1991 Lee Haney Most Muscular VS ‘98 Ronnie

[Royalty]

It's not like his arms would magically grow in relation to his torso, or any body part  would attain anything near Ronnie's level of shape, structure, development, and conditioning.

You making a hypothetical that you can't prove anyway, which is useless.  You have no idea what would happen if Haney took the same protocols.

Ronnie himself has already stated that Haney was better

[beakdoctor]

Haney was awesome, but Ronnie was on another level.

No comparison.

This is how I see it

Lee was great by all means. In fact he was awesome.  Total-Lee.

But I dont see this as being close at all. And even if it were objectively a 50/50 tie....  we all know who would when they turned around and hitched up one side of their thong and flexed their glutes.

Ronnie exposing a chiseled glute has the same effect as stealing a competitors blue t-shirt; it just totaly psychs out the competition.

[beakdoctor]

Ronnie himself has already stated that Haney was better

This is irrelevant.  Ronnie is being humble. He also said Arnold would beat him and recently he said something about Chris Bumstead being an all time great.

Say what you want about Ronnie- unless people disrespected or dismissed him- he was always pretty humble.

[Zillotch]

coleman looks like shit.. narrow, even.. and could never stand next to haney

[AbrahamG]

coleman looks like shit.. narrow, even.. and could never stand next to haney

Fuck off.

[Grape Ape]

This is irrelevant.  Ronnie is being humble. He also said Arnold would beat him and recently he said something about Chris Bumstead being an all time great.

Say what you want about Ronnie- unless people disrespected or dismissed him- he was always pretty humble.

Exactly.

But the drug regiment guessing game is silly.  Lee's arms were small for his torso.  Going on insulin and everything will grow, and the disparity will look even greater.

It's fine for people to prefer the classic Haney and Arnold builds, but if they went up against prime Ronnie or Yates, they'd get destroyed.

[hench]

The mm shows the flaws and yea coleman looks narrow in comparison, pinched shoulders.
Haney is leaning more forward in this particular shot but he looks better, coleman takes biceps.

coleman looks like shit.. narrow, even.. and could never stand next to haney

[The Scott]

Tough choice for me.  Both look pretty good.

[Rambone]

Fuck off.

Hahaha!

[Rambone]

This is irrelevant.  Ronnie is being humble. He also said Arnold would beat him and recently he said something about Chris Bumstead being an all time great.

Say what you want about Ronnie- unless people disrespected or dismissed him- he was always pretty humble.

It’s just the pain pills talking. Right, Hanky?

[ChristopherA]

This is how I see it

Lee was great by all means. In fact he was awesome.  Total-Lee.

But I dont see this as being close at all. And even if it were objectively a 50/50 tie....  we all know who would when they turned around and hitched up one side of their thong and flexed their glutes.

Ronnie exposing a chiseled glute has the same effect as stealing a competitors blue t-shirt; it just totaly psychs out the competition.

Yes great point. Ronnie's glute/ham tie-ins carved our of stone are too much

[Zillotch]

coleman has a wonky structure, horrid lines... from head to toe – basically a structural disaster.

he cant stand next to haney or yates in that regard...

this pic kinda illustrates what I'm talking about - haney and yates make the others look like a joke, structurally:



structure is the foundation of a physique - start with a bad structure, and it does not matter how much mass u pile on... things will be askew

[Rambone]

Yes great point. Ronnie's glute/ham tie-ins carved our of stone are too much

Me impatiently waiting for the “no homo” edit

[ChristopherA]

coleman has a wonky structure, horrid lines... from head to toe – basically a structural disaster.

he cant stand next to haney or yates in that regard...

this pic kinda illustrates what I'm talking about - haney and yates make the others look like a joke, structurally:



structure is the foundation of a physique - start with a bad structure, and it does not matter how much mass u pile on... things will be askew

Then Ronnie turns around and buries all of them. Yes he's better than Yates from the back.

[ChristopherA]

Me impatiently waiting for the “no homo” edit

Bwahahaha! No homo. Forgive me, I'm out of it. I been nodding out, these percs got me flying today

[Rambone]

Then Ronnie turns around and buries all of them. Yes he's better than Yates from the back.

I don’t appreciate the fact that they use 2003 Ronnie with a fully belly and slightly blown-out frame, but use Dorian and others in their prime (excluding Heath). Grand Prix Ronnie beats all
 

[Rambone]

Bwahahaha! No homo. Forgive me, I'm out of it. I been nodding out, these percs got me flying today

 

[Dokey111]

big ron had twice the bicep

[robcguns]

It's not like his arms would magically grow in relation to his torso, or any body part  would attain anything near Ronnie's level of shape, structure, development, and conditioning.

You making a hypothetical that you can't prove anyway, which is useless.  You have no idea what would happen if Haney took the same protocols.

This.

Ronnie was a mutant alien freak. Untouchable still to this day and prob for a long time to come. The hanging beef is insane.

[The Scott]

This is irrelevant.  Ronnie is being humble. He also said Arnold would beat him and recently he said something about Chris Bumstead being an all time great.

Say what you want about Ronnie- unless people disrespected or dismissed him- he was always pretty humble.

I viewed that interview with Ronnie on Arnold and was surprised by his steadfastness that Arnold with their "nutrition" would destroy them all.  No hesitation on his part.  He said Arnold  standing next to him would make him (Ronnie) "look like a little boy". 

He is right.  Given his track record, height and sheer determination a young Arnold would not hold back anything.  He is now a cuck but back then?  And that man brought into today with today's drugs?  Talk about freaks of nature?  There would be nothing natural about him, more otherworldly if you consider it is Arnold that Ronnie was speaking on.

But again, I think both Haney and Coleman are great.  I am more a Steve Reeves, Dave Draper, Serge Nubret and Frank Zane fan and as for Arnold, I have no problem saying he is the best that has ever been. 

[wazhazbin]

I don’t appreciate the fact that they use 2003 Ronnie with a fully belly and slightly blown-out frame, but use Dorian and others in their prime (excluding Heath). Grand Prix Ronnie beats all
 

inhuman

[Royalty]

I know this. Lee Haney is only 5 years older than Ronnie. Lee retired after the 1991 Olympia. And Lee got out before the drug usage was taken to the next-level.


I also know that Dorian beat Ronnie every time that they ever competed against each other. And Haney competed against Dorian once, and Haney won.

[sculpture]

I know this. Lee Haney is only 5 years older than Ronnie. Lee retired after the 1991 Olympia. And Lee got out before the drug usage was taken to the next-level.


I also know that Dorian beat Ronnie every time that they ever competed against each other. And Haney competed against Dorian once, and Haney won.

So you know the history as we all do

Whats your point?

Are you suggesting that because Lee beat Dorian who in turn beat Ronnie then that means Lee would beat Ronnie?

[Royalty]

So you know the history as we all do

Whats your point?

Are you suggesting that because Lee beat Dorian who in turn beat Ronnie then that means Lee would beat Ronnie?

If the drug usage was the same w/Haney & Coleman, yes

[Royalty]

4 years after Haney retired... Ronnie looked slightly better than a average pro

1995 Mr Olympia