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Title: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 25, 2023, 08:29:58 AM
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Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Rambone on April 25, 2023, 08:39:43 AM
I have Ronnie by a nose
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: wes on April 25, 2023, 08:52:23 AM
They both look great but Ronnie`s  a  freakin monster!!
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: AbrahamG on April 25, 2023, 08:59:18 AM
I know if they were side by side I would probably feel differently. Pic vs pic though I think Lee looks better.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: wazhazbin on April 25, 2023, 09:26:33 AM
I know if they were side by side I would probably feel differently. Pic vs pic though I think Lee looks better.

bingo.   can't really compare til actually side by side.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Rambone on April 25, 2023, 09:32:16 AM
I know if they were side by side I would probably feel differently. Pic vs pic though I think Lee looks better.

Haney is closer to the camera
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 25, 2023, 09:35:23 AM
Haney is closer to the camera

I just tried to alter it...
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Rambone on April 25, 2023, 09:36:40 AM
I just tried to alter it

Now remove the medal so we can properly see Ronnie’s chest striations……








 :D
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 25, 2023, 09:40:11 AM
Now remove the medal so we can properly see Ronnie’s chest striations……








 :D

Ok. And I will also add the lighting from Kamali’s Kitchen to both pictures
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Rambone on April 25, 2023, 09:41:35 AM
Ok. And I will also add the lighting from Kamali’s Kitchen to both pictures

We want Hanky outdoor pool lighting 
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 25, 2023, 09:44:56 AM
We want Hanky outdoor pool lighting

And to add scale, I will include his pantry door in the backgrounds of the pics
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 25, 2023, 09:47:47 AM
 :)
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 25, 2023, 11:28:48 AM
:)

Haney was roughly 6-7 heavier than Coleman in this 91 vs 98 comparison
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Grape Ape on April 25, 2023, 11:50:43 AM
Haney was awesome, but Ronnie was on another level.

No comparison.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 25, 2023, 11:52:39 AM
Haney was roughly 6-7 heavier than Coleman in this 91 vs 98 comparison

Exact same weight both were 249lbs
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 25, 2023, 12:04:23 PM
Haney was awesome, but Ronnie was on another level.

No comparison.

Haney was gigantic in 1991... and...  on far less shit than Ronnie in 1998.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: affeman on April 25, 2023, 12:08:29 PM
Neither

(https://generationiron.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/unnamed-8.jpg)
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: robcguns on April 25, 2023, 12:09:15 PM
Haney was awesome, but Ronnie was on another level.

No comparison.

This.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: robcguns on April 25, 2023, 12:11:32 PM
I’m not buying that Haney competed at 249 or even 240s. I’d say 230. Arnold’s chest,arms and calfs dwarf haneys and he’s 5’10 compared to 6’2? Ronnie blows Haney away.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: robcguns on April 25, 2023, 12:12:32 PM
Neither

(https://generationiron.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/unnamed-8.jpg)

Walker looks like a fucking toad.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Skeletor on April 25, 2023, 12:14:56 PM
Ronnie looked good between 1996 and 2000. Beyond that he got too heavy imo.
Personally I prefer Lee's physique vs a 2003 or later Ronnie.

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/n3p0eYvp9To/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 25, 2023, 12:15:23 PM
I’m not buying that Haney competed at 249 or even 240s. I’d say 230. Arnold’s chest,arms and calfs dwarf haneys and he’s 5’10 compared to 6’2? Ronnie blows Haney away.

Haney was slightly bigger than Yates in 1991. And Yates was around 240-242.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Grape Ape on April 25, 2023, 12:21:56 PM
Haney was gigantic in 1991... and...  on far less shit than Ronnie in 1998.

So?

At their bests, Ronnie would wax him.

Even at same weight comparison you posted.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 25, 2023, 12:27:42 PM
So?

At their bests, Ronnie would wax him.

Even at same weight comparison you posted.

