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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #100 on: October 20, 2022, 05:39:10 AM »
There are very lean people with bad heart disease and clogged arteries.


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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #101 on: October 20, 2022, 05:49:57 AM »
There are very lean people with bad heart disease and clogged arteries.
It´s genetic too..dealt a bad card.. deal with it baby

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #102 on: October 20, 2022, 10:06:21 AM »
It´s genetic too..dealt a bad card.. deal with it baby
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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #103 on: October 20, 2022, 12:44:38 PM »
There are very lean people with bad heart disease and clogged arteries.

Absolutely. I have always been 'lean'. My doctor prescribed statins since my late 30's due to elevated cholesterol. I also have congenital AFib.  Fortunately, I am able to keep both conditions under control. It has been years since I had a AFib episode. With the help of statins my HDL is high, LDL, total cholesterol, and triglycerides are all within range.   

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #104 on: October 20, 2022, 01:44:23 PM »
Absolutely. I have always been 'lean'. My doctor prescribed statins since my late 30's due to elevated cholesterol. I also have congenital AFib.  Fortunately, I am able to keep both conditions under control. It has been years since I had a AFib episode. With the help of statins my HDL is high, LDL, total cholesterol, and triglycerides are all within range.   



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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #105 on: October 20, 2022, 01:51:44 PM »
Arnold has lowered his LDL a lot the past few years using them but he has aged terribly doing it.

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #106 on: October 20, 2022, 03:41:59 PM »


Almost all medications and supplements present the possibility of negative side effects. Statins are no different. Some commonly known sides are muscle pain, digestive problems, and liver damage.

Overall, negative side effects appear in about 5% of folks on statins. It is advised people experiencing any negative sides from statins report this to their doctors.

There are some people with certain health conditions, such as pre-diabetes and liver disease, who are more at risk of having negative side effects from statins. Some folks believe statins cause dementia, or cognitive dysfunction. Statins are a preventative of these conditions.

Taking supplements is not necessarily any safer than using medications. If fact, there are no provisions in the law for FDA to approve dietary supplements for safety before they reach the consumer.   

I have been prescribed statins consistently for over 40 years. The only time I have muscle pain is when I over-work them. Never have I ever had a problem with digestion. As for liver, I took D-Bol more than a couple of times starting in my teens and I've poured a fair amount of alcohol into my system for many years. In my 50's I got HEP A and was sick for nearly a month.

Oddly enough, I have never had a blood test that indicated any permanent liver damage.  As an example, this is what last year's blood work showed: Albumin - 3.9 g/dL, Globulin, Total -   2.5 g/dL, BILIRUBIN, TOTAL - 0.8 mg/dL, AST - 35 IU/L, ALT - 35 IU/L, ALK PHOS - 49 IU/L, (all are within normal range).

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #107 on: October 20, 2022, 06:01:46 PM »
Prime,

The problem I have with my primary care doctor's obsession with LDL is this…

The lowest my LDL has ever been is when I was eating terribly and drinking plenty of beer… I was also at my heaviest  and fattest… meanwhile, my HDL was really low and my triglycerides was sky high… at this level of LDL my doctor was happy.

Fast forward a year to when I went on a whole food only, calorie controlled diet, quit drinking completely, dropped 70lbs and felt a million times better…. Well, my LDL actually went up a little bit and my doctor freaked out even though my HDL rose quite a bit and my triglycerides went down to 56 (both really good things supposedly).

I said to her how the hell do you think I am more unhealthy now than a year ago based on this one blood marker when everything else says otherwise?

Anyway, I got a calcium score and it was 1… which isn’t zero, but sure ain’t bad.


