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Title: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Sandrock on July 13, 2023, 01:56:02 PM
There's been a lot of ridiculous lies told by bodybuilders over the years.  The first one that comes to mind is Vic Richards claiming he was eating "30,000 calories" a day of "greasy nigerian food".  Jesus fucking christ he would have to be sitting on a toilet all day long constantly blowing grease out of his ass as he was eating for that to even be a remote possibility.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: 38 returns on July 13, 2023, 01:58:47 PM
Brian Hankins 15,000 school fights
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: joswift on July 13, 2023, 02:06:56 PM
There's been a lot of ridiculous lies told by bodybuilders over the years.  The first one that comes to mind is Vic Richards claiming he was eating "30,000 calories" a day of "greasy nigerian food".  Jesus fucking christ he would have to be sitting on a toilet all day long constantly blowing grease out of his ass as he was eating for that to even be a remote possibility.
nah , he claimed clean, about 2lbs of uncooked weight of rice a day

I added up what he claimed to eat and it only came to 16k, a lot if true but not 30k
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: IroNat on July 13, 2023, 02:42:10 PM
Ronny C. won the Universe natty.

Arnold only used steroids a little.

Joe Weider about anything.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: tatoo on July 13, 2023, 03:07:28 PM
big louie
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: beakdoctor on July 13, 2023, 03:13:06 PM
0.0 percent bodyfat

Ninjas

The Colorado experiment

Joe weiders head on Robbies bust

Joe's marriage to Betty the beard

The whole history of the sport.

Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Sandrock on July 13, 2023, 03:15:24 PM
Christ how did I not lead off with Flex vs. the ninjas?!?!?!  That has to be number one.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 13, 2023, 03:20:00 PM
Mike O'hearn



WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: 38 returns on July 13, 2023, 03:26:04 PM
SCOTT CHINERY AND THE CYBERGENICS SCAM

Bill Phillips and the dbol/creatine..... hmb/deca thing


weight gainers

prima sorb

mumie

smilax

beta-sitersterol

gamma-oryzanol

frac

orchic
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: IroNat on July 13, 2023, 03:32:39 PM
Rheo Blair's protein powder

Mentzer is a genius and studying to be a physician.

Reg Park was natty after 1950.

Chuck Sipes was natty.

You can develop a bicep peak if you weren't born with one.

Isometrics made York lifters better.

Dr. Ziegler invented D-bol.

Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 13, 2023, 03:37:26 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Dave D on July 13, 2023, 03:41:47 PM
If this sport  is so unhealthy show me the bodies!
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Sandrock on July 13, 2023, 03:43:52 PM
I remember Vic making the 30,000 calories claim then walking it back to "only" 8-12K calories.  Anyone else remember it that way?
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 13, 2023, 03:45:19 PM
The Weider Research Institute.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Bevo on July 13, 2023, 03:56:35 PM
Drugs are the finishing touch
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Dokey111 on July 13, 2023, 04:07:51 PM
Christ how did I not lead off with Flex vs. the ninjas?!?!?!  That has to be number one.

I think Ninjas is just what black people call n's
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Sandrock on July 13, 2023, 04:13:03 PM
I think Ninjas is just what black people call n's

Flex definitely said "asian men".  I'm pretty sure he even claimed that one the attackers had freakin nunchucks.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Dokey111 on July 13, 2023, 04:13:49 PM
Flex definitely said "asian men".  I'm pretty sure he even claimed that one the attackers had freakin nunchucks.

oh
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: BB on July 13, 2023, 04:19:28 PM
I remember Vic making the 30,000 calories claim then walking it back to "only" 8-12K calories.  Anyone else remember it that way?

Yes. I remember the 30,000 number discussed in both Zulak's column in MMI, and in MM2k. The number would float around, I remember 30,000, 24,000, some in the mid teens, etc..... It became a joke for a while - "What's Richards' going to claim this month?".
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: OAK on July 13, 2023, 04:20:24 PM
If this sport  is so unhealthy show me the bodies!

Genuine LOL!

