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besides me???? just got diagnosed this morning.... a1c was 6.7, glucose 160.... this is crazy to me...43yrs old, 5'6 218lbs 12-14%... i do have a family history tho... ive also used both gh and slin over the years.... been prescribed metformin 500mg 2x per day,,, and ozempic once a week... can anyone tell me what im in for when it comes to the bodybuild/fitness lifestyle....thanks fellas
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besides me???? just got diagnosed this morning.... a1c was 6.7, glucose 160.... this is crazy to me...43yrs old, 5'6 218lbs 12-14%... i do have a family history tho... ive also used both gh and slin over the years.... been prescribed metformin 500mg 2x per day,,, and ozempic once a week... can anyone tell me what im in for when it comes to the bodybuild/fitness lifestyle....thanks fellas
Don't panic.
You need to make changes in your diet.
12-14% bf at 5'6" and 218? You are kidding yourself unless you are slamming gear and cutting for a show.
218 is way too heavy for your height of 5'6".
What to do:
Drastically lower carb consumption. No processed foods, no grains, no flour, no sugar.
Go on a very low carb, moderate protein, high fat diet. No more than 50g carbs a day. Doing this will lean you up.
A keto or carnivore diet.
Waist size should be no more than 1/2 height. So check that out.
Your waist should be no more than 33". Measured at navel.
No need for all those drugs they prescribed you which will likely just mess you up more.
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Best foods to eat:
Meat, eggs, fish
Non-starch vegetables (green like broccoli)
Berries (but sparingly)
Cheese (not processed cheese), cream
Nuts, seeds
Butter, healthy oils (No canola, soybean, peanut, etc.) Use extra virgin olive oil.
Foods not to eat:
Juices
Fruit (not often)
Flour products
Grains (rice, wheat, cereals, etc.)
Sugars
Low fat foods
Trans fats (hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated foods)
Processed foods
7 foods not to eat - Dr. Ken Berry:
Pizza
Waffles, pancakes & syrup
Pasta
Hamburgers (buns and toppings are bad)
Hotdogs (buns and toppings are bad)
Angel food cake
Chicken nuggets
(Don't eat grains, sugars, vegetable oils)
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Don't panic.
Most likely you need to just make changes in your diet.
12-14% bf at 5'6" and 218? You are kidding yourself unless you are slamming gear and cutting for a show.
What to do:
Drastically lower carb consumption. No processed foods, no grains, no flour, no sugar.
Go on a very low carb, moderate protein, high fat diet. No more than 50g carbs a day. Doing this will lean you up.
A keto or carnivore diet.
218 is way too heavy for your height of 5'6".
Waist size should be no more than 1/2 height. So check that out.
Your waist should be no more than 33". Measured at navel.
No need for all those drugs they prescribed you which will likely just mess you up more.
IroNat ain't lying.
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IroNat ain't lying.
See edited post above. ;)
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o yeah, im running a cycle, have been...my waste is 37.25... i eat a ton of fruit too..i post in the "what did you eat today" thread... i eat alot of fruit too....i eat clean 75 percent of the year..obviously w the cheats of a normal life...i feel great honestly.. all blood other blood work was good, kidney liver cholesterol, all that shit...hematocrit was 55 tho but ive had that problem for ages... i have no "diabetic symptoms".. my vision has gone to shit in the past year tho...... all bloodwork was clean 2 years ago as well w no sugar problems... so this is some serious shit fellas?
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Type II diabetics CAN be controlled with proper diet.
Proper diet was outlined above by IroNat.
Ive known Type I diabetics and they can go from normal to delerious/belligerent, sweaty mess in minutes if their blood sugar gets too low. Always need insulin and/or source of sugar on hand or it could litteraly be the difference between life and death.
Pretty sure Type II can develop into type I if you don't adjust your diet. If you try to manage it with just insulin you will probably gradually develop type I. If do you manage it through diet you'll lead a normal and healthy life.
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o yeah, im running a cycle, have been...my waste is 37.25... i eat a ton of fruit too..i post in the "what did you eat today" thread... i eat alot of fruit too....i eat clean 75 percent of the year..obviously w the cheats of a normal life...i feel great honestly.. all blood other blood work was good, kidney liver cholesterol, all that shit...hematocrit was 55 tho but ive had that problem for ages... i have no "diabetic symptoms".. my vision has gone to shit in the past year tho...... all bloodwork was clean 2 years ago as well w no sugar problems... so this is some serious shit fellas?
Type 2 diabetes has no symptoms but indicates your pancreas is reaching the point of no return in its efforts to control your blood glucose level. The pancreas produces insulin.
Everything will appear normal until your pancreas shuts down like falling off a cliff or a bathtub slowly filling until it overflows.
Eating fruit is just like eating sugar unfortunately. You are also probably eating a high carb diet correct?
Keep doing what you are doing and you will really mess yourself up.
You have been given a warning and now have a choice at this time to go for health or continue on your present course and really f*ck yourself up for dem gainz.
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220 lbs @ 5'6". Rampant drug abuse. "Diabeetus out of literally nowhere!"
Are you named after Herve Villechaise from Fantasy Island?
Listen to your doctor and lose some goddamn weight or get your affairs in order. Your choice.
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besides me???? just got diagnosed this morning.... a1c was 6.7, glucose 160.... this is crazy to me...43yrs old, 5'6 218lbs 12-14%... i do have a family history tho... ive also used both gh and slin over the years.... been prescribed metformin 500mg 2x per day,,, and ozempic once a week... can anyone tell me what im in for when it comes to the bodybuild/fitness lifestyle....thanks fellas
Is that fasted blood glucose?
