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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: 2000 MAN on October 26, 2022, 03:00:42 PM
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Just massive here. Zane didn't beat him.
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WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME............. ..FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!!!111111
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The European ideal of size and strength.
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Arnold the Powerlifter.
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You know what? You're right, '2000 MAN'. He fucking should have! I'm still bloody outraged over this! Feels like only yesterday this travesty happened.
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He hadn't paid his dues, at that point.
Also: notice Arnold on his phone uploading shit on IG. Disrespectful Austrian.
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Zane was far more polished with superior leg development and posing.....Arnie was a mere neophyte at that stage of his competitive career.
Looks like 2000 MAN is another guy who knows jackshit about bodybuilding.
Wes has spoken,and so it is !
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I don’t want to know what it takes to get a name like “2000 men”. Definitely paid his dues. Much more than Arnold in ‘68.
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Zane was far more polished with superior leg development and posing.....Arnie was a mere neophyte at that stage of his competitive career.
Looks like 2000 MAN is another guy who knows jackshit about bodybuilding.
Wes has spoken,and so it is !
That's funny.
I AM Bodybuilding.
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Zane was far more polished with superior leg development and posing.....Arnie was a mere neophyte at that stage of his competitive career.
Looks like 2000 MAN is another guy who knows jackshit about bodybuilding.
Wes has spoken,and so it is !
Had Zane not kicked Schwarzenegger's butt at that show, the Arnold physique that we have come to know and revere would have never materialized.
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Had Zane not kicked Schwarzenegger's butt at that show, the Arnold physique that we have come to know and revere would have never materialized.
Joe Weider deliberately robbed Arnold of the Universe win so Arnold would lose his negotiating leverage. Arnold was in talks with Bob Hoffman as well as the Weiders. Joe knew that if he deprived Arnold of the title then his bargaining power would be greatly diminished. It worked: Joe Weider signed Arnold for dirt cheap. Arnold had recently beaten Dennis Tinerino, who was similarly built as Zane.
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Dennis Tinkering.....just goes to show for a fact that YOU ARE BODYBUILDING!! ;D
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Dennis Tinkering.....just goes to show for a fact that YOU ARE BODYBUILDING!! ;D
Damn auto-correct. Fixed it though. Thanks
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Joe Weider deliberately robbed Arnold of the Universe win so Arnold would lose his negotiating leverage. Arnold was in talks with Bob Hoffman as well as the Weiders. Joe knew that if he deprived Arnold of the title then his bargaining power would be greatly diminished. It worked: Joe Weider signed Arnold for dirt cheap. Arnold had recently beaten Dennis Tinerino, who was similarly built as Zane.
Arnold robbed himself by showing up as smooth as a baby's behind and unpolished. Again, had he not lost that contest, he wouldn't have made the improvements needed to create the physique that ultimately made him an icon.
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Here the bigger stronger man rightfully won.
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Definition has played too big a part in bb contests for decades now. I don't agree. Bodybuilding was and still is about getting muscles as big as possible. Contests are not necessary and introduce all manner of bullshit over the years. In 1992 Dillet was the best bodybuilder period. The contests then mean bugger all.
Zane got gifts in 77, 78 and 79. Now he is an old fart who looks like he never lifted a weight in his life.
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Definition has played too big a part in bb contests for decades now. I don't agree. Bodybuilding was and still is about getting muscles as big as possible. Contests are not necessary and introduce all manner of bullshit over the years. In 1992 Dillet was the best bodybuilder period. The contests then mean bugger all.
Zane got gifts in 77, 78 and 79. Now he is an old fart who looks like he never lifted a weight in his life.
Zane looks nothing of the sort. Yes, he's old. But, he's obviously been hitting the iron still.
Definition has been, in some cases, too big of a factor. But, you STILL have to show up cut. Arnold wasn't in shape and he got beat.
Dillet wasn't the best bodybuilder. As soon as he posed, he beat himself.
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Arnold robbed himself by showing up as smooth as a baby's behind and unpolished. Again, had he not lost that contest, he wouldn't have made the improvements needed to create the physique that ultimately made him an icon.
