out, he said he was miserable when he was a pro bodybuilder. So going to the gym 3× a week was ideal for his mentality. Ronnie on the other hand lovex worki g out. Always wanting to train and always happy to train. Remember Jay Cutler talking about Coleman getting off a lo g plane trip and findi g a gym to do squats? That's how much he loved doing it. Going to the gym 3× a week wasn't gonna cut it for Ronnie.
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Milos is very annoying and doesn't consider things outside his line of thinking even when you bring proof. I've been through this with him on fasting. He knows jack shit and becomes very condescending.
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IMO Dorian is superior on training. I think Milos track record with his athletes tells the story. He thinks insulin combined with endurance training causes the greatest pump so that the pump eventually translates into muscle. Blood flow is way way down on factors that may influence muscle growth. However I like the insulin before and after training.
The best is: progressive resistance and close to/or complete failure sets. The volume needed is miniscule.
Milos' athletes usually do not come in extra grainy and dry either. He did hav some Iranian recently that was scary hard but that's mostly genetic since he was as hard previously.
In the late 90s Milos guaranteed 30lbs of pure stage muscle on ANY guy who did insulin his way. Didn't quite work that way. A friend of mine who was with Milos for years didn't really gain anything with it.
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Thanks for posting. Watching Doz and Milos bicker was surprisingly entertaining.
Body types are different and what worked for Doz ain't gonna work for everybody and vice versa.
I remember reading about Mike Tyson in his teenage years would walk home from the boxing gym and pick up a pizza and a gallon of ice cream then eat both on his walk home. Now, is the story an exaggeration? Probably to some degree. But it's probably also somewhat rooted in truth. My point is before he was a professional he ate like shit and was still lean and muscular. But 99% of people could train and eat exactly like him and not get anywhere close to the same results.
So Doz hit style worked for him but the people he trains haven't achieved his level of success. Doz also says he hated working out, he said he was miserable when he was a pro bodybuilder. So going to the gym 3× a week was ideal for his mentality. Ronnie on the other hand lovex worki g out. Always wanting to train and always happy to train. Remember Jay Cutler talking about Coleman getting off a lo g plane trip and findi g a gym to do squats? That's how much he loved doing it. Going to the gym 3× a week wasn't gonna cut it for Ronnie.
I wouldn’t say 99 percent of the population can’t eat like that and look like that, that percentile is highly exaggerated, especially when teens and young adults for the most part can eat like shit and still look lean and fairly muscular given they are consistent with training
Now I would say 99 percent of the population are not gifted in terms of Mike Tyson’s skills as an athlete and boxer, same goes for tiger woods, Mike trout, Usian bolt, etc
Physiques are highly exaggerated as a lot more people in the population can achieve these physiques to a degree given “decent” genetics and drugs
Bbers like to think of themselves as the one percentile but majority of the population arent interested in this fa ggotry and doing all the gear
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Cardio is BS, I agree with Dorian, intensity is the key.
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Thanks for posting. Watching Doz and Milos bicker was surprisingly entertaining.
Body types are different and what worked for Doz ain't gonna work for everybody and vice versa.
I remember reading about Mike Tyson in his teenage years would walk home from the boxing gym and pick up a pizza and a gallon of ice cream then eat both on his walk home. Now, is the story an exaggeration? Probably to some degree. But it's probably also somewhat rooted in truth. My point is before he was a professional he ate like shit and was still lean and muscular. But 99% of people could train and eat exactly like him and not get anywhere close to the same results.
So Doz hit style worked for him but the people he trains haven't achieved his level of success. Doz also says he hated working out, he said he was miserable when he was a pro bodybuilder. So going to the gym 3× a week was ideal for his mentality. Ronnie on the other hand lovex worki g out. Always wanting to train and always happy to train. Remember Jay Cutler talking about Coleman getting off a lo g plane trip and findi g a gym to do squats? That's how much he loved doing it. Going to the gym 3× a week wasn't gonna cut it for Ronnie.
You're talking boxing. Basically HIIT training for hours, not 10 minutes. Safe to say his caloric expenditure is through the roof. Especially as a HW boxer.
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Both Nasser and Dorian supposedly banged Milos’s wife
Wasn't she a professional whore? Probably a lot of guys banged her.