😆
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Flexacon on July 13, 2023, 04:23:43 PM
Not the biggest bullshitter, but Jay Cutlers way of adding obviously made up details to everything he says to make himself more interesting is starting to grate on me.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: OAK on July 13, 2023, 05:15:15 PM
Every Flex Magazine “training tip” was a lie.

🙄
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: a_pupil on July 13, 2023, 05:17:44 PM
Dante Trudell the fat mess becoming a bodybuilding guru  :P
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: mops on July 13, 2023, 06:00:26 PM
Not the biggest since it was a lame trolling attempt : Pete Grymkowski's 10g of test per day cycle
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Sandrock on July 13, 2023, 07:20:49 PM
Yes. I remember the 30,000 number discussed in both Zulak's column in MMI, and in MM2k. The number would float around, I remember 30,000, 24,000, some in the mid teens, etc..... It became a joke for a while - "What's Richards' going to claim this month?".

I'm very glad someone else remembers that 30,000 number.  Vic Richard's asshole must be even more blown out than hanky's.

I thought of another one: Gregg Valentino claiming he never used synthol. 
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: OAK on July 13, 2023, 07:29:43 PM
This man’s triceps.

🙄

Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: jude2 on July 13, 2023, 07:30:46 PM
Remember when Max Charles claimed he can preacher curl 350 pounds and only ate rice and beans. ::)
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: michael arvilla on July 13, 2023, 07:42:29 PM
:)
Spent a day / most of the night with Vic (no homo) he ate a (this was takeout because the gym owner had to buy all the food ) two chicken breasts with a couple cups of rice every 2 hours on the dot! (He was doing a seminar at a gym in Lynn Massachusetts) then going to the club where I bounced (the Palace in Saugus mass) I don't know how many calories it was ... but there were a shit ton of white styrofoam containers with the chicken and rice .... brought some to the club also ... ate on the clock every 2 hours....so he eats a lot of calories! 
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Bevo on July 13, 2023, 07:52:08 PM
Spent a day / most of the night with Vic (no homo) he ate a (this was takeout because the gym owner had to buy all the food ) two chicken breasts with a couple cups of rice every 2 hours on the dot! (He was doing a seminar at a gym in Lynn Massachusetts) then going to the club where I bounced (the Palace in Saugus mass) I don't know how many calories it was ... but there were a shit ton of white styrofoam containers with the chicken and rice .... brought some to the club also ... ate on the clock every 2 hours....so he eats a lot of calories!

And that my friend is why competitive bbing is filled with mental cases and a waste of time
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Never1AShow on July 13, 2023, 07:54:59 PM
Rheo Blair's protein powder

Mentzer is a genius and studying to be a physician.

Reg Park was natty after 1950.

Chuck Sipes was natty.

You can develop a bicep peak if you weren't born with one.

Isometrics made York lifters better.

Dr. Ziegler invented D-bol.

Have a friend who just tore his bicep, I told him to hold out hope that the peak is better after surgery.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: beakdoctor on July 13, 2023, 08:02:36 PM
IOGIYWITB.  Total bullshit.  IG even if YDWITB.

Valentinos arms were from steroid use. LOLOLOL.

Sally shooting Ray....... wait a minute thats actually true.

Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: mops on July 13, 2023, 08:21:41 PM
Kamali's plasmosis...
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: tommywishbone on July 13, 2023, 09:21:26 PM
Valentino’s claim is absurd beyond belief. I have friends that actually believed him.

Anything Weider said
Valentino
O’Hearn
Vic Richards
Mentzer
Wayne Demilia


Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Kwon on July 13, 2023, 10:48:15 PM
Flex definitely said "asian men".  I'm pretty sure he even claimed that one the attackers had freakin nunchucks.