It sucks when you have to downsize due to shit like this. Diabetes runs in my family and killed my grandfather at 63 and my dad got it at 66. My fasted blood sugar last physical was 99 and one before was 89. So I’m prob right there with you and it sucks. I’m going full keto since Saturday. Already down 8 lbs so prob keep going to 230 or so.
Good luck bro. I am a big fruit eater also for all the benefits except it fucks sugar up. So no more for me I guess. Drop down to 200 and prob be much better.
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BOTH my parents died from diabetes related complications.
Asshole doctors told them to eat lots of whole grains, fruit juices and splenda/equal as those "don't contain sugar".... fuckfaces never read the back of the splenda/equal packets which says dextrose and/or maltodectrin.
Ultimately though
Easy fix..
If it tastes good .......... don't eat it
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besides me???? just got diagnosed this morning.... a1c was 6.7, glucose 160.... this is crazy to me...43yrs old, 5'6 218lbs 12-14%... i do have a family history tho... ive also used both gh and slin over the years.... been prescribed metformin 500mg 2x per day,,, and ozempic once a week... can anyone tell me what im in for when it comes to the bodybuild/fitness lifestyle....thanks fellas
Sorry to hear it brother,unfortunately I have no advice to offer.
All the best !!
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Tatoo,
Your pancreas has reached the point of no return as your blood glucose level is too high at 160.
Should be not higher than 100 or so.
Your pancreas is shutting down and can no longer control your blood glucose level.
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BOTH my parents died from diabetes related complications.
Asshole doctors told them to eat lots of whole grains, fruit juices and splenda/equal as those "don't contain sugar".... fuckfaces never read the back of the splenda/equal packets which says dextrose and/or maltodectrin.
Ultimately though
Easy fix..
If it tastes good .......... don't eat it
For an artificial sweetener, Stevia is one of the very few that does not trigger an insulin response.
Most of the others, even though have no calories, still trigger an insulin response.
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Is that fasted blood glucose?
It sucks when you have to downsize due to shit like this. Diabetes runs in my family and killed my grandfather at 63 and my dad got it at 66. My fasted blood sugar last physical was 99 and one before was 89. So I’m prob right there with you and it sucks. I’m going full keto since Saturday. Already down 8 lbs so prob keep going to 230 or so.
Good luck bro. I am a big fruit eater also for all the benefits except it fucks sugar up. So no more for me I guess. Drop down to 200 and prob be much better.
yes that was the fasted number of 160... and thanks for the luck bro!!!
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220 lbs @ 5'6". Rampant drug abuse. "Diabeetus out of literally nowhere!"
Are you named after Herve Villechaise from Fantasy Island?
Listen to your doctor and lose some goddamn weight or get your affairs in order. Your choice.
ive have cycled on and off for 20 plus years... so yes id say rampant drug abuse too!! but yes im going to listen to the doctor for sure..
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Tatoo,
Your pancreas has reached the point of no return as your blood glucose level is too high at 160.
Should be not higher than 100 or so.
Your pancreas is shutting down and can no longer control your blood glucose level.
many thanks brother!!! for the diet and the blunt explaination!!!!!
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Ozempic might make you lose lots of weight. Metformin might give you some GI upset. You could probably get your glucose down with diet changes like what has been listed above or weight loss.
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Ketogenic diet will cure you. In several studies it had substantial effects. In fact in one study just 6 days of keto increased insulin sensitivity by 50% and reduced NAFLD by 58%, which is what I find in patient tbh.
It works rapidly but by cure I mean treatment, you are remitted as long as you do it and if your carbs creep up and you no longer produce ketones your IS will start dropping.
De-stressing helps a lot. there are various other things you could do if you are interested. but Keto is the main stay as is cardio.
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Ketogenic diet will cure you. In several studies it had substantial effects. In fact in one study just 6 days of keto increased insulin sensitivity by 50% and reduced NAFLD by 58%, which is what I find in patient tbh.
It works rapidly but by cure I mean treatment, you are remitted as long as you do it and if your carbs creep up and you no longer produce ketones your IS will start dropping.
De-stressing helps a lot. there are various other things you could do if you are interested. but Keto is the main stay as is cardio.
im interested in anything that will help!!!!!! i know ZERO about diabetes... ive never had to learn i guess.. so how many carbs is no good for me? how many grams? im usually around 300 grams of carbs, unless on a cut.... then i cycle them.... is carb cycling a bad idea with type 2?
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im interested in anything that will help!!!!!! i know ZERO about diabetes... ive never had to learn i guess.. so how many carbs is no good for me? how many grams? im usually around 300 grams of carbs, unless on a cut.... then i cycle them.... is carb cycling a bad idea with type 2?
Under 20 I believe is true keto. It’s not that bad after a few days. I did it for almost a year. Then fucked up a few months then back on 6 months then off a few months now back on for 6 days and I feel great. I don’t get the low energy that most talk about.
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Under 20 I believe is true keto. It’s not that bad after a few days. I did it for almost a year. Then fucked up a few months then back on 6 months then off a few months now back on for 6 days and I feel great. I don’t get the low energy that most talk about.
ive done it before.... it works... i was just so flat and fuckin weak.. no pump, no veins..... lol is that what my life is about to turn into?..
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i also use 3-4 iu of pharm grade hgh per day.... i have for years.... is that out the window too????
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ive done it before.... it works... i was just so flat and fuckin weak.. no pump, no veins..... lol is that what my life is about to turn into?..
I would stay on the test and do keto. Prob drop down to 200 but 200 at 5’6 Lean is huge so you must be a monster right now. Not sure how GH and other roids affect diabetes but test is supposed to help with insulin sensitivity. Yeah you won’t be as big and pumped but you will be healthier and still huge. So be still big and healthier or huge and unhealthy.