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Wasn't she a professional whore? Probably a lot of guys banged her.
She was hot, what is she up to these days? (must bei 50+ by now ???)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/ce/34/f3ce341817258e2afac306d5af28979a.jpg) (https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/672052.jpg)
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Dorian was more successful as an athlete, but Milos is the better coach.
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She was hot, what is she up to these days? (must bei 50+ by now ???)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/ce/34/f3ce341817258e2afac306d5af28979a.jpg) (https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/672052.jpg)
She loved Nasser's cute (small) penis.
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Lets be fair dorians only marker was vo2 max
Not bone density
Not health markers of organs
Not leg strength it could be argued vo2 max is the same
Not blood pressure ect
Imo just being active is enough
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Milos is very annoying and doesn't consider things outside his line of thinking even when you bring proof. I've been through this with him on fasting. He knows jack shit and becomes very condescending.
Milos has also fried several peoples kidneys as well
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Milos has also fried several peoples kidneys as well
What guru hasn’t? You’re not a guru unless you fry some organs!
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Wasn't she a professional whore? Probably a lot of guys banged her.
Like many gym sluts, she was an escort and banged all sorts of guys.
She also was part of Milos' demise and stole from him towards the end.
When Milos had his Colosseum gym and website, Milos posted all the juicy details before taking them down a few weeks later.
Knowing Milos and his scam artist ways and drug problems, who knows what really happen.
I think Dorian's way of training for intensity has merit if you are on a healthy dose of AAS. I never bought into Milos' training, as it seemed more of a gimmick. Milos is a con artist.
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What guru hasn’t? You’re not a guru unless you fry some organs!
“If the kidney ain’t frying, you ain’t trying”
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Like many gym sluts, she was an escort and banged all sorts of guys.
She also was part of Milos' demise and stole from him towards the end.
When Milos had his Colosseum gym and website, Milos posted all the juicy details before taking them down a few weeks later.
Knowing Milos and his scam artist ways and drug problems, who knows what really happen.
I think Dorian's way of training for intensity has merit if you are on a healthy dose of AAS. I never bought into Milos' training, as it seemed more of a gimmick. Milos is a con artist.
Milos is a Serb and Serbs are known for conning people. Like it‘s in their blood or something
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Milos is a Serb and Serbs are known for conning people. Like it‘s in their blood or something
You combine that with being a bber you have a pro con artist that cannot be trusted
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Like many gym sluts, she was an escort and banged all sorts of guys.
She also was part of Milos' demise and stole from him towards the end.
When Milos had his Colosseum gym and website, Milos posted all the juicy details before taking them down a few weeks later.
Knowing Milos and his scam artist ways and drug problems, who knows what really happen.
I think Dorian's way of training for intensity has merit if you are on a healthy dose of AAS. I never bought into Milos' training, as it seemed more of a gimmick. Milos is a con artist.
Milos way of training sucks.
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Nobody can deny the Milos protocols. Nobody.
Luke Wood would like a word!
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Like many gym sluts, she was an escort and banged all sorts of guys.
She also was part of Milos' demise and stole from him towards the end.
When Milos had his Colosseum gym and website, Milos posted all the juicy details before taking them down a few weeks later.
Knowing Milos and his scam artist ways and drug problems, who knows what really happen.
I think Dorian's way of training for intensity has merit if you are on a healthy dose of AAS. I never bought into Milos' training, as it seemed more of a gimmick. Milos is a con artist.
The thread where Nasser was ripping Milos and talked about fucking his wife was a Getbig classic.
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Luke Wood would like a word!
Got an ouija board I could borrow, bro?
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Got an ouija board I could borrow, bro?
As an Aussie myself I'm not sure a ouija board has enough vowels to be able to let Luke express himself in proper Aussie English.
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As an Aussie myself I'm not sure a ouija board has enough vowels to be able to let Luke express himself in proper Aussie English.
;D ;D
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Milos is much more refined than Hannibal Lecter. He cooks their organs while alive.
