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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Coach is Back! on October 13, 2022, 02:20:28 PM
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This is a tough one. I just got a call from Joe Wheatley. No details yet. I’ve known Doug since I was 14 going back to our days at Bill Pearls and being judges at the Muscle Beach shows. RIP
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Wow.
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RIP he was 62 years old
Doug Brignole
[image] [image]
Height 5'10"
Weight 190
Born Dec 1959
[ website ]
1979
Mr California - AAU, Teen Tall, 1st
Natural Mr America - NBA, Teen, 1st
Teen Mr America - AAU, Medium, 3rd
1982
Mr California - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr California - AAU, MiddleWeight, 1st
1983
Mr America - AAU, Medium-Tall, 5th
1986
Mr America - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Universe - AAU, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
1991
Mr America - AAU, Medium-Tall, 5th
Mr Universe - NABBA, Medium-Tall, Did not place
2000
Los Angeles Championships - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
2010
West Coast Classic - NPC, Masters 50+, 2nd
2011
Masters Nationals - NPC, Masters 50+ Light-HeavyWeight, 9th
West Coast Classic - NPC, Masters 50+, 2nd
2012
World Championships - NABBA, Masters 50+, 7th
Magazines
1982 August Vol 6, Num 7 Muscle Digest
1982 November Vol 42, Num 1 IronMan
© MuscleMemory
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NO WAY,rip,dude was in great shape .damn...
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Posing exhibition October 22 in Vegas.
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P.I.P
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Holy shit....this is a shock !!
I met Doug competing at the Masters Nationals.....really nice guy.....this sucks.
RIP
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Dave Palumbo talked about Doug today.
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This is a shock.
RIP.
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RIP.
But you have to ask, does gear take years off your life?
I’m completely off for the first time since ‘96 and I do feel better. Am dropping weight and breathing much better. And that’s with only being on true TRT for at least a year.
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RIP, looked to be in incredible shape and not one to take risks or go to the extremes.
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:'(
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Doug was very knowledgeable about exercise and bodybuilding. I suppose he could claim he was an authority on bodybuilding, exercise selection and hypertrophy. He formulated a method of training based on his research into exercise physiology and his long experience training in the gym. He made his living from being an expert in training and had a blog where he posted his thoughts and criticisms of exercise technology. He wrote articles and even a book about his passion. Since he was a professional in the industry it helped that he demonstrated his principles through photos and videos as well as posts on the internet and elsewhere. Long after most guys hang up their posing trunks Doug battled on and kept entering contests and giving posing exhibitions. Well, times have changed and a physique like Bill Pearl's wouldn't win today. Instead, conditioning is the most important factor and a very unhealthy low bodyfat state helps place higher in contests. Doug had won some important natural contests and really had nothing more to prove. Not Doug. He had to show everyone his methods worked and that he was still active and not just an armchair observer. He stated on his Facebook page that he was entering the 2023 natural Mr Universe contest. He was dieting and training hard for a posing exhibition in Las Vegas in a week on the 22nd.
I heard Doug being interviewed by Ric Drasin and thought, yep, this guy knows what he is talking about. A couple weeks ago I saw that he challenged the findings in a study done re triceps exercise. I didn't agree with his critique on his blog so posted my idea about what an effective triceps exercise was. I included photos as well. Doug criticized my contribution and posted that there are 16 biomechanical factors in exercises. He didn't tolerate anyone posting ideas different to what he believed. I ended up deleting my posts on his thread.
His passing will be a shock to his followers because he insisted he was training in a manner that was best for longevity. We await more information about what caused his demise. This could be the last lesson he has left for those who subscribed to his ideas and theories.
https://dougbrignole.com/overhead-triceps-extensions-are-not-better-than-neutral-arms-triceps-extensions/?fbclid=IwAR2ZC9vV_bDDblycbsOBYD9cDwsOqKDWxFLatCHAaKVrbncVi-vY5H-Wg1U
https://dougbrignole.com/16-biomechanical-factors/?fbclid=IwAR0ZX223HX9gVplLG6PGsvf6T7YIwtfDo68fRvQmkYE1S_RVkbvQdXdRLzE
Search YouTube for "Doug Brignole and Ric Drasin". There are quite a few interviews where Doug is Ric's guest.
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staying lean and what's required can sometimes have you running low HDL for long periods of time, which can accelerate the hardening of the arteries that happens as we all age. Not saying that happened here. But sad to see a fit, in shape guy die so young. RIP.
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RIP Doug - condolences to the family and friends.
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Doug was very knowledgeable about exercise and bodybuilding. I suppose he could claim he was an authority on bodybuilding, exercise selection and hypertrophy. He formulated a method of training based on his research into exercise physiology and his long experience training in the gym. He made his living from being an expert in training and had a blog where he posted his thoughts and criticisms of exercise technology. He wrote articles and even a book about his passion. Since he was a professional in the industry it helped that he demonstrated his principles through photos and videos as well as posts on the internet and elsewhere. Long after most guys hang up their posing trunks Doug battled on and kept entering contests and giving posing exhibitions. Well, times have changed and a physique like Bill Pearl's wouldn't win today. Instead, conditioning is the most important factor and a very unhealthy low bodyfat state helps place higher in contests. Doug had won some important natural contests and really had nothing more to prove. Not Doug. He had to show everyone his methods worked and that he was still active and not just an armchair observer. He stated on his Facebook page that he was entering the 2023 natural Mr Universe contest. He was dieting and training hard for a posing exhibition in Las Vegas in a week on the 22nd.
