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Title: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Kwon on August 28, 2023, 11:39:28 AM
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Mayday on August 28, 2023, 01:11:56 PM


In order to win women’s sporting events…..

:D
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 28, 2023, 01:33:09 PM
Only liberal men are becoming/are weaker
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: ziballz on August 28, 2023, 01:42:54 PM
Hard to take some flamer named Jake Trans seriously   ::)


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Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: illuminati on August 28, 2023, 01:44:36 PM
Only liberal men are becoming/are weaker

Yes - The MSM / Talking heads listening Sheep 🐑  & Clowns 🤡
Are most Definitely.

Load of Ponce's 🤬🤬🤬
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 28, 2023, 01:46:37 PM
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Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: mops on August 28, 2023, 05:35:16 PM
Men are becoming weaker because life is becoming easier

Stop overthinking this crap

First world problems....
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Matt on August 28, 2023, 07:06:49 PM
Men are becoming weaker because life is becoming easier

Stop overthinking this crap

First world problems....

Does that alone explain a 50% drop in the average testosterone level and 50% drop in the average sperm count level over the past 50 years?
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: illuminati on August 28, 2023, 07:13:28 PM
Does that alone explain a 50% drop in the average testosterone level and 50% drop in the average sperm count level over the past 50 years?

Chemicals in food / fertilisers
Oestrogen in drinking water
Deranged Libturdia Infested Brains
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Matt on August 28, 2023, 09:42:48 PM
Chemicals in food / fertilisers
Oestrogen in drinking water
Deranged Libturdia Infested Brains

I would think so.

It's not just modernization and technology.

Birth control pills flushed in the toilet that end up in our drinking water, as an example of that. I'm sure these things play a role.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: mops on August 28, 2023, 10:27:25 PM
Does that alone explain a 50% drop in the average testosterone level and 50% drop in the average sperm count level over the past 50 years?

In a way, I think it does, yes.

Obviously, environemental factors play a big role in the drop of testosterone levels in men ( mainly endocrine perturbators.)

But I think we ignore the many psychogenic factors that play a big role in today's loss of men's masculinity.

The brain wiring of first world men is VERY different from what it was 50 years ago.
Nowadays, your brain is conditioned to react differently to external stimuli.

This phenomenon is partly due to the comfortable/spoiled lifestyle of today - times have become easier as many goods/machines/services replaced a lot of the things our pops used to do themselves. Brain chemistry adapted to this raise of standards of living.

Also, people today have access to unlimited sources of enjoyement, which severly disturbs, impacts their dopaminergic system.

Imagine it like a dopamine wave pool ( I stole that one from Dr. Kyle Gillett) - there are natural ups and downs of your dopamine levels/motivation ( the pursuit of the reward/ the ability to focuse our attention on outward goals — the things we want)
In the wave pool, depending on how high the peak is, you often habe a deeper throve, so you do not want too high of a peak. Most importantly, if your peak is extremely high ( from substance abuse for ex), you lose almost all the water in the wave pool, and then when you crash, not only is the throve low, you have less dopamine in the pool to begin with.
Dopamine receptors are extremely sensitive, meaning the depth of the pool can change really quickly, so you wanna have that happy medium where your are fairly near the top but not so near the top that the depth of the pool is going to go down.

At the same time, your role and duties as a man are decreased and discouraged. A strong, unhealthy emphasize is put on your emotions. Repeating relentlessly that your do have FEELINGS and that they matter ! This leaves the door open to many "imaginary" mental illnesses, excuses and victimization, instead of the masculine concepts of accountability and responsibility.

Combine all these factors tohether and you get big fat, entitled crybabies with absolutely zero emotional or physical RESILIENCE.

Male drive, motivation, positive aggression, physicality and dominance are all destroyed with psycho-social tactical nukes.

Im no endocrinologist, but I cant imagine it has no influence on our hormonal profile.

Again, first-fucking-world problems

Just my opinion
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: BlackMetallic on August 28, 2023, 10:31:42 PM
Only liberal men are becoming/are weaker

My wife told me she had a lesbian experience once before we met

I said I’m listening

She said she hugged a liberal male
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Matt on August 28, 2023, 11:09:47 PM
In a way, I think it does, yes.

Obviously, environemental factors play a role in the drop of testosterone levels in men ( mainly endocrine perturbators.)

But I think we ignore the many psychogenic sources that play a big role in today's emasculation of men.

The brain wiring of first world men is VERY different what it was 50 years ago.

Nowadays, your brain is conditioned to react differently to external stimuli.

This phenomenon is partly due to the comfortable/spoiled lifestyle of today - the world has become softer and the brain adapted.

Also, people today have access to unlimited sources of enjoyement, which severly disturbs, impacts their dopaminergic system.