Still wonder why the Yakuza would attack Kenneth Wheeler
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Sandrock on July 13, 2023, 11:02:07 PM
Still wonder why the Yakuza would attack Kenneth Wheeler

I'm pretty sure it was the Ninja Turtles that got him, due to him injecting mutagen synthol into his arms, delts, traps and calves.  I base this conclusion off of the chosen weapons of the attackers: nunchucks, katanas, sais, and a wooden stick/bo.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: kreator on July 13, 2023, 11:16:14 PM
That there CellTech
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: mops on July 13, 2023, 11:29:37 PM
Still wonder why the Yakuza would attack Kenneth Wheeler

When he told the story to his freemason buddies, they replied, "Oh ffs Kenny, you don't have a leg to stand on"

(https://i.postimg.cc/qBDpznvS/Screenshot-20230714-080231.jpg)
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 13, 2023, 11:32:11 PM
Those ads that showed the “scientists” in the labs wearing white coats and flip flops.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 13, 2023, 11:36:59 PM
Ray McNeils hair.

Anything Curly Top said.

Lee Priest saying Dillet and himself didn’t use much and once left a syringe of winstrol laying around for a week.

The nonstop “I gained XXX lbs of muscle” by the weirdo TC Luoma (sp?).  It would add up to be about 200 lbs in 18 months. Yet he was size of a coat hanger.  Also his “I might not be the biggest guy in the bar but I am the last one you want to mess with” claim that he would lead off his column/bio with.  ::)

Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Gym Rat on July 14, 2023, 01:00:15 AM
Bill Pearl only tried anabolics for a couple weeks, but stopped...
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 14, 2023, 03:32:18 AM
I'm only on TRT.  Yes, taking enough testosterone for twenty eight men or taking enough test to get their count up to 900.  They didn't have a count of 900 when they were 21.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on July 14, 2023, 03:36:32 AM
Kamali comes to mind. Generally delusional and I saw some photos of what he eats now. Quite bad food and so bland.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Royalty on July 14, 2023, 04:12:45 AM
There were top IFBB pro’s who were connected to Balco. FBI did investigations.

On Getbig, Milos directly asked Shawn Ray what he said exactly during his breakfast with the FBI agents


I can’t remember Shawn’s response, but it was probably up there with the Ninja Attack & 30,000 Calories
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: joswift on July 14, 2023, 04:46:35 AM
Ray McNeils hair.

Anything Curly Top said.

Lee Priest saying Dillet and himself didn’t use much and once left a syringe of winstrol laying around for a week.

The nonstop “I gained XXX lbs of muscle” by the weirdo TC Luoma (sp?).  It would add up to be about 200 lbs in 18 months. Yet he was size of a coat hanger.  Also his “I might not be the biggest guy in the bar but I am the last one you want to mess with” claim that he would lead off his column/bio with.  ::)

"hankins IS the biggest guy in the bar and still the one everyone messes with"
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Rambone on July 14, 2023, 05:25:18 AM
0.0 percent bodyfat

Ninjas

The Colorado experiment

Joe weiders head on Robbies bust

Joe's marriage to Betty the beard

The whole history of the sport.

Solid list, doc!
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: BB on July 14, 2023, 06:46:22 AM
I've grown to like O'hearn's lies, he gives you a little truth with the lie mixed in. For instance he did have a very good competition Powerlifting total in the mid 1700's, and won some things. But it was in a smaller fed, in one of the big ones, he'd be maybe a top 100 guy back then.

Also, he bragged on having a Martial Arts Lifetime Achievement award, and that's true, but it isn't for fighting, it's for humanitarian work -

(https://i.postimg.cc/W30Zgr4G/68297673-2010400139061730-5061862577470963712-n.jpg).

The humanitarian work? Stuff like this -

(https://i.postimg.cc/vTbdZRjr/hqdefault.jpg).

He visited those kids like once, and used the pics for a decade.

--------------------------------------

Another one I don't like from the Powerlifting world is that Bell invented the Slingshot? He only invented it because he patented it. The history of those things is more like this - Bench shirts were expensive $150-300, hard to get into, and prone to ripping. So guy's would take old ones and cut them down to get more use out of them. Guys like Chris Taylor cleaned up the design with his "Bench Strap", but he never gave them much though, it was just something he'd do for friends -

.

Bell came later.

 



Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: ROBOAK on July 14, 2023, 07:31:59 AM
I've grown to like O'hearn's lies, he gives you a little truth with the lie mixed in. For instance he did have a very good competition Powerlifting total in the mid 1700's, and won some things. But it was in a smaller fed, in one of the big ones, he'd be maybe a top 100 guy back then.

