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Title: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 12, 2023, 02:32:22 PM
….as “insurance policy”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-burisma-executive-who-allegedly-paid-biden-has-audio-recordings-of-conversations-with-joe-hunter
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: illuminati on June 12, 2023, 02:36:58 PM
….as “insurance policy”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-burisma-executive-who-allegedly-paid-biden-has-audio-recordings-of-conversations-with-joe-hunter


Could be interesting,  if true .
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 12, 2023, 03:12:30 PM
Brutal..

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1668375398164447233?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 12, 2023, 04:11:12 PM
I just look at the thread title and then wait to see the getbiggers argue to see if the article is true or not.
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: illuminati on June 12, 2023, 07:47:06 PM
Allegedly , has tapes - does he or doesn’t he - play them if he does.


The Foreign national may just have an unfortunate Killary Accident
if they know who he is.
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 12, 2023, 09:01:26 PM
Fantastic opening monologue…


https://twitter.com/jessebwatters/status/1668412655445442560?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 12, 2023, 09:23:53 PM
Hahahah the meltdown and distraction attempts continue.
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 12, 2023, 10:00:27 PM
I've read as much info as I cared to on this from left and right sources. I'm all for congress looking into it. What would bother me is if Grassley knew since he read the document already, was playing ignorant to build up a lot of inuendo for political reasons. When he was asked about if there was anything to the allegations, he demurred by saying it's really not up to him to decide. That tells me it's likely nothing as I know had there been something there he wouldn't have been able to contain himself

“Let’s put it this way. There’s accusations in it, but it’s not for me to make a judgment about whether these accusations are accurate or not,” Grassley said of the FD-1023 file. “It’s my job to make sure the FBI is doing their job, and that’s what this is all about, as far as I’m concerned. The public’s business ought to be public.”

I don't know but to me it sounds like a distraction from Trumps indictment.
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 13, 2023, 12:10:29 AM
I've read as much info as I cared to on this from left and right sources. I'm all for congress looking into it. What would bother me is if Grassley knew since he read the document already, was playing ignorant to build up a lot of inuendo for political reasons. When he was asked about if there was anything to the allegations, he demurred by saying it's really not up to him to decide. That tells me it's likely nothing as I know had there been something there he wouldn't have been able to contain himself

“Let’s put it this way. There’s accusations in it, but it’s not for me to make a judgment about whether these accusations are accurate or not,” Grassley said of the FD-1023 file. “It’s my job to make sure the FBI is doing their job, and that’s what this is all about, as far as I’m concerned. The public’s business ought to be public.”

I don't know but to me it sounds like a distraction from Trumps indictment.

You got it twisted.  Trump's indictment is an attempt to distract from Biden's corruption. 

Are you the least bit curious about the millions of dollars the Biden family members received from foreign governments that were funneled through multiple LLCs and bank accounts? 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 13, 2023, 12:01:44 PM
You got it twisted.  Trump's indictment is an attempt to distract from Biden's corruption. 

Are you the least bit curious about the millions of dollars the Biden family members received from foreign governments that were funneled through multiple LLCs and bank accounts?

No. Pretty sure the indictment is for crimes. Specifically the ones contained in it.  It's spelled out pretty clearly.  Deflection isn't going to work here.

Unless you are saying Trumpy deliberately committed these crimes in an effort to help distract attention  from Biden.   ::)
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 13, 2023, 07:27:43 PM
No. Pretty sure the indictment is for crimes. Specifically the ones contained in it.  It's spelled out pretty clearly.  Deflection isn't going to work here.

Unless you are saying Trumpy deliberately committed these crimes in an effort to help distract attention  from Biden.   ::)

No, of course you're not the least bit curious about why the Biden family sent up 20 LLCs to receive millions of dollars from foreign governments.  There is nothing innocent about that.
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 13, 2023, 11:48:20 PM
No, of course you're not the least bit curious about why the Biden family sent up 20 LLCs to receive millions of dollars from foreign governments.  There is nothing innocent about that.


One has nothing to do with the other. I know you would like it to be so, so you can have an excuse to whine about.  But it isn’t.

Please tell us more about this indictment being a “distraction”.  :D
You mean no crimes were committed?  Specifically the ones clearly spelled out in the indictment?
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 14, 2023, 12:01:14 AM


One has nothing to do with the other. I know you would like it to be so, so you can have an excuse to whine about.  But it isn’t.

Please tell us more about this indictment being a “distraction”.  :D
You mean no crimes were committed?  Specifically the ones clearly spelled out in the indictment?

You cannot even comment on the Biden shell game.  Millions of dollars from foreign adversaries funneled through multiple Biden family LLCs.  Money provided to Biden family members who did nothing to earn the money.  And you cannot even think about it.  Not surprised.  It requires intellectual honesty and analytical ability. 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: illuminati on June 14, 2023, 12:20:55 AM
You cannot even comment on the Biden shell game.  Millions of dollars from foreign adversaries funneled through multiple Biden family LLCs.  Money provided to Biden family members who did nothing to earn the money.  And you cannot even think about it.  Not surprised.  It requires intellectual honesty and analytical ability.

Strange how it's See no evil, Hear no evil & Speak noevil when it comes
to all Things regarding the Biden crime family.

Only Trumpy Orange Man Bad is there embedded Mantra   ::)




Oh lets see how long it takes ILS / TDS
WOOF WOOF the POOF POOF for his Pavlov response to kick in.  ;D
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 14, 2023, 12:32:54 AM
You cannot even comment on the Biden shell game.  Millions of dollars from foreign adversaries funneled through multiple Biden family LLCs.  Money provided to Biden family members who did nothing to earn the money.  And you cannot even think about it.  Not surprised.  It requires intellectual honesty and analytical ability.

You can not comment on the indictment.  Other than try to downplay it and make excuses for it.  Not surprised.

Here’s something for your “intellectual honesty and analytical ability”.   ::)   If this indictment is just a distraction for the little shell company issue Trumpturds are whining about this week, how could they possibly timed the scenario to concluded at the exact same time?  What amazing planning they must have done to start a “fake raid” over 9 months ago, conduct a “fake investigation” and bring about a “fake indictment “ on the exact same week people started whining about shell companies.  It’s like they knew in advance that they needed something to drop the third week of June so people wouldn’t notice Biden and the millions and millions of dollars that Trumpturds are whining about.  How is such precise timing possible?