I heard Doug being interviewed by Ric Drasin and thought, yep, this guy knows what he is talking about. A couple weeks ago I saw that he challenged the findings in a study done re triceps exercise. I didn't agree with his critique on his blog so posted my idea about what an effective triceps exercise was. I included photos as well. Doug criticized my contribution and posted that there are 16 biomechanical factors in exercises. He didn't tolerate anyone posting ideas different to what he believed. I ended up deleting my posts on his thread.
His passing will be a shock to his followers because he insisted he was training in a manner that was best for longevity. We await more information about what caused his demise. This could be the last lesson he has left for those who subscribed to his ideas and theories.
https://dougbrignole.com/overhead-triceps-extensions-are-not-better-than-neutral-arms-triceps-extensions/?fbclid=IwAR2ZC9vV_bDDblycbsOBYD9cDwsOqKDWxFLatCHAaKVrbncVi-vY5H-Wg1U
https://dougbrignole.com/16-biomechanical-factors/?fbclid=IwAR0ZX223HX9gVplLG6PGsvf6T7YIwtfDo68fRvQmkYE1S_RVkbvQdXdRLzE
Search YouTube for "Doug Brignole and Ric Drasin". There are quite a few interviews where Doug is Ric's guest.
Vince are you criticizing Doug for not tolerating people who disagreed with his methods? Isn’t that what you do?
This isn’t an attack, btw I may have misunderstood what you meant.
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Vince are you criticizing Doug for not tolerating people who disagreed with his methods? Isn’t that what you do?
This isn’t an attack, btw I may have misunderstood what you meant.
Perhaps we all do what Doug did? I didn't say I disagreed with his methods. I disagreed with his critique of an exercise science study on training the triceps. His method, on the other hand, is quite long and based in physiology. However, in science we have to welcome criticism but defend our hypotheses as rigorously as possible. Eventually all theories are either dismissed or modified because of what others have either experimented with or studied. Doug is a smart guy....no doubt about that. So is Zane and Arnold. They have strong views as well. Nothing wrong with having strong views. I will abandon my ideas if they are falsified. I doubt that Zane would or Brignole would have abandoned his. Ditto for Mike Mentzer.
By the way, in an interview with Ric Drasin Doug claims he doesn't have the genetics for large size. How did he know what his genetics were? He knew only that he couldn't get huge no matter what he tried. I looked at Zane, Doug and Ric and wondered why they didn't have bigger arms. Go figure.
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:'(
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Damn! Great physique. RIP
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I found his "theories" about exercise to be bullsh*t.
However, the guy had to make a living.
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Doug and Ric talk about getting older and not training too hard or too heavy. They agreed there is no need to prove anything when you are over 60. They both had heart issues in 2017. Ric more than Doug. Doug also said that social media on the internet puts pressure on others to do things they might otherwise not attempt. I guess Doug felt he needed to show people his training methods work by getting in contest shape again. Also he wanted to win another natural big show next year.
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Doug criticized my contribution and posted that there are 16 biomechanical factors in exercises. He didn't tolerate anyone posting ideas different to what he believed. I ended up deleting my posts on his thread.
man Vince ...just STFU ::)
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R.I.P Doug :'(
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Doug criticized my contribution and posted that there are 16 biomechanical factors in exercises. He didn't tolerate anyone posting ideas different to what he believed. I ended up deleting my posts on his thread.
man Vince ...just STFU ::)
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Looks like Lonnie Teper if he actually lifted and wasn't afraid to peeled
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I heard Doug being interviewed by Ric Drasin and thought, yep, this guy knows what he is talking about. A couple weeks ago I saw that he challenged the findings in a study done re triceps exercise. I didn't agree with his critique on his blog so posted my idea about what an effective triceps exercise was. I included photos as well. Doug criticized my contribution and posted that there are 16 biomechanical factors in exercises. He didn't tolerate anyone posting ideas different to what he believed. I ended up deleting my posts on his thread.
If he didnt tolerate anyone posting alternative ideas why didnt he delete them instead of you?
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Terrible news to hear. Met and conversed with him many times over many years. I never had any negative encounters with him. Knowledgeable man....phenomenal physique at every point of his competition years. RIP
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PIP. I have to say when I first read this thread title I read it as Doug Brolus.
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Was he life time natty? Looks pretty good for a natty. Seems like a great ambassador for the sport , R.I.P..!!
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R.I.P.
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Was he life time natty? Looks pretty good for a natty. Seems like a great ambassador for the sport , R.I.P..!!
Yes, a lifetime natty for two weeks before every natty contest.
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Was he life time natty? Looks pretty good for a natty. Seems like a great ambassador for the sport , R.I.P..!!
This is why I was shocked as Doug Brolus was defintely lifetime natty
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I'm gonna leave this here....Game, set, match Mr. Wiggs.
Ron, lock the thread.
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I'm gonna leave this here....Game, set, match Mr. Wiggs.
Ron, lock the thread.