Exactly. If he had pulled a "Mentzer", quit competing and just whined about it ad nauseam then he would never have accomplish shit. But he also did this when he (rightfully) lost to Chet Yorton in his first NABBA Mr. Universe attempt. He went back into the gym like the madman he was and became better. And he continued to do this regardless of whether or not he lost or won. He never lost sight of what losing felt like.
He's the biggest mangina on the planet now but back then he was The Man.
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Zane looks nothing of the sort. Yes, he's old. But, he's obviously been hitting the iron still.
Definition has been, in some cases, too big of a factor. But, you STILL have to show up cut. Arnold wasn't in shape and he got beat.
Dillet wasn't the best bodybuilder. As soon as he posed, he beat himself.
Zane at 75 is a frail old man. Nothing less. He is 80 now so imagine what he looks like?
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Well,at 80 years of age we can`t be expecting him to be benching 405 for reps Vince !! LOL ;D
He has nothing to prove having won all the major titles he has taken over a period of decades .....he`s a living legend......don`t let your dislike for the man blind you of his rightful place in bodybuilding.
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I don’t want to know what it takes to get a name like “2000 men”. Definitely paid his dues. Much more than Arnold in ‘68.
Hope he washes his cheeks before polishing any more ani.
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If size alone won contests then Paul Anderson or Ivan Putski would be multiple Mr. Olympia winners.
Granted Zane wasn`t a huge man, but still had plenty of muscle on a small frame,great proportions,top notch symmetry,defined quads that most others in 1968 couldn`t come close to matching,a finished/polished look to his build and a very pleasing look as well (NO HOMO),plus he was a great poser who knew how to display his body to accentuate strong points and hide the weaker ones.
Sergio had insanely awesome genetics but got beaten mostly because he was never quite in top condition, except I feel he got robbed in `72,but if he had the cuts to go along with his great mass and God given genetic shape, not many could have touched him on stage.
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Arnold was way too smooth in that contest. It looks like he didn't even diet.
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Well,at 80 years of age we can`t be expecting him to be benching 405 for reps Vince !! LOL ;D
He has nothing to prove having won all the major titles he has taken over a period of decades .....he`s a living legend......don`t let your dislike for the man blind you of his rightful place in bodybuilding.
Zane has a home gym and supposedly uses it. How on earth can he lose everything he trained so hard to get? The guy has no shame or has severe problems that prevent him from training for some size. I am a believer in using hypertrophy training as a trigger for sustaining some size in old age. Works for me. Arms are around 18 and I am still strong. I train once a week.
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Zane has a home gym and supposedly uses it. How on earth can he lose everything he trained so hard to get? The guy has no shame or has severe problems that prevent him from training for some size. I am a believer in using hypertrophy training as a trigger for sustaining some size in old age. Works for me. Arms are around 18 and I am still strong. I train once a week.
It's called OLD AGE. The man is darn-near EIGHTY YEARS OLD!!
You expect him to look like a men's physique competitor? Good Grief.
He's got three Sandows and three Mr. Universe titles. I think he knows a thing or two about bodybuilding.
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It's called OLD AGE. The man is darn-near EIGHTY YEARS OLD!!
You expect him to look like a men's physique competitor? Good Grief.
He's got three Sandows and three Mr. Universe titles. I think he knows a thing or two about bodybuilding.
I totally agree....and he won the IFBB Mr. America title as well.
Testosterone levels steadily start to drop around the age of 25.....at 80 I doubt that it`s very easy to build a ton of muscle mass.
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It's called OLD AGE. The man is darn-near EIGHTY YEARS OLD!!
You expect him to look like a men's physique competitor? Good Grief.
He's got three Sandows and three Mr. Universe titles. I think he knows a thing or two about bodybuilding.
I am 80 as well. It is easy to keep arms big and strong at my age, and naturally as well. So I don’t understand how Frank has lost so much.
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Zane has a home gym and supposedly uses it. How on earth can he lose everything he trained so hard to get? The guy has no shame or has severe problems that prevent him from training for some size. I am a believer in using hypertrophy training as a trigger for sustaining some size in old age. Works for me. Arms are around 18 and I am still strong. I train once a week.