Actually you don’t need intellectual honesty or analytical ability. You just need common sense.  It’s a real indictment with real crimes that really occurred as documented by a real investigation.  The only distraction is the “shell game” whining that hypocrites are doing in order to DISTRACT from the indictment.  You know… the indictment that you can’t even “think about”.

 :)
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 14, 2023, 12:34:41 AM
Strange how it's See no evil, Hear no evil & Speak noevil when it comes
to all Things regarding the Biden crime family.

Only Trumpy Orange Man Bad is there embedded Mantra   ::)




Oh lets see how long it takes ILS / TDS
WOOF WOOF the POOF POOF for his Pavlov response to kick in.  ;D

Strange how people actually place more emphasis on things with proof behind them and not mindless whinings.  Whinings like foreign twats do regarding politics of countries they can’t even vote in.

Now tell us some more lies.  We will believe you.  We promise. 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 14, 2023, 12:37:55 AM
You can not comment on the indictment.  Other than try to downplay it and make excuses for it.  Not surprised.

Here’s something for your “intellectual honesty and analytical ability”.   ::)   If this indictment is just a distraction for the little shell company issue Trumpturds are whining about this week, how could they possibly times the scenario to concluded at the exact same time?  What amazing planning they must have done to start a “fake raid” over 9 months ago, conduct a “fake investigation” and bring about a “fake indictment “ on the exact same week people started whining about shell companies.  It’s like they knew in advance that they needed something to drop the third week of June so people wouldn’t notice Biden and the millions and millions of dollars that Trumpturds are whining about.  How is such precise timing possible?

Actually you don’t need intellectual honesty or analytical ability. You just need common sense.  It’s a real indictment with real crimes that really occurred as documented by a real investigation.  The only distraction is the “shell game” whining that hypocrites are doing in order to DISTRACT from the indictment.  You know… the indictment that you can’t even “think about”.

 :)

This thread is about Biden.  And you typed all that without addressing the Biden shell game.  Again.  But this is the typical liberal/progressive approach.  Just ignore it.  Anyone who is intellectually honest and actually looks at the shell game can see how incredibly damning it is. 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 14, 2023, 12:41:35 AM
This thread is about Biden.  And you typed all that without addressing the Biden shell game.  Again.  But this is the typical liberal/progressive approach.  Just ignore it.  Anyone who is intellectually honest and actually looks at the shell game can see how incredibly damning it is.

This thread is about using Biden to make excuses for Trumpys indictment and distract from it.  I typed all that as proof of a weak ass attempt to pass off a nothing burger.

Tell us more how the reality of the indictment is a “distraction “ from whining. 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 14, 2023, 06:42:51 AM
This thread is about using Biden to make excuses for Trumpys indictment and distract from it.  I typed all that as proof of a weak ass attempt to pass off a nothing burger.

Tell us more how the reality of the indictment is a “distraction “ from whining.

LOL - there are now both sides of the coin verifying this - the business partners to the Bidens on the USA side, and the side paying the bribe saying they have 17 recordings on tape of the bribe.  Biden lied about this remember?   
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: illuminati on June 14, 2023, 06:56:35 AM
 ;D :D ;D

Ha Ha Ha

I see WOOF WOOF the POOF POOF couldnt stop it's self from posting
Directly after me  ;D

The Pavlov response is overwhelming
I've got it so well trained.  ;D


You are ignoring this user

You are ignoring this user
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Gym Rat on June 14, 2023, 09:09:06 AM
This thread is about using Biden to make excuses for Trumpys indictment and distract from it.  I typed all that as proof of a weak ass attempt to pass off a nothing burger.

Tell us more how the reality of the indictment is a “distraction “ from whining.

And thats what libs do in each Biden thread. All the same. You must see it, or no??

When talking of the shitter, people would post Trump memes and vids, etc.
Same behavior, different party... Making fun of one, is talking shit about both and all...
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 14, 2023, 10:42:06 AM
The situation is clear with “distraction”.  You have reality where a very real indictment sets.  Listing very real specific crimes. 

Then you have LaLa Land claims that these crimes and consequences are a distraction from (fill in the blank) about (fill in the blank) regarding (fill in the blank) with someone.    But yet offer no proof.   

It’s nothing more than just weak whataboutism to downplay and deny the very real evidence of wrong doing for Trumpy. 

When charges are filed against whoever or whatever for something that happened for real then it would be a more realistic comparison.  Right now it’s just spitballs in the wind because Trumpturds have to make themselves feel better somehow and defend Ol Orange.
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 14, 2023, 01:34:56 PM
This thread is about using Biden to make excuses for Trumpys indictment and distract from it.  I typed all that as proof of a weak ass attempt to pass off a nothing burger.

Tell us more how the reality of the indictment is a “distraction “ from whining.

What do you think the Biden family did to earn the $10+ million they received from foreign adversaries? 

What exactly were the adversaries paying for? 

What do you think is the innocent explanation for the Biden family setting up multiple shell companies for the sole purpose of receiving millions of dollars from foreign adversaries? 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 14, 2023, 01:40:50 PM
What do you think the Biden family did to earn the $10+ million they received from foreign adversaries? 

What exactly were the adversaries paying for? 

What do you think is the innocent explanation for the Biden family setting up multiple shell companies for the sole purpose of receiving millions of dollars from foreign adversaries?

That is what an investigation will reveal.  When's it start?
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 14, 2023, 02:18:49 PM
That is what an investigation will reveal.  When's it start?

I didn't expect you to answer. 

These are not setup questions.  I have tried to think about innocent explanations for all three, but I don't think there are any.  Typically, the only people setting up multiple shell companies for the sole purpose of receiving large sums of money are doing something bad. 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Primemuscle on June 14, 2023, 02:45:47 PM
You got it twisted.  Trump's indictment is an attempt to distract from Biden's corruption. 

