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Title: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: JackTheRipper on August 02, 2023, 12:33:23 AM
A good documentary & the blood results shown seems conclusive that plant based cuts out a lot of fat in your blood.
Definitely important for people with heart disease
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 02, 2023, 12:41:58 AM
This will not go over well on this forum.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: JackTheRipper on August 02, 2023, 12:44:54 AM
This will not go over well on this forum.
I still eat some meat but I have cut back in the last few years.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: kreator on August 02, 2023, 01:48:37 AM
You don‘t even have to watch this garbage. Just take a look at who was behind the making of it and you‘ll know it‘s pure propaganda
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: IroNat on August 02, 2023, 03:26:47 AM
A good documentary & the blood results shown seems conclusive that plant based cuts out a lot of fat in your blood.
Definitely important for people with heart disease


No.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 02, 2023, 03:36:02 AM
Most vegetarians look so healthy. Yes, sarcasm.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: falco on August 02, 2023, 03:52:42 AM
Some people function better eating vegetables, others feel more energized eating meat. One just has to find what works for them.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: JackTheRipper on August 02, 2023, 05:03:56 AM
Some people function better eating vegetables, others feel more energized eating meat. One just has to find what works for them.
Exactly.. I personally eat more vegetables Vs meat nowadays but I couldn't totally give up meat.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Henda on August 02, 2023, 05:10:06 AM
Vegetables suck balls even if it is healthier maybe die earlier eating meat but I’d want to die tommorow if eating just veg
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on August 02, 2023, 05:31:40 AM
Most of the meat in the US is shitty quality, and they rolled back the inspection guidelines during covid.  I eat meat once a week or less.  Works for me.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Marty Champions on August 02, 2023, 05:37:15 AM
Lotta healthy meat eaters in 50's 60's years old everywhere
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: joswift on August 02, 2023, 07:46:23 AM
I eat lots of meat
Mince beef , ribeye, sirloin, lamb

I eat almost zero fruit and veg
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: residue on August 02, 2023, 08:16:41 AM
Most of the meat in the US is shitty quality, and they rolled back the inspection guidelines during covid.  I eat meat once a week or less.  Works for me.


this, food shouldn't come from a thousand miles away. Support your local farmers, eat locally sourced, i guarantee you there's a csa service in your town
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on August 02, 2023, 08:35:01 AM

this, food shouldn't come from a thousand miles away. Support your local farmers, eat locally sourced, i guarantee you there's a csa service in your town

Too much work  ;D

If it was important for me, I’d do it but I don’t miss it and generally feel the same or better.  Much easier on the pocketbook, too.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: residue on August 02, 2023, 08:39:45 AM
Too much work  ;D

If it was important for me, I’d do it but I don’t miss it and generally feel the same or better.  Much easier on the pocketbook, too.


i've tried, too legume heavy. i've settled on a pescatarian which im fucking loving 
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: joswift on August 02, 2023, 09:40:25 AM

i've tried, too legume heavy. i've settled on a pescatarian which im fucking loving
you spelt pedophilian wrong  ;D
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: IroNat on August 02, 2023, 10:26:01 AM

this, food shouldn't come from a thousand miles away. Support your local farmers, eat locally sourced, i guarantee you there's a csa service in your town

Bullsh*t.

Support your long-distance farmer pals.

 
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2023, 10:27:05 AM
I still eat some meat but I have cut back in the last few years.

You eat cock, phaggot.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: loco on August 02, 2023, 10:36:08 AM
Most of the meat in the US is shitty quality, and they rolled back the inspection guidelines during covid.  I eat meat once a week or less.  Works for me.

So are the fruits, vegetables, corn, soy, wheat, etc.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 02, 2023, 10:49:55 AM
Why does it have to be a one versus the other debate? You can eat some chicken as well as a salad.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2023, 10:54:34 AM
Exactly.. I personally eat more vegetables Vs meat nowadays but I couldn't totally give up meat.

Blowing old crippled dudes in wheelchairs does not count as eating vegetables, Donald.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: joswift on August 02, 2023, 10:57:17 AM
Why does it have to be a one versus the other debate? You can eat some chicken as well as a salad.
not if you are vegan
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: JackTheRipper on August 02, 2023, 11:36:30 AM
not if you are vegan
This is the answer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollotarianism
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Lartinos on August 02, 2023, 11:47:09 AM
I eat both meats and vegetables; I do agree that extreme diets probably do tend to help some people.
 