Ha, admittedly well played ;D
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Ha, admittedly well played ;D
X 2..... My man Wiggs with the money shot.....fuck that poisonous ineffective vaccine.
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I'm gonna leave this here....Game, set, match Mr. Wiggs.
Ron, lock the thread.
Thank you for your sacrifice, Doug.
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I'm gonna leave this here....Game, set, match Mr. Wiggs.
Ron, lock the thread.
This just about sums it up.
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This just about sums it up.
I'm very anti-forced vaxx, especially now, but is dropping dead 18 months later really a very good test? If Bhanks drops dead in 18 months it could be from anything, literally anything, peach cobbler, sting rays, crushed by pool table, rooster attack ...
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I'm very anti-forced vaxx, especially now, but is dropping dead 18 months later really a very good test? If Bhanks drops dead in 18 months it could be from anything, literally anything, peach cobbler, sting rays, crushed by pool table, rooster attack , picking on the wrong woman...
fixed
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This is why I was shocked as Doug Brolus was defintely lifetime natty
Bullshit and I have seen his videos before he comes across as a know it all who does attack others who disagree and some of the shit he said was pure nonsense but RIP
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I'm very anti-forced vaxx, especially now, but is dropping dead 18 months later really a very good test? If Bhanks drops dead in 18 months it could be from anything, literally anything, peach cobbler, sting rays, crushed by pool table, rooster attack ...
The effects from the jab can be immediate, or long term. Thus the term sudden adult death syndrome. More seemingly healthy adults will continue dying without explanation from the mainstream media. It's the jab.
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I'm gonna leave this here....Game, set, match Mr. Wiggs.
Ron, lock the thread.
Hate to say it but this might (until we know for sure) sum things up.
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Bullshit and I have seen his videos before he comes across as a know it all who does attack others who disagree and some of the shit he said was pure nonsense but RIP
are you seriously disputing that Doug Brolus was a lifetime natty?
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are you seriously disputing that Doug Brolus was a lifetime natty?
The abs don't lie, 3 grams at least ;) ;D.
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I have zero sympathy for vaxtards. I wouldn't go so far as to celebrate their deaths, but considering their compliance with this jewish campaign of evil and the torment they helped pile on the untainted, fuck them. I hope others learn from the errors of this boomer moron.
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The effects from the jab can be immediate, or long term. Thus the term sudden adult death syndrome. More seemingly healthy adults will continue dying without explanation from the mainstream media. It's the jab.
Oh I'm not disputing that it can and does happen, I'm just wondering how to tell it was that and not something else. Like I'd want to know what the listed cause of death was. It's like a death attributed to steroids. There's often a ton of other drugs involved that might be far more dangerous. In fact I'm of the personal opinion that those steroid attributed deaths are mostly other stuff (like Piana).
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I'm gonna leave this here....Game, set, match Mr. Wiggs.
Ron, lock the thread.
I was right!
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What more can you ask of a man but that he die for us?
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Bullshit and I have seen his videos before he comes across as a know it all who does attack others who disagree and some of the shit he said was pure nonsense but RIP
post a video of him attacking people and counter some of his "bullshit" please...
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Oh I'm not disputing that it can and does happen, I'm just wondering how to tell it was that and not something else. Like I'd want to know what the listed cause of death was. It's like a death attributed to steroids. There's often a ton of other drugs involved that might be far more dangerous. In fact I'm of the personal opinion that those steroid attributed deaths are mostly other stuff (like Piana).
If someone dies and they were vaccinated, it was the clot shot.
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post a video of him attacking people and counter some of his "bullshit" please...
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Doug was a great Guy
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If someone dies and they were vaccinated, it was the clot shot.
That’s how Covid deaths are counted. Positive test + Death = Covid Fatality.
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Vox Day weighs in on it.
https://voxday.net/2022/10/15/you-were-right/
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Doug was surprised to know he had plaque even though living and eating according to health advice. He posted that men over 50 shouldn’t stress their bodies by training for physique contests. Yet this is exactly what he did. He set a 40 day target and had regular updates re body weight and photos. Whether the jab contributed to his death is unknown at this time.
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That’s how Covid deaths are counted. Positive test + Death = Covid Fatality.
Fair Point
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Bullshit and I have seen his videos before he comes across as a know it all who does attack others who disagree and some of the shit he said was pure nonsense but RIP
Bhanks, as always, showing nothing but class in tge face of somber news.
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I'm very anti-forced vaxx, especially now, but is dropping dead 18 months later really a very good test? If Bhanks drops dead in 18 months it could be from anything, literally anything, peach cobbler, sting rays, crushed by pool table, rooster attack ...
Hahaha, had me laughing with peach cobbler and crushed by pool table.
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Is it too soon to ask if Brignole is still dead?
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dave bunghole was natty?
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Steve Kirsch weighs in as well:
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/doug-brignole-1960-2022-rip
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Full article on Doug in the Gateway Pundit
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/think-vaccine-kills-people-can-use-test-bodybuilding-icon-author-doug-brignole-passes-away-63/
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Full article on Doug in the Gateway Pundit
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/think-vaccine-kills-people-can-use-test-bodybuilding-icon-author-doug-brignole-passes-away-63/
He took the Moderna. From what I’ve seen, many more people have experienced side effects with that one than with Pfizer. Both are equally worthless.