Are you the least bit curious about the millions of dollars the Biden family members received from foreign governments that were funneled through multiple LLCs and bank accounts?

 ::)

Note the dates:

On August 8, 2022, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) executed a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, the residence of former U.S. president Donald Trump

Appointed by Attorney General Merrick Garland, Smith was tasked in November (2022) to look into whether Trump or his aides committed crimes by taking classified documents to his Mar-a-Lago resort.

The United States House Oversight Committee investigation into the Biden family is an ongoing investigation by the United States House of Representatives into US President Joe Biden's alleged "involvement in his family's foreign business practices and international influence peddling schemes". The investigation was initiated on January 11, 2023, by Republican committee chairman James Comer and includes examination of the foreign business activities of Biden's son, Hunter, and brother, James. The committee is also investigating Twitter's involvement in the Hunter Biden laptop controversy. By May 2023 the investigation had found no evidence of wrongdoing by President Biden.

 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 14, 2023, 08:37:15 PM
Strange how it's See no evil, Hear no evil & Speak noevil when it comes
to all Things regarding the Biden crime family.

Only Trumpy Orange Man Bad is there embedded Mantra   ::)




Oh lets see how long it takes ILS / TDS
WOOF WOOF the POOF POOF for his Pavlov response to kick in.  ;D

With Trump, I waited until the indictment came out to talk about it. Seems rational to me.
With Biden, I will wait for the indictment to come out. Seems rational to me.

We CAN talk amongst ourselves all day long about innuendo, accusations, anonymous tips.. but at the end of the day.. it would just be a waste of time.
When the proof/evidence/indictment is provided on Biden, you'll hear from me. That sound reasonable?
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 14, 2023, 11:59:34 PM
I didn't expect you to answer. 

These are not setup questions.  I have tried to think about innocent explanations for all three, but I don't think there are any.  Typically, the only people setting up multiple shell companies for the sole purpose of receiving large sums of money are doing something bad.

I don’t expect you to answer either. Just assume or exaggerate or deflect.  Just like you always do.

Again you have no proof of this.  It’s just an excuse or a “distraction” of whataboutism because Trumpy got that indictment stuck up his ass.  Which is as far from a distraction as you can get.
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2023, 12:02:18 AM
This thread isn’t turning out the way the Trumpturds hoped. Nobody is buying into the circle jerk distraction of actual facts and evidence behind the indictment as opposed to “shell company” fluff.  ::)
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: The Gov on June 15, 2023, 04:40:32 AM
This thread isn’t turning out the way the Trumpturds hoped. Nobody is buying into the circle jerk distraction of actual facts and evidence behind the indictment as opposed to “shell company” fluff.  ::)

circle jerk ?? everything you write is about gay perverse things and children, pathetic low iQ loser.
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Princess L on June 15, 2023, 06:53:10 AM
Vice-President Joe Biden said he considered selling his home to help support his dying son’s family.
Obama offered to help Biden, who earns $230,000 annually.
Joe and Jill Biden reported an adjusted gross income of $388,844 on their 2014 tax return.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/11/politics/joe-biden-barack-obama-financial-help/index.html

Tue January 12, 2016
Washington CNN  —

As his eldest son faced the prospect of resigning as Delaware’s attorney general amid health concerns, Vice President Joe Biden received an offer that floored him: financial support from his boss, President Barack Obama.

In the never been told before story, Biden recalled how concerned Obama had been.

Describing in an interview with CNN chief political analyst Gloria Borger one of his weekly lunches with Obama, Biden said he told the President he was worried about caring for Beau’s family without his son’s salary.

“I said, ‘But I worked it out.’” Biden recalled telling Obama. “I said, ‘But – Jill and I will sell the house and be in good shape.’”

Obama, Biden remembered, pushed back vehemently on the thought of Biden and his wife selling their home in Wilmington, Delaware.

 “He got up and he said, ‘Don’t sell that house. Promise me you won’t sell the house,’” Biden continued, speculating Obama would be “mad” he was retelling the story.

“He said, ‘I’ll give you the money. Whatever you need, I’ll give you the money. Don’t, Joe – promise me. Promise me.’ I said, ‘I don’t think we’re going to have to anyway.’ He said, ‘promise me,’” Biden recalled.

________________________ ________________________ ____

While still serving as vice president, his net worth was $2.5 million, but in the years between holding political office his net worth shot up to $8 million, according to Forbes. Celebrity Net Worth pegs Biden's estimated net worth at $9 million.

Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: illuminati on June 15, 2023, 08:40:23 AM
Vice-President Joe Biden said he considered selling his home to help support his dying son’s family.
Obama offered to help Biden, who earns $230,000 annually.
Joe and Jill Biden reported an adjusted gross income of $388,844 on their 2014 tax return.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/11/politics/joe-biden-barack-obama-financial-help/index.html

Tue January 12, 2016
Washington CNN  —

As his eldest son faced the prospect of resigning as Delaware’s attorney general amid health concerns, Vice President Joe Biden received an offer that floored him: financial support from his boss, President Barack Obama.

In the never been told before story, Biden recalled how concerned Obama had been.

Describing in an interview with CNN chief political analyst Gloria Borger one of his weekly lunches with Obama, Biden said he told the President he was worried about caring for Beau’s family without his son’s salary.

“I said, ‘But I worked it out.’” Biden recalled telling Obama. “I said, ‘But – Jill and I will sell the house and be in good shape.’”

Obama, Biden remembered, pushed back vehemently on the thought of Biden and his wife selling their home in Wilmington, Delaware.

 “He got up and he said, ‘Don’t sell that house. Promise me you won’t sell the house,’” Biden continued, speculating Obama would be “mad” he was retelling the story.

“He said, ‘I’ll give you the money. Whatever you need, I’ll give you the money. Don’t, Joe – promise me. Promise me.’ I said, ‘I don’t think we’re going to have to anyway.’ He said, ‘promise me,’” Biden recalled.

________________________ ________________________ ____

While still serving as vice president, his net worth was $2.5 million, but in the years between holding political office his net worth shot up to $8 million, according to Forbes. Celebrity Net Worth pegs Biden's estimated net worth at $9 million.