Put Lee Haney on Ronnie’s 2003 drug regimen and Haney would’ve beat Ronnie that year
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Grape Ape on April 25, 2023, 01:47:51 PM
Put Lee Haney on Ronnie’s 2003 drug regimen and Haney would’ve beat Ronnie that year


It's not like his arms would magically grow in relation to his torso, or any body part  would attain anything near Ronnie's level of shape, structure, development, and conditioning.

You making a hypothetical that you can't prove anyway, which is useless.  You have no idea what would happen if Haney took the same protocols.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 25, 2023, 01:54:10 PM

It's not like his arms would magically grow in relation to his torso, or any body part  would attain anything near Ronnie's level of shape, structure, development, and conditioning.

You making a hypothetical that you can't prove anyway, which is useless.  You have no idea what would happen if Haney took the same protocols.

Ronnie himself has already stated that Haney was better
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: beakdoctor on April 25, 2023, 02:03:48 PM
Haney was awesome, but Ronnie was on another level.

No comparison.

This is how I see it

Lee was great by all means. In fact he was awesome.  Total-Lee.

But I dont see this as being close at all. And even if it were objectively a 50/50 tie....  we all know who would when they turned around and hitched up one side of their thong and flexed their glutes.

Ronnie exposing a chiseled glute has the same effect as stealing a competitors blue t-shirt; it just totaly psychs out the competition.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: beakdoctor on April 25, 2023, 02:07:02 PM
Ronnie himself has already stated that Haney was better

This is irrelevant.  Ronnie is being humble. He also said Arnold would beat him and recently he said something about Chris Bumstead being an all time great.

Say what you want about Ronnie- unless people disrespected or dismissed him- he was always pretty humble.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Zillotch on April 25, 2023, 02:11:22 PM
coleman looks like shit.. narrow, even.. and could never stand next to haney
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: AbrahamG on April 25, 2023, 02:15:03 PM
coleman looks like shit.. narrow, even.. and could never stand next to haney

Fuck off.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Grape Ape on April 25, 2023, 02:41:04 PM
This is irrelevant.  Ronnie is being humble. He also said Arnold would beat him and recently he said something about Chris Bumstead being an all time great.

Say what you want about Ronnie- unless people disrespected or dismissed him- he was always pretty humble.

Exactly.

But the drug regiment guessing game is silly.  Lee's arms were small for his torso.  Going on insulin and everything will grow, and the disparity will look even greater.

It's fine for people to prefer the classic Haney and Arnold builds, but if they went up against prime Ronnie or Yates, they'd get destroyed.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: hench on April 25, 2023, 02:54:50 PM
The mm shows the flaws and yea coleman looks narrow in comparison, pinched shoulders.
Haney is leaning more forward in this particular shot but he looks better, coleman takes biceps.

coleman looks like shit.. narrow, even.. and could never stand next to haney
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: The Scott on April 25, 2023, 03:09:51 PM
Tough choice for me.  Both look pretty good.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Rambone on April 25, 2023, 03:10:50 PM
Fuck off.

Hahaha!
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Rambone on April 25, 2023, 03:11:50 PM
This is irrelevant.  Ronnie is being humble. He also said Arnold would beat him and recently he said something about Chris Bumstead being an all time great.

Say what you want about Ronnie- unless people disrespected or dismissed him- he was always pretty humble.

It’s just the pain pills talking. Right, Hanky?
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: ChristopherA on April 25, 2023, 03:20:27 PM
This is how I see it

Lee was great by all means. In fact he was awesome.  Total-Lee.

But I dont see this as being close at all. And even if it were objectively a 50/50 tie....  we all know who would when they turned around and hitched up one side of their thong and flexed their glutes.

