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I found this to be interesting.
Good for Lex for doing this..although I think he may have cherry-picked the results somewhat.
I expected more hate than this. And I would expect the same if he interviewed Israeli Jews.
Or perhaps the situation has improved in the past 13 years since I was more closely following it.
At the time, there were 22 explicitly anti-Palestinian laws codified on the books in Israel. I'm not sure if that has changed, but these responses are more positive than I expected.
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It's a dire situation, Matthamed. This is a good area for you to research and speak on, I think. It would allow you to apply your general suspicions to something more concrete. The Israeli Government’s annexation policies are illegal under international law, and they are being defended through an evil and destructive propaganda campaign. Will you fight with us, brother Matthamed?
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It's a dire situation, Matthamed.
;D ;D ;D
This is a good area for you to research and speak on, I think. It would allow you to apply your general suspicions to something more concrete. The Israeli Government’s annexation policies are illegal under international law, and they are being defended through an evil and destructive propaganda campaign. Will you fight with us, brother Matthamed?
It's a sad situation.
I don't see any solution.
Diversity is not a "strength". Israelis and Palestinians have not and will never get along.
I feel like a two-state solution may be appropriate, but you'd have to talk to the people living there.
I just don't think people from diverse backgrounds get along all that well.
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While it may not be imminent, the absense of a two state solution is the death knell for Israel.
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Get rid of all religions , many folk would then get along a lot better.
All this fighting over my god / religion is the correct/ true one bollocks.
There is NO weirdy beardy sky wizard , end of.
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While it may not be imminent, the absense of a two state solution is the death knell for Israel.
That's actually the view I have held for nearly 15 years now.
Although, as I said, I'd have to ask the people living there.
This may be the video where both Israelis and Palestinians are asked about their views on each other, and they both basically say that they hate each other:
As sad as it is that people hate each other that much, I don't think it's for no reason.
That's why I personally don't see it even working.
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Get rid of all religions , many folk would then get along a lot better.
All this fighting over my god / religion is the correct/ true one bollocks.
There is NO weirdy beardy sky wizard , end of.
God doesn't exist?
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God doesn't exist?
Nope - 👍🏻
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Get rid of all religions , many folk would then get along a lot better.
All this fighting over my god / religion is the correct/ true one bollocks.
There is NO weirdy beardy sky wizard , end of.
It is racial as well.
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Get rid of all religions , many folk would then get along a lot better.
All this fighting over my god / religion is the correct/ true one bollocks.
There is NO weirdy beardy sky wizard , end of.
pretty childish isn't it.. fairytales...
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pretty childish isn't it.. fairytales...
Yes very its 2023 & folk killing each other over some imaginary
Sky wizard. ::) unbelievable!!
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Get rid of all religions , many folk would then get along a lot better.
All this fighting over my god / religion is the correct/ true one bollocks.
There is NO weirdy beardy sky wizard , end of.
This one isn't religion, matt's right in that zionists are disgusting monsters, barely better than nazis. I grew up drinking the koolaid, it wasn't until is served in the idf that you see how we basically turn these people into terrorists or how we've actively squash any potential growth or future they can have
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The Jews came out on top of the Faisal–Weizmann agreement and Balfour Declaration. Palestinian is a pan identity partly based on bullshit. If I remember correctly none of the Arab nations supported a state what is now known as Palestine. Here's Gaddafi take on the region
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2XE0AIGQArc
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Towel headed, camel fucking terrorists start shit with God's chosen people, get their asses kicked, then cry about "oppression." Rinse and repeat.
Muhammad was an illiterate pedophile who now resides in Hell.
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"Palestine" ::) ::) ::)
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Towel headed, camel fucking terrorists start shit with God's chosen people, get their asses kicked, then cry about "oppression." Rinse and repeat.
Muhammad was an illiterate pedophile who now resides in Hell.
"Muhammad was an illiterate pedophile who now resides in Hell."