So where did all this extra money come from ??
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Gym Rat on June 15, 2023, 08:53:04 AM
Ghey Barry, one of the biggest scammers in US history said:"Fuck selling your house, scam the people like I do so well"

Then, brainless Beau Biden shit the bed anyways (like his corrupt retarded father who will be dead soon)..

LOL

Fucking scum, half his family is dead.. Bad omen... Bad things happen to bad people, Black Juju...
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Princess L on June 15, 2023, 09:18:28 AM

So where did all this extra money come from ??

Good question.  Inquiring minds want to know.  Perhaps one of our resident Biden nuthuggers can shed some light.
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 15, 2023, 10:32:29 AM
It would be a huge controversy and Biden should be arrested if it was true.  No one should be above the law...not even the president.



BTW, Where are the recordings and where is the money.   ::) ::)   
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 15, 2023, 10:39:03 AM
Vice-President Joe Biden said he considered selling his home to help support his dying son’s family.
Obama offered to help Biden, who earns $230,000 annually.
Joe and Jill Biden reported an adjusted gross income of $388,844 on their 2014 tax return.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/11/politics/joe-biden-barack-obama-financial-help/index.html

Tue January 12, 2016
Washington CNN  —

As his eldest son faced the prospect of resigning as Delaware’s attorney general amid health concerns, Vice President Joe Biden received an offer that floored him: financial support from his boss, President Barack Obama.

In the never been told before story, Biden recalled how concerned Obama had been.

Describing in an interview with CNN chief political analyst Gloria Borger one of his weekly lunches with Obama, Biden said he told the President he was worried about caring for Beau’s family without his son’s salary.

“I said, ‘But I worked it out.’” Biden recalled telling Obama. “I said, ‘But – Jill and I will sell the house and be in good shape.’”

Obama, Biden remembered, pushed back vehemently on the thought of Biden and his wife selling their home in Wilmington, Delaware.

 “He got up and he said, ‘Don’t sell that house. Promise me you won’t sell the house,’” Biden continued, speculating Obama would be “mad” he was retelling the story.

“He said, ‘I’ll give you the money. Whatever you need, I’ll give you the money. Don’t, Joe – promise me. Promise me.’ I said, ‘I don’t think we’re going to have to anyway.’ He said, ‘promise me,’” Biden recalled.

________________________ ________________________ ____

While still serving as vice president, his net worth was $2.5 million, but in the years between holding political office his net worth shot up to $8 million, according to Forbes. Celebrity Net Worth pegs Biden's estimated net worth at $9 million.


Net worth means nothing.  I had an accountant think that my net worth was around 1.8 million based upon the value of my websites, my cash on hand and 401k and stocks.  He used some formula in multiplying my annual profit for my sites times 20...real goofy shit.   But I live in a singlewide mobile home and drive 2 old cars.   

So don't buy any of that Celebrity Net Worth bullshit
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 15, 2023, 12:37:33 PM
It would be a huge controversy and Biden should be arrested if it was true.  No one should be above the law...not even the president.



BTW, Where are the recordings and where is the money.   ::) ::)

The recordings I agree - they should be released.

The money has been established - all the family members were wired monies through 22 LLC - including the grand kids, etc   That part has already been established. 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: The Gov on June 15, 2023, 01:05:31 PM
The recordings I agree - they should be released.

The money has been established - all the family members were wired monies through 22 LLC - including the grand kids, etc   That part has already been established.

Funny that you have to explain to him that family got the money, talk about someone so ignorant but has a strong opinion.
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: illuminati on June 15, 2023, 01:11:50 PM
Good question.  Inquiring minds want to know.  Perhaps one of our resident Biden nuthuggers can shed some light.

Yes you'd think they'd know how ??

No doubt WOOF WOOF the POOF POOF
with his Pavlov's dog syndrome will post ASAP
seeing as I have  :D ;D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 15, 2023, 01:58:16 PM
::)

Note the dates:

On August 8, 2022, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) executed a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, the residence of former U.S. president Donald Trump

Appointed by Attorney General Merrick Garland, Smith was tasked in November (2022) to look into whether Trump or his aides committed crimes by taking classified documents to his Mar-a-Lago resort.

The United States House Oversight Committee investigation into the Biden family is an ongoing investigation by the United States House of Representatives into US President Joe Biden's alleged "involvement in his family's foreign business practices and international influence peddling schemes". The investigation was initiated on January 11, 2023, by Republican committee chairman James Comer and includes examination of the foreign business activities of Biden's son, Hunter, and brother, James. The committee is also investigating Twitter's involvement in the Hunter Biden laptop controversy. By May 2023 the investigation had found no evidence of wrongdoing by President Biden.

Your timeline is wrong.  The indictment dropped at the same time that the "bombshell" news broke about Biden taking bribes. 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 15, 2023, 02:01:46 PM
With Trump, I waited until the indictment came out to talk about it. Seems rational to me.
With Biden, I will wait for the indictment to come out. Seems rational to me.

We CAN talk amongst ourselves all day long about innuendo, accusations, anonymous tips.. but at the end of the day.. it would just be a waste of time.
When the proof/evidence/indictment is provided on Biden, you'll hear from me. That sound reasonable?

No, it doesn't sound reasonable.  Particularly when you look at the actual facts, including the obvious contortion of legal theories, partisanship, unequal treatment, etc. 

Let me ask you this:  Do you assume Hillary Clinton did nothing because she was never indicted?  Does it trouble you at all that she deleted over 30,000 emails with BleachBit and had her staff destroy cell phones with hammers, after they were subpoenaed?  What innocent person does that??
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 15, 2023, 02:02:38 PM
Vice-President Joe Biden said he considered selling his home to help support his dying son’s family.
Obama offered to help Biden, who earns $230,000 annually.
Joe and Jill Biden reported an adjusted gross income of $388,844 on their 2014 tax return.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/11/politics/joe-biden-barack-obama-financial-help/index.html

Tue January 12, 2016
Washington CNN  —

As his eldest son faced the prospect of resigning as Delaware’s attorney general amid health concerns, Vice President Joe Biden received an offer that floored him: financial support from his boss, President Barack Obama.