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https://fitnessvolt.com/dorian-yates-training-mindset/?fbclid=IwAR36AndgyUfRdRg47ZZdhcC6N6g_DmAiCjIFfP1rRBYVoAV_x23dnu46NzA
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Does anyone remember the time when Milos said that he wanted to fight Randy Couture in a UFC bout?
Milos thought that it would be a fight that “a lot of people would want to see”.
😂😂😂😂😂
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Does anyone remember the time when Milos said that he wanted to fight Randy Couture in a UFC bout?
Milos thought that it would be a fight that “a lot of people would want to see”.
😂😂😂😂😂
Yep, the families of the competitors hes fucked up
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I love Milos but Dorian is crushing him in this debate.
Plus, it's pretty clear that Dorian is the alpha in the conversation juste from his voice tone, his mimics.
Calm as water
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The best bb milos had was Dennis wolf and wolf did not stay with him long he looks like shit now to
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The best bb milos had was Dennis wolf and wolf did not stay with him long he looks like shit now to
Milos was never the coach of Dennis Wolf. Dennis just trained at the Colosseum gym for free when he first came to the US for a couple of weeks and posed for some pics and videos with Milos because he had to make a name for himself too, but Milos never actually prepped Dennis.
I remember that Wolf even ridiculed Milos' giant set training crap on a german board years ago and said no one would ever build any muscles with that BS style of training lol
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Milos was never the coach of Dennis Wolf. Dennis just trained at the Colosseum gym for free when he first came to the US for a couple of weeks and posed for some pics and videos with Milos because he had to make a name for himself too, but Milos never actually prepped Dennis.
I remember that Wolf even ridiculed Milos' giant set training crap on a german board years ago and said no one would ever build any muscles with that BS style of training lol
ahhh thanks for the correction because milos made it seem like on here when he was posting that he was wolfs main trainer and prep guy.milos is a scum bag who beat his wife fried kidneys and now is sucking off reagan grimes iris kyle kicked him out of her gym because the members where bitching he was tacking up all the equipment, he is a piece of shit in general
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Milos trained twice a day 6 days a week. Dorian trained 45 minutes a day 4 days a week. Dorian actually ate less calories than Milos, yet was way more muscular, dense, and conditioned. So you do the math.
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I remember getting into an argument with Milos about why he couldn't get his arms bigger. He considered that he had tried all methods and in desperation chose to use oil as an enhancement. Looked ridiculous and he almost died when an artery was hit during an injection. Well, we never did have a full discussion about how he might have increased his arms more. At first he was dismissive and not at all pleased. We did get to sort things out but have never met in person. Then his ex stole his gym from him and he had to leave the USA. He finally returned after many years.
I don't subscribe to giant set training. Might be quite effective to many and perhaps for a short period. That kind of training isn't suitable in a commercial gym because you tie up several pieces of equipment.
I doubt Dorian used HIT methods to get bigger. He probably found it okay to retain size. Eventually high intensity training will result in injuries. So even if it is effective for short periods it can't be used long term because it is dangerous compared to volume training that almost all the pros use. Arnold, Sergio, Larry, Ronnie, enough said.
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Both Nasser and Dorian supposedly banged Milos’s wife
Bro...
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I remember getting into an argument with Milos about why he couldn't get his arms bigger.
The Serbs have never been big supinators.
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Who wins in a fight Dorian or Milos?
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Mishko almost killed himself with Synthol use
As a coach, his arrogance killed people.
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ahhh thanks for the correction because milos made it seem like on here when he was posting that he was wolfs main trainer and prep guy.
I think he had become his prep coach in retrospect after Wolf had placed Top 5 at the Olympia ;D
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I remember getting into an argument with Milos about why he couldn't get his arms bigger. He considered that he had tried all methods and in desperation chose to use oil as an enhancement. Looked ridiculous and he almost died when an artery was hit during an injection. Well, we never did have a full discussion about how he might have increased his arms more. At first he was dismissive and not at all pleased. We did get to sort things out but have never met in person. Then his ex stole his gym from him and he had to leave the USA. He finally returned after many years.
I don't subscribe to giant set training. Might be quite effective to many and perhaps for a short period. That kind of training isn't suitable in a commercial gym because you tie up several pieces of equipment.