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Don't panic.
You need to make changes in your diet.
12-14% bf at 5'6" and 218? You are kidding yourself unless you are slamming gear and cutting for a show.
218 is way too heavy for your height of 5'6".
What to do:
Drastically lower carb consumption. No processed foods, no grains, no flour, no sugar.
Go on a very low carb, moderate protein, high fat diet. No more than 50g carbs a day. Doing this will lean you up.
A keto or carnivore diet.
Waist size should be no more than 1/2 height. So check that out.
Your waist should be no more than 33". Measured at navel.
No need for all those drugs they prescribed you which will likely just mess you up more.
>
Best foods to eat:
Meat, eggs, fish
Non-starch vegetables (green like broccoli)
Berries (but sparingly)
Cheese (not processed cheese), cream
Nuts, seeds
Butter, healthy oils (No canola, soybean, peanut, etc.) Use extra virgin olive oil.
Foods not to eat:
Juices
Fruit (not often)
Flour products
Grains (rice, wheat, cereals, etc.)
Sugars
Low fat foods
Trans fats (hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated foods)
Processed foods
7 foods not to eat - Dr. Ken Berry:
Pizza
Waffles, pancakes & syrup
Pasta
Hamburgers (buns and toppings are bad)
Hotdogs (buns and toppings are bad)
Angel food cake
Chicken nuggets
(Don't eat grains, sugars, vegetable oils)
good advices.
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I would stay on the test and do keto. Prob drop down to 200 but 200 at 5’6 Lean is huge so you must be a monster right now. Not sure how GH and other roids affect diabetes but test is supposed to help with insulin sensitivity. Yeah you won’t be as big and pumped but you will be healthier and still huge. So be still big and healthier or huge and unhealthy.
fuck, im probably in my best winter shape in years but i have been pushing the envelope more alot more than normal... no reason besides i like to bodybuild... great workouts, happy w diet, gear, everything.... sucks because this is a hobby for me.. obviously, it has come w costs... but yeah ill still be just as happy at a lower weight.. never saw this day coming this soon lol...
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fuck, im probably in my best winter shape in years but i have been pushing the envelope more alot more than normal... no reason besides i like to bodybuild... great workouts, happy w diet, gear, everything.... sucks because this is a hobby for me.. obviously, it has come w costs... but yeah ill still be just as happy at a lower weight.. never saw this day coming this soon lol...
Eating very low carb is not bad when you get used to it. Took me about a month or two to really feel good with it.
You eat a lot of fat so you feel full.
Mainly I just eat meat, eggs, and cheese with a salad or green veggie a few times a week.
On the weekend I loosen up a little and have a bagel or two.
Also I have a few whiskies or vodkas during the week.
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besides me???? just got diagnosed this morning.... a1c was 6.7, glucose 160.... this is crazy to me...43yrs old, 5'6 218lbs 12-14%... i do have a family history tho... ive also used both gh and slin over the years.... been prescribed metformin 500mg 2x per day,,, and ozempic once a week... can anyone tell me what im in for when it comes to the bodybuild/fitness lifestyle....thanks fellas
Berberine works pretty much like Metaformin and is a natural product if the Metaformin disagrees with you, the doc wont tell you about it because its a herbal supplement
https://www.buzzrx.com/blog/metformin-vs-berberine-similarities-and-differences
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Berberine works pretty much like Metaformin and is a natural product if the Metaformin disagrees with you, the doc wont tell you about it because its a herbal supplement
https://www.buzzrx.com/blog/metformin-vs-berberine-similarities-and-differences
That’s interesting.
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Look on the bright side: you’re still healthier than bhanks.
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Look on the bright side: you’re still healthier than bhanks.
the thought honestly did cross my mind when i was typing for this thread!!! lmao haha...
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I had a conversation with a researcher who believes that even lots of weight, even muscular, can bring on Type 2...He contends that your body is capable of only keeping so much volume/mass of a human body healthy...so that if you are say 250lbs and hugely strong...your size still works against you.
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Eating very low carb is not bad when you get used to it. Took me about a month or two to really feel good with it.
You eat a lot of fat so you feel full.
Mainly I just eat meat, eggs, and cheese with a salad or green veggie a few times a week.
On the weekend I loosen up a little and have a bagel or two.
Also I have a few whiskies or vodkas during the week.
no more pre or post workout carbs at all either?...... fuck..
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i also use 3-4 iu of pharm grade hgh per day.... i have for years.... is that out the window too????
40-60 carbs may do it tbh. Sugar alcohols, fiber etc dont count.
GH increases insulin resistance so I would cut it out.
Metformin is quite weak but activates something called AMPK which has life extension properties and is worth taking simply for that. Ozempic is fantastic and will get you within range, you HBA1C is not even that bad dude, seriously. Most patients come in with 10-11.
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no more pre or post workout carbs at all either?...... fuck..
Once you get fat adapted you shouldn't be flat tbh. It's just that until you are you are struggling to utilize ketones effectively. You will still be flat mind you but not that stringy shit look if your fats remain high.
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A 37" waist at 5'6" should be an indication that your health isn't great. Diabetes being the only problem is a surprise at this point.
I know you don't want to stop lifting as you know it. It is what you know and like and eliminating it will make it feel like your life isn't worth living. But realistically you have to acknowledge :
1- You are not turning pro
2- You are not performing at a professional level in any sport
3- You are not making money off your body like a model or OnlyFans content creator
So adjusting your gym patterns are only beneficial to you. If you go the low carb route you are going to feel like shit for a long time until you mentally adjust to that and overcome it through will power. When your weight starts coming down, it will probably lead to depression. But just keep in mind that you are losing "the gym" you are actually gaining "more life". Don't be one of these that stick to old patterns simply for the comfort they bring.