In the never been told before story, Biden recalled how concerned Obama had been.

Describing in an interview with CNN chief political analyst Gloria Borger one of his weekly lunches with Obama, Biden said he told the President he was worried about caring for Beau’s family without his son’s salary.

“I said, ‘But I worked it out.’” Biden recalled telling Obama. “I said, ‘But – Jill and I will sell the house and be in good shape.’”

Obama, Biden remembered, pushed back vehemently on the thought of Biden and his wife selling their home in Wilmington, Delaware.

 “He got up and he said, ‘Don’t sell that house. Promise me you won’t sell the house,’” Biden continued, speculating Obama would be “mad” he was retelling the story.

“He said, ‘I’ll give you the money. Whatever you need, I’ll give you the money. Don’t, Joe – promise me. Promise me.’ I said, ‘I don’t think we’re going to have to anyway.’ He said, ‘promise me,’” Biden recalled.

________________________ ________________________ ____

While still serving as vice president, his net worth was $2.5 million, but in the years between holding political office his net worth shot up to $8 million, according to Forbes. Celebrity Net Worth pegs Biden's estimated net worth at $9 million.

Importantly, what product or service did Biden provide to justify or earn the millions he received?
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 15, 2023, 02:04:34 PM

Net worth means nothing.  I had an accountant think that my net worth was around 1.8 million based upon the value of my websites, my cash on hand and 401k and stocks.  He used some formula in multiplying my annual profit for my sites times 20...real goofy shit.   But I live in a singlewide mobile home and drive 2 old cars.   

So don't buy any of that Celebrity Net Worth bullshit

Actually net worth means a lot.  It's how you determine wealth.  It's income that is much less important.  Did you know that the majority of American millionaires never earned a six figure salary? 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 15, 2023, 02:05:23 PM
The recordings I agree - they should be released.

The money has been established - all the family members were wired monies through 22 LLC - including the grand kids, etc   That part has already been established.


No the fuck it hasn't.   There's no report on the names of these LLC companies, no transactions, etc.   Of course, I suppose it could be covered up but you can't release tapes if they never existed.   There are now Republicans admitting that the whole thing can be made up
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 15, 2023, 02:10:47 PM
Actually net worth means a lot.  It's how you determine wealth.  It's income that is much less important.  Did you know that the majority of American millionaires never earned a six figure salary?

Well, maybe my accountant wasn't bullshitting but I still think its overrated.   Besides, I'd never sell my businesses...brings in too much money a year and most of my websites are over 20 years old.  That's what I've been living on since I left Verizon
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 15, 2023, 02:23:34 PM
I don’t expect you to answer either. Just assume or exaggerate or deflect.  Just like you always do.

Again you have no proof of this. It’s just an excuse or a “distraction” of whataboutism because Trumpy got that indictment stuck up his ass.  Which is as far from a distraction as you can get.

"The Biden family and its business associates created a complicated web of more than 20 companies, according to bank records obtained by the House Oversight Committee — a system, GOP lawmakers say, that was meant to conceal money received from foreign nationals.

Sixteen of the companies were limited liability companies formed during Joe Biden’s tenure as vice president, the committee said in a press conference on Wednesday. The Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received more than $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies, the records show. These payments occurred both while Biden was in office as vice president and after his time in office ended."

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/bidens-used-web-of-shell-companies-to-conceal-foreign-cash-bank-records-obtained-by-house-gop-reveal/

What is the innocent explanation for this?

Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 15, 2023, 02:24:25 PM

No the fuck it hasn't.   There's no report on the names of these LLC companies, no transactions, etc.   Of course, I suppose it could be covered up but you can't release tapes if they never existed.   There are now Republicans admitting that the whole thing can be made up

"The Biden family and its business associates created a complicated web of more than 20 companies, according to bank records obtained by the House Oversight Committee — a system, GOP lawmakers say, that was meant to conceal money received from foreign nationals.

Sixteen of the companies were limited liability companies formed during Joe Biden’s tenure as vice president, the committee said in a press conference on Wednesday. The Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received more than $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies, the records show. These payments occurred both while Biden was in office as vice president and after his time in office ended."

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/bidens-used-web-of-shell-companies-to-conceal-foreign-cash-bank-records-obtained-by-house-gop-reveal/
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 15, 2023, 02:42:16 PM
It would be a huge controversy and Biden should be arrested if it was true.  No one should be above the law...not even the president.

BTW, Where are the recordings and where is the money.   ::) ::)

This is like someone who committed fraud saying "prove it," when the whole nature of fraud is to do something bad and cover it up. 

The FBI apparently has the recordings.  Did you know they have a document with a reliable informant saying he has 17 recordings?  When the FBI finally let some Congressional Republicans see the document, after being threatened with contempt, the FBI redacted the part about the recordings.  Senator Grassley just saw the unredacted document.  He spoke about it on the Senate floor. 

This stinks to high heaven. 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 15, 2023, 02:43:44 PM
Well, maybe my accountant wasn't bullshitting but I still think its overrated.   Besides, I'd never sell my businesses...brings in too much money a year and most of my websites are over 20 years old.  That's what I've been living on since I left Verizon

It actually sounds like you are living below your means, which is what the majority of American millionaires do. 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 15, 2023, 08:14:41 PM
This is like someone who committed fraud saying "prove it," when the whole nature of fraud is to do something bad and cover it up. 

The FBI apparently has the recordings.  Did you know they have a document with a reliable informant saying he has 17 recordings?  When the FBI finally let some Congressional Republicans see the document, after being threatened with contempt, the FBI redacted the part about the recordings.  Senator Grassley just saw the unredacted document.  He spoke about it on the Senate floor. 

This stinks to high heaven.

When Senator Grassley was asked point blank was there anything in the report that was potentially criminal what did he say? You guys are falling for the oldest trick in the book. Same exact thing happened after the election where Trump and his mouthpieces went on and on about all the evidence they had to prove the election was stolen... stood infront of dozens of TV cameras and mics spouting how all this would blow up when it got to court. You know what happened then.. when will you catch on?
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 15, 2023, 11:29:40 PM
When Senator Grassley was asked point blank was there anything in the report that was potentially criminal what did he say? You guys are falling for the oldest trick in the book. Same exact thing happened after the election where Trump and his mouthpieces went on and on about all the evidence they had to prove the election was stolen... stood infront of dozens of TV cameras and mics spouting how all this would blow up when it got to court. You know what happened then.. when will you catch on?