Ronnie exposing a chiseled glute has the same effect as stealing a competitors blue t-shirt; it just totaly psychs out the competition.
Yes great point. Ronnie's glute/ham tie-ins carved our of stone are too much
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Zillotch on April 25, 2023, 03:24:36 PM
coleman has a wonky structure, horrid lines... from head to toe – basically a structural disaster.

he cant stand next to haney or yates in that regard...

this pic kinda illustrates what I'm talking about - haney and yates make the others look like a joke, structurally:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Fjackednatural.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F08%2Flat-spread-front.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=1a4fbd71fa6b62f7ef875be5c22ab46f8b5f508ecbefd1b7087b947a55273064&ipo=images)

structure is the foundation of a physique - start with a bad structure, and it does not matter how much mass u pile on... things will be askew
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Rambone on April 25, 2023, 03:41:18 PM
Yes great point. Ronnie's glute/ham tie-ins carved our of stone are too much

Me impatiently waiting for the “no homo” edit

(https://media4.giphy.com/media/3o72F8XwOUnXR2Nfzi/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: ChristopherA on April 25, 2023, 03:51:20 PM
coleman has a wonky structure, horrid lines... from head to toe – basically a structural disaster.

he cant stand next to haney or yates in that regard...

this pic kinda illustrates what I'm talking about - haney and yates make the others look like a joke, structurally:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Fjackednatural.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F08%2Flat-spread-front.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=1a4fbd71fa6b62f7ef875be5c22ab46f8b5f508ecbefd1b7087b947a55273064&ipo=images)

structure is the foundation of a physique - start with a bad structure, and it does not matter how much mass u pile on... things will be askew
Then Ronnie turns around and buries all of them. Yes he's better than Yates from the back.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: ChristopherA on April 25, 2023, 03:54:22 PM
Me impatiently waiting for the “no homo” edit

(https://media4.giphy.com/media/3o72F8XwOUnXR2Nfzi/giphy.gif)
Bwahahaha! No homo. Forgive me, I'm out of it. I been nodding out, these percs got me flying today
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Rambone on April 25, 2023, 03:54:45 PM
Then Ronnie turns around and buries all of them. Yes he's better than Yates from the back.

I don’t appreciate the fact that they use 2003 Ronnie with a fully belly and slightly blown-out frame, but use Dorian and others in their prime (excluding Heath). Grand Prix Ronnie beats all
 
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/53UBbBZvMy8/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Rambone on April 25, 2023, 03:55:02 PM
Bwahahaha! No homo. Forgive me, I'm out of it. I been nodding out, these percs got me flying today

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Dokey111 on April 25, 2023, 04:12:30 PM
big ron had twice the bicep
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: robcguns on April 25, 2023, 05:24:05 PM

It's not like his arms would magically grow in relation to his torso, or any body part  would attain anything near Ronnie's level of shape, structure, development, and conditioning.

You making a hypothetical that you can't prove anyway, which is useless.  You have no idea what would happen if Haney took the same protocols.

This.

Ronnie was a mutant alien freak. Untouchable still to this day and prob for a long time to come. The hanging beef is insane.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: The Scott on April 25, 2023, 07:07:48 PM
This is irrelevant.  Ronnie is being humble. He also said Arnold would beat him and recently he said something about Chris Bumstead being an all time great.

Say what you want about Ronnie- unless people disrespected or dismissed him- he was always pretty humble.

I viewed that interview with Ronnie on Arnold and was surprised by his steadfastness that Arnold with their "nutrition" would destroy them all.  No hesitation on his part.  He said Arnold  standing next to him would make him (Ronnie) "look like a little boy". 

He is right.  Given his track record, height and sheer determination a young Arnold would not hold back anything.  He is now a cuck but back then?  And that man brought into today with today's drugs?  Talk about freaks of nature?  There would be nothing natural about him, more otherworldly if you consider it is Arnold that Ronnie was speaking on.

But again, I think both Haney and Coleman are great.  I am more a Steve Reeves, Dave Draper, Serge Nubret and Frank Zane fan and as for Arnold, I have no problem saying he is the best that has ever been. 
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: wazhazbin on April 25, 2023, 08:28:34 PM
I don’t appreciate the fact that they use 2003 Ronnie with a fully belly and slightly blown-out frame, but use Dorian and others in their prime (excluding Heath). Grand Prix Ronnie beats all
 
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/53UBbBZvMy8/hqdefault.jpg)

inhuman
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 26, 2023, 12:47:43 AM
I know this. Lee Haney is only 5 years older than Ronnie. Lee retired after the 1991 Olympia. And Lee got out before the drug usage was taken to the next-level.