Yep he was & if there is such a place as Hell let's hope he is.
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Propaganda is on both sides. The issue is that you have right wingers on both sides that will not agree not matter what. And nothing but uneasy cease fires will be the way.
Palestinians do not hate Jews, and neither the Jews hate Palestinians. The 5% fringes always speaks louder than the majority.
But first step to even have a discussion - Hamas needs to come out and say that Israel had a right to exist. To agree on solutions. Until Hamas and others reject destroying Israel, not much will ever come of anything.
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Fuque Palestinians. They are the Chicagoans of the Desert. Nobody likes 'em and nobody wants them in their neighborhood. Not even other Arabs. And fuck islime and all the silicon negroes to fucking Hades.
islimic "men" (as if) are allowed to marry any women that are of the "people of the book", i.e., islime bitches, Jewish women and Christian women. But islimic womenz can ONLY marry islimic menz, i.e., silicon negroes.
Fuck That Noise.
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But first step to even have a discussion - Hamas needs to come out and say that Israel had a right to exist. To agree on solutions. Until Hamas and others reject destroying Israel, not much will ever come of anything.
Discussion? You mean a statement that Jews are in the right. Forget about Hamas, what about the UN and what they consider illegal about current Israel?
Personally I think it's not about right or wrong, it's just an example of might is right. Israel and the Jews right now seem so superior and powerful... and if something did happen to threaten that position then there is the Samson Option. Maybe there will be some kind of black swan event or development no one is predicting or seeing yet that changes everything but I doubt it.
What I wonder is if the US, or anyone, really believes in the two state solution they keep talking about. I somehow doubt anyone actually believes it's feasible, so it's a ridiculous situation all around. An independent country of muslims within Israel? Wtf lol. It's completely dishonest rhetoric by the US.
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Discussion? You mean a statement that Jews are in the right. Forget about Hamas, what about the UN and what they consider illegal about current Israel?
A discussion from both right wing sides on a realistic approach. First step - recognize Israels right to exist. As for the UN, with 40+ associated with Muslim and Arab alignment, the UN is a joke on condemning whatever they feel like one one side and not on the other.
This discussion has been going on since day one on Getbig, at least a few times a year. Opinions on all sides, but until the hardliners on both sides discuss, it is mute.
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A discussion from both right wing sides on a realistic approach. First step - recognize Israels right to exist. As for the UN, with 40+ associated with Muslim and Arab alignment, the UN is a joke on condemning whatever they feel like one one side and not on the other.
This discussion has been going on since day one on Getbig, at least a few times a year. Opinions on all sides, but until the hardliners on both sides discuss, it is mute.
Not really surprising you're an epic fatass given how much Zionist bullshit you swallow. And it's moot, not mute. Mute is what someone should be when they don't know what the fuck they're talking about, e.g., you in this thread. How about as a first step before any discussions, you stop your ethnic cleansing campaign against the indigenous population? This has nothing to do with religion or the few Palestinian extremists you've created.
Just wait... if you think Lakehead uni was bad, you have no idea what's coming when Matthamed Canning and I team up to settle this issue with pure, focused muscle power and fury.
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Not really surprising you're an epic fatass given how much Zionist bullshit you swallow. And it's moot, not mute. Mute is what someone should be when they don't know what the fuck they're talking about, e.g., you in this thread. How about as a first step before any discussions, you stop your ethnic cleansing campaign against the indigenous population? This has nothing to do with religion or the few Palestinian extremists you've created.
Just wait... if you think Lakehead uni was bad, you have no idea what's coming when Matthamed Canning and I team up to settle this issue with pure, focused muscle power and fury.
Allāhu ʾakbar Brother Omari.
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Allāhu ʾakbar Brother Omari.
Blessings be upon you, habibi. 🙏🙏🙏❤
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A discussion from both right wing sides on a realistic approach. First step - recognize Israels right to exist. As for the UN, with 40+ associated with Muslim and Arab alignment, the UN is a joke on condemning whatever they feel like one one side and not on the other.