Also, he bragged on having a Martial Arts Lifetime Achievement award, and that's true, but it isn't for fighting, it's for humanitarian work -

(https://i.postimg.cc/W30Zgr4G/68297673-2010400139061730-5061862577470963712-n.jpg).

The humanitarian work? Stuff like this -

(https://i.postimg.cc/vTbdZRjr/hqdefault.jpg).

He visited those kids like once, and used the pics for a decade.

--------------------------------------

Another one I don't like from the Powerlifting world is that Bell invented the Slingshot? He only invented it because he patented it. The history of those things is more like this - Bench shirts were expensive $150-300, hard to get into, and prone to ripping. So guy's would take old ones and cut them down to get more use out of them. Guys like Chris Taylor cleaned up the design with his "Bench Strap", but he never gave them much though, it was just something he'd do for friends -

.

Bell came later.

mike o dell would dominate you on the battle wall , bitch!
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: njflex on July 14, 2023, 08:53:22 AM
Valentino’s claim is absurd beyond belief. I have friends that actually believed him.

Anything Weider said
Valentino
O’Hearn
Vic Richards
Mentzer
Wayne Demilia
great list...
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Hendrixian on July 14, 2023, 10:03:43 AM
Valentino claimed he never used synthol, but something else? I mean, his arms are full of some shit, but not necessarily synthol.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Rambone on July 14, 2023, 10:09:54 AM
Valentino’s claim is absurd beyond belief. I have friends that actually believed him.

Anything Weider said
Valentino
O’Hearn
Vic Richards
Mentzer
Wayne Demilia

Can you elaborate on Demilia? I enjoyed his Valuetainment interview
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: joswift on July 14, 2023, 02:27:52 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/vTbdZRjr/hqdefault.jpg)

I bet that kid could walk unaided at the start of that photo shoot
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: a_pupil on July 15, 2023, 05:28:54 PM
I've grown to like O'hearn's lies, he gives you a little truth with the lie mixed in. For instance he did have a very good competition Powerlifting total in the mid 1700's, and won some things. But it was in a smaller fed, in one of the big ones, he'd be maybe a top 100 guy back then.

Also, he bragged on having a Martial Arts Lifetime Achievement award, and that's true, but it isn't for fighting, it's for humanitarian work -

(https://i.postimg.cc/W30Zgr4G/68297673-2010400139061730-5061862577470963712-n.jpg).

The humanitarian work? Stuff like this -

(https://i.postimg.cc/vTbdZRjr/hqdefault.jpg).

He visited those kids like once, and used the pics for a decade.

--------------------------------------

Another one I don't like from the Powerlifting world is that Bell invented the Slingshot? He only invented it because he patented it. The history of those things is more like this - Bench shirts were expensive $150-300, hard to get into, and prone to ripping. So guy's would take old ones and cut them down to get more use out of them. Guys like Chris Taylor cleaned up the design with his "Bench Strap", but he never gave them much though, it was just something he'd do for friends -

.

Bell came later.

Got to give it to Mike.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Thebends on July 16, 2023, 11:49:40 AM
Isaac "Dr. Size" Nesser.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Gym Rat on July 16, 2023, 12:16:40 PM

Another one I don't like from the Powerlifting world is that Bell invented the Slingshot? He only invented it because he patented it. The history of those things is more like this - Bench shirts were expensive $150-300, hard to get into, and prone to ripping. So guy's would take old ones and cut them down to get more use out of them. Guys like Chris Taylor cleaned up the design with his "Bench Strap", but he never gave them much though, it was just something he'd do for friends -

.



Thx for the video, I tried to find that a while back, as a buddy didnt believe me about the Slingshot.
I remember seeing the video many years ago.

Bell is smart for trademark and patenting the thing, where Taylor "snoozed and losed"...

Bell is now a multi-millionaire from that darn thing..
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: MCWAY on July 16, 2023, 02:35:01 PM
I remember Vic making the 30,000 calories claim then walking it back to "only" 8-12K calories.  Anyone else remember it that way?