I also know that Dorian beat Ronnie every time that they ever competed against each other. And Haney competed against Dorian once, and Haney won.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: sculpture on April 26, 2023, 12:51:48 AM
I know this. Lee Haney is only 5 years older than Ronnie. Lee retired after the 1991 Olympia. And Lee got out before the drug usage was taken to the next-level.


I also know that Dorian beat Ronnie every time that they ever competed against each other. And Haney competed against Dorian once, and Haney won.

So you know the history as we all do

Whats your point?

Are you suggesting that because Lee beat Dorian who in turn beat Ronnie then that means Lee would beat Ronnie?
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 26, 2023, 01:05:57 AM
So you know the history as we all do

Whats your point?

Are you suggesting that because Lee beat Dorian who in turn beat Ronnie then that means Lee would beat Ronnie?

If the drug usage was the same w/Haney & Coleman, yes
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 26, 2023, 01:20:00 AM
4 years after Haney retired... Ronnie looked slightly better than a average pro

1995 Mr Olympia

Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Rambone on April 26, 2023, 01:22:51 AM
4 years after Haney retired... Ronnie looked slightly better than a average pro

1995 Mr Olympia

Ronnie in Europe taking the train 8 hours and getting last place at every show.

Kevin: “Ronnie, why do you keep doing all of this, man!?

Ronnie: “You know I love the sport, Kevin!”
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Royalty on April 26, 2023, 01:27:51 AM
1991 Haney would’ve easily, and I mean easily would’ve beaten 1995 Coleman
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: honest on April 26, 2023, 02:55:48 AM
Haney had a great structure, Ronnie did not, Ronnie just had muscle, he was better than Cutler and Heath but Haneys structure wise leaves him for dead, But Ron muscle and condition wise at his best over compensates his structural weaknesses and beats Haney.

Haney retired as the rate of Yates progress put the writing on the wall, he could try taking his body to the next level by upping the dose or retire, he retired, honourable guy definitely one of the very best advertisements for the sport, in retirement better than all of them especially the cuck Arnold.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: robcguns on April 26, 2023, 03:19:03 AM
I know this. Lee Haney is only 5 years older than Ronnie. Lee retired after the 1991 Olympia. And Lee got out before the drug usage was taken to the next-level.


I also know that Dorian beat Ronnie every time that they ever competed against each other. And Haney competed against Dorian once, and Haney won.

Lee beat doZ before doZ was really doZ and doZ beat Ronnie before Ronnie was really Ronnie. 
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: hipolito mejia on April 26, 2023, 06:39:05 AM
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look how tight the skin around belly buttom over 240 lbs  and winning O for the 8th time at age 31  ...

you would never see something like that NEVER not even at a first Olympia win attempt at any age

Lee Haney dominating when the ideal physique was Demey Benfatto christian Labrada Paris etc
crazy when you think about it
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: funk51 on April 26, 2023, 07:16:16 AM
   
   
&t=13s   lee haney for the win.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: thebrink on April 26, 2023, 08:15:34 PM
Fuck off.

As big and as much as a monster that Ronnie was, his traps did slope abruptly and gave him the appearance of being narrow. Haney didn't have traps as developed and appeared wider. People not giving Haney enough credit here.
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: thebrink on April 26, 2023, 08:18:50 PM
I don’t appreciate the fact that they use 2003 Ronnie with a fully belly and slightly blown-out frame, but use Dorian and others in their prime (excluding Heath). Grand Prix Ronnie beats all
 
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/53UBbBZvMy8/hqdefault.jpg)

Heath isn't even in the conversation in that lineup...
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: dunkin donuts on April 26, 2023, 09:36:08 PM
Neither

(https://generationiron.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/unnamed-8.jpg)
dead before may 2028
Title: Re: 1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 27, 2023, 05:09:05 AM
Lee Haney retired as the most dominant bodybuilder in history at age 31

at age 33 Ronnie was 9th at the O with 14 inches calves

If he managed to grow calves and gut with insulin and GH in his mid 30's and be on top while trainning like an idiot

Im sure Haney would have done more than that with same drug protocols without breaking his back and joints




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