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Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« on: August 01, 2023, 03:52:48 AM »
I found this to be interesting.

Good for Lex for doing this..although I think he may have cherry-picked the results somewhat.

I expected more hate than this. And I would expect the same if he interviewed Israeli Jews.

Or perhaps the situation has improved in the past 13 years since I was more closely following it.

At the time, there were 22 explicitly anti-Palestinian laws codified on the books in Israel. I'm not sure if that has changed, but these responses are more positive than I expected.




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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2023, 11:35:05 PM »
It's a dire situation, Matthamed. This is a good area for you to research and speak on, I think. It would allow you to apply your general suspicions to something more concrete. The Israeli Government’s annexation policies are illegal under international law, and they are being defended through an evil and destructive propaganda campaign. Will you fight with us, brother Matthamed?

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2023, 12:26:42 AM »
It's a dire situation, Matthamed.

 ;D ;D ;D

This is a good area for you to research and speak on, I think. It would allow you to apply your general suspicions to something more concrete. The Israeli Government’s annexation policies are illegal under international law, and they are being defended through an evil and destructive propaganda campaign. Will you fight with us, brother Matthamed?

It's a sad situation.

I don't see any solution.

Diversity is not a "strength". Israelis and Palestinians have not and will never get along.

I feel like a two-state solution may be appropriate, but you'd have to talk to the people living there.

I just don't think people from diverse backgrounds get along all that well.

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2023, 12:29:13 AM »
While it may not be imminent, the absense of a two state solution is the death knell for Israel. 

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2023, 12:47:55 AM »
Get rid of all religions , many folk would then get along a lot better.
All this fighting over my god / religion is the correct/ true one bollocks.

There is NO weirdy beardy sky wizard , end of.

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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2023, 12:50:12 AM »
While it may not be imminent, the absense of a two state solution is the death knell for Israel.

That's actually the view I have held for nearly 15 years now.

Although, as I said, I'd have to ask the people living there.

This may be the video where both Israelis and Palestinians are asked about their views on each other, and they both basically say that they hate each other:



As sad as it is that people hate each other that much, I don't think it's for no reason.

That's why I personally don't see it even working.

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2023, 12:52:19 AM »
Get rid of all religions , many folk would then get along a lot better.
All this fighting over my god / religion is the correct/ true one bollocks.

There is NO weirdy beardy sky wizard , end of.

God doesn't exist?

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2023, 12:53:42 AM »
God doesn't exist?

Nope - 👍🏻

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2023, 12:59:46 AM »
Get rid of all religions , many folk would then get along a lot better.
All this fighting over my god / religion is the correct/ true one bollocks.

There is NO weirdy beardy sky wizard , end of.
It is racial as well.

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2023, 01:57:29 AM »
Get rid of all religions , many folk would then get along a lot better.
All this fighting over my god / religion is the correct/ true one bollocks.

There is NO weirdy beardy sky wizard , end of.
pretty childish isn't it.. fairytales...

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2023, 04:44:56 AM »
pretty childish isn't it.. fairytales...

Yes very its 2023 & folk killing each other over some imaginary
Sky wizard.  ::) unbelievable!!

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2023, 08:21:05 AM »
Get rid of all religions , many folk would then get along a lot better.
All this fighting over my god / religion is the correct/ true one bollocks.

There is NO weirdy beardy sky wizard , end of.


This one isn't religion, matt's right in that zionists are disgusting monsters, barely better than nazis. I grew up drinking the koolaid, it wasn't until is served in the idf that you see how we basically turn these people into terrorists or how we've actively squash any potential growth or future they can have

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2023, 03:56:18 PM »
The Jews came out on top of the Faisal–Weizmann agreement and Balfour Declaration. Palestinian is a pan identity partly based on bullshit. If I remember correctly none of the Arab nations supported a state what is now known as Palestine. Here's Gaddafi take on the region

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2XE0AIGQArc

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2023, 03:57:44 PM »
Towel headed, camel fucking terrorists start shit with God's chosen people, get their asses kicked, then cry about "oppression." Rinse and repeat.