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Brignole was 62, not 63 as is being reported.
Correct?
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Brignole was 62, not 63 as is being reported.
Correct?
Yes, he was about 2 months away from 63, birthday was in mid December.
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Yes, he was about 2 months away from 63, birthday was in mid December.
Hope you didnt waste any money getting him an early card.
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Hope you didnt waste any money getting him an early card.
The card isn't a big deal, but I'll never get back the time I put in on the birthday poem :( -
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Nice to see the
Vax didn't kill you.
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People seemed to like and respect him overall.
The hubris in him was at epic levels though to write that comment while taking, what was believed by some including myself, to be a poisonous scam.
How someone with intelligence could fall for such a telegraphed con is still somewhat surprising to me.
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Doug in good form.
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Recent photo of Doug.
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I tried to find out the education background of Doug but it appears he has no tertiary education. I searched Amazon for his book The Physics of Resistance Training and this is what they said about the Author.
Doug Brignole is a veteran of the fitness industry and a former Mr. California, Mr. America, and Mr. Universe winner. His competitive career began at 16 and continues today. Doug is also a lecturer, author, fitness TV show host, personal trainer and former gym owner. He has been certified by the American College of Sports Medicine and the American Council on Exercise.
The price on Amazon for that book is over $100 A. No way I am paying that much. So I looked on Library Genesis and there it was for free.
Two fitness certificates. Yet he was regarded as an expert in exercise science and fitness.
Vince, it’s irrelevant. Are you going to tell me that kid that graduated with a degree in the in almost any field related to ours (fitness, S&C, etc) is more knowledgeable than someone that’s literally lived it and studied it for almost 50 years isn’t qualified to be an expert in said field, then you have a problem. It’s absolutely irrelevant
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Vince, it’s irrelevant. Are you going to tell me that kid that graduated with a degree in the in almost any field related to ours (fitness, S&C, etc) is more knowledgeable than someone that’s literally lived it and studied it for almost 50 years isn’t qualified to be an expert in said field, then you have a problem. It’s absolutely irrelevant
I was interested whether you consider it relevant or not. Bodybuilding has more experts than most fields that I am associated with. Doug was a smart guy. I have already acknowledged that. He is considered an expert and so were Arthur Jones and Vince Gironda.
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Filmed him at Muscle Beach the last time he competed in 2014. This was before he became a regular judge at this event. Sad to hear whatever the cause was. 62 years old is too young to die for someone involved in bodybuilding and health. RIP
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Vince,
I looked on Library Genesis and I don't see his book available.
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Vince,
I looked on Library Genesis and I don't see his book available.
Should be there.
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Should be there.
Got it. Thanks.
It's under a different title than I was searching.
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The guy admitted years ago his calcium score was bad. ie. his arteries were becoming blocked.
His dad died young from heart disease. Couple that with using gear for 40 years and you are always gonna have an issue.
Prepping for a guest pose was a very dumb move and a big stressor also.
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The guy admitted years ago his calcium score was bad. ie. his arteries were becoming blocked.
His dad died young from heart disease. Couple that with using gear for 40 years and you are always gonna have an issue.
Prepping for a guest pose was a very dumb move and a big stressor also.
Dude…I’ve known the guy since I was 14 training at Pearls. I trained at his gym when he opened it and closed it in Pasadena. I’ve judged with him for the last 5 years in Venice Beach at the Muscle Beach contests. He was lean all year around, conscious about his health, regular blood work and check ups, he knew what he was doing when it came to testing. Unless his Docs missed some kind of underlying ailments the reasonable deduction is the fake vaccine….and that’s most everyone’s SPECULATION until an autopsy is performed, if they even have one. Don’t think for one second this is an isolated incident….this fake shit does nothing but harm and they damn well know it!
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Dude…I’ve known the guy since I was 14 training at Pearls. I trained at his gym when he opened it and closed it in Pasadena. I’ve judged with him for the last 5 years in Venice Beach at the Muscle Beach contests. He was lean all year around, conscious about his health, regular blood work and check ups, he knew what he was doing when it came to testing. Unless his Docs missed some kind of underlying ailments the reasonable deduction is the fake vaccine….and that’s most everyone’s SPECULATION until an autopsy is performed, if they even have one. Don’t think for one second this is an isolated incident….this fake shit does nothing but harm and they damn well know it!
The fact that some knew how to look after their health is no guarantee they will live a long time. Doug was surprised a few years ago to learn, after a test, that he had plaque in his arteries. He said he lived a healthy lifestyle and watched his diet so wondered how the plaque appeared? We never found out. Doug and Ric Drasin discussed training for guys older than 50. They both agreed that there was no point to try to duplicate the strength and size one had in the past. Doug even said that preparing for contests is very stressful for the body both through training and from losing fat. Yet there was Doug documenting his serious preparation for a physique display on October 22 this year. He said he was going to enter a natural Mr Universe contest in 2023. It appears Doug doesn't take his own advice. He admitted he was on Testosterone replacement therapy. Imagine the load he put on himself by announcing that he was going to pose at a natural Mr Universe contest. As a guest poser you have to produce the body fit for the occasion. Perhaps he saw that he wasn't able to duplicate what he looked like when he last competed? He made his living from what he looked like and what he knew about training. That also put more motivation on him to get into really impressive condition for this show and show everyone what he could do.