This discussion has been going on since day one on Getbig, at least a few times a year. Opinions on all sides, but until the hardliners on both sides discuss, it is mute.
The UN may be a joke, I am not a supporter of it in any case. What I'm saying is that a large world community says Israel's settlements are illegal. I didn't check all the countries in this "community" now but my impression has been that many countries in the west say this. If anyone is up on this topic, who is for or against Israels current settlements let us know, at least I think it's pretty interesting but not interesting enough to go research it right now :D Are there some notable exceptions that do not condemn Israel? So is it just "hardliners" who have some problems with Israel? Yes yes they all say "Israel has a right to exist" but the whole thing is problematic nonetheless.
But anyway, this shit affects us all in different ways and there doesn't seem to be any solution that wouldn't be a total disaster for the world. Israel will be there unless the world is nuked.
Israel is RIGHT in the things it does to protect itself (if you are sympathetic to them). It's the hypocrisy that irritates so many. I'm thinking of Israel's borders, Israel's walls, Israel's restricted immigration, all the things the Jews deny "us." Immigration of non-Jews would be suicide, exactly as the ADL says. A Palestine simply can't be allowed to grow. This type of view is considered immoral everywhere else.
BTW, is it right to assume the US and Israel are in fact two different countries? Seems to me you can't really say that. I see some complain about this relationship on the net but it doesn't change the facts.
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The UN may be a joke, I am not a supporter of it in any case. What I'm saying is that a large world community says Israel's settlements are illegal. I didn't check all the countries in this "community" now but my impression has been that many countries in the west say this. If anyone is up on this topic, who is for or against Israels current settlements let us know, at least I think it's pretty interesting but not interesting enough to go research it right now :D Are there some notable exceptions that do not condemn Israel? So is it just "hardliners" who have some problems with Israel? Yes yes they all say "Israel has a right to exist" but the whole thing is problematic nonetheless.
But anyway, this shit affects us all in different ways and there doesn't seem to be any solution that wouldn't be a total disaster for the world. Israel will be there unless the world is nuked.
Israel is RIGHT in the things it does to protect itself (if you are sympathetic to them). It's the hypocrisy that irritates so many. I'm thinking of Israel's borders, Israel's walls, Israel's restricted immigration, all the things the Jews deny "us." Immigration of non-Jews would be suicide, exactly as the ADL says. A Palestine simply can't be allowed to grow. This type of view is considered immoral everywhere else.
BTW, is it right to assume the US and Israel are in fact two different countries? Seems to me you can't really say that. I see some complain about this relationship on the net but it doesn't change the facts.
Great post, Van.
Look at the border wall Jews have in Israel. Nothing wrong with this...but at least admit that diversity is not a "strength" when it obviously is not.
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Check this out:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan
^ IMO, that is evidence that Hitler's policy on Jews was initially one of emigration, not extermination. He did allude to a Holocaust if Germany was dragged into another war, by what he deemed Jewish influence in the press and in international finance.
Which makes me wonder - why antagonize someone who promised that, who had the means to carry it out?
Makes me think elite Jews either wanted to Holocaust [for sympathy for a Jewish homeland, or to cull their lower IQ members, given how selective Jews are as to who becomes a Jew or not], or didn't take Hitler seriously.
I'm not sure which.
But Hitler would have never planned to relocate Jews to Madagascar if he had a plan of Jewish extermination from the start.
Maybe it was just a matter of not thinking Whites/Gentiles ever push back, and losing control of the situation.
You'd think if a world leader as powerful as Hitler was threatens a Holocaust, you would take him seriously.
This is a good article, written by a Jewish scholar:
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
^ Jews have not committed crimes against humanity to that extent since Hitler. So he clearly factors in the Jewish collective consciousness at some level.