Muhammad was an illiterate pedophile who now resides in Hell.
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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2023, 03:57:53 PM »
"Palestine"   ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2023, 04:34:21 PM »
Towel headed, camel fucking terrorists start shit with God's chosen people, get their asses kicked, then cry about "oppression." Rinse and repeat.

Muhammad was an illiterate pedophile who now resides in Hell.


"Muhammad was an illiterate pedophile who now resides in Hell."

Yep he was & if there is such a place as Hell let's hope he is.

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2023, 05:37:10 PM »

Propaganda is on both sides.   The issue is that you have right wingers on both sides that will not agree not matter what. And nothing but uneasy cease fires will be the way.

Palestinians do not hate Jews, and neither the Jews hate Palestinians.  The 5% fringes always speaks louder than the majority.


But first step to even have a discussion - Hamas needs to come out and say that Israel had a right to exist.  To agree on solutions. Until Hamas and others reject destroying Israel, not much will ever come of anything. 


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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2023, 05:55:50 PM »
Fuque Palestinians.  They are the Chicagoans of the Desert.  Nobody likes 'em and nobody wants them in their neighborhood.  Not even other Arabs.  And fuck islime and all the silicon negroes to fucking  Hades.

islimic "men" (as if) are allowed to marry any women that are of the "people of the book", i.e., islime bitches, Jewish women and Christian women.  But islimic womenz can ONLY marry islimic menz, i.e., silicon negroes.

Fuck That Noise.

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2023, 06:04:38 PM »


But first step to even have a discussion - Hamas needs to come out and say that Israel had a right to exist.  To agree on solutions. Until Hamas and others reject destroying Israel, not much will ever come of anything.

Discussion? You mean a statement that Jews are in the right. Forget about Hamas, what about the UN and what they consider illegal about current Israel?

Personally I think it's not about right or wrong, it's just an example of might is right. Israel and the Jews right now seem so superior and powerful... and if something did happen to threaten that position then there is the Samson Option. Maybe there will be some kind of black swan event or development no one is predicting or seeing yet that changes everything but I doubt it.

What I wonder is if the US, or anyone, really believes in the two state solution they keep talking about. I somehow doubt anyone actually believes it's feasible, so it's a ridiculous situation all around. An independent country of muslims within Israel? Wtf lol. It's completely dishonest rhetoric by the US.

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2023, 06:53:13 PM »

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Discussion? You mean a statement that Jews are in the right. Forget about Hamas, what about the UN and what they consider illegal about current Israel?

A discussion from both right wing sides on a realistic approach.  First step - recognize Israels right to exist.   As for the UN, with 40+ associated with Muslim and Arab alignment, the UN is a joke on condemning whatever they feel like one one side and not on the other.

This discussion has been going on since day one on Getbig, at least a few times a year. Opinions on all sides, but until the hardliners on both sides discuss, it is mute.

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2023, 10:20:44 PM »
A discussion from both right wing sides on a realistic approach.  First step - recognize Israels right to exist.   As for the UN, with 40+ associated with Muslim and Arab alignment, the UN is a joke on condemning whatever they feel like one one side and not on the other.

This discussion has been going on since day one on Getbig, at least a few times a year. Opinions on all sides, but until the hardliners on both sides discuss, it is mute.

Not really surprising you're an epic fatass given how much Zionist bullshit you swallow. And it's moot, not mute. Mute is what someone should be when they don't know what the fuck they're talking about, e.g., you in this thread. How about as a first step before any discussions, you stop your ethnic cleansing campaign against the indigenous population? This has nothing to do with religion or the few Palestinian extremists you've created.

Just wait... if you think Lakehead uni was bad, you have no idea what's coming when Matthamed Canning and I team up to settle this issue with pure, focused muscle power and fury. 