Wishing you the best man. Follow what the doctors tell you. Ask questions. Read fellow gym warriors experiences and results on different boards. Learn as much as you can on your own.
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Weight training should definitely be part of your strategy going forward but cardio should be just as important.
Dr Roy Taylor is the guy who finally figured out type two diabetes. Look him up on YouTube. He found that every type two diabetic becomes that way when they reach their personal fat threshold. This is when your subcutaneous fat is maxed out and you start storing fat inside your liver and pancreas causing insulin resistance and diabetes.
Now, the personal fat threshold is just that, personal or unique. People from Asia reach it at way lower body weights than Europeans that is why diabetes is so rampant in India for instance. Skinny people who brag they can never gain weight and eat like they want and never exercise are simply storing their excess energy in their visceral fat which is really unhealthy. Energy is matter, it simply doesn’t disappear, it has to go somewhere and even if these skinny people have a high resting metabolic rate they can still easily surpass it.
Therefore, it is simply a disease of long term excess energy consumption which is what has happened to you.
If you want to reverse it and not have to take medications at all it is probably still possible if you do it early enough. I caught mine pretty early once my fasting glucose went over 100 consistently I knew I was headed for trouble. (My daughter was type one diabetic so I tested my own blood once in a while).
What did I do? I got lean as I could as fast as I could. I went from 245lbs at 6’3” to 175lbs in six months and all the symptoms disappeared. My fasting blood glucose is now 85 and an ultrasound shows no fatty liver anymore.
My waist went down to 32”
Do you have to cut out all carbs? I didn’t. I just counted calories every single day and never cheated on my set out diet once in that time period.
I eat lean ground beef, chicken breast, eggs, white rice, sweet potatoes, carrots, avocado, red pepper, cucumbers, zucchini, cauliflower, mushrooms.
My macros are about 33% protein, 33% carbs, 33% fat.
I lost all the weight eating around 2000 calories per day and now maintain on about 2400 calories.
I do fasted cardio 4 days a week and a basic dumbbell circuit 3 days a week. My days of being bulked are over.
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What about buying and using a CGM for a couple months?
You can see in real time what's going on...
https://medium.com/@marisnaylor/continuous-glucose-monitor-cgm-app-comparison-levels-veri-nutrisense-and-january-ai-368c08e263b8
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Type 2 is completely reversable through diet alone. Stay away from carbs and seed oils
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LOSE WEIGHT AND EAT HEALTHY
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i also use 3-4 iu of pharm grade hgh per day.... i have for years.... is that out the window too????
LOL talk about burying the lede. Stop the GH and your diabetes will likely resolve.
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Don't panic.
You need to make changes in your diet.
12-14% bf at 5'6" and 218? You are kidding yourself unless you are slamming gear and cutting for a show.
218 is way too heavy for your height of 5'6".
What to do:
Drastically lower carb consumption. No processed foods, no grains, no flour, no sugar.
Go on a very low carb, moderate protein, high fat diet. No more than 50g carbs a day. Doing this will lean you up.
A keto or carnivore diet.
Waist size should be no more than 1/2 height. So check that out.
Your waist should be no more than 33". Measured at navel.
No need for all those drugs they prescribed you which will likely just mess you up more.
>
Best foods to eat:
Meat, eggs, fish
Non-starch vegetables (green like broccoli)
Berries (but sparingly)
Cheese (not processed cheese), cream
Nuts, seeds
Butter, healthy oils (No canola, soybean, peanut, etc.) Use extra virgin olive oil.
Foods not to eat:
Juices
Fruit (not often)
Flour products
Grains (rice, wheat, cereals, etc.)
Sugars
Low fat foods
Trans fats (hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated foods)
Processed foods
7 foods not to eat - Dr. Ken Berry:
Pizza
Waffles, pancakes & syrup
Pasta
Hamburgers (buns and toppings are bad)
Hotdogs (buns and toppings are bad)
Angel food cake
Chicken nuggets
(Don't eat grains, sugars, vegetable oils)
I'm with you for everything right up to the Angel Food Cake. That's such an oddly specific thing to require being cut out.
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Mainly I just eat meat, eggs, and cheese
On the weekend I loosen up a little
^ smart eating
eggs
beef
cheese
butter
sea salt
is the magic recipe
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my waste is 37.25...
That's a HUGE turd!
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besides me???? just got diagnosed this morning.... a1c was 6.7, glucose 160.... this is crazy to me...43yrs old, 5'6 218lbs 12-14%... i do have a family history tho... ive also used both gh and slin over the years.... been prescribed metformin 500mg 2x per day,,, and ozempic once a week... can anyone tell me what im in for when it comes to the bodybuild/fitness lifestyle....thanks fellas
Lot of good advice from knowledgeable posters in this thread.
Lay off the supplements and clamp down on your diet.
Get that weight off and kick this shit out of your life!
Think of your family and get to work….. Good luck to you…..
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Lot of good advice from knowledgeable posters in this thread.
Lay off the supplements and clamp down on your diet.
Get that weight off and kick this shit out of your life!
Think of your family and get to work….. Good luck to you…..
down 25 lbs... blood sugar down to pre-diabetic level lol... just had 3 month appt w the doc... never had blood work so good honestly.. on 1/3 the gear too... no gh or slin... still looking jacked... i cant thank my gb bros enough here for all the advice on this.. going to cruise on 200mg test very soon.
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down 25 lbs... blood sugar down to pre-diabetic level lol... just had 3 month appt w the doc... never had blood work so good honestly.. on 1/3 the gear too... no gh or slin... still looking jacked... i cant thank my gb bros enough here for all the advice on this.. going to cruise on 200mg test very soon.