I doubt Dorian used HIT methods to get bigger. He probably found it okay to retain size. Eventually high intensity training will result in injuries. So even if it is effective for short periods it can't be used long term because it is dangerous compared to volume training that almost all the pros use. Arnold, Sergio, Larry, Ronnie, enough said.
And what was your recommendation to him to get Bigger arms ............
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Who is Milo’s’ most successful client?
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Who is Milo’s’ most successful client?
Kris Dim
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Who is Milo’s’ most successful client?
Milos claims to have guru'ed for James “Flex” Lewis, Dennis James, Nasser El Sonbaty, Danny Hester, Flex Wheeler, Markus Ruhl, Melvin Anthony, Ben Pakulski, Hidetada Yamagishi, Chris Cormier, Toney Freeman, John Meadows, Regan Grimes, Kris Dim, and Krizo.
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And what was your recommendation to him to get Bigger arms ............
High volume and frequency. There was a thread years ago where he spelled it out.
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Who is Milo’s’ most successful client?
:D
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Any updates on his hot slutty wife?
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Any updates on his hot slutty wife?
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They aren’t together anymore, no surprise there
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Milos has trained a lot of pros, but for some reason none of them stay with him. Wolf, Gustavo, Hide, DJ, Max Charles, Ben Chow, Jordan Peters. They do a short stint then leave, whereas guys like Rambod, Chad, Aceto have guys that stick with them for years if not their entire career. So it makes you wonder why🤔
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What do you guys think of this video ?
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They aren’t together anymore, no surprise there
Let us remember them in better days -
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New dude clapping the cheeks? -
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https://www.facebook.com/majakrsticmiss .
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What do you guys think of this video ?
Odd.
Boyer is utterly exhausted after the first few exercises. Utilizing the weider rest-pause principle :D. Seems more like a cardio workout in the way breathing squats are.
Boyer, clearly off the sauce, did not duplicate the results of the Colorado experiment. In fact no one has. That whole series of films was supposed to be proof positive affirming the results of Casey Viator. But it was never completed because no one made progress.
Even when talking about Casey people say 'well muscle memory was a factor' but what about Boyer? He was small here, didn't respond to the training, he had already been a bodybuilder for years but he doesn't possess 'muscle memory.'?
Boyer was training hard, theres no doubt about that. The equipment looks like it was super high quality (I had a membership at a health club when I was a teenager that only had nautilus equipment and I do remember it being very well manufactured) but the video realistically shows nothing and I don't believe I would respond very well to that routine. The environment, the atmosphere and the vaguely creepy presence of AJ would ruin my mental state before I even began but props to Boyer for being a good sport.
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Boyer was clearly off steroids in that clip (well I fucking hope so).
If he was, it's obvious he would not get any results.
I have never trained this way but I think about trying it
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New dude clapping the cheeks? -
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https://www.facebook.com/majakrsticmiss .
She's not even hot.
His wife Milamar was hot IMO.
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Kris Dim
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That’s quite the dedication, heart attack, almost died, completely fucked up and can’t walk ever again, but still gearing it up and competing in a wheel chair! Bbers are tough
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Cmon, Dorian's genetics gave him his build. Nothing to do with HIT training. Maybe if he actually backed off the weight and did more volume he wouldn't have ended up such a torn up mess. This belief he put out that he worked so hard and his genetics weren't that good was his own propaganda. His genetics were insane and he had amazing structure
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Cmon, Dorian's genetics gave him his build. Nothing to do with HIT training. Maybe if he actually backed off the weight and did more volume he wouldn't have ended up such a torn up mess. This belief he put out that he worked so hard and his genetics weren't that good was his own propaganda. His genetics were insane and he had amazing structure
I agree. Heavy weights and high intensity plus brief workouts = recipe for injuries. In the photo his right biceps looks smaller and shorter than his left biceps.
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High volume and frequency. There was a thread years ago where he spelled it out.
Highly likely Milos had tried that i'd say.
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Going back to the original Dennis James podcast video...
WTF is up with Chris Cormier? He can hardly string a coherent sentence together. Sounds stoned or punchy.... I remember interviews with him back in the day and he seemed fairly articulate then. It's painful listening to him now in this video.
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Going back to the original Dennis James podcast video...