What I can't stand is the one-sided nature of this topic.
I agree that Jews were scapegoated - but common Jews were scapegoated for the actions of elite Jews...like Lazar Kaganovich, who perpetrated the Ukrainian Famine [Holodolor].
To make it sound like everything outlined in that YNetNews article didn't happen...that's ridiculous.
Although normal Jews being killed over what Kaganovich or the Rothschilds did isn't fair. But we have this conversation like none of that happened.
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Matt - I'm with you on Israel until you start up on Hitler, the Rothschilds, etc. To me the creation of Israel was botched. It is now 75 years old and their actions are losing the support of the world not just the Arab world. It is heading in the direction of apartheid. That will spell the beginning of its end. Young people here aren't going to be riddled with guilt over the Holocaust and are just not going to support it. Let me be clear in my belief that the Holocaust happened and yes, in the numbers reported. I support Never Again which is why 2 states is the only way. Ron is right when he says bad actors on each side sabotage any hope of this. Residue is correct in that since Israel has all the power that their actions are going to drive new generations of young Arabs into the arms of terrorists.
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Matt - I'm with you on Israel until you start up on Hitler, the Rothschilds, etc. To me the creation of Israel was botched. It is now 75 years old and their actions are losing the support of the world not just the Arab world. It is heading in the direction of apartheid. That will spell the beginning of its end. Young people here aren't going to be riddled with guilt over the Holocaust and are just not going to support it. Let me be clear in my belief that the Holocaust happened and yes, in the numbers reported. I support Never Again which is why 2 states is the only way. Ron is right when he says bad actors on each side sabotage any hope of this. Residue is correct in that since Israel has all the power that their actions are going to drive new generations of young Arabs into the arms of terrorists.
I doubt there will be any peaceful solution regardless of Israel agreeing to a 2 state solution or Palestinians agreeing to Israel's right to exist. Even if those 2 things happen, they will be at war with each other within a few decades.
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This one isn't religion, matt's right in that zionists are disgusting monsters, barely better than nazis. I grew up drinking the koolaid, it wasn't until is served in the idf that you see how we basically turn these people into terrorists or how we've actively squash any potential growth or future they can have
It takes integrity for someone from your background to admit that. Respect.
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Interesting that in general population Both Jews & Muslim's are disliked
and not trusted - Jews & muslim's also hate each other.
I know just get rid of them all or only let them stay in their own countries. ;D
2023 & this stupid nonsense is going on - We'v really not moved very far forwards. ???
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Fuque Palestinians. They are the Chicagoans of the Desert
No, most Palestinians are good people, who want to live in peace. But the fanatic right, if they even say so, will have them killed.
Jews & muslim's also hate each other
Many, many do not - but it is the far right on both sides that drive the hatred and fear mongering.
You'd think if a world leader as powerful as Hitler was threatens a Holocaust, you would take him seriously.
It is because the world didn't want to be a part of it, as it was 'not their problem'. Until it was. 20 million were killed, 6 millions Jews.
Not really surprising you're an epic fatass given how much Zionist bullshit you swallow. And it's moot, not mute
Of course, as usual, a discussion and dialogue always has to have the one that calls out names, instead of some beneficial material. And it is mute. Aka silent, quiet. Can't have a discussion when one side doesnt even acknowledge a countries right to exist. When they decide to be be silent and remove it from their code, maybe things can get better. Might take another generation or two to happen.
their actions are going to drive new generations of young Arabs into the arms of terrorists
Sadly, both right wingers have an influence in this. I don't have any answer for a solution, I don't think anyone does at the moment, but a spark of recognizing the right to exist might help a little. AS for discussion, I do believe in the right of free speech. I do not believe in the right to use that free speech for threats, calling out violence, and especially, attacking others just for the fun of it.
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No, most Palestinians are good people, who want to live in peace.
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Come on, Ron...it would be nice to all get along. I understand the Palestinian plight. I get it.