We don't know what his internal health was recently. We know he was vaccinated last year and I think he had a booster as well. Getbiggers, as a group, didn't volunteer to take the experimental jab and are now being proved right. When Doug first started training at Bill Pearl's Gym he didn't always follow what Bill told him to do. That tells us a lot about what Doug felt about his own beliefs and opinions. He claimed he did research the vaccine and was satisfied it was safe and effective. He boldly stated that if he dies then he was wrong about the vaccine being safe. Seems to me it would be very helpful if the cause of death could be determined.
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Dude…I’ve known the guy since I was 14 training at Pearls. I trained at his gym when he opened it and closed it in Pasadena. I’ve judged with him for the last 5 years in Venice Beach at the Muscle Beach contests. He was lean all year around, conscious about his health, regular blood work and check ups, he knew what he was doing when it came to testing. Unless his Docs missed some kind of underlying ailments the reasonable deduction is the fake vaccine….and that’s most everyone’s SPECULATION until an autopsy is performed, if they even have one. Don’t think for one second this is an isolated incident….this fake shit does nothing but harm and they damn well know it!
So glad I didn't take the clot shot.
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Brignole from his social media posts, indicated he had multiple vax boosters.
In for the penny, in for the pound.
He proved even being a lifetime natty is no protection from the vax,
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Dude…I’ve known the guy since I was 14 training at Pearls. I trained at his gym when he opened it and closed it in Pasadena. I’ve judged with him for the last 5 years in Venice Beach at the Muscle Beach contests. He was lean all year around, conscious about his health, regular blood work and check ups, he knew what he was doing when it came to testing. Unless his Docs missed some kind of underlying ailments the reasonable deduction is the fake vaccine….and that’s most everyone’s SPECULATION until an autopsy is performed, if they even have one. Don’t think for one second this is an isolated incident….this fake shit does nothing but harm and they damn well know it!
i watched an interview with him just yesterday where he talked about his surprisingly high calcium score from 5 years ago.
Have you had yours done yet btw?
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I have seen cases where people dieting really hard have had deaths caused by parts of their artery plaque breaking off and blocking other blood vessels.
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Brignole from his social media posts, indicated he had multiple vax boosters.
In for the penny, in for the pound.
He proved even being a lifetime natty is no protection from the vax,
Why did he take the shot? because he had to travel?
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Why did he take the shot? because he had to travel?
wanted to, no one has to travel....
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We can put him right under Mike Ohearn on the fake natty Mount Olympia if that makes everyone happy
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I have seen cases where people dieting really hard have had draths caused by parts of their artery plaque breaking off and blocking other blood vessels.
Not yet and I should. All my blood work has been good, all kidney numbers within range but yeah, you’re right. Need to get it done. With my kids, grandson and getting older I think about my mortality more
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Why did he take the shot? because he had to travel?
Judged the odds and made a choice.
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Brignole's book "Million Dollar Muscle" (2012) gives an biography of his life up until age 50 or so.
Quite interesting. He had numerous personal and financial setbacks during his life.
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Not yet and I should. All my blood work has been good, all kidney numbers within range but yeah, you’re right. Need to get it done. With my kids, grandson and getting older I think about my mortality more
waist to height ratio and fasting triglycerides are two good basic markers for internal health.
I am 51 and am down to 172lbs with a 32 inch waist versus my old bulked 240lbs. Triglycerides down from over 100 to 60…. Ultrasound now shows no signs of a fatty liver, and fasting blood glucose and glucose response to meals shows very little insulin resistance.
One guy to watch on YouTube is Ted Naiman. He preaches an easy diet to follow.
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Brignole's book "Million Dollar Muscle" (2012) gives an biography of his life up until age 50 or so.
Quite interesting. He had numerous personal and financial setbacks during his life.
I read about his biography. No mention of any relationship, marriage or children. He was interested in biomechanics so studied the physics involved and applied what he learned to exercise. When he gave seminars and wrote articles and books he became an expert. Guy lost his gym got depressed then recovered then went to Central America as a partner in a mahogany import business. He was fluent in Spanish so was offered the opportunity. Lasted two years but he ended up in California broke again as the business failed. Somehow he recovered again and each time he got into bodybuilding and entered contests. I guess he had something to prove. Also it was good for his business. Quite the survivor through his life.
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Anyone in their 40s or 50s using or has used gear need to get their CT ( calcium score ) scan done, unfortunately for many who have taken cholesterol or lipid altering drugs in their lives its the equaliser, its better to know and manage than not. But getting in shape, and everything that goes with it hardens your arteries as well your overall look unfortunately.
Use amounts so low that your bloodwork is neutral to natural state , this can be achieved on TRT, above that most people bloodwork changes and with that comes long term progression of inherited disease, not short term, basically you can accelerate towards a future event, train eat and cardio for life, leave the stage for the young guys they have youth on their side and time to recover.
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Anyone in their 40s or 50s using or has used gear need to get their CT ( calcium score ) scan done, unfortunately for many who have taken cholesterol or lipid altering drugs in their lives its the equaliser, its better to know and manage than not. But getting in shape, and everything that goes with it hardens your arteries as well your overall look unfortunately.