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« Reply #108 on: October 20, 2022, 09:03:48 PM »
If you search YouTube for "Doug Brignole" you will find several tributes. Ever since Doug started lifting weights he felt some of the recommended exercises didn't feel right. An example was upright rows supposedly for shoulders. He noticed the movement didn't work the shoulders much and also put the wrists in a bent position at the completion. So Doug was one of those guys who analyzed what he did and if exercises didn't feel right he looked for alternatives that did. Over decades he accumulated plenty of ideas and eventually wrote his treatise, The Physics of Resistance Training. We on Getbig didn't hear much about what he said about exercise and hypertrophy. I would have seen photos and stories about him in the various magazines and from 1971 to 2000 I bought just about every muscle magazine that was published. It wasn't until I heard him talking on Ric Drasin's Corner that I came to appreciate what he knew about bodybuilding training. He always had an opinion about the effectiveness of particular exercises and methods. In short, this guy was a genuine expert on the application of resistance training to bodybuilding.
The video below is from Mark Bell's Power Project. 3 guys talk about various aspects of fitness and training. They were impressed with Doug because of his wealth of considered thinking about exercises, especially those he felt might not be targeting what everyone thought they were targeting. Eg., he didn't recommend squats, bench presses, standing presses or deadlifts...plus plenty of other exercises such as upright rows. I came to similar conclusions as Doug did re upright rows and deadlifts. I kept squatting but never had big thighs even though I could do 10 deep reps with 400 pounds. I did a 410 strict bench but never developed my upper pecs. There were three men I met who knew plenty about exercise performance. Vince Gironda, Larry Scott and Ray Mentzer. Doug Brignole was also a true expert like those I mentioned.


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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #109 on: October 21, 2022, 01:00:43 AM »
waist to height ratio and fasting triglycerides are two good basic markers for internal health.

I am 51 and am down to 172lbs with a 32 inch waist versus my old bulked 240lbs. Triglycerides down from over 100 to 60…. Ultrasound now shows no signs of a fatty liver, and fasting blood glucose and glucose response to meals shows very little insulin resistance.

One guy to watch on YouTube is Ted Naiman. He preaches an easy diet to follow.

Insulin resistance is the key. Bodybuilder Jack Lalanne was preaching the optimal diet in the 50s.

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #110 on: October 21, 2022, 01:03:57 AM »
Prime,

The problem I have with my primary care doctor's obsession with LDL is this…

The lowest my LDL has ever been is when I was eating terribly and drinking plenty of beer… I was also at my heaviest  and fattest… meanwhile, my HDL was really low and my triglycerides was sky high… at this level of LDL my doctor was happy.

Fast forward a year to when I went on a whole food only, calorie controlled diet, quit drinking completely, dropped 70lbs and felt a million times better…. Well, my LDL actually went up a little bit and my doctor freaked out even though my HDL rose quite a bit and my triglycerides went down to 56 (both really good things supposedly).

I said to her how the hell do you think I am more unhealthy now than a year ago based on this one blood marker when everything else says otherwise?

Anyway, I got a calcium score and it was 1… which isn’t zero, but sure ain’t bad.
You know more than your doctor.

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #111 on: October 21, 2022, 01:30:04 AM »
There are very lean people with bad heart disease and clogged arteries.
Lean people can be very fat on the inside. Maxed out.

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #112 on: October 21, 2022, 03:52:40 AM »
Just hope you never have to deal with me queerbait.
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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #113 on: October 21, 2022, 04:56:13 AM »
Insulin resistance is the key. Bodybuilder Jack Lalanne was preaching the optimal diet in the 50s.
Dr Roy Taylor’s studies on diabetes and personal fat threshold are pretty interesting…

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #114 on: October 21, 2022, 11:22:10 PM »
Doug was on Ric's Corner talking with Ric Drasin about everything to do with bodybuilding. I now watch and listen to some of these videos to see what Doug has to say. This episode was from 2015.


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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #115 on: October 28, 2022, 04:44:30 AM »
LA Coroner’s report on Doug’s death. Covid and heart disease, not the vaccine. Why get the jab if it doesn’t prevent infection?

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #116 on: October 28, 2022, 05:39:07 AM »
Almost all medications and supplements present the possibility of negative side effects. Statins are no different. Some commonly known sides are muscle pain, digestive problems, and liver damage.

Overall, negative side effects appear in about 5% of folks on statins. It is advised people experiencing any negative sides from statins report this to their doctors.

There are some people with certain health conditions, such as pre-diabetes and liver disease, who are more at risk of having negative side effects from statins. Some folks believe statins cause dementia, or cognitive dysfunction. Statins are a preventative of these conditions.

Taking supplements is not necessarily any safer than using medications. If fact, there are no provisions in the law for FDA to approve dietary supplements for safety before they reach the consumer.   