I have met Zane and he is a decent and polite gentleman. I found no deceit in his mannerisms. Perhaps he enjoys a different style and focus in his training than you? I recall an interview on TV where the host asked Frank why he didn't enter the "Masters Olympia". Zane replied (paraphrased) "Well, I've won three Olympias and I have a Master's Degree in Experimental Psychology" so why would I need to enter this competition?"
He did not come off as flippant at all. The man is without a doubt, the most intelligent and educated Mr. Olympia of all time. When my older brother was introduced to Zane by Leo Stern, he later told me his impressions of the man and they were pretty much the same. Polite, well mannered and possessing an air "quality" if you will, in all things. Not your typical moronic, manhoe bodybuilder such as been the current case for what seems like an eternity now. Everyone still wants to believe they're the next Schwarzenegger and so they try their bestest to be smarmy.
Given the pervs that control the asspuppet strings of today's "bodybuilding" it is doubtful we shall ever again see a Frank Zane.
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When Zane put on a medium t-shirt he disappeared. At any point in his career. Bodybuilding is about being bigger and stronger. Period.
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Definition has played too big a part in bb contests for decades now. I don't agree. Bodybuilding was and still is about getting muscles as big as possible. Contests are not necessary and introduce all manner of bullshit over the years. In 1992 Dillet was the best bodybuilder period. The contests then mean bugger all.
Zane got gifts in 77, 78 and 79. Now he is an old fart who looks like he never lifted a weight in his life.
Within 30 years the world will still praise him. Can we say the same about you?
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What can anyone say?
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Within 30 years the world will still praise him. Can we say the same about you?
I don't know about "the world". There's are many who don't recognize Zane's swimmer's build as a genuine bodybuilding
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Zane at 75 is a frail old man. Nothing less. He is 80 now so imagine what he looks like?
Do you think you could defeat zane in fight vince?
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Vince,not being a wiseass here,but do you train your entire body or just your arms?
For 80 Zane looks lean and pretty fit......why would anyone want to be huge at 80 anyway?
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What can anyone say?
well at least he isnt fat...
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I don't know about "the world". There's are many who don't recognize Zane's swimmer's build as a genuine bodybuilding
If you saw him in person on stage in his prime,trust me you would be impressed.
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Take a look at this tinytit swimmer warming up his respiratory system:
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^^^^Great shot brother!
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^^^^Great shot brother!
Damn straight, brother. Preach it! Zane is one of the all-time greats and one very intelligent man.
And that signature pose of his is beyond anything seen before or since Mr. Zane!
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Zane looks nothing of the sort. Yes, he's old. But, he's obviously been hitting the iron still.
Definition has been, in some cases, too big of a factor. But, you STILL have to show up cut. Arnold wasn't in shape and he got beat.
Dillet wasn't the best bodybuilder. As soon as he posed, he beat himself.
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If this isn't "in shape" then I don't ever want to be "in shape".
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Look at Franco just destroying Zane here. Never mind Arnold blowing away both Zane and Ferrigno. Zane looks out of place here.
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If this isn't "in shape" then I don't ever want to be "in shape".
I`m a huge Arnold fan but he`s softer than baby shit in this pic.
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I`m a huge Arnold fan but he`s softer than baby shit in this pic.
Bullshit. He looks great in that pic and he could out-squat, bench and deadlift dainty little Frank Zane.
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Bullshit. He looks great in that pic and he could out-squat, bench and deadlift dainty little Frank Zane.
you are aware the 1968 Universe was a bodybuilding contest and not a powerlift meet?
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you are aware the 1968 Universe was a bodybuilding contest and not a powerlift meet?
The bigger stronger man should have won.
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The bigger stronger man should have won.
and how would they have worked out who was stronger just by looking at them?
By your argument Paul Anderson could have won it at 350lb of blubber
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and how would they have worked out who was stronger just by looking at them?
By your argument Paul Anderson could have won it at 350lb of blubber
If you can't tell that Arnold was bigger and stronger than the insect Frank Zane just by looking then you are blind.
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If you can't tell that Arnold was bigger and stronger than the insect Frank Zane just by looking then you are blind.
no you cant, I look bigger and stronger than a lot of guys at our gym but most of them lift way more than I do.
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no you cant, I look bigger and stronger than a lot of guys at our gym but most of them lift way more than I do.
Of course you do. Just ask you. ::)
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Of course you do. Just ask you. ::)
Fucks sake you daft twat, cant you estimate your size against someone else?