Glad to hear it tatoo. You got told what was up and fixed it. I got told basically the same thing and since have gained 30-40 lbs. I just don’t give a fuck at all. Wish I could. I went to keto fasting a couple weeks back and lost 30 lbs of water then said fuck it and gained it all back.
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down 25 lbs... blood sugar down to pre-diabetic level lol... just had 3 month appt w the doc... never had blood work so good honestly.. on 1/3 the gear too... no gh or slin... still looking jacked... i cant thank my gb bros enough here for all the advice on this.. going to cruise on 200mg test very soon.
That is awesome buddy.....so glad to hear it. :)
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down 25 lbs... blood sugar down to pre-diabetic level lol... just had 3 month appt w the doc... never had blood work so good honestly.. on 1/3 the gear too... no gh or slin... still looking jacked... i cant thank my gb bros enough here for all the advice on this.. going to cruise on 200mg test very soon.
Good job! Everyone with Type II should do this but most don't have the discipline.
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down 25 lbs... blood sugar down to pre-diabetic level lol... just had 3 month appt w the doc... never had blood work so good honestly.. on 1/3 the gear too... no gh or slin... still looking jacked... i cant thank my gb bros enough here for all the advice on this.. going to cruise on 200mg test very soon.
Awesome tatoo. Congrats.
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Glad to hear it tatoo. You got told what was up and fixed it. I got told basically the same thing and since have gained 30-40 lbs. I just don’t give a fuck at all. Wish I could. I went to keto fasting a couple weeks back and lost 30 lbs of water then said fuck it and gained it all back.
Getbig needs you, rob.
You must live for the sake of Getbig.
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Glad to hear it tatoo. You got told what was up and fixed it. I got told basically the same thing and since have gained 30-40 lbs. I just don’t give a fuck at all. Wish I could. I went to keto fasting a couple weeks back and lost 30 lbs of water then said fuck it and gained it all back.
I hear ya about not giving a fuck right now... it was tough to get mentally adjusted in the beginning.. you will do it when youre ready brother.. how old are you?
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I hear ya about not giving a fuck right now... it was tough to get mentally adjusted in the beginning.. you will do it when youre ready brother.. how old are you?
I’m 45 and being stupid but today is the day. I just went grocery shopping and no carbs or sugar at all. It sucks cause I like being big but fuck it I’ll feel better I guess. After going through this thread again I realized I gotta do it. I’ve been eating like a pig for about 3 months now and it’s been bad. So thanks for the motivation tatoo as I’m back on track today. Hoping to come down from 265 was todays weigh in to 225. Cardio back to 2-5 mile walks a day and dropping calories to 1500 keto and fasting 12/12 and lifting 3 days a week.
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I’m 45 and being stupid but today is the day. I just went grocery shopping and no carbs or sugar at all. It sucks cause I like being big but fuck it I’ll feel better I guess. After going through this thread again I realized I gotta do it. I’ve been eating like a pig for about 3 months now and it’s been bad. So thanks for the motivation tatoo as I’m back on track today. Hoping to come down from 265 was todays weigh in to 225. Cardio back to 2-5 mile walks a day and dropping calories to 1500 keto and fasting 12/12 and lifting 3 days a week.
best of luck brother.. go kill that shit.. itll go fuckin quick..not be debbie downer, tbh, i liked being bigger.. i was stronger. workouts had some pop too them... now im leaner, "look bigger" you know how that shit goes,.. workouts are getting better, lost 10-15 lbs on major lifts tho... i feel a lot heathier, not that i didnt before... fuckin clothes fit better, sleep is great,... been off gh for 3 months, not happy w that at fuckin all... fuckin get some bro!
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Keto is great if you can havent a thing to do
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Don't panic.
You need to make changes in your diet.
12-14% bf at 5'6" and 218? You are kidding yourself unless you are slamming gear and cutting for a show.
218 is way too heavy for your height of 5'6".
What to do:
Drastically lower carb consumption. No processed foods, no grains, no flour, no sugar.
Go on a very low carb, moderate protein, high fat diet. No more than 50g carbs a day. Doing this will lean you up.
A keto or carnivore diet.
Waist size should be no more than 1/2 height. So check that out.
Your waist should be no more than 33". Measured at navel.
No need for all those drugs they prescribed you which will likely just mess you up more.
>
Best foods to eat:
Meat, eggs, fish
Non-starch vegetables (green like broccoli)
Berries (but sparingly)
Cheese (not processed cheese), cream
Nuts, seeds
Butter, healthy oils (No canola, soybean, peanut, etc.) Use extra virgin olive oil.
Foods not to eat:
Juices
Fruit (not often)
Flour products
Grains (rice, wheat, cereals, etc.)
Sugars
Low fat foods
Trans fats (hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated foods)
Processed foods
7 foods not to eat - Dr. Ken Berry:
Pizza
Waffles, pancakes & syrup
Pasta
Hamburgers (buns and toppings are bad)
Hotdogs (buns and toppings are bad)
Angel food cake
Chicken nuggets
(Don't eat grains, sugars, vegetable oils)
cant thank you enough for this post my friend!! the blueprint right there...
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best of luck brother.. go kill that shit.. itll go fuckin quick..not be debbie downer, tbh, i liked being bigger.. i was stronger. workouts had some pop too them... now im leaner, "look bigger" you know how that shit goes,.. workouts are getting better, lost 10-15 lbs on major lifts tho... i feel a lot heathier, not that i didnt before... fuckin clothes fit better, sleep is great,... been off gh for 3 months, not happy w that at fuckin all... fuckin get some bro!
Thanks bro. Appreciate that. I’m heading out for my first 5 miles.