WTF is up with Chris Cormier? He can hardly string a coherent sentence together. Sounds stoned or punchy.... I remember interviews with him back in the day and he seemed fairly articulate then. It's painful listening to him now in this video.
It’s CTE from years of competing, very physical sport that takes a toll on ones body over time
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Going back to the original Dennis James podcast video...
WTF is up with Chris Cormier? He can hardly string a coherent sentence together. Sounds stoned or punchy.... I remember interviews with him back in the day and he seemed fairly articulate then. It's painful listening to him now in this video.
Yeah I've noticed this on the show with he and Terrick El Guindy. It sounds like he smokes too much over the years as his ability to recall names and words seem limited. I was like that when I smoked and didn't like it all. It takes 29 months of cessation for frontal lobe to return fully functional. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say he still smokes. He and Terrick are a pretty funny combo.
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Yeah I've noticed this on the show with he and Terrick El Guindy. It sounds like he smokes too much over the years as his ability to recall names and words seem limited. I was like that when I smoked and didn't like it all. It takes 29 months of cessation for frontal lobe to return fully functional. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say he still smokes. He and Terrick are a pretty funny combo.
that not smoking big dogg
wasn't it rumored that Chris torn his tricep at one time riding his bike on gh.b and fell off ?
side note _ I was in Dragons Liar a few weeks ago and saw Milos training some old guy - I wanted to say something but I needed to take an uber to get herb and it was Friday afternoon
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that not smoking big dogg
wasn't it rumored that Chris torn his tricep at one time riding his bike on gh.b and fell off ?
side note _ I was in Dragons Liar a few weeks ago and saw Milos training some old guy - I wanted to say something but I needed to take an uber to get herb and it was Friday afternoon
What happened to that Chinese pro that milos was pushing, he was like 6’2, Lu??
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What happened to that Chinese pro that milos was pushing, he was like 6’2, Lu??
Maybe he caught the Wuhan flu.
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I just wanna know who wins in fight, milos or dorian, I wanna see them fight
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I just wanna know who wins in fight, milos or dorian, I wanna see them fight
Dorian would kill him.
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Dorian would kill him.
I doubt it, milos is probably stronger
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Milos ruined the 1999 BFTO VHS with his pathetic training and his long winded explanations.
“I contract the muscle. I squeeze the muscle. I have constant tension”
Blah Blah Blah
Nobody cares Milos, you trained like a bitch and you had fucking tiny arms... and you were going up against Coleman, Cormier ect...
And Randy Couture would have knocked out all of your teeth
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Shawn Ray incline pressing 145LB Dumbbells on 1999 BFTO
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Shawn Ray incline pressing 145LB Dumbbells on 1999 BFTO
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Dumbbells at a 45 degree angle. Matt C approved
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Dumbbells at a 45 degree angle. Matt C approved
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Matt Canning. 24 years old. A former sheet metal worker. Mr. Thunder Bay and twice Mr. Canada.
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If Milos is such a better trainer than Dorian, why could he not implement his superior training principles to beat Dorian and win multiple Mr.Os?
Because we all know it has zero to do with how one actually trains. It all boils down to Genetics and response to drugs.
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If Milos is such a better trainer than Dorian, why could he not implement his superior training principles to beat Dorian and win multiple Mr.Os?
Because we all know it has zero to do with how one actually trains. It all boils down to Genetics and response to drugs.
That’s pretty all there is to it, yet we still have idiots believing there are specific angles, exercises, blah blah blah
Genetics and drug response
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If Milos is such a better trainer than Dorian, why could he not implement his superior training principles to beat Dorian and win multiple Mr.Os?
Because we all know it has zero to do with how one actually trains. It all boils down to Genetics and response to drugs.
Why hasn't Hadi Rambod won multiple sandows? Or George Farah? Or Chad Nicholls? ::)
Successful coaches have hardly ever been successful athletes and vice versa. Milos is basically the only one who was a Top level Olympian himself and is now one of the top-level coaches in the industry as well.
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That’s pretty all there is to it, yet we still have idiots believing there are specific angles, exercises, blah blah blah
Genetics and drug response
You can build an "upper" chest like Franco if you do incline presses at exactly 22.7545 degrees.