There is a guy at our gym around 5'6 and can squat three plates a side , he weights around 175
Im am 5'10 and 205 at the moment in contest shape, hes much stronger than me but I dwarf him
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Fucks sake you daft twat, cant you estimate your size against someone else?
There is a guy at our gym around 5'6 and can squat three plates a side , he weights around 175
Im am 5'10 and 205 at the moment in contest shape, hes much stronger than me but I dwarf him
3 plates per side? That's strong to you? Sorry but you're assessment of the entire situation is suspect. Thank you though.
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If this isn't "in shape" then I don't ever want to be "in shape".
In the gym or regularly on the street, that's looks fine. This was a bodybuilding contest. He wasn't in shape for that contest and he LOST.
And for the nth time, that loss led Arnold to improve himself (both in size and condition) into the legendary figure that many have come to know and love.
We don't get Pumping Iron, or Conan or the Terminator, or any of the things that have made Schwarzenegger iconic, if he hadn't lost to Zane, got humiliated, and determined that Zane would never beat him again.
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3 plates per side? That's strong to you? Sorry but you're assessment of the entire situation is suspect. Thank you though.
Thats not the point you halfwit
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In the gym or regularly on the street, that's looks fine. This was a bodybuilding contest. He wasn't in shape for that contest and he LOST.
And for the nth time, that loss led Arnold to improve himself (both in size and condition) into the legendary figure that many have come to know and love.
We don't get Pumping Iron, or Conan or the Terminator, or any of the things that have made Schwarzenegger iconic, if he hadn't lost to Zane, got humiliated, and determined that Zane would never beat him again.
I disagree
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Thats not the point you halfwit
What exactly is your point? You can't squat 315? But you're a gigantic bodybuilder? Ok.
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In the gym or regularly on the street, that's looks fine. This was a bodybuilding contest. He wasn't in shape for that contest and he LOST.
And for the nth time, that loss led Arnold to improve himself (both in size and condition) into the legendary figure that many have come to know and love.
We don't get Pumping Iron, or Conan or the Terminator, or any of the things that have made Schwarzenegger iconic, if he hadn't lost to Zane, got humiliated, and determined that Zane would never beat him again.
That is bullshit. Anyone who knows Arnold realizes how motivated he was/is. He used what happened to him to motivate him even more. He would have achieved what he did had he not entered that contest in Miami. What made him change how he looked at contests was getting beaten by Sergio...not little Frank Zane. Arnold was smarter than we thought. The big oaf wasn't this dumb Austrian Oak! He was political when it suited him and somehow his main competition was eliminated from the Olympia and he had an easy time afterwards.
Zane's comment to Arnold after winning the Olympia for the third time in 79 motivated Arnold to teach Frank a lesson in 1980. Arnold interviewed Zane after his win and told Frank winning the Olympia for the third time must be his biggest thrill in bodybuilding. Frank told Arnold on TV that beating him in 1968 was his biggest victory!
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That is bullshit. Anyone who knows Arnold realizes how motivated he was/is. He used what happened to him to motivate him even more. He would have achieved what he did had he not entered that contest in Miami. What made him change how he looked at contests was getting beaten by Sergio...not little Frank Zane. Arnold was smarter than we thought. The big oaf wasn't this dumb Austrian Oak! He was political when it suited him and somehow his main competition was eliminated from the Olympia and he had an easy time afterwards.
Zane's comment to Arnold after winning the Olympia for the third time in 79 motivated Arnold to teach Frank a lesson in 1980. Arnold interviewed Zane after his win and told Frank winning the Olympia for the third time must be his biggest thrill in bodybuilding. Frank told Arnold on TV that beating him in 1968 was his biggest victory!
And let's don't forget the ONLY reason Little Frank Zane won his Olympias was because Franco broke his leg and couldn't compete. Had Franco not been injured, he would have beat Zane soundly in 77, 78 and 79.
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Bullshit. He looks great in that pic and he could out-squat, bench and deadlift dainty little Frank Zane.
It`s not powerlifting,it`s bodybuilding son.