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Nothing personal against the poster or reply guys, but has getbig really got to the point where a perma bulker loses 25lbs and needs congratulating?
Maybe Bhanky was right!
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I’m 45 and being stupid but today is the day. I just went grocery shopping and no carbs or sugar at all. It sucks cause I like being big but fuck it I’ll feel better I guess. After going through this thread again I realized I gotta do it. I’ve been eating like a pig for about 3 months now and it’s been bad. So thanks for the motivation tatoo as I’m back on track today. Hoping to come down from 265 was todays weigh in to 225. Cardio back to 2-5 mile walks a day and dropping calories to 1500 keto and fasting 12/12 and lifting 3 days a week.
Go for it my brother from another mother!!
If I were you Rob,I would decrease calories slowly but steadily......it`ll just make it more tolerable until you gets used to it and your body adjusts to the new regimen.....just my 3 CC`s!!
In other words don`t drop from 5000 cals (just an example) to 1200 cals overnight or you`ll crash and burn......decrease cals progressively, just as you would add weight to a barbell would be my way of thinking, but I`m insane so fuck it :D
Good luck brother! ;)
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Go for it my brother from another mother!!
If I were you Rob,I would decrease calories slowly but steadily......it`ll just make it more tolerable until you gets used to it and your body adjusts to the new regimen.....just my 3 CC`s!!
In other words don`t drop from 5000 cals (just an example) to 1200 cals overnight or you`ll crash and burn......decrease cals progressively, just as you would add weight to a barbell would be my way of thinking, but I`m insane so fuck it :D
Good luck brother! ;)
Thank you sir, good call. I always crash diet and sometimes I make it sometimes I don’t. I will slowly lower over the next couple weeks.
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Nothing personal against the poster or reply guys, but has getbig really got to the point where a perma bulker loses 25lbs and needs congratulating?
Maybe Bhanky was right!
We're all fags.
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We're all fags.
simply posting here, in any context.. probably qualifies one as at least half a fag.
unfortunately.
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GAY THREAD REPORTED
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Nothing personal against the poster or reply guys, but has getbig really got to the point where a perma bulker loses 25lbs and needs congratulating?
Maybe Bhanky was right!
perma bulker? that was my winter/off season shape lol.. just had to start the summer diet that i ddnt plan on doing this year..nobody was looking for congrats faggit.. i was giving an update... but take the congrats too from these fellas!
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i also use 3-4 iu of pharm grade hgh per day.... i have for years.... is that out the window too????
post up some pics , i wanna see what a palumboism freak you are
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post up some pics , i wanna see what a palumboism freak you are
go to to a hankins thread pussy... another faggit looking for pics of men online.
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go to to a hankins thread pussy... another faggit looking for pics of men online.
show us your turtle shell gut and pig tits
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down 25 lbs... blood sugar down to pre-diabetic level lol... just had 3 month appt w the doc... never had blood work so good honestly.. on 1/3 the gear too... no gh or slin... still looking jacked... i cant thank my gb bros enough here for all the advice on this.. going to cruise on 200mg test very soon.
Great job! Congratulations!
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"When T2D care directed at disease reversal is successful, this includes achievement of restored metabolic health, glycemic control with reduced dependence on medication, and in some cases disease remission. Three non-pharmaceutical approaches have demonstrated high rates of at least temporary T2D diabetes reversal or remission: bariatric surgery, very low calorie diets (VLCD), and nutritional ketosis achieved through carbohydrate restriction. In controlled clinical trials, each approach has demonstrated improved glycemic control and CVD risk factors, reduced pharmaceutical dependence, and weight loss. The three approaches show a similar time-course with glycemic control preceding weight loss by weeks or months, suggesting potential overlap of mechanisms."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6561315/
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ive done it before.... it works... i was just so flat and fuckin weak.. no pump, no veins..... lol is that what my life is about to turn into?..
prob not having a foot amputated, so win
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I too am too fat for my liking but I think everyone who carries extra weight and especially when getting older should consider what joswift mentioned, Berberine, as a supplement. I am taking metformin since a buddy has some but I'm eventually switching to Berberine if/when the supply dries out.
Why not simply lose weight instead? Yes of course, but it's like a doc sees a newly type2 diagnosed patient, he's put on drugs immediately. Of course the doc will mention weight loss but he knows few will do it but some might take the medicine at least. It might sound crazy to some but many don't take their medication or only when "they remember to take it."
Aside from the metformin/berberine I started some other old school stuff that affects insulin action in the body, like chromium picolinate and lipoic acid.
https://examine.com/supplements/berberine/
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I too am too fat for my liking but I think everyone who carries extra weight and especially when getting older should consider what joswift mentioned, Berberine, as a supplement. I am taking metformin since a buddy has some but I'm eventually switching to Berberine if/when the supply dries out.
Why not simply lose weight instead? Yes of course, but it's like a doc sees a newly type2 diagnosed patient, he's put on drugs immediately. Of course the doc will mention weight loss but he knows few will do it but some might take the medicine at least. It might sound crazy to some but many don't take their medication or only when "they remember to take it."
Aside from the metformin/berberine I started some other old school stuff that affects insulin action in the body, like chromium picolinate and lipoic acid.
https://examine.com/supplements/berberine/
I've been thinking about metformin too for life extension.
Have you noticed any side effects?
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I too am too fat for my liking but I think everyone who carries extra weight and especially when getting older should consider what joswift mentioned, Berberine, as a supplement. I am taking metformin since a buddy has some but I'm eventually switching to Berberine if/when the supply dries out.