And flex at the top.
It's a shame nobody ever tried this.
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You can build an "upper" chest like Franco if you do incline presses at exactly 22.7545 degrees.
And flex at the top.
It's a shame nobody ever tried this.
Yes, and lots of heavy incline dumbbell fly’s
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That’s pretty all there is to it, yet we still have idiots believing there are specific angles, exercises, blah blah blah
Genetics and drug response
Gotta sell magazines, training programs and personal training services some way.
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Milos seems like an near ultimate con-man - drug peddler with lots of Hollywood reps.
A high volume training approach is fine but there are resistance thresholds one has to breach to grow.
Gymnasts are stacked, no matter what their genetic base, because they're doing high volume / high tension work for "hours on end" each training day. If one did the exact same movements with way less load hypertrophy would not be on the same level.
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Milos seems like an near ultimate con-man - drug peddler with lots of Hollywood reps.
A high volume training approach is fine but there are resistance thresholds one has to breach to grow.
Gymnasts are stacked, no matter what their genetic base, because they're doing high volume / high tension work for "hours on end" each training day. If one did the exact same movements with way less load hypertrophy would not be on the same level.
I'm surprised no former gymnast has become a successful competitive bodybuilder.
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I'm surprised no former gymnast has become a successful competitive bodybuilder.
Charles Glass...
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I'm surprised no former gymnast has become a successful competitive bodybuilder.
It'd be interesting to see a gymnast on bodybuilder dosages.
Their training seems to be the most optimal for muscle building, if you cut down the stuff that causes injuries.
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It'd be interesting to see a gymnast on bodybuilder dosages.
Their training seems to be the most optimal for muscle building, if you cut down the stuff that causes injuries.
Charles Glass...
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Why hasn't Hadi Rambod won multiple sandows? Or George Farah? Or Chad Nicholls? ::)
Successful coaches have hardly ever been successful athletes and vice versa. Milos is basically the only one who was a Top level Olympian himself and is now one of the top-level coaches in the industry as well.
You clearly missed the point of my post.
Go back and re-read it.
Other people understood what I meant.
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Charles Glass...
He doesn't workout like a gymnast
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It'd be interesting to see a gymnast on bodybuilder dosages.
Their training seems to be the most optimal for muscle building, if you cut down the stuff that causes injuries.
They are smart enough not to indulge in this cult of h0mos and schmoes
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It'd be interesting to see a gymnast on bodybuilder dosages.
Their training seems to be the most optimal for muscle building, if you cut down the stuff that causes injuries.
Do you Really Not Think Many of Them are Taking PED's ??
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Do you Really Not Think Many of Them are Taking PED's ??
Even if they are they aren’t taking nearly the dosages as a bber does, that’s a fact! Huge muscles is a no go for gymnasts, they have functional strength for their sport
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Even if they are they aren’t taking nearly the dosages as a bber does, that’s a fact! Huge muscles is a no go for gymnasts, they have functional strength for their sport
Hmmmm that isn't what you originally asked, is it.
How do you or I know what or how much they use.
A certain amount of muscle mass is useful to them & there sport, I'm sure if larger muscles were required
To aid their sport they'd do what was necessary.
Pretty much every sports participants at top level are now much bigger & Muscular than say 50/60/70 yes back.
& world records are streets ahead of what they were back then.
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I remember getting into an argument with Milos about why he couldn't get his arms bigger. He considered that he had tried all methods and in desperation chose to use oil as an enhancement. Looked ridiculous and he almost died when an artery was hit during an injection. Well, we never did have a full discussion about how he might have increased his arms more. At first he was dismissive and not at all pleased. We did get to sort things out but have never met in person. Then his ex stole his gym from him and he had to leave the USA. He finally returned after many years.
I don't subscribe to giant set training. Might be quite effective to many and perhaps for a short period. That kind of training isn't suitable in a commercial gym because you tie up several pieces of equipment.
I doubt Dorian used HIT methods to get bigger. He probably found it okay to retain size. Eventually high intensity training will result in injuries. So even if it is effective for short periods it can't be used long term because it is dangerous compared to volume training that almost all the pros use. Arnold, Sergio, Larry, Ronnie, enough said.