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That is bullshit. Anyone who knows Arnold realizes how motivated he was/is. He used what happened to him to motivate him even more. He would have achieved what he did had he not entered that contest in Miami. What made him change how he looked at contests was getting beaten by Sergio...not little Frank Zane. Arnold was smarter than we thought. The big oaf wasn't this dumb Austrian Oak! He was political when it suited him and somehow his main competition was eliminated from the Olympia and he had an easy time afterwards.
Zane's comment to Arnold after winning the Olympia for the third time in 79 motivated Arnold to teach Frank a lesson in 1980. Arnold interviewed Zane after his win and told Frank winning the Olympia for the third time must be his biggest thrill in bodybuilding. Frank told Arnold on TV that beating him in 1968 was his biggest victory!
Vince do you train your entire body or just your arms?
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Look at Franco just destroying Zane here. Never mind Arnold blowing away both Zane and Ferrigno. Zane looks out of place here.
Pic is from 1974 not 1968 genius................gi mmicks gonna gimmick, and trolls gonna troll ! :D
Another numbnut to add to the "Ignore List" !
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It`s not powerlifting,it`s bodybuilding son.
Sorry but that doesn't cut it. Benching, squatting and deadlfting are the backbone of bodybuilding. Especially back in the day when PED's were at a minimum. Arnold built his foundation drug free. So didn't Franco. Bodybuilding foods and heavy power training.
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Pic is from 1974 not 1968 genius................gi mmicks gonna gimmick, and trolls gonna troll ! :D
Another numbnut to add to the "Ignore List" !
I never said it was from 68. What it shows is Little Frank Zane getting smashed by the big boys. Looks like a fish out of water up there. Zane looks like a sissy.
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Sorry but that doesn't cut it. Benching, squatting and deadlfting are the backbone of bodybuilding. Especially back in the day when PED's were at a minimum. Arnold built his foundation drug free. So didn't Franco. Bodybuilding foods and heavy power training.
You sir are a complete and total fucking idiot........post on Ricky Retardo ! :D
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People say how intelligent Frank is. I never saw much intelligence. His masters degree isn't in anything scientific. All that crap about meditation. What isn't disputable is Frank had an ego rivaling Arnold's and that isn't something to boast about. Did Frank invent any excellent equipment for bodybuilding? Did Arnold?
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Vince do you train your entire body or just your arms?
For the past decade mostly arms with some calf work and leg presses. 95% arms. I now have a pec deck set up so will use it frequently because I plan to compete in masters athletics. Throwing events like discus, javelin and shot put.
I never really enjoyed lifting weights. They were always a means to an end. Therefore I gravitated to efficient and effective exercises. When I stopped competing I no longer did whole body workouts. I could do arms and lat pulldowns and have my whole upper body improved. I superset two exercises for arms. These exercises would improve just about everyone who used them. I exclude those who lift but somehow never stress their target muscles. I have seen a few in my time.
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I never said it was from 68. What it shows is Little Frank Zane getting smashed by the big boys. Looks like a fish out of water up there. Zane looks like a sissy.
Read the thread title dickhead.....of course Arnold made huge improvements by 74 and nobody ever beat him again....NOBODY......... that`s why he has 7 Olympia wins dummy.
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For the past decade mostly arms with some calf work and leg presses. 95% arms. I now have a pec deck set up so will use it frequently because I plan to compete in masters athletics. Throwing events like discus, javelin and shot put.
I never really enjoyed lifting weights. They were always a means to an end. Therefore I gravitated to efficient and effective exercises. When I stopped competing I no longer did whole body workouts. I could do arms and lat pulldowns and have my whole upper body improved. I superset two exercises for arms. These exercises would improve just about everyone who used them. I exclude those who lift but somehow never stress their target muscles. I have seen a few in my time.
I only asked because you always speak of training arms and arm size.
It`s cool that you are still being competitive.....keep it going and kick some ass.
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People say how intelligent Frank is. I never saw much intelligence. His masters degree isn't in anything scientific. All that crap about meditation. What isn't disputable is Frank had an ego rivaling Arnold's and that isn't something to boast about. Did Frank invent any excellent equipment for bodybuilding? Did Arnold?
When reaching a certain age, it is far easier to rest on your laurels when they're not made of thorn bushes.