Why not simply lose weight instead? Yes of course, but it's like a doc sees a newly type2 diagnosed patient, he's put on drugs immediately. Of course the doc will mention weight loss but he knows few will do it but some might take the medicine at least. It might sound crazy to some but many don't take their medication or only when "they remember to take it."
Aside from the metformin/berberine I started some other old school stuff that affects insulin action in the body, like chromium picolinate and lipoic acid.
https://examine.com/supplements/berberine/
Are there any drugs you don't take?
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I’m 45 and being stupid but today is the day. I just went grocery shopping and no carbs or sugar at all. It sucks cause I like being big but fuck it I’ll feel better I guess. After going through this thread again I realized I gotta do it. I’ve been eating like a pig for about 3 months now and it’s been bad. So thanks for the motivation tatoo as I’m back on track today. Hoping to come down from 265 was todays weigh in to 225. Cardio back to 2-5 mile walks a day and dropping calories to 1500 keto and fasting 12/12 and lifting 3 days a week.
Good luck! No effing Angel Food cake though
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Good luck! No effing Angel Food cake though
Dr. Berry must have a weakness for Angel Food Cake.
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I've been thinking about metformin too for life extension.
Have you noticed any side effects?
Metformin was supposed to be bad on the gut. Same with Berberine. But I'm still only at 500mg but only think I noticed some mild hypoglycemia which I take as a positive sign.
Are there any drugs you don't take?
Today was a nice warm weather and thought I haven't even drunk a beer or smoked weed for about 2 years or more. I'd try a lot more if I had access but that might be bad for me. Right now the bad things I'm taking is Xanax and Tramadol along with naproxen to reduce inflammation for a badly strained back on friday. Of course I could do withount any painkillers but I like to feel a little "altered."
I see you American's PED lists and they look wonderful. More products, way cheaper gh, like 3 times cheaper. :D
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down 25 lbs... blood sugar down to pre-diabetic level lol... just had 3 month appt w the doc... never had blood work so good honestly.. on 1/3 the gear too... no gh or slin... still looking jacked... i cant thank my gb bros enough here for all the advice on this.. going to cruise on 200mg test very soon.
That’s great news! Happy for you and your family, tatoo.
And you still look jacked too? Lol. Awesome…. See, you don’t need all that stuff.
Keep getting better and congrats on your progress!
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Are pharmaceuticals less or more expensive in Europe vs. USA?
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When it comes to doing weight, the number one thing that has worked is reduce carbs. I barely eat carbs anymore.
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When it comes to doing weight, the number one thing that has worked is reduce carbs. I barely eat carbs anymore.
Carbs affect your blood glucose drastically, causing massive insulin dumps.
The large swings in blood glucose triggers the hunger response when blood glucose drops.
Your body says "Feed me!"
So you feel hungry often which makes it very difficult to cut your caloric intake.
The joke about feeling hungry again an hour after eating Chinese food is from this effect.
https://cookingupafamily.com/why-does-chinese-food-make-you-hungry/
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Carbs affect your blood glucose drastically, causing massive insulin dumps.
The large swings in blood glucose triggers the hunger response when blood glucose drops.
Your body says "Feed me!"
So you feel hungry often which makes it very difficult to cut your caloric intake.
The joke about feeling hungry again an hour or two after eating Chinese food is from this effect.
https://cookingupafamily.com/why-does-chinese-food-make-you-hungry/
Very deep stuff, broskie!
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Very deep stuff, broskie!
This is why the typical low cal diet is unsustainable.
You are always hungry and that is not pleasant.
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Must be a pandemic. I too started my mostly keto program today. Only thing I am doing differently is I'm having a cup of berries post training. Rasberries, blueberries and strawberries. These 1st two weeks will be the hardest. I've just been stuffing my face like a pig for far too long. Probably gonna give the edibles a rest too seeing as how all they make me do is want to fucking eat. LOL. What I love about keto is that after the 1st week, I really start seeing progress.
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Must be a pandemic. I too started my mostly keto program today. Only thing I am doing differently is I'm having a cup of berries post training. Rasberries, blueberries and strawberries. These 1st two weeks will be the hardest. I've just been stuffing my face like a pig for far too long. Probably gonna give the edibles a rest too seeing as how all they make me do is want to fucking eat. LOL. What I love about keto is that after the 1st week, I really start seeing progress.
Eat plenty of fat. Fatty meats, whole eggs, butter, etc.
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Eat plenty of fat. Fatty meats, whole eggs, butter, etc.
I know the drill but thank you. I've done this before. Before falling off the wagon, I had been on a really good couple year run doing keto. I need to never let this happen again.
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I know the drill but thank you. I've done this before. Before falling off the wagon, I had been on a really good couple year run doing keto. I need to never let this happen again.
My bad.
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Carbs affect your blood glucose drastically, causing massive insulin dumps.
The large swings in blood glucose triggers the hunger response when blood glucose drops.
Your body says "Feed me!"
So you feel hungry often which makes it very difficult to cut your caloric intake.
The joke about feeling hungry again an hour after eating Chinese food is from this effect.
https://cookingupafamily.com/why-does-chinese-food-make-you-hungry/
that makes you stronger though right? ???
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that makes you stronger though right? ???
Getting fat does help your leverage in lifting.
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My bad.
I apologize to you. I re-read my post and I came across as a prick. That wasn't my intention. No bad on your part. I own it. Sorry bud.
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I apologize to you. I re-read my post and I came across as a prick. That wasn't my intention. No bad on your part. I own it. Sorry bud.
No problem. I have a tendency to go into know-it-all mode.
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I just ate ground beef, carrots, onions, squash, peppers and broccoli.
Was tempted to pile on the potatoes and pasta but didn't.
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I just ate ground beef, carrots, onions, squash, peppers and broccoli.