I have been prescribed statins consistently for over 40 years. The only time I have muscle pain is when I over-work them. Never have I ever had a problem with digestion. As for liver, I took D-Bol more than a couple of times starting in my teens and I've poured a fair amount of alcohol into my system for many years. In my 50's I got HEP A and was sick for nearly a month.

Oddly enough, I have never had a blood test that indicated any permanent liver damage.  As an example, this is what last year's blood work showed: Albumin - 3.9 g/dL, Globulin, Total -   2.5 g/dL, BILIRUBIN, TOTAL - 0.8 mg/dL, AST - 35 IU/L, ALT - 35 IU/L, ALK PHOS - 49 IU/L, (all are within normal range).

I take a statin called Rosuvastatin....I want to come off it actually.

I have also taken my fair share of orals over the years....nothing crazy though,and had Hep B in the 80`s and my liver enzymes were perfect and I had no scarring or lesions on my last ultrasound a few years ago.....I`m damn lucky because I also drank enough booze to float a fucking fleet of battleships !!  :D

I do however have a small amount of calcification on the edge of one part of my liver but the doc said it  poses no problems and is quite common as you get older.

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #117 on: October 28, 2022, 06:24:15 AM »
LA Coroner’s report on Doug’s death. Covid and heart disease, not the vaccine. Why get the jab if it doesn’t prevent infection?


“We’ve given up authority to central bodies of so-called experts, all of whom have agendas. The entire process is bought and paid for. If we don’t take back our authority as physicians, it’s all over,” says Dr. Richard Amerling, a nephrologist for over 30 years and a current board member and past president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.

“There’s massive over-prescribing,” Amerling says. “The model that we have adopted now is to not reverse the disease, but to rather treat those diseases with pharmaceutical products.”

Amerling volunteered at NYU/Bellevue during the first wave of the pandemic and is now a founding member and chief academic officer of The Wellness Company, which aims to correct what Amerling considers a failing medical system by focusing on natural approaches to cure illnesses instead of the “medical school paradigm,” which he says is intimately intertwined with big pharma’s profit-driven push for vaccines and over-prescribing medications.

“The current system is so corrupt … we have to start from scratch and build something alongside as an alternative,” says Amerling.

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #118 on: October 28, 2022, 06:39:56 AM »
LA Coroner’s report on Doug’s death. Covid and heart disease, not the vaccine. Why get the jab if it doesn’t prevent infection?


And the heart disease is NOT a listed cause, only Covid.  Died natrually of Covid.  LOL.

Juiced heavily for many years even into his 60s, why are we even still talking about this (except that he still looked better and younger than Hanky).

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #119 on: October 28, 2022, 06:44:16 AM »
I think we should wait to hear from Doug before we start speculating how he died

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #120 on: October 28, 2022, 06:56:45 AM »
LA Coroner’s report on Doug’s death. Covid and heart disease, not the vaccine. Why get the jab if it doesn’t prevent infection?


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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #121 on: October 28, 2022, 07:09:18 AM »
And the heart disease is NOT a listed cause, only Covid.  Died natrually of Covid.  LOL.

Juiced heavily for many years even into his 60s, why are we even still talking about this (except that he still looked better and younger than Hanky).

He's lucky to have followed our resident moron/drug pusher's advice and get the clot shot. According to our drug pusher, Brignole was 200X less likely to get Covid from fellow vax addicts, much less die.

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #122 on: October 28, 2022, 07:46:46 AM »
And the heart disease is NOT a listed cause, only Covid.  Died natrually of Covid.  LOL.

Juiced heavily for many years even into his 60s, why are we even still talking about this (except that he still looked better and younger than Hanky).

Juiced heavily for many years, and possibly into his sixties. A physician might mention these underlying conditions contributing to Covid susceptibility:
Heart disease
Diabetes
Competitive bodybuilding
Respiratory disease
Etc.

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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #123 on: October 28, 2022, 08:02:16 AM »
Juiced heavily for many years, and possibly into his sixties. A physician might mention these underlying conditions contributing to Covid susceptibility:
Heart disease
Diabetes
Competitive bodybuilding
Respiratory disease
Etc.

It contributes to coming up positive on the test and then you’re labeled a Covid case regardless of any other factor.

The scam is in the testing.


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Re: RIP Doug Brignole
« Reply #124 on: October 28, 2022, 08:34:11 AM »
I think we should wait to hear from Doug before we start speculating how he died