Use amounts so low that your bloodwork is neutral to natural state , this can be achieved on TRT, above that most people bloodwork changes and with that comes long term progression of inherited disease, not short term, basically you can accelerate towards a future event, train eat and cardio for life, leave the stage for the young guys they have youth on their side and time to recover.
Is Bhanky on the right path taking 500mg/week + Anadrol + growth hormone + peach cobbler...all bio-identical?
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Is Bhanky on the right path taking 500mg/week + Anadrol + growth hormone + peach cobbler...all bio-identical?
Its a solid protocol. You never have to worry about PCT if your cycle never ends. If you time your nutritional cocoon just right then I don't see any problem here. Plus he can control his physiology so he's got that going for him too. All in all Id say Bhank is playing it pretty smart.
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I am 62 fat and look like I've never touched a weight but been at it for 40 years. But I have one of these:
(oops but I did get jabbed :(
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I am 62 fat and look like I've never touched a weight but been at it for 40 years. But I have one of these:
(oops but I did get jabbed :(
What is your fasting triglycerides?
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What is your fasting triglycerides?
guy admits hes fat.. probably never fasted... ;D
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guy admits hes fat.. probably never fasted... ;D
lol... "I just can't do it!"
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lol... "I just can't do it!"
You can be a little chubby and have no heart disease if your genes are in your favor.
It requires a high personal fat threshold which is god given. Asians and East Indians have very low personal fat thresholds, that is why they can get type two diabetes after gaining only a very small amount of body fat.
Type two diabetes equals heart disease long term in pretty much everyone who gets it and doesn’t change their diet and get leaner asap.
Working out with weights consistently also helps greatly with insulin sensitivity (something you want). Many fat nfl players have pretty good insulin sensitivity at high body weights, but it disappears real quick after they retire and stop training so hard.
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You can be a little chubby and have no heart disease if your genes are in your favor.
It requires a high personal fat threshold which is god given. Asians and East Indians have very low personal fat thresholds, that is why they can get type two diabetes after gaining only a very small amount of body fat.
Type two diabetes equals heart disease long term in pretty much everyone who gets it and doesn’t change their diet and get leaner asap.
Working out with weights consistently also helps greatly with insulin sensitivity (something you want). Many fat nfl players have pretty good insulin sensitivity at high body weights, but it disappears real quick after they retire and stop training so hard.
Are you chubby?
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There are very lean people with bad heart disease and clogged arteries.
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There are very lean people with bad heart disease and clogged arteries.
It´s genetic too..dealt a bad card.. deal with it baby
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It´s genetic too..dealt a bad card.. deal with it baby
Just hope you never have to deal with me queerbait.
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There are very lean people with bad heart disease and clogged arteries.
Absolutely. I have always been 'lean'. My doctor prescribed statins since my late 30's due to elevated cholesterol. I also have congenital AFib. Fortunately, I am able to keep both conditions under control. It has been years since I had a AFib episode. With the help of statins my HDL is high, LDL, total cholesterol, and triglycerides are all within range.
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Absolutely. I have always been 'lean'. My doctor prescribed statins since my late 30's due to elevated cholesterol. I also have congenital AFib. Fortunately, I am able to keep both conditions under control. It has been years since I had a AFib episode. With the help of statins my HDL is high, LDL, total cholesterol, and triglycerides are all within range.
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Arnold has lowered his LDL a lot the past few years using them but he has aged terribly doing it.
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Almost all medications and supplements present the possibility of negative side effects. Statins are no different. Some commonly known sides are muscle pain, digestive problems, and liver damage.
Overall, negative side effects appear in about 5% of folks on statins. It is advised people experiencing any negative sides from statins report this to their doctors.
There are some people with certain health conditions, such as pre-diabetes and liver disease, who are more at risk of having negative side effects from statins. Some folks believe statins cause dementia, or cognitive dysfunction. Statins are a preventative of these conditions.
Taking supplements is not necessarily any safer than using medications. If fact, there are no provisions in the law for FDA to approve dietary supplements for safety before they reach the consumer.
I have been prescribed statins consistently for over 40 years. The only time I have muscle pain is when I over-work them. Never have I ever had a problem with digestion. As for liver, I took D-Bol more than a couple of times starting in my teens and I've poured a fair amount of alcohol into my system for many years. In my 50's I got HEP A and was sick for nearly a month.
Oddly enough, I have never had a blood test that indicated any permanent liver damage. As an example, this is what last year's blood work showed: Albumin - 3.9 g/dL, Globulin, Total - 2.5 g/dL, BILIRUBIN, TOTAL - 0.8 mg/dL, AST - 35 IU/L, ALT - 35 IU/L, ALK PHOS - 49 IU/L, (all are within normal range).
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Prime,
The problem I have with my primary care doctor's obsession with LDL is this…
The lowest my LDL has ever been is when I was eating terribly and drinking plenty of beer… I was also at my heaviest and fattest… meanwhile, my HDL was really low and my triglycerides was sky high… at this level of LDL my doctor was happy.
