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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: IroNat on July 26, 2023, 03:51:43 AM
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Do your own research and don't blindly follow a doctor's advices.
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Physicians in America are among the best-trained professionals out there. The high salaries attract the best minds, although perhaps not all are “smart”. It’s good to be informed and question medical guidance with a critical eye, but it’s quite arrogant to think that a layperson would know better than a medical doctor.
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I ignored 2 consultants advice over my kidney stones and things worked out fine when I convinced him that I was right.
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I ignored 2 consultants advice over my kidney stones and things worked out fine when I convinced him that I was right.
Yes Joe we know you are the expert on training & everything medical ::)
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Yes Joe we know you are the expert on training & everything medical ::)
and you are the expert on me ;)
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Yes Joe we know you are the expert on training & everything medical ::)
But if it worked out for him, what's the problem?
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But if it worked out for him, what's the problem?
dont worry Matt, hes a fan boy ;)
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I just made a post about this two hours ago on Facebook. Here is a portion of it:
"The Thunder Bay Regional Hospital only JUST removed the mask mandate. Around May 26th.
It took so long because to stop wearing masks now that C-19 has reached endemicity status [= it's here to STAY] is to admit that masks never worked.
To not get boosters every six months is also a tacit/implicit admission that the virus isn't anything to worry about.
What this shows to me is that the average doctor just parrots his curriculum.
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Why should I trust doctors or our medical system/experts? Collectively, they have proven to be morons who subscribe to social pressure.
So yeah.
I won't ever enter a hospital again except by force, or due to being unconscious/incapacitated.
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Someone - ANYONE - can explain to me how to come to trust Western medicine again after what JUST HAPPENED.
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Anyway, I'm also not wrong about doctors irrational compliance with the C-19 scam. Yet...I know that insulin works.
SO HOW DO I PARTITION THAT IN MY MIND AND BUILD TRUST AGAIN?"
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But if it worked out for him, what's the problem?
Yeah i guess he Googled it :D
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dont worry Matt, hes a fan boy ;)
Lol, that's good.
Remember that loser in your gym who was blaming the unvaccinated, then you told him you were unvaccinated, and after the plandemic/joke ended, you confronted him on the scam?
Good on you, mate!
Good going, joswift. Keep doing stuff like that! :)
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But if it worked out for him, what's the problem?
Medicine (and science as a whole) deals with probabilities. Medical practice should be based on the interventions that have the highest chance of good outcomes. Sometimes, the right interventions can still lead to a bad outcome. Conversely, not doing the right interventions can sometimes result in a good outcome.
We all know that smoking cigarettes is bad for one’s health, and yet there are still outliers who live a long life despite smoking a pack a day. We all know that eating healthy and exercising regularly promotes health and well-being, and yet there are people who do all that and still die of cancer or heart attack in their 40s. Neither of those outlier cases invalidate the negative effects of smoking or the beneficial effects of healthy diet & exercise.
In Jeff’s example, he had a good outcome against the odds. He rolled the dice and got lucky. If that scenario played out 100x, the majority of the time he wouldn’t have had the same positive outcome. Extrapolating his particular case to all cases of kidney stones is fallacious thinking.
Hope that helps.
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Yeah i guess he Googled it :D
I Googled that only 1,159 of 23,426,916 Canadians under age 50 died of Covid, meaning that over 99.995% survived, after 3.5 years of this pandemic farce.
I also Googled that most of those 1,159 who did die had cancer or other terminal illnesses, making the Covid survival rate in my demographic 100%.
So I didn't get vaccinated. My doctor did.
Was I wrong?
Was joswift wrong?
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A lot of Dr's are garbage, lots are great... Up to the patient to research and find out, and to choose a good one if needed.
Some are very fat, retarded, smoking slobs... Dont get stuck w/ a dumb-ass and just follow dumb advices...
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I Googled that only 1,159 of 23,426,916 Canadians under age 50 died of Covid, meaning that over 99.995% survived, after 3.5 years of this pandemic farce.
I also Googled that most of those 1,159 who did die had cancer or other terminal illnesses, making the Covid survival rate in my demographic 100%.
So I didn't get vaccinated. My doctor did.
Was I wrong?
Was joswift wrong?
Time will tell luck always runs out
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Do your own research and don't blindly follow a doctor's advices.
Huh. I didn't know guys who drove trains were so brainy.
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Medicine (and science as a whole) deals with probabilities. Medical practice should be based on the interventions that have the highest chance of good outcomes. Sometimes, the right interventions can still lead to a bad outcome. Conversely, not doing the right interventions can sometimes result in a good outcome.
We all know that smoking cigarettes is bad for one’s health, and yet there are still outliers who live a long life despite smoking a pack a day. We all know that eating healthy and exercising regularly promotes health and well-being, and yet there are people who do all that and still die of cancer or heart attack in their 40s. Neither of those outlier cases invalidate the negative effects of smoking or the beneficial effects of healthy diet & exercise.
In Jeff’s example, he had a good outcome against the odds. He rolled the dice and got lucky. If that scenario played out 100x, the majority of the time he wouldn’t have had the same positive outcome. Extrapolating his particular case to all cases of kidney stones is fallacious thinking.
Hope that helps.
Science in general deals with what happens "on average". Medicine is more about what happens to an individual or how to best treat an individual. I'm not a doctor, but that is the hard part of medicine, I'd imagine.
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Physicians in America are among the best-trained professionals out there. The high salaries attract the best minds, although perhaps not all are “smart”. It’s good to be informed and question medical guidance with a critical eye, but it’s quite arrogant to think that a layperson would know better than a medical doctor.