You are ignoring the fact this involves a reliable confidential informant, that the FBI first withheld then tried to redact the document, that is consistent with the millions of dollars the Biden family received from foreign adversaries.  You cannot address the merits of this stuff, because it's too damning.  You should be asking what the FBI did to investigate this.  But you obviously don't care, because it involves your guy. 

What is the innocent explanation for the Biden family receiving millions of dollars funneled through about 20 limited liability companies? 
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 16, 2023, 01:31:13 AM
"The Biden family and its business associates created a complicated web of more than 20 companies, according to bank records obtained by the House Oversight Committee — a system, GOP lawmakers say, that was meant to conceal money received from foreign nationals.

Sixteen of the companies were limited liability companies formed during Joe Biden’s tenure as vice president, the committee said in a press conference on Wednesday. The Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received more than $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies, the records show. These payments occurred both while Biden was in office as vice president and after his time in office ended."
 
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/bidens-used-web-of-shell-companies-to-conceal-foreign-cash-bank-records-obtained-by-house-gop-reveal/

What is the innocent explanation for this?

“GOP lawmakers say…..”

Are these the same ones that said the election was stolen?

Got anything a bit more factual?  Maybe it’s charity donations.  :D
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 16, 2023, 01:33:30 AM
You are ignoring the fact this involves a reliable confidential informant, that the FBI first withheld then tried to redact the document, that is consistent with the millions of dollars the Biden family received from foreign adversaries.  You cannot address the merits of this stuff, because it's too damning.  You should be asking what the FBI did to investigate this.  But you obviously don't care, because it involves your guy. 

What is the innocent explanation for the Biden family receiving millions of dollars funneled through about 20 limited liability companies?

Why don’t you spearhead an investigation and find out?   
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2023, 08:07:48 AM
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2023, 02:50:31 PM
With Trump, I waited until the indictment came out to talk about it. Seems rational to me.
With Biden, I will wait for the indictment to come out. Seems rational to me.

We CAN talk amongst ourselves all day long about innuendo, accusations, anonymous tips.. but at the end of the day.. it would just be a waste of time.
When the proof/evidence/indictment is provided on Biden, you'll hear from me. That sound reasonable?

Yes reasonable, but frankly not much fun. Getbiggers love speculating. It is their lifeblood.   
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 16, 2023, 08:11:43 PM
Yes reasonable, but frankly not much fun. Getbiggers love speculating. It is their lifeblood.

Truer words were never posted
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2023, 11:52:38 PM
Why don’t you spearhead an investigation and find out?

 ::)
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 17, 2023, 12:23:17 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/hunter-biden-associate-devon-archer-cooperating-republican-lawmakers/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=hunter-biden-associate-devon-archer-cooperating-republican-lawmakers&fbclid=PAAaYNDXUK4oC1ViUDEop9e80pCo1ROpm0D2tCd4ish_oH2HJy4AImkEl9m-w_aem_th_AQ0j6DQYvXbHhCEb9gVq18FGSP3gCpKmFY9MYvlqO08rmLy6WEHrzbwe8iuHyt_kP7A
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 17, 2023, 12:25:18 AM
::)

Not wasting your time either huh?
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 17, 2023, 06:31:59 AM
It actually sounds like you are living below your means, which is what the majority of American millionaires do.

Oh yea....still want to get back a relations job
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Gym Rat on June 18, 2023, 12:10:26 PM
Total corruption, hang 'em high!!!

Ant-US traitors, putting the country in danger, CCP and Ukraine first...  ::) ::)

Shitter, and crack-Hunter, both child rapists...
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Primemuscle on June 18, 2023, 03:46:15 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/hunter-biden-associate-devon-archer-cooperating-republican-lawmakers/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=hunter-biden-associate-devon-archer-cooperating-republican-lawmakers&fbclid=PAAaYNDXUK4oC1ViUDEop9e80pCo1ROpm0D2tCd4ish_oH2HJy4AImkEl9m-w_aem_th_AQ0j6DQYvXbHhCEb9gVq18FGSP3gCpKmFY9MYvlqO08rmLy6WEHrzbwe8iuHyt_kP7A

Coach, are you still reading The Gateway Pundit and believing the articles in it are true? Jesh! You are even dumber and more gullible than I thought you were.
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: illuminati on June 18, 2023, 03:51:58 PM
Coach, are you still reading The Gateway Pundit and believing the articles in it are true? Jesh! You are even dumber and more gullible than I thought you were.




God Save The Queen  🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂  🤡 What Fucking Idiotic Shambles he is.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂  You got to Laugh at this level not with it . 😄
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Primemuscle on June 18, 2023, 04:21:06 PM



God Save The Queen  🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂  🤡 What Fucking Idiotic Shambles he is.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂  You got to Laugh at this level not with it . 😄

Focus man, focus. Stay on topic.  ;)
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 18, 2023, 04:43:38 PM
Coach, are you still reading The Gateway Pundit and believing the articles in it are true? Jesh! You are even dumber and more gullible than I thought you were.

You had to ask?
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: illuminati on June 18, 2023, 05:56:08 PM
Focus man, focus. Stay on topic.  ;)

Ha ha , I can't with this Clown coming out with such things

Remember,  Americans God Save The Queen 😄🤣😄🤣😄

🤡 that he is.
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Primemuscle on June 18, 2023, 07:09:20 PM
Ha ha , I can't with this Clown coming out with such things

Remember,  Americans God Save The Queen 😄🤣😄🤣😄

🤡 that he is.

Isn't that God save the King at this point?
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 18, 2023, 08:41:43 PM
Coach, are you still reading The Gateway Pundit and believing the articles in it are true? Jesh! You are even dumber and more gullible than I thought you were.

Yeah, I am. Feel free to debunk it. The next time you want to challenge me make sure you at least read the article…

Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: illuminati on June 18, 2023, 10:10:12 PM
Isn't that God save the King at this point?