While it depends on what you mean by HIT, yes, Dorian did more than "maintain size" training on a variation of HIT; he gained muscle and improved by miles. The only caveat was he should've layed off the intensity in the last six to eight weeks of contest prep.
Talk about dangerous? Look at Ronnie now. And for every champ you might cite for "longevity via volume," discounting the deceased Scott, Oliva et al., Arnold, volume champ, ain't exactly without his own nagging injuries. Even your pal, Zane, is about as keen on muscles as Roseanne Barr. He'd rather do Yoga and play the kazoo.
There's nothing magical or intrinsically valuable about training volume in and of itself. HIT variants can work just fine for extended periods. Where most HIT purists fail is getting too fat and/or giving too much credence to an over-emphasis on a minimalist, compound only moves approach. That's stupid. Do your side laterals, face pulls, curls and pushdowns.
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While it depends on what you mean by HIT, yes, Dorian did more than "maintain size" training on a variation of HIT; he gained muscle and improved by miles. The only caveat was he should've layed off the intensity in the last six to eight weeks of contest prep.
Talk about dangerous? Look at Ronnie now. And for every champ you might cite for "longevity via volume," discounting the deceased Scott, Oliva et al., Arnold, volume champ, ain't exactly without his own nagging injuries. Even your pal, Zane, is about as keen on muscles as Roseanne Barr. He'd rather do Yoga and play the kazoo.
There's nothing magical or intrinsically valuable about training volume in and of itself. HIT variants can work just fine for extended periods. Where most HIT purists fail is getting too fat and/or giving too much credence to an over-emphasis on a minimalist, compound only moves approach. That's stupid. Do your side laterals, face pulls, curls and pushdowns.
how people think they can build muscle in a large calorific deficit and also train with that intensity with such low bodyfat levels and not come unstuck is beyond me.
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how people think they can build muscle in a large calorific deficit and also train with that intensity with such low bodyfat levels and not come unstuck is beyond me.
They are Mentzer fanboys.
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Do you Really Not Think Many of Them are Taking PED's ??
I doubt any serious athlete outside of 200+ lbs divisions would be taking over 500mg a week.
Pro gymnasts would be micro dosing, especially so those who have to deal with the Olympics level testing.
One of those jacked gymnasts taking dallas mccarver level dosages would be interesting.
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I doubt any serious athlete outside of 200+ lbs divisions would be taking over 500mg a week.
Pro gymnasts would be micro dosing, especially so those who have to deal with the Olympics level testing.
One of those jacked gymnasts taking dallas mccarver level dosages would be interesting.
Personally I think differently .
I was Supply some bits 25yrs ago to Olympic competing athletes , They all new
how to beat the tests back then. one a Very famous American Sprinter.
Let alone the amounts of PED's Grand Tour cyclists were taking Then.!!
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Personally I think differently .
I was Supply some bits 25yrs ago to Olympic competing athletes , They all new
how to beat the tests back then. one a Very famous American Sprinter.
Let alone the amounts of PED's Grand Tour cyclists were taking Then.!!
Doubt gymnasts are taking 3 plus grams of gear a wk, a long with insulin and gh, and who knows what else
Bbers always justify that other sports athletes take as much as bbers
The thing is you take away the drugs from a bber he’s nothing, you take away the drugs from a pro baseball player and he’s still an elite hitter or pitcher that’s better and gifted than 99 percent of the population
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Doubt gymnasts are taking 3 plus grams of gear a wk, a long with insulin and gh, and who knows what else
Bbers always justify that other sports athletes take as much as bbers
The thing is you take away the drugs from a bber he’s nothing, you take away the drugs from a pro baseball player and he’s still an elite hitter or pitcher that’s better and gifted than 99 percent of the population
That's your opinion
I've no idea what they are using or how much - Further more I don't care.
I'd Think you'd find the Genetic elite Body Builders would still develop outstanding physiques
Compared to Mr average - Clearly not to the extreme they are now with PED's .
Why are you on Getbig, If you so dislike Bodybuilders/ Bodybuilding/ PED usage
Why not post on a 'Naturals Body Building' Forum & Be happier & amongst like minded folk. ?
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That's your opinion
I've no idea what they are using or how much - Further more I don't care.