Richards claimed that MMI writer, Greg Zulak, misquoted him. Richards cited himself as saying that's the most he'd ever eaten in a single day, not that was 30K was his typical daily caloric consumption.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: MCWAY on July 16, 2023, 02:59:04 PM
Ronny C. won the Universe natty.

Arnold only used steroids a little.

Joe Weider about anything.

Define "a little". Today, people would claim the amount of anabolics Schwarzenegger used was a little. But, his predecessors (i.e. Vince Gironda, John Grimek, etc.) screamed that the Oak and his contemporaries were steroid abusers, taking a whole bunch of stuff.

As for Coleman, his contemporaries have backed his claims for decades. Guys like Levrone and Wheeler were amazed that Coleman wasn't using what they were, yet he was still hanging with them. Shawn Ray referred to the pre-Sandow Coleman as a "C-level" bodybuilder.

I've brought up this issue earlier on another thread. But, if pro cards were so hard to obtain in the late 80s/early 90s and drug tests are so easy to pass, why didn't more NPC journeymen tried to get to the Universe to turn pro?

I know that, from a media standpoint, winning the USA or the Nationals (or even the North American) got you more covers and more spots on shows like "American Muscle" than winning the IFBB Mr. Universe/World Amateur Championships did. But, if you'd been slogging in the NPCs for a while (i.e. Bob Chicherillo), why not simply "go off" for a while and try your hand at the U, especially when it came with an Olympia bid at the time?

Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Royalty on July 16, 2023, 03:25:28 PM
Richards claimed that MMI writer, Greg Zulak, misquoted him. Richards cited himself as saying that's the most he'd ever eaten in a single day, not that was 30K was his typical daily caloric consumption.

Let’s also keep this in mind:

Victor Richards faked his own death

Also, Victor tried to down-play Ronnie’s greatness (Victor was a afraid to compete in the NPC and the IFBB. Never competed once in either organization. Meanwhile, Ronnie dominated the sport)

Victor Richards almost got his ass kicked by Mike Christian at Gold’s Gym. Then years later, Victor claimed that Mike Christian was afraid of him 😂
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 16, 2023, 03:34:02 PM
Let’s also keep this in mind:

Victor Richards faked his own death

Also, Victor tried to down-play Ronnie’s greatness (Victor was a afraid to compete in the IFBB. Never competed once. Meanwhile, Ronnie dominated the sport)

Victor Richards almost got his ass kicked by Mike Christian at Gold’s Gym. Then years later, Victor claimed that Mike Christian was afraid of him 😂


Vic Richards on Romano & Palumbo radio show 2010.

" To say Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder is an insult , he doesn't even come in the top 12 "
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Royalty on July 16, 2023, 03:35:03 PM

Vic Richards on Romano & Palumbo radio show 2010.

" To say Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder is an insult , he doesn't even come in the top 12 "


I remember that like it was yesterday
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Sandrock on July 16, 2023, 03:46:43 PM

Vic Richards on Romano & Palumbo radio show 2010.

" To say Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder is an insult , he doesn't even come in the top 12 "


What a twat.  Let me guess, Vic considers himself number 1, right?  Did he list who he thought was better than Ronnie?
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: MCWAY on July 16, 2023, 03:52:15 PM

Vic Richards on Romano & Palumbo radio show 2010.

" To say Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder is an insult , he doesn't even come in the top 12 "


This is coming from the guy who reportedly smashed his trophy and threw a fit, after he lost at an amateur show to Rich Gaspari?

His fear of losing to smaller bodybuilders in better shape and condition is why he never stepped on a pro stage, after winning the 92 Nigerian national title (which I never recalled before or since being a pro qualifying show).
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: IroNat on July 16, 2023, 04:10:08 PM
Define "a little". Today, people would claim the amount of anabolics Schwarzenegger used was a little. But, his predecessors (i.e. Vince Gironda, John Grimek, etc.) screamed that the Oak and his contemporaries were steroid abusers, taking a whole bunch of stuff.