That might have been true 30+ years ago. Many of the most average people I know became doctors. Many more medical schools these days, especially in the islands. Now surgeons are a different story but your average internist is by no means guaranteed to be a smart person these days.
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That might have been true 30+ years ago. Many of the most average people I know became doctors. Many more medical schools these days, especially in the islands. Now surgeons are a different story but your average internist is by no means guaranteed to be a smart person these days.
Agreed, there are some very talented surgeons and the technology in that part of the field has increased good outcomes.
There has been a brain drain to tech and financials. Most small hospital systems in the USA are staffed by MD doctors who received their initial degrees in other home countries then transferred here to put their time in. They are not the best of the best. I have seen these types come and go with my parent's medical issues.
In general being a doctor does not attract the critical thinker. It attracts good students of rote knowledge. In short, you aren't going to run into Dr. House in today's medical system. They do what they are told, by the book.
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I have come to realize that, indeed, a great many medical doctors are not particularly intelligent.
Like most every institution, the practice has been massively corrupted, too.
Outside of prescription and surgery, the average person is better off to tend to his own health matters.
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Covid experts taught us never to read about a subject unless we are involved in that subject professionally.
I buy whatever car my car dealer tells me. He's the expert. Only idiots take it upon themselves to research. Who told you you could read, peasant? >:(
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Physicians in America are among the best-trained professionals out there. The high salaries attract the best minds, although perhaps not all are “smart”. It’s good to be informed and question medical guidance with a critical eye, but it’s quite arrogant to think that a layperson would know better than a medical doctor.
Getbiggers are their own doctors, just look at bhanky
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Covid experts taught us never to read about a subject unless we are involved in that subject professionally.
I buy whatever car my car dealer tells me. He's the expert. Only idiots take it upon themselves to research. Who told you you could read, peasant? >:(
he sells you the car thats going to benefit him the most , not you, fucks sake mate.
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he sells you the car thats going to benefit him the most , not you, fucks sake mate.
Right. Because I certainly wasn't being sarcastic.
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he sells you the car thats going to benefit him the most , not you, fucks sake mate.
like your Doctor who gives you, your anti-depression pills.
Double egged sword son but you just don´t get it. ???
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Right. Because I certainly wasn't being sarcastic.
Unreal. ;D
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Right. Because I certainly wasn't being sarcastic.
I thought you was American
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I thought you was American
Excellent command of the language.
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like your Doctor who gives you, your anti-depression pills.
Double egged sword son but you just don´t get it. ???
comma not required
look into it
PS, Im older than you ;)
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Excellent command of the language.
Fucks sake, trust me to just pull someone on grammar ;D
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comma not required
look into it
PS, Im older than you ;)
But still very immature.
Grammar won´t help you there.
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I have come to realize that, indeed, a great many medical doctors are not particularly intelligent.
Like most every institution, the practice has been massively corrupted, too.
Outside of prescription and surgery, the average person is better off to tend to his own health matters.
This is the real issue. They have to operate within a system that is heavily skewed toward certain treatments and they can lose their career if they get out of line.
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This is the real issue. They have to operate within a system that is heavily skewed toward certain treatments and they can lose their career if they get out of line.
This.
Standard of Care.
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Covid experts taught us never to read about a subject unless we are involved in that subject professionally.
I buy whatever car my car dealer tells me. He's the expert. Only idiots take it upon themselves to research. Who told you you could read, peasant? >:(
Good point.
Medical Doctors are CLEARLY idiots.
We should all live like we did BEFORE we had modern medicine.
🙄🙄
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Good point.
Medical Doctors are CLEARLY idiots.
We should all live like we did BEFORE we had modern medicine.
🙄🙄
Increases in life expectancy are primarily due to lower infant mortality.
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Good point.
Medical Doctors are CLEARLY idiots.
We should all live like we did BEFORE we had modern medicine.
🙄🙄
Stellar reading comprehension, stupid.
:D
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Becoming a doctor requires a high degree of self-discipline and the ability to memorize a large amount of information.
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Increases in life expectancy are primarily due to lower infant mortality.
No.
Mostly due to vaccines and antibiotics.
We’re sure lucky COVID happened now and not 200 years ago. Some people don’t appreciate that though.
🙁
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Becoming a doctor requires a high degree of self-discipline and the ability to memorize a large amount of information.
A chemist on the other hand just has to be good at finding things on a shelf...
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Do your own research and don't blindly follow a doctor's advices.
Seeing a doctor at times is necessary. You can't perform an echocardiogram yourself. I get labs done 3/4 times a year through Life Extension. I have been reading labs for well over 20 yrs. If I see an issue on them I know the changes that need to be made. Doctors for me are a last resort or for routine diagnostic testing. I don't trust anyone including doctors.
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Becoming a doctor requires a high degree of self-discipline and the ability to memorize a large amount of information.
So does being an engineer.
Intelligence and being educated are too completely different things.
I've worked in engineering my entire career and have a masters in engineering.
I learned 10 times the information my first 5 years at the job than in school.
Alot of engineers are stupid too, but i find engineers to be the most logical and levelheaded people on the planet.
I've been mis-diagnosed many times by doctors.
I've never engineered anything that failed and spent most of my career in forensic evaluations. My job is to prove what failed, why and whose fault it is.
But they are completely different fields.
I do not trust doctors, i know plenty of them that are idiots.
My ex had a PhD and struggled to understand how to put air in a car tire.
I always get a second opinion on anything serious.
And my younger brother worked for an insurance company that handled malpractice claims.
It's insane how many doctors have dozens of claims due to simple mistakes, usually because they don't take time to research properly and diagnose based on statistics.