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Read the thread title dickhead.....of course Arnold made huge improvements by 74 and nobody ever beat him again....NOBODY......... that`s why he has 7 Olympia wins dummy.
7? Sounds like you're getting into the top end of you're counting ability. Take a rest pops.
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I only asked because you always speak of training arms and arm size.
It`s cool that you are still being competitive.....keep it going and kick some ass.
Competitive? Hardly. What older guys do is wait for the good guys to not be in the same class or have some injury! Over 80 competitors are very few so the chances improve. In reality competing doesn't mean much. Just some old farts doing things older men should refrain from doing. Bodybuilding is the best activity for older guys. You just don't train but have to stimulate hypertrophy is some muscles. Then the body adapts and voila some benefits. We are told we lose size and strength as we get older. Well, I discovered that didn't apply to me when I reached 70. I could still get my arms as big as when I competed almost 50 years ago. At 80 my triceps are bigger than they have ever been. Just one exercise once a week and there they are. No drugs at all. Vitamin D and Magnesium to avoid cramps. Nothing else. Don't need any hormone replacement therapy either.
The red on my neck and arm is from doing some welding.
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7? Sounds like you're getting into the top end of you're counting ability. Take a rest pops.
And you? You remind me of an orangutan trying to play the violin. In case you are wondering (and you are) it means you are annoying and smelly ape.
Somehow I fear I am insulting the orangutan.
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And you? You remind me of an orangutan trying to play the violin. In case you are wondering (and you are) it means you are annoying and smelly ape.
Somehow I fear I am insulting the orangutan.
You are overly enamored with your mediocre intellect.
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Read the thread title dickhead.....of course Arnold made huge improvements by 74 and nobody ever beat him again....NOBODY......... that`s why he has 7 Olympia wins dummy.
Arnold got lucky. Here is Sergio's photo on a background I shot at One Mile Beach at Forster, NSW.
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You are overly enamored with your mediocre intellect.
And you? You are a manlette, deserving of death by fauvid. FOAD you pusillanimous pile of peace. Now then, go fuck you dead granny, whole ass. The best part of life is you are mortal. Barrel boy has returned I see.
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And you? You are a manlette, deserving of death by fauvid. FOAD you pusillanimous pile of peace. Now then, go fuck you dead granny, whole ass. The best part of life is you are mortal. Barrel boy has returned I see.
If that's your best, your best won't do.
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People say how intelligent Frank is. I never saw much intelligence. His masters degree isn't in anything scientific. All that crap about meditation. What isn't disputable is Frank had an ego rivaling Arnold's and that isn't something to boast about. Did Frank invent any excellent equipment for bodybuilding? Did Arnold?
I have to agree based on the interviews I have listened to. He's a bore and while not dumb I've never heard him say anything really impressive either. Kind of pedantic and bland. All his new age bullshit was like he read Johnathan Livingston Seagull and had an epiphany.
Going into the 77 Olympia he'd repeat to himself that "he's gonna be Mr. OLYMPIA " he'd say this a thousand times a day. Thats a good summary of Frank. Boring and pretentious .
He sure as hell looked cool though.
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I have to agree based on the interviews I have listened to. He's a bore and while not dumb I've never heard him say anything really impressive either. Kind of pedantic and bland. All his new age bullshit was like he read Johnathan Livingston Seagull and had an epiphany.
Going into the 77 Olympia he'd repeat to himself that "he's gonna be Mr. OLYMPIA " he'd say this a thousand times a day. Thats a good summary of Frank. Boring and pretentious .
He sure as hell looked cool though.
Until he put on Medium T Shirt. Then he just disappeared.