As for Coleman, his contemporaries have backed his claims for decades. Guys like Levrone and Wheeler were amazed that Coleman wasn't using what they were, yet he was still hanging with them. Shawn Ray referred to the pre-Sandow Coleman as a "C-level" bodybuilder.

I've brought up this issue earlier on another thread. But, if pro cards were so hard to obtain in the late 80s/early 90s and drug tests are so easy to pass, why didn't more NPC journeymen tried to get to the Universe to turn pro?

I know that, from a media standpoint, winning the USA or the Nationals (or even the North American) got you more covers and more spots on shows like "American Muscle" than winning the IFBB Mr. Universe/World Amateur Championships did. But, if you'd been slogging in the NPCs for a while (i.e. Bob Chicherillo), why not simply "go off" for a while and try your hand at the U, especially when it came with an Olympia bid at the time?



No.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Mayday on July 16, 2023, 06:09:33 PM
Valentino claimed he never used synthol, but something else? I mean, his arms are full of some shit, but not necessarily synthol.

Valentino said he was injecting a 10ml vile a day into his biceps. Reckons it was just the sheer amount of oil.

The usual oil clears out quickly so whatever he injected the oil was long lasting like synthol. he might have added longer lasting oil like synthol in his gear and shoved it in. Technically not synthol but the same effect.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: cephissus on July 16, 2023, 06:12:38 PM
surely simeon "express" panda is somewhere on the list...
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Flexacon on July 17, 2023, 02:28:14 AM
Technically it's probably Ron Harris. He must have ghost written thousands of articles with added fluff to make them more interesting.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 18, 2023, 01:12:32 AM
Technically it's probably Ron Harris. He must have ghost written thousands of articles with added fluff to make them more interesting.
As a teenager I actually thought the bodybuilders wrote their own training articles. I was amazed at their intelligence and ability to write. ;D
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: joswift on July 18, 2023, 02:52:28 PM
surely simeon "express" panda is somewhere on the list...
he is until he raises his arms, then he disappears

Sev said....
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Never1AShow on July 18, 2023, 03:04:49 PM
Define "a little". Today, people would claim the amount of anabolics Schwarzenegger used was a little. But, his predecessors (i.e. Vince Gironda, John Grimek, etc.) screamed that the Oak and his contemporaries were steroid abusers, taking a whole bunch of stuff.

As for Coleman, his contemporaries have backed his claims for decades. Guys like Levrone and Wheeler were amazed that Coleman wasn't using what they were, yet he was still hanging with them. Shawn Ray referred to the pre-Sandow Coleman as a "C-level" bodybuilder.

I've brought up this issue earlier on another thread. But, if pro cards were so hard to obtain in the late 80s/early 90s and drug tests are so easy to pass, why didn't more NPC journeymen tried to get to the Universe to turn pro?

I know that, from a media standpoint, winning the USA or the Nationals (or even the North American) got you more covers and more spots on shows like "American Muscle" than winning the IFBB Mr. Universe/World Amateur Championships did. But, if you'd been slogging in the NPCs for a while (i.e. Bob Chicherillo), why not simply "go off" for a while and try your hand at the U, especially when it came with an Olympia bid at the time?

I don't think you could do this, didn't you need to win the Nationals first to qualify for a Universe Spot?  To win the Nationals from non-USA country you'd need some kind of connection like Victor Richards claimed for Nigeria
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: benchmstr on July 18, 2023, 03:23:23 PM
Anything ever said by a bodybuilder is a lie

Bench
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: falco on July 18, 2023, 03:35:35 PM
Manfred Hoebert 10 minute synthol arm workout.

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Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Chidoman on July 18, 2023, 04:26:09 PM
As a teenager I actually the bodybuilders wrote their own training articles. I was amazed at their intelligence and ability to write. ;D

Just like Arnold's thick ass encyclopedia..... ;D
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 19, 2023, 12:18:34 AM
Just like Arnold's thick ass encyclopedia..... ;D
Yeah, if Arnold wrote his own book it would be a pamphlet.
Title: Re: Biggest Bullshitters in bodybuilding history
Post by: Gym Rat on July 19, 2023, 01:54:09 AM
Our very own fake tough-guy. More ailments than concentration-camp combined..