I'd Think you'd find the Genetic elite Body Builders would still develop outstanding physiques
Compared to Mr average - Clearly not to the extreme they are now with PED's .
Why are you on Getbig, If you so dislike Bodybuilders/ Bodybuilding/ PED usage
Why not post on a 'Naturals Body Building' Forum & Be happier & amongst like minded folk. ?
I come here for financial and relationship advices, we have very knowledgeable and successful getbiggers at that
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Personally I think differently .
I was Supply some bits 25yrs ago to Olympic competing athletes , They all new
how to beat the tests back then. one a Very famous American Sprinter.
Let alone the amounts of PED's Grand Tour cyclists were taking Then.!!
Can you expand a bit on what athletes are taking?
I knew soccer players took steroids to recover from the training faster. I would assume steroids give athletes of all sorts advantages.
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Can you expand a bit on what athletes are taking?
I knew soccer players took steroids to recover from the training faster. I would assume steroids give athletes of all sorts advantages.
In other news our own “Illuminati” was a drug dealer, no surprise there, gotta make a living instead of schmoeing ;D
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Can you expand a bit on what athletes are taking?
I knew soccer players took steroids to recover from the training faster. I would assume steroids give athletes of all sorts advantages.
Depends on the sport.
I know a lot of athletes who use/used Test/Deca.
Even knew a Tennis coach who played at a high level for years on a small dose of Test/Deca.
Recovery and strength are import for any physical sport.
A guy i used to powerlift with said he was taking a gram of Test a week while running track in college.
Knew a guy who was a black belt in BJJ who used gear for years. Big dude.
You never know what people are on.
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I come here for financial and relationship advices, we have very knowledgeable and successful getbiggers at that
Unlike yourself.
Whoopee doo I'm a Drug Dealer - And ??
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Unlike yourself.
Whoopee doo I'm a Drug Dealer - And ??
I am none of that, I can admit to that. Can you?
All I have is a nice decent sized cock, not much else to brag about
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Depends on the sport.
I know a lot of athletes who use/used Test/Deca.
Even knew a Tennis coach who played at a high level for years on a small dose of Test/Deca.
Recovery and strength are import for any physical sport.
A guy i used to powerlift with said he was taking a gram of Test a week while running track in college.
Knew a guy who was a black belt in BJJ who used gear for years. Big dude.
You never know what people are on.
But none are on Dallas mccarver, ramy, dick walker, dosages though
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Can you expand a bit on what athletes are taking?
I knew soccer players took steroids to recover from the training faster. I would assume steroids give athletes of all sorts advantages.
I'm not right up to date with what athletes are using.
For a good indication just check the WADA Banned / Testing list.
At a Guess , Many will be using Some form of Testosterone/ GH / Insulin / Peptides / Pain killers
Each individual sport will have its own specific needs as to what PEDs are used .
Top sprinters years ago used Winstrol injections quite a lot + Some Did Low dose GH
Grand Tour Cyclists - Have used all sorts - A lot of Blood packing/ Epo & much other stuff
I Know a world class heavy weight Boxer not too long ago caught taking Dianabol 🤦♂️ more fool him
Listening to his idiotic 'Trainers' They also caused him a lot of injuries by there ridiculous training methods.
A lot of info is out there, just have to search for it.
Maybe some of the younger lads on here who rub shoulders with other athletes may be better Informed
Than I am currently.
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I am none of that, I can admit to that. Can you?
All I have is a nice decent sized cock, not much else to brag about
Isn't that enough?
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Isn't that enough?
Vince is the blueprint of overall success and balance imo
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But none are on Dallas mccarver, ramy, dick walker, dosages though
Of course not.
Strongmen and powerlifters can rival BBer's no problem.
The amount of gear i heard people taking when i competed in PLing was insane.
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Of course not.
Strongmen and powerlifters can rival BBer's no problem.
The amount of gear i heard people taking when i competed in PLing was insane.
I agree with you there, just the point I was trying to make addressing “real” athletes vs a pageant thong show
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Chris is understandably a little slow.
He did pose with boxing gloves many times during his career!
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Vince is the blueprint of overall success and balance imo
Goodrum or Basile?