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Imagine my surprise to see Frank Zane's biography. Why? Well, I put an enhanced photo of Frank on One Mile Beach at Forster and sent the original size to Frank. He sent the email back unopened because he said he doesn't accept email from someone he doesn't know! He was at my place in Manly in the late seventies with Robert Nailon. When I arrived they were in our lounge. Robert liked being there because we were on the 15th floor overlooking the beach. Arnold was there in 1974. First thing Frank said to me was, "You don't have to go to Disneyland!" I asked him why not? "Because you have been in Fantasyland all your life!" He and Robert both laughed out loud. I instantly disliked Frank at that moment. Frank was referring to a comment I made after winning Mr Canada in 1970 where I said my ambition was to beat Frank Zane. I knew he had a masters degree and I was working on mine at the time. However, I didn't detect any great intellect in Frank. In 1980 Nailon took Frank and Christine back to the Hilton Hotel in Sydney after Frank placed 3rd in the Olympia. Robert parked his car and raced back up to their room. As he was about to knock on the door he listened and could hear someone crying inside. When Christine opened the door she told Robert that Frank didn't want any company then. Robert raced back to the Opera House just as the boat with Arnold and everyone aboard had departed. Thanks, Frank. I guess Frank had read my remark and that is why he claimed he didn't open my email with the original photo inside. Well, lo and behold, he now uses part of the photo in his biography! Amazing backflip.
https://frankzane.com/biography/
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7? Sounds like you're getting into the top end of you're counting ability. Take a rest pops.
At least I know 68 from 74 chump!
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At least I know 68 from 74 chump!
Wes, I hope you realize that everyone is entitled to their opinion about who should have won whatever contest?
Who is to judge who's opinion is best? Can't be done on discussion forums.
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At least I know 68 from 74 chump!
You should. You've celebrated both of those birthdays.
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Competitive? Hardly. What older guys do is wait for the good guys to not be in the same class or have some injury! Over 80 competitors are very few so the chances improve. In reality competing doesn't mean much. Just some old farts doing things older men should refrain from doing. Bodybuilding is the best activity for older guys. You just don't train but have to stimulate hypertrophy is some muscles. Then the body adapts and voila some benefits. We are told we lose size and strength as we get older. Well, I discovered that didn't apply to me when I reached 70. I could still get my arms as big as when I competed almost 50 years ago. At 80 my triceps are bigger than they have ever been. Just one exercise once a week and there they are. No drugs at all. Vitamin D and Magnesium to avoid cramps. Nothing else. Don't need any hormone replacement therapy either.
The red on my neck and arm is from doing some welding.
I understand exactly what you mean about being less older guys around competing.......cuts the field considerably, but you`ll train harder and more consistantly if you have a goal in sight.....I know I always did.
Good luck ! :)
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You should. You've celebrated both of those birthdays.
Not yet gimmick....and no one stays young forever.....I feel like I`m 20 years old !
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Wes, I hope you realize that everyone is entitled to their opinion about who should have won whatever contest?
Who is to judge who's opinion is best? Can't be done on discussion forums.
For sure Vince....but my opinion is the only one that truly matters. LOL ;D
To each his own Vince.....you`re right....we like what we like, and most times nobody could sway a persons personal preferance or opinion.
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I did a side by side comparison with myself at my best vs Frank. Had I gone to LA instead of Australia in 1971 I would have been motivated to train hard and beat a guy like Zane. I never reached my potential because I didn't want to do the heavy anabolic stuff. 2 Dianabol a day for 50 days is what I took about 3 times in my career. 1970, 1975 and 1977. I stopped Dianabol when I tore my right biceps doing a stupid deadlift with 509 pounds. I did a standing press with 270 pounds at the time. With no training for the lift.
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Not yet gimmick....and no one stays young forever.....I feel like I`m 20 years old !
20 years old? I heard that's when you got your first blow job....
Did you swallow?
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What can anyone say?
ahhhhh…..3 time Mr Olympia ?
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20 years old? I heard that's when you got your first blow job....
Did you swallow?
How original of you!
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How original of you!
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Who is that gimmick with 29 posts?
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You actually look similarly structured there, same proprtions.
I did a side by side comparison with myself at my best vs Frank. Had I gone to LA instead of Australia in 1971 I would have been motivated to train hard and beat a guy like Zane. I never reached my potential because I didn't want to do the heavy anabolic stuff. 2 Dianabol a day for 50 days is what I took about 3 times in my career. 1970, 1975 and 1977. I stopped Dianabol when I tore my right biceps doing a stupid deadlift with 509 pounds. I did a standing press with 270 pounds at the time. With no training for the lift.
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Who is that gimmick with 29 posts?
I think it`s "Jack "The Cockrider" Ripper" !
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(https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-UC696_webarn_HV_20120809135527.jpg)
1966 Arnold looking massive. Just massive.
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And you? You remind me of an orangutan trying to play the violin. In case you are wondering (and you are) it means you are annoying and smelly ape.