Fast forward a year to when I went on a whole food only, calorie controlled diet, quit drinking completely, dropped 70lbs and felt a million times better…. Well, my LDL actually went up a little bit and my doctor freaked out even though my HDL rose quite a bit and my triglycerides went down to 56 (both really good things supposedly).
I said to her how the hell do you think I am more unhealthy now than a year ago based on this one blood marker when everything else says otherwise?
Anyway, I got a calcium score and it was 1… which isn’t zero, but sure ain’t bad.
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If you search YouTube for "Doug Brignole" you will find several tributes. Ever since Doug started lifting weights he felt some of the recommended exercises didn't feel right. An example was upright rows supposedly for shoulders. He noticed the movement didn't work the shoulders much and also put the wrists in a bent position at the completion. So Doug was one of those guys who analyzed what he did and if exercises didn't feel right he looked for alternatives that did. Over decades he accumulated plenty of ideas and eventually wrote his treatise, The Physics of Resistance Training. We on Getbig didn't hear much about what he said about exercise and hypertrophy. I would have seen photos and stories about him in the various magazines and from 1971 to 2000 I bought just about every muscle magazine that was published. It wasn't until I heard him talking on Ric Drasin's Corner that I came to appreciate what he knew about bodybuilding training. He always had an opinion about the effectiveness of particular exercises and methods. In short, this guy was a genuine expert on the application of resistance training to bodybuilding.
The video below is from Mark Bell's Power Project. 3 guys talk about various aspects of fitness and training. They were impressed with Doug because of his wealth of considered thinking about exercises, especially those he felt might not be targeting what everyone thought they were targeting. Eg., he didn't recommend squats, bench presses, standing presses or deadlifts...plus plenty of other exercises such as upright rows. I came to similar conclusions as Doug did re upright rows and deadlifts. I kept squatting but never had big thighs even though I could do 10 deep reps with 400 pounds. I did a 410 strict bench but never developed my upper pecs. There were three men I met who knew plenty about exercise performance. Vince Gironda, Larry Scott and Ray Mentzer. Doug Brignole was also a true expert like those I mentioned.
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waist to height ratio and fasting triglycerides are two good basic markers for internal health.
I am 51 and am down to 172lbs with a 32 inch waist versus my old bulked 240lbs. Triglycerides down from over 100 to 60…. Ultrasound now shows no signs of a fatty liver, and fasting blood glucose and glucose response to meals shows very little insulin resistance.
One guy to watch on YouTube is Ted Naiman. He preaches an easy diet to follow.
Insulin resistance is the key. Bodybuilder Jack Lalanne was preaching the optimal diet in the 50s.
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Prime,
The problem I have with my primary care doctor's obsession with LDL is this…
The lowest my LDL has ever been is when I was eating terribly and drinking plenty of beer… I was also at my heaviest and fattest… meanwhile, my HDL was really low and my triglycerides was sky high… at this level of LDL my doctor was happy.
Fast forward a year to when I went on a whole food only, calorie controlled diet, quit drinking completely, dropped 70lbs and felt a million times better…. Well, my LDL actually went up a little bit and my doctor freaked out even though my HDL rose quite a bit and my triglycerides went down to 56 (both really good things supposedly).
I said to her how the hell do you think I am more unhealthy now than a year ago based on this one blood marker when everything else says otherwise?
Anyway, I got a calcium score and it was 1… which isn’t zero, but sure ain’t bad.
You know more than your doctor.
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There are very lean people with bad heart disease and clogged arteries.
Lean people can be very fat on the inside. Maxed out.
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Just hope you never have to deal with me queerbait.
:D attack me with your wine bottles
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Insulin resistance is the key. Bodybuilder Jack Lalanne was preaching the optimal diet in the 50s.
Dr Roy Taylor’s studies on diabetes and personal fat threshold are pretty interesting…
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Doug was on Ric's Corner talking with Ric Drasin about everything to do with bodybuilding. I now watch and listen to some of these videos to see what Doug has to say. This episode was from 2015.
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LA Coroner’s report on Doug’s death. Covid and heart disease, not the vaccine. Why get the jab if it doesn’t prevent infection?
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Almost all medications and supplements present the possibility of negative side effects. Statins are no different. Some commonly known sides are muscle pain, digestive problems, and liver damage.
Overall, negative side effects appear in about 5% of folks on statins. It is advised people experiencing any negative sides from statins report this to their doctors.
There are some people with certain health conditions, such as pre-diabetes and liver disease, who are more at risk of having negative side effects from statins. Some folks believe statins cause dementia, or cognitive dysfunction. Statins are a preventative of these conditions.
Taking supplements is not necessarily any safer than using medications. If fact, there are no provisions in the law for FDA to approve dietary supplements for safety before they reach the consumer.
I have been prescribed statins consistently for over 40 years. The only time I have muscle pain is when I over-work them. Never have I ever had a problem with digestion. As for liver, I took D-Bol more than a couple of times starting in my teens and I've poured a fair amount of alcohol into my system for many years. In my 50's I got HEP A and was sick for nearly a month.
Oddly enough, I have never had a blood test that indicated any permanent liver damage. As an example, this is what last year's blood work showed: Albumin - 3.9 g/dL, Globulin, Total - 2.5 g/dL, BILIRUBIN, TOTAL - 0.8 mg/dL, AST - 35 IU/L, ALT - 35 IU/L, ALK PHOS - 49 IU/L, (all are within normal range).