Was tempted to pile on the potatoes and pasta but didn't.
Good decision. Carbs to me are the most addictive thing in the world.
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Good decision. Carbs to me are the most addictive thing in the world.
Agreed.
Sometimes I will eat some crackers or pita chips but I stay away from the real heavy carbs.
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Good decision. Carbs to me are the most addictive thing in the world.
Yes they are. Just finished my second day of keto fasting and already feel so much better.not sure why I got so far away from keto to begin with as I love it. Pissing like crazy which I love just deflating. I get addicted to carbs for the fullness I get in the muscles, pylumos are just crazy and always look full.
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I just ate ground beef, carrots, onions, squash, peppers and broccoli.
Was tempted to pile on the potatoes and pasta but didn't.
That sounds delicious.
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Yes they are. Just finished my second day of keto fasting and already feel so much better.not sure why I got so far away from keto to begin with as I love it. Pissing like crazy which I love just deflating. I get addicted to carbs for the fullness I get in the muscles, pylumos are just crazy and always look full.
Same here. This is day two for me also. Today I was a little sluggish. I know it will get better. I'm going two weeks before my first cheat meal.
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Same here. This is day two for me also. Today I was a little sluggish. I know it will get better. I'm going two weeks before my first cheat meal.
Yeah same for me 2 weeks, it sounds so awesome now but after two weeks I’m like do I even want a cheat meal? Haha.
Sluggish here as well but feel better overall in just two days.
What did you have today?
I had 4 scrambled eggs, 6 boneless chicken thighs,2 hamburger Pattie’s and 3 Atkins shakes.
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Yeah same for me 2 weeks, it sounds so awesome now but after two weeks I’m like do I even want a cheat meal? Haha.
Sluggish here as well but feel better overall in just two days.
What did you have today?
I had 4 scrambled eggs, 6 boneless chicken thighs,2 hamburger Pattie’s and 3 Atkins shakes.
I work nights, so I am just getting started. So far I've had a scoop of whey, celery and peanut butter in a shake. Another scoop of whey, cup of rasberries (not keto but for health reasons) and spoon of olive oil in a shake. A couple of keto peanut butter cups. 3 hard boiled eggs and a scoop of whey. I'm here until 5am. Next up will be a sirloin patty. Then a chicken breast with a quarter avocado. Then when I get home before bed I'll have a keto protein bar. The two shakes I start my day with...one is pre workout and the other is post workout.
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I have a friend who is a waiter for a Pappadeux Restaurant in Houston...In the U.S. the economics of the restaurant business is that once the overhead for each diner is paid, the size of the portions don't have a strong effect on the profit margin. So the motive is to provide very large portions to give a feeling of getting your money's worth...So the way to exploit this is to eat only half the meal there, then get the rest to go and put it in the fridge then reheat and eat the other portion later or the next day.
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You don't want to hear it but give up bodybuilding drugs. Adult onset diabetes is normally due to weight. Your weight at 5'6" is outrageously heavy. 180lbs is too heavy for that height. Drug muscle weight is the same strain to your body as being fat in terms of heart health and sugar related issues besides making your blood thicker in terms of viscosity. Your body can only produce x amount of insulin for a given bodyweight. Exceed that weight and high sugar levels will cause havoc. Remember diabetes destroys the heart in time. Lose just 25lbs and see if your sugar levels improve.
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You don't want to hear it but give up bodybuilding drugs. Adult onset diabetes is normally due to weight. Your weight at 5'6" is outrageously heavy. 180lbs is too heavy for that height. Drug muscle weight is the same strain to your body as being fat in terms of heart health and sugar related issues besides making your blood thicker in terms of viscosity. Your body can only produce x amount of insulin for a given bodyweight. Exceed that weight and high sugar levels will cause havoc. Remember diabetes destroys the heart in time. Lose just 25lbs and see if your sugar levels improve.
Most people have no idea how much over weight they really are. Look at the weight poster they have in doctor's offices.
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Most people have no idea how much over weight they really are. Look at the weight poster they have in doctor's offices.
The woke movement doesn't want doctors asking their patients about their weight. Seriously.
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The woke movement doesn't want doctors asking their patients about their weight. Seriously.
I believe that definitely. Heaven forbid we offend anyone.
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I believe that definitely. Heaven forbid we offend anyone.
my doc has been saying ive been too heavy for years.... told me i a should weigh 165 at my height.. i laughed in his fuckin face.. 165.. i was a freshman in hs for fucks sake when i weighed that..
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my doc has been saying ive been too heavy for years.... told me i a should weigh 165 at my height.. i laughed in his fuckin face.. 165.. i was a freshman in hs for fucks sake when i weighed that..
I do remember my dr saying I was obese at 6’2 240 as he was sitting there at about 5’9 250. Quite comical.
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my doc has been saying ive been too heavy for years.... told me i a should weigh 165 at my height.. i laughed in his fuckin face.. 165.. i was a freshman in hs for fucks sake when i weighed that..
That just means you were overweight as a freshman.
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We should all follow the science and start smoking Camels.......after our next Covid booster shot, of course.
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We should all follow the science and start smoking Camels.......after our next Covid booster shot, of course.
A coach in college used to chain smoke Camels. He had a really gravelly voice.
Died of lung cancer.
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A coach in college used to chain smoke Camels. He had a really gravelly voice.
Died of lung cancer.
I'm sure he had a pre-existing condition or Fauci gave him bad advices.
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my doc has been saying ive been too heavy for years.... told me i a should weigh 165 at my height.. i laughed in his fuckin face.. 165.. i was a freshman in hs for fucks sake when i weighed that..
Lower bodyweight is associated with greater longevity and less chronic illnesses. Assuming that kinda thing is important to you.