I’m thinking I’ll be okay consuming fiber, spirulina, kelp, beet extract and others  :)



Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: pamith on August 02, 2023, 11:57:26 AM
Tbh, it's all about eating plenty of fats
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: joswift on August 02, 2023, 01:20:50 PM
I eat both meats and vegetables; I do agree that extreme diets probably do tend to help some people.
 
I’m thinking I’ll be okay consuming fiber, spirulina, kelp, beet extract and others  :)

watch out for oxalates...
https://sallyknorton.com/oxalate-science/
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: loco on August 02, 2023, 03:52:38 PM
The one video that dispelled my decades-long fear for keto, red meat, sodium, saturated fat, dietary cholesterol, etc., and got me started on my first very meat heavy, keto diet 4 years ago which I've followed consistently to this day:

Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: JackTheRipper on August 03, 2023, 05:39:50 AM
The one video that dispelled my decades-long fear for keto, red meat, sodium, saturated fat, dietary cholesterol, etc., and got me started on my first very meat heavy, keto diet 4 years ago which I've followed consistently to this day:


You Loco... :D

Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Tapeworm on August 03, 2023, 06:46:19 AM
Too much work  ;D

If it was important for me, I’d do it but I don’t miss it and generally feel the same or better.  Much easier on the pocketbook, too.

Men call it a wallet, you fruititarian.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: TheGrinch on August 03, 2023, 07:26:07 AM
Eat 90% plant based and live to 120+

Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: IroNat on August 03, 2023, 07:52:05 AM
Whole eggs and fatty meats are the fountain of youth.

But keep carbs low and no seed oils.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: loco on August 03, 2023, 08:22:17 AM
Whole eggs and fatty meats are the fountain of youth.

But keep carbs low and no seed oils.

Eggxactly!

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Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Lartinos on August 03, 2023, 08:26:56 AM
watch out for oxalates...
https://sallyknorton.com/oxalate-science/

Learned my lesson the hard way eating spinach years back and got a kidney stone.

I was only low carb at the time and tracking little else.

I cut out supplemented forms of calcium (not natural) and obviously no spinach.

I will call BS on the oxalate amount or absorption of Kale BTW.

Like most things in life we need to test what works for us.







Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: JackTheRipper on August 03, 2023, 08:33:49 AM
Eggxactly!

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:D
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on August 03, 2023, 10:08:18 AM
Men call it a wallet, you fruititarian.

With all the money I save from not eating meat, I have far too much cash to fit it in a bifold wallet
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: loco on August 03, 2023, 12:37:42 PM
With all the money I save from not eating meat, I have far too much cash to fit it in a bifold wallet

If not meat, do you eat only plant-based junk food then?  Because in order to do plant-based right according to plant-based doctors and gurus, you'll have to buy and eat lots of organic produce, which ain't cheap.  You don't have to go organic, but then you'll be consuming a ton of pesticides.  You'll also have to spend on supplements such as B12, Zinc, Calcium, etc.

Since I switched to an animal-based diet, I've saved significantly not only on food, but on medications, doctors visits, and supplements I no longer need.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: IroNat on August 03, 2023, 12:40:27 PM
loco is not loco about low carb.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: loco on August 03, 2023, 12:44:14 PM
loco is not loco about low carb.

 :D
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on August 04, 2023, 07:10:15 AM
If not meat, do you eat only plant-based junk food then?  Because in order to do plant-based right according to plant-based doctors and gurus, you'll have to buy and eat lots of organic produce, which ain't cheap.  You don't have to go organic, but then you'll be consuming a ton of pesticides.  You'll also have to spend on supplements such as B12, Zinc, Calcium, etc.

Since I switched to an animal-based diet, I've saved significantly not only on food, but on medications, doctors visits, and supplements I no longer need.

Nope, the only processed/prepared foods I eat are block tofu, whey powder, yogurt, and cheese.  Everything else is just individual ingredients that I prepare.  I don’t think those “plant based” prepared foods are any healthier than their meat-containing counterparts.

At least half of my meals are a scoop of whey, a spoonful of nut butter, and 1-2 pieces of fruit.  If I find a plant-based protein powder that is as drinkable as whey, I’d switch but they’ve all been thick and gritty.  Otherwise it’s all beans, fruits, vegetables, and grains.