I take a statin called Rosuvastatin....I want to come off it actually.
I have also taken my fair share of orals over the years....nothing crazy though,and had Hep B in the 80`s and my liver enzymes were perfect and I had no scarring or lesions on my last ultrasound a few years ago.....I`m damn lucky because I also drank enough booze to float a fucking fleet of battleships !! :D
I do however have a small amount of calcification on the edge of one part of my liver but the doc said it poses no problems and is quite common as you get older.
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LA Coroner’s report on Doug’s death. Covid and heart disease, not the vaccine. Why get the jab if it doesn’t prevent infection?
“We’ve given up authority to central bodies of so-called experts, all of whom have agendas. The entire process is bought and paid for. If we don’t take back our authority as physicians, it’s all over,” says Dr. Richard Amerling, a nephrologist for over 30 years and a current board member and past president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.
“There’s massive over-prescribing,” Amerling says. “The model that we have adopted now is to not reverse the disease, but to rather treat those diseases with pharmaceutical products.”
Amerling volunteered at NYU/Bellevue during the first wave of the pandemic and is now a founding member and chief academic officer of The Wellness Company, which aims to correct what Amerling considers a failing medical system by focusing on natural approaches to cure illnesses instead of the “medical school paradigm,” which he says is intimately intertwined with big pharma’s profit-driven push for vaccines and over-prescribing medications.
“The current system is so corrupt … we have to start from scratch and build something alongside as an alternative,” says Amerling.
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LA Coroner’s report on Doug’s death. Covid and heart disease, not the vaccine. Why get the jab if it doesn’t prevent infection?
And the heart disease is NOT a listed cause, only Covid. Died natrually of Covid. LOL.
Juiced heavily for many years even into his 60s, why are we even still talking about this (except that he still looked better and younger than Hanky).
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I think we should wait to hear from Doug before we start speculating how he died
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LA Coroner’s report on Doug’s death. Covid and heart disease, not the vaccine. Why get the jab if it doesn’t prevent infection?
ask Oak
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And the heart disease is NOT a listed cause, only Covid. Died natrually of Covid. LOL.
Juiced heavily for many years even into his 60s, why are we even still talking about this (except that he still looked better and younger than Hanky).
He's lucky to have followed our resident moron/drug pusher's advice and get the clot shot. According to our drug pusher, Brignole was 200X less likely to get Covid from fellow vax addicts, much less die.
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And the heart disease is NOT a listed cause, only Covid. Died natrually of Covid. LOL.
Juiced heavily for many years even into his 60s, why are we even still talking about this (except that he still looked better and younger than Hanky).
Juiced heavily for many years, and possibly into his sixties. A physician might mention these underlying conditions contributing to Covid susceptibility:
Heart disease
Diabetes
Competitive bodybuilding
Respiratory disease
Etc.
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Juiced heavily for many years, and possibly into his sixties. A physician might mention these underlying conditions contributing to Covid susceptibility:
Heart disease
Diabetes
Competitive bodybuilding
Respiratory disease
Etc.
It contributes to coming up positive on the test and then you’re labeled a Covid case regardless of any other factor.
The scam is in the testing.
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I think we should wait to hear from Doug before we start speculating how he died
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Rambone, you are very clever.
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LA Coroner’s report on Doug’s death. Covid and heart disease, not the vaccine. Why get the jab if it doesn’t prevent infection?
Think how much worse it would've been had he not gotten the jab......
Wait .... no...
Eh.... he must've caught it from somebody who was unvaxxed! Thats it. Yeah. Some unvaxxed asshole keeps spreading it to all of tge vaxxed people....
Not only that but it stops hurricanes too!
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I'd hate to be Brignole and have to put up with all the snarky comments around the water cooler at work after this one.
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Now, now let's not get ahead of ourselves here, it could also be the climate change
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Wife is an MD…
She says for Covid to be A cause and heart disease to only be listed as a secondary condition there should be the following present to observe…
1. Pretty bad Covid pneumonia in the lungs. She is a Radiologist and has observed people more recently with pretty severe Covid pneumonia in their lungs scans, but not presenting with very bad coughing etc as there was in early 2020.
2. There shouldn’t have been any obvious signs of a MI (heart attack) as opposed to heart failure from the Covid symptoms.
Btw, she also said we can always call them up and ask about it…
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Now, now let's not get ahead of ourselves here, it could also be the climate change
Good point. Climate change is the cause of all our ills.
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I just spoke to Doug and he said that all of you losers are wrong and to mind your own business while he rests in peace
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I just spoke to Doug and he said that all of you losers are wrong and to mind your own business while he rests in peace
Oh...my...word.
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Oh...my...word.
Sorry. I’m sure Doug was a nice guy if I had known him. His vax hubris triggered me
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https://twitter.com/stkirsch/status/1655005881900359680?s=46&t=yxGBVkB2vBr9RyCGC4ni6g
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Doug was full of sh*t.
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Doug also had pretty well established high cholesterol and a very poor calcium heart score ie. he had heart disease…
he talked about it in interviews…
Whether Vax or covid or a combo, since he had a cardiac arrest, his heart issue probably played a big factor in it.