Stupid Joe couldn't even get that right  ::)
Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 20, 2023, 07:12:06 PM
Interesting that no one seems to want to say the recordings actually exist.

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‘Maybe they don’t exist’: Republicans question legitimacy of alleged audio recordings of Biden bribery scheme

 Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa claimed on the Senate floor earlier this week that the foreign national who allegedly bribed then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter has 17 audio recordings of their conversations but questioned whether those tapes even existed in an interview with CNN days later.

“I don’t even know where they are. I just know they exist, because of what the report says. Now, maybe they don’t exist. But how will I know until the FBI tells us, are they showing us their work?” Grassley said Thursday.

And Grassley is not the only Republican questioning the validity of the supposed tapes.

 House Oversight Chairman James Comer of Kentucky, who is overseeing the GOP investigation into the Biden family business dealings and has been quick to make the alleged bribery scheme a focus of his work, admitted to not knowing whether the tapes were legitimate.

“We don’t know if they’re legit or not, but we know that the foreign national claims he has them,” Comer said of the alleged recordings during a Tuesday interview on Newsmax.

House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan, who also serves on the Oversight panel and has made the Department of Justice and FBI a target of his investigative efforts, told CNN of the tapes, “I have no reason to doubt anything Senator Grassley says, but I don’t know if they exist or not.”

And Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, who led his own investigation into the Biden family in 2020 and has long peddled the notion of wrongdoing, said in a separate Newsmax interview, “I’m not even aware that we verified those recordings exist.”

The tapes are the latest unverified allegations Republicans have raised as they’ve launched investigations into the Biden family’s business dealings as well as the work of the FBI. While Republicans have used their subpoena power to go after the Biden family’s foreign business dealings, they have still not established a direct link to President Biden.

Grassley first raised the existence of audio recordings after the FBI document that memorializes these allegations redacted them in the version shown to House Oversight Committee members.

Prior to the full committee viewing the redacted document, Comer and the top Democrat on the panel, Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland, had viewed a version of the document that included mention of the recordings, according to two sources familiar with their briefing.

In a statement to CNN the chairman said, “The FBI’s Biden bribery record contains several investigative leads, but it is unclear what, if anything, the FBI has done to verify these allegations.”

The FBI document at the heart of this debate, known as an FD-1023, summarizes multiple conversations a trusted FBI informant had with a foreign national alleging that an executive with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma offered both Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden bribes of $5 million.

Former Attorney General Bill Barr, who was appointed by former President Donald Trump to serve during his administration, said when these bribery allegations came to light he tapped Pittsburgh US Attorney Scott Brady to look into the 1023 form and other claims. Barr has described this effort as a “screening, clearing house function” and said once the information was checked out the allegations were passed on to Delaware US Attorney David Weiss, who is overseeing an ongoing criminal investigation into Hunter Biden. Investigators were unable to corroborate the claims in the 1023.

“That information was checked out, and it was determined that it was not likely to have been disinformation. It doesn’t say whether it’s true or not, but there was no sign there was disinformation. And so it was provided to the ongoing investigation in Delaware to follow up on and check out,” Barr said on Fox last week.

Acting assistant director for the FBI’s office of congressional affairs Christopher Dunham has explained in previous correspondence with Congress that an FD-1023 form is “used by FBI agents to record unverified reporting from a confidential human source,” and noted that there are strict Justice Department guidelines about when that information can be provided outside of the FBI.

Comer subpoenaed the document last month, and House Republicans have railed against the FBI for continuing to keep an unclassified document under close hold.

“Congress still lacks a full and complete picture with respect to what that document really says. That’s why it’s important that the document be made public without unnecessary redactions for the American people to see,” Grassley said on the floor earlier this week.

House Republicans were poised to hold FBI Director Christopher Wray in contempt of Congress earlier this month for his refusal to turn over the document, but a last-minute deal between Comer and Wray that included allowing the full committee to view the form halted the contempt proceedings. They are still publicly clamoring for the FBI to provide more detail about what steps were taken to investigate the claims in the document.

Democrats meanwhile continue to dismiss the allegations. The White House continues to frame Republicans’ investigative efforts as politically motivated. White House spokesman Ian Sams said in a statement to CNN, “Everything in their so-called investigation seems to be mysteriously missing: informants, audio tapes, and most importantly of all – any credible evidence.”

Raskin, who has painted the allegations as secondhand, told CNN, “It was thoroughly checked out by the Trump Justice Department, and they couldn’t find anything there. And if anybody would have an incentive to find something there it would have been the Trump Justice Department.”

Another Democrat on the panel, Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida, accused Republicans of having alternative motives for surfacing the allegations in the first place.

“What they’re trying to do is they’re trying to muddy the water because Trump is in so much trouble. They got to distract from that and pretend like, you know Joe Biden, which they say he’s sleepy and boring, is now somehow Tony Soprano,” he said.

But Republicans who viewed the version of the FD-1023 form that redacted mention of the audio recordings are continuing to raise questions.

One of those members, GOP Rep. Russell Fry of South Carolina, told CNN, “My assumption was that if they were going to redact things in that document that it would have been names and places and not actual corroborating evidence. So I think it’s unfortunate that the FBI decided to do that. And I look forward to seeing hopefully an unredacted copy of that 1023.”
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Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Primemuscle on June 20, 2023, 07:44:30 PM
Yeah, I am. Feel free to debunk it. The next time you want to challenge me make sure you at least read the article…
My apologies. Coach. I cannot debunk what didn't happen.

In this case, not surprisingly, The Gateway Pundit's headline appears to be both inaccurate and a premature overstatement. Is he cooperating? Not so much! ;D

What power does the Oversight Committee have? Not much!

Well, it certainly looks like at some point Devon Archer will have to testify because he was subpoenaed. Testifying does not always mean cooperating and it doesn't appear he is doing this, at least not willingly. And then there's the problem with the Oversight Committee losing witnesses when push comes to shove. 

"Hunter Biden business partner and fellow Burisma board member Devon Archer will not meet the initial subpoena deadline of Friday to appear before Congress, but Republicans believe he'll soon sit down for questioning.