It’s a common misconception that organic produce isn’t grown with pesticides. They are, just with “organic-based” pesticides.  In some cases, such as with citrus, the organic fruit uses the same pesticides as the conventional.  As to the need for supplementation, that’s not the case unless you are strict vegan which i am not.  I even eat meat a couple times a month, I just cut down my consumption drastically from my bodybuilding days (oh brother)

Glad to hear your diet is working for you, I wish you continued good health and well-being in the future.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: IroNat on August 04, 2023, 07:43:45 AM
Nope, the only processed/prepared foods I eat are block tofu, whey powder, yogurt, and cheese.  Everything else is just individual ingredients that I prepare.  I don’t think those “plant based” prepared foods are any healthier than their meat-containing counterparts.

At least half of my meals are a scoop of whey, a spoonful of nut butter, and 1-2 pieces of fruit.  If I find a plant-based protein powder that is as drinkable as whey, I’d switch but they’ve all been thick and gritty.  Otherwise it’s all beans, fruits, vegetables, and grains.

It’s a common misconception that organic produce isn’t grown with pesticides. They are, just with “organic-based” pesticides.  In some cases, such as with citrus, the organic fruit uses the same pesticides as the conventional.  As to the need for supplementation, that’s not the case unless you are strict vegan which i am not.  I even eat meat a couple times a month, I just cut down my consumption drastically from my bodybuilding days (oh brother)

Glad to hear your diet is working for you, I wish you continued good health and well-being in the future.

Truth.

Pesticide residue also remains in the soil for many years, particularly arsenic based pesticides.

"Organic" is a marketing gimmick, especially lucrative for small farms.

There is no substantiated health benefit to organic foods, but you pay a lot more.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: falco on August 04, 2023, 08:33:11 AM
Beer and pasta is all one needs.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: IroNat on August 04, 2023, 11:09:41 AM
Beer and pasta is all one needs.

...and eggs.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Taffin on August 04, 2023, 11:19:33 AM
Beer and pasta is all one needs.

...and eggs.

Add an ignition source to that combo and you're also gonna need welding masks  ;D

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Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: loco on August 05, 2023, 07:05:34 AM
Nope, the only processed/prepared foods I eat are block tofu, whey powder, yogurt, and cheese.  Everything else is just individual ingredients that I prepare.  I don’t think those “plant based” prepared foods are any healthier than their meat-containing counterparts.

At least half of my meals are a scoop of whey, a spoonful of nut butter, and 1-2 pieces of fruit.  If I find a plant-based protein powder that is as drinkable as whey, I’d switch but they’ve all been thick and gritty.  Otherwise it’s all beans, fruits, vegetables, and grains.

It’s a common misconception that organic produce isn’t grown with pesticides. They are, just with “organic-based” pesticides.  In some cases, such as with citrus, the organic fruit uses the same pesticides as the conventional.  As to the need for supplementation, that’s not the case unless you are strict vegan which i am not.  I even eat meat a couple times a month, I just cut down my consumption drastically from my bodybuilding days (oh brother)

Glad to hear your diet is working for you, I wish you continued good health and well-being in the future.

Yeah, I should have been more specific and said chemical pesticides as opposed to organic.  But as you said regarding fruit, and as IroNat said regarding all things "organic", it's most likely a marketing gimmick.

Sorry!  No idea why I thought you were vegan.  My mistake.

Thanks very much for the well wishes.  I wish you the same.
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Kwon on August 05, 2023, 07:10:10 AM
Prefer Meatbased diet over plantbased

Feels more Chunky in the mouth when eating
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Tapeworm on August 05, 2023, 07:24:59 AM
based

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Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: JackTheRipper on August 05, 2023, 07:27:24 AM
Prefer Meatbased diet over plantbased

Feels more Chunky in the mouth when eating

you´re a fucking weirdo  ???
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: GymnJuice on August 05, 2023, 11:13:17 AM
Prefer Meatbased diet over plantbased

Feels more Chunky in the mouth when eating

This is all just speculation until Shizzo confirms  ;D
Title: Re: Meat Vs plant based diet
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 06, 2023, 12:36:46 AM
Prefer Meatbased diet over plantbased

Feels more Chunky in the mouth when eating
Chunky animal muscle.