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2023, 10:30:33 PM »
Not really surprising you're an epic fatass given how much Zionist bullshit you swallow. And it's moot, not mute. Mute is what someone should be when they don't know what the fuck they're talking about, e.g., you in this thread. How about as a first step before any discussions, you stop your ethnic cleansing campaign against the indigenous population? This has nothing to do with religion or the few Palestinian extremists you've created.

Just wait... if you think Lakehead uni was bad, you have no idea what's coming when Matthamed Canning and I team up to settle this issue with pure, focused muscle power and fury.

Allāhu ʾakbar Brother Omari.

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2023, 10:34:42 PM »
Allāhu ʾakbar Brother Omari.
Blessings be upon you, habibi. 🙏🙏🙏❤

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2023, 03:19:33 AM »
A discussion from both right wing sides on a realistic approach.  First step - recognize Israels right to exist.   As for the UN, with 40+ associated with Muslim and Arab alignment, the UN is a joke on condemning whatever they feel like one one side and not on the other.

This discussion has been going on since day one on Getbig, at least a few times a year. Opinions on all sides, but until the hardliners on both sides discuss, it is mute.

The UN may be a joke, I am not a supporter of it in any case. What I'm saying is that a large world community says Israel's settlements are illegal. I didn't check all the countries in this "community" now but my impression has been that many countries in the west say this. If anyone is up on this topic, who is for or against Israels current settlements let us know, at least I think it's pretty interesting but not interesting enough to go research it right now :D Are there some notable exceptions that do not condemn Israel? So is it just "hardliners" who have some problems with Israel? Yes yes they all say "Israel has a right to exist" but the whole thing is problematic nonetheless.

But anyway, this shit affects us all in different ways and there doesn't seem to be any solution that wouldn't be a total disaster for the world. Israel will be there unless the world is nuked.

Israel is RIGHT in the things it does to protect itself (if you are sympathetic to them). It's the hypocrisy that irritates so many. I'm thinking of Israel's borders, Israel's walls, Israel's restricted immigration, all the things the Jews deny "us." Immigration of non-Jews would be suicide, exactly as the ADL says. A Palestine simply can't be allowed to grow. This type of view is considered immoral everywhere else.

BTW, is it right to assume the US and Israel are in fact two different countries? Seems to me you can't really say that. I see some complain about this relationship on the net but it doesn't change the facts.

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Re: Lex Fridman speaks to Palestinians in the West Bank.
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2023, 03:32:06 AM »
The UN may be a joke, I am not a supporter of it in any case. What I'm saying is that a large world community says Israel's settlements are illegal. I didn't check all the countries in this "community" now but my impression has been that many countries in the west say this. If anyone is up on this topic, who is for or against Israels current settlements let us know, at least I think it's pretty interesting but not interesting enough to go research it right now :D Are there some notable exceptions that do not condemn Israel? So is it just "hardliners" who have some problems with Israel? Yes yes they all say "Israel has a right to exist" but the whole thing is problematic nonetheless.

But anyway, this shit affects us all in different ways and there doesn't seem to be any solution that wouldn't be a total disaster for the world. Israel will be there unless the world is nuked.

Israel is RIGHT in the things it does to protect itself (if you are sympathetic to them). It's the hypocrisy that irritates so many. I'm thinking of Israel's borders, Israel's walls, Israel's restricted immigration, all the things the Jews deny "us." Immigration of non-Jews would be suicide, exactly as the ADL says. A Palestine simply can't be allowed to grow. This type of view is considered immoral everywhere else.

BTW, is it right to assume the US and Israel are in fact two different countries? Seems to me you can't really say that. I see some complain about this relationship on the net but it doesn't change the facts.

Great post, Van.

Look at the border wall Jews have in Israel. Nothing wrong with this...but at least admit that diversity is not a "strength" when it obviously is not.