Rep. James Comer (R-KY), the House Oversight Committee chairman, had issued a subpoena on Monday for Archer to appear for a transcribed interview on Friday as part of the panel's ongoing investigation into Biden family finances. Comer's subpoena letter said the committee “has identified Mr. Archer as possessing information relevant to its investigation."

I could be wrong but, it seems as if James Comer is little more than a blowhard and windbag. His and the Oversight Committee's investigation appears to be a flop. Time will tell.  ;)

Title: Re: Burisma executive who paid Biden has 17 recordings of convos with Joe and Hunter
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 20, 2023, 08:17:07 PM
Interesting that no one seems to want to say the recordings actually exist.

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‘Maybe they don’t exist’: Republicans question legitimacy of alleged audio recordings of Biden bribery scheme

 Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa claimed on the Senate floor earlier this week that the foreign national who allegedly bribed then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter has 17 audio recordings of their conversations but questioned whether those tapes even existed in an interview with CNN days later.

“I don’t even know where they are. I just know they exist, because of what the report says. Now, maybe they don’t exist. But how will I know until the FBI tells us, are they showing us their work?” Grassley said Thursday.

And Grassley is not the only Republican questioning the validity of the supposed tapes.

 House Oversight Chairman James Comer of Kentucky, who is overseeing the GOP investigation into the Biden family business dealings and has been quick to make the alleged bribery scheme a focus of his work, admitted to not knowing whether the tapes were legitimate.

“We don’t know if they’re legit or not, but we know that the foreign national claims he has them,” Comer said of the alleged recordings during a Tuesday interview on Newsmax.

House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan, who also serves on the Oversight panel and has made the Department of Justice and FBI a target of his investigative efforts, told CNN of the tapes, “I have no reason to doubt anything Senator Grassley says, but I don’t know if they exist or not.”

And Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, who led his own investigation into the Biden family in 2020 and has long peddled the notion of wrongdoing, said in a separate Newsmax interview, “I’m not even aware that we verified those recordings exist.”

The tapes are the latest unverified allegations Republicans have raised as they’ve launched investigations into the Biden family’s business dealings as well as the work of the FBI. While Republicans have used their subpoena power to go after the Biden family’s foreign business dealings, they have still not established a direct link to President Biden.

Grassley first raised the existence of audio recordings after the FBI document that memorializes these allegations redacted them in the version shown to House Oversight Committee members.

Prior to the full committee viewing the redacted document, Comer and the top Democrat on the panel, Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland, had viewed a version of the document that included mention of the recordings, according to two sources familiar with their briefing.

In a statement to CNN the chairman said, “The FBI’s Biden bribery record contains several investigative leads, but it is unclear what, if anything, the FBI has done to verify these allegations.”

The FBI document at the heart of this debate, known as an FD-1023, summarizes multiple conversations a trusted FBI informant had with a foreign national alleging that an executive with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma offered both Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden bribes of $5 million.

Former Attorney General Bill Barr, who was appointed by former President Donald Trump to serve during his administration, said when these bribery allegations came to light he tapped Pittsburgh US Attorney Scott Brady to look into the 1023 form and other claims. Barr has described this effort as a “screening, clearing house function” and said once the information was checked out the allegations were passed on to Delaware US Attorney David Weiss, who is overseeing an ongoing criminal investigation into Hunter Biden. Investigators were unable to corroborate the claims in the 1023.

“That information was checked out, and it was determined that it was not likely to have been disinformation. It doesn’t say whether it’s true or not, but there was no sign there was disinformation. And so it was provided to the ongoing investigation in Delaware to follow up on and check out,” Barr said on Fox last week.

Acting assistant director for the FBI’s office of congressional affairs Christopher Dunham has explained in previous correspondence with Congress that an FD-1023 form is “used by FBI agents to record unverified reporting from a confidential human source,” and noted that there are strict Justice Department guidelines about when that information can be provided outside of the FBI.

Comer subpoenaed the document last month, and House Republicans have railed against the FBI for continuing to keep an unclassified document under close hold.

“Congress still lacks a full and complete picture with respect to what that document really says. That’s why it’s important that the document be made public without unnecessary redactions for the American people to see,” Grassley said on the floor earlier this week.

House Republicans were poised to hold FBI Director Christopher Wray in contempt of Congress earlier this month for his refusal to turn over the document, but a last-minute deal between Comer and Wray that included allowing the full committee to view the form halted the contempt proceedings. They are still publicly clamoring for the FBI to provide more detail about what steps were taken to investigate the claims in the document.

Democrats meanwhile continue to dismiss the allegations. The White House continues to frame Republicans’ investigative efforts as politically motivated. White House spokesman Ian Sams said in a statement to CNN, “Everything in their so-called investigation seems to be mysteriously missing: informants, audio tapes, and most importantly of all – any credible evidence.”

Raskin, who has painted the allegations as secondhand, told CNN, “It was thoroughly checked out by the Trump Justice Department, and they couldn’t find anything there. And if anybody would have an incentive to find something there it would have been the Trump Justice Department.”

Another Democrat on the panel, Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida, accused Republicans of having alternative motives for surfacing the allegations in the first place.

“What they’re trying to do is they’re trying to muddy the water because Trump is in so much trouble. They got to distract from that and pretend like, you know Joe Biden, which they say he’s sleepy and boring, is now somehow Tony Soprano,” he said.

But Republicans who viewed the version of the FD-1023 form that redacted mention of the audio recordings are continuing to raise questions.

One of those members, GOP Rep. Russell Fry of South Carolina, told CNN, “My assumption was that if they were going to redact things in that document that it would have been names and places and not actual corroborating evidence. So I think it’s unfortunate that the FBI decided to do that. And I look forward to seeing hopefully an unredacted copy of that 1023.”
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that is a lot of text to say what I've told him more than once. Republicans are really famous for making claims.. not so good and backing them up. Grassley was certainly coy when asked point blank.. He didn't like that.. he likes to make broad statement's and what if's... but he SAW the FBI report... and when asked... was evasive. Tells me everything I need to know. Takes others a bit longer.