As Van Bilderass alluded to, the issue isn't so much about Jews displacing Palestinians, but the hypocrisy of strong borders for Jews [rightfully so], but not for the West/Europe.
I say: strong borders for EVERYONE.
A comparison is often made with Palestinians in Israel and Indigenous people in Canada. But Indigenous people DO commit most of the murders in my city. And WHAT can be tried to make things work in Israel that hasn't been tried?
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In Canada, no amount of free college/dental care, etc, has improved the lot in life for our Indigenous people. In fact...big monetary handouts hurt my cousin.
My cousins are half-Ojibwe from Emo First Nation.
I just feel diversity does not work, and forcing it doesn't change that. It's sad, but...I see no other truth right now.
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It takes integrity for someone from your background to admit that. Respect.
I'm uniquely qualified in this topic, certainly here anyway. My family is mizrahi we never left, we lived with the arabs for hundreds of years. A lot/most of these folks don't have basic infrastructure, we have bombed them back into the 1800's all because of hamas. In reality Hamas is just a puppet of the Iranian and Qatari governments, yeah they fund shit like schools, running water and hospitals to keep hamas in power, but that comes with a price. So people are left with an impossible choice, watch their kids starve/die of some curable disease or participate in terrorism.
And as political as this board is, people cant understand what it's like having a government that doesn't actually represent the people? that's what happening there too, people are being punished because of the actions of hamas who dont represent the people but represent foreign governments
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Come on, Ron...it would be nice to all get along. I understand the Palestinian plight. I get it.
As Van Bilderass alluded to, the issue isn't so much about Jews displacing Palestinians, but the hypocrisy of strong borders for Jews [rightfully so], but not for the West/Europe.
I say: strong borders for EVERYONE.
A comparison is often made with Palestinians in Israel and Indigenous people in Canada. But Indigenous people DO commit most of the murders in my city. And WHAT can be tried to make things work in Israel that hasn't been tried?
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In Canada, no amount of free college/dental care, etc, has improved the lot in life for our Indigenous people. In fact...big monetary handouts hurt my cousin.
My cousins are half-Ojibwe from Emo First Nation.
I just feel diversity does not work, and forcing it doesn't change that. It's sad, but...I see no other truth right now.
if you want to make a comparison with the fist nation to Palestinians, compare modern day Palestine to the first nation of the 17 and 1800's.
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I'm uniquely qualified in this topic, certainly here anyway. My family is mizrahi we never left, we lived with the arabs for hundreds of years. A lot/most of these folks don't have basic infrastructure, we have bombed them back into the 1800's all because of hamas. In reality Hamas is just a puppet of the Iranian and Qatari governments, yeah they fund shit like schools, running water and hospitals to keep hamas in power, but that comes with a price. So people are left with an impossible choice, watch their kids starve/die of some curable disease or participate in terrorism.
And as political as this board is, people cant understand what it's like having a government that doesn't actually represent the people? that's what happening there too, people are being punished because of the actions of hamas who dont represent the people but represent foreign governments
That sounds very similar in a way to US, UK & many other European countries
Governments aren't listing to its people & are controlled by an outside
Group with it's own agenda.
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I'm uniquely qualified in this topic, certainly here anyway. My family is mizrahi we never left, we lived with the arabs for hundreds of years. A lot/most of these folks don't have basic infrastructure, we have bombed them back into the 1800's all because of hamas. In reality Hamas is just a puppet of the Iranian and Qatari governments, yeah they fund shit like schools, running water and hospitals to keep hamas in power, but that comes with a price. So people are left with an impossible choice, watch their kids starve/die of some curable disease or participate in terrorism.
And as political as this board is, people cant understand what it's like having a government that doesn't actually represent the people? that's what happening there too, people are being punished because of the actions of hamas who dont represent the people but represent foreign governments
So then, you still reside amongst the siliconegroes? You have never left, correct?