Somehow I fear I am insulting the orangutan.
LMFAO!
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What exactly is your point? You can't squat 315? But you're a gigantic bodybuilder? Ok.
No, the point is he can but Im bigger than him...
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Lol, a fattie
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(https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-UC696_webarn_HV_20120809135527.jpg)
1966 Arnold looking massive. Just massive.
i am guessing this picture is from Venice beach? Arnold was 19 in 1966. He arrived in venice in 1969-ish
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i am guessing this picture is from Venice beach? Arnold was 19 in 1966. He arrived in venice in 1969-ish
Arnold arrived in LA first week of October 1968. I was there for the month as well and saw him at Golds, Venice.
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No, the point is he can but Im bigger than him...
You cannot squat 315 lbs??
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You cannot squat 315 lbs??
I never squat
I have two bulging discs in my low back
Lucky for me my muscles dont know if Im squatting or not.
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I never squat
I have two bulging discs in my low back
Lucky for me my muscles dont know if Im squatting or not.
You have perfected the art of "muscle confusion" ;D
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I never squat
I have two bulging discs in my low back
Lucky for me my muscles dont know if Im squatting or not.
No substitute for squats.
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No substitute for squats.
Sure there are.
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Arnold had no conditioning, so there was no way he could win.
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Sure there are.
Such as?
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No substitute for squats.
your legs dont know you are squatting, the muscles just respond to intensity.
Your legs are way stronger than your low back, to really push the quads and hams to failure you would blow out your low back squatting way before your legs failed.
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Excuses don't build muscle
correct, intense training does, regarless of the excercises you choose.
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correct, intense training does, regarless of the excercises you choose.
Not true
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your legs dont know you are squatting, the muscles just respond to intensity.
Your legs are way stronger than your low back, to really push the quads and hams to failure you would blow out your low back squatting way before your legs failed.
Same results can be achieved with leg press, probably even better for leg size.
But squats are far easier on my knees so I use them now instead.
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Tbh leg size comes from squats and deadlifts
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Tbh leg size comes from squats and deadlifts
This. Guys with sticks for legs are always saying otherwise.
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This must be the same time period when Vince Gironda called him a 'fat f*ck'.
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This must be the same time period when Vince Gironda called him a 'fat f*ck'.
Gironda was a small man. Jealousy is a bitch.
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Gironda was a small man. Jealousy is a bitch.
He was not, he was middle sized, he had one of the best waist to hips ratio in bodybuilding, his built was similiar to Frank Zane.
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He was not, he was middle sized, he had one of the best waist to hips ratio in bodybuilding, his built was similiar to Frank Zane.
Gironda disappeared in a Medium T Shirt. A small man. Also a delusional alcoholic.
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He was not, he was middle sized, he had one of the best waist to hips ratio in bodybuilding, his built was similiar to Frank Zane.
Great physique and he didn't do back squats or deadlifts.
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Great physique and he didn't do back squats or deadlifts.
X 2
The guy looked great,especaially for his era.
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Zane was overated his best shots were when he contorted his torso to hide the fact it didn't flow with his lower body
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No substitute for squats.
For bodybuilding there are absolutely and dare I say it even superior exercises - leg press and lunges deliver similar results with less risk
For perhaps performance training then I agree they are without equal
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For bodybuilding there are absolutely and dare I say it even superior exercises - leg press and lunges deliver similar results with less risk
For perhaps performance training then I agree they are without equal
You couldn't be more wrong. Do the research before posting.
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Zane was overated his best shots were when he contorted his torso to hide the fact it didn't flow with his lower body
Zane was a small stringy man with abs. Bodybuilding should be about size and strength. We've been on the right track with Big Ramy.
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Great physique and he didn't do back squats or deadlifts.
He would kick people out of the gym if they did back squats.
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You couldn't be more wrong. Do the research before posting.
I have already
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Jesus dude couldn't come up with a better gimmick than this? Edgy golden age bodybuilding fan? Fuck off
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I have already
Cite the studies you researched.
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Zane was a small stringy man with abs. Bodybuilding should be about size and strength. We've been on the right track with Big Ramy.
Is this a joke?