Imagine it like a dopamine wave pool ( I stole that one from Dr. Kyle Gillett) - there are natural ups and downs of your dopamine levels/motivation ( the pursuit of the reward/ the ability to focuse our attention on outward goals — the things we want)
In the wave pool, depending on how high the peak is, you often habe a deeper throve, so you do not want too high of a peak. Most importantly, if your peak is extremely high ( from substance abuse for ex), you lose almost all the water in the wave pool, and then when you crash, not only is the throve low, you have less dopamine in the pool to begin with.
Dopamine receptors are extremely sensitive, meaning the depth of the pool can change really quickly, so you wanna have that happy medium where your are fairly near the top but not so near the top that the depth of the pool is going to go down.

At the same time, your role and duties as a man are decreased and discouraged. A strong, unhealthy emphasize is put on your emotions. Repeating relentlessly that your do have FEELINGS and that they matter ! This leaves the door open to many "imaginary" mental illnesses, excuses and victimization, instead of the masculine concepts of accountability and responsibility.

Combine all these factors tohether and you get a big fat, entitled crybabies with absolutely zero emotional or physical RESILIENCE.

Male drive, motivation, positive aggression, physicality and dominance are all destroyed with psycho-social tactical nukes.

Im no endocrinologist, but I cant imagine it has no influence on our hormonal profile.

Again, first-fucking-world problems

Just my opinion

Thanks for expanding on that, mops. You have given me something to think about.

My training partner told me we eat something like 1/5th of a credit card worth of plastic per month. Presumably that plays a role?

Would you say the psychological factors play a hyper-majority role, or that environmental toxins play no role?

There is a man at my gym from Ghana [same as IFBB pro Eddie Abbew], who was able to lift more than me on this chest press machine:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwhGW8Ksjzf/

I was very impressed. I'm fairly certain he's a little older than I am, and in good shape [nice guy too - a nurse from Toronto, via Ghana], but I rarely see anyone do that machine loaded.

He has big triceps, and that probably helps doing it with the hammer grip. But when he loaded it up and did ~6-8 reps...it was surprising.

One thing that came to my mind:
Recent African evolution actually bodes better for producing higher testosterone males. Under the first world environmental conditions you mentioned, it shouldn't be a shock that White men are seeing such a drastic reduction in T levels.

That said, a 50% drop in ~50 years is wild. It's almost like we're evolving to be a totally different kind of human...and in ultra fast time by evolutionary standards.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: _bruce_ on August 28, 2023, 11:12:31 PM
Men are becoming weaker because life is becoming easier

Stop overthinking this crap

First world problems....

There's way more to it.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 29, 2023, 12:08:28 AM
Has little to nothing to do with food or chemicals in the food/water. If it was this everyone would be getting the same results. Only Lib males get these results. It is all caused from propaganda.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Spike on August 29, 2023, 06:03:36 AM
if I dont use fluoride toothpaste or at least that listerene with fluoride in it at least 3xs a week my teeth start hurting and I feel where I had fillings


when I was tripping balls I tried all this shit - I think NOT using fluoride makes you a weak bitch - same people saying this are the ones using SOY everything - and eat vegetable oil burgers

heavy metal poisoning is a bad thing - mercury in fish , exposure to that shit is terrible

but there is a large discrepancy between CONSUMING fluoride to where ti enters you GI track in large amounts and exposing your teeth to the shit to increase calcium ionic bonding or whatever
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: residue on August 29, 2023, 07:07:52 AM
Only liberal men are becoming/are weaker


i bet i'm stronger than you are
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: illuminati on August 29, 2023, 07:35:55 AM

i bet i'm stronger than you are


What age are you & bodyweight
& post your poundages

I'll post mine at same age
Bodyweight maybe different & is a Factor.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: residue on August 29, 2023, 07:43:08 AM

What age are you & bodyweight
& post your poundages

I'll post mine at same age
Bodyweight maybe different & is a Factor.


Oh i'm not a world eater, my best meet total is something pretty unremarkable at 1655, when i competed i was 6'2 210(ish)
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 29, 2023, 07:46:16 AM

i bet i'm stronger than you are

If you’re going to make claims towards a known poster, back it up with pics and vids.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: illuminati on August 29, 2023, 08:14:01 AM

Oh i'm not a world eater, my best meet total is something pretty unremarkable at 1655, when i competed i was 6'2 210(ish)

Very Decent poundage !!



My poundages at around 90+kg Raw just lifting belt.
These probably my strongest lifts though have lifted more at heavier bodyweight
 

285kg squat - 630lbs
215/20kg bench - 485lbs
270kg deadlift - 595lbs

Many other poundages at lighter Bodyweights
that I'd also consider as strong lifts. 
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: residue on August 29, 2023, 08:18:35 AM
Very Decent poundage !!



My poundages at around 90+kg Raw just lifting belt.
These probably my strongest lifts though have lifted more at heavier bodyweight
 

285kg squat - 630lbs
215/20kg bench - 485lbs
270kg deadlift - 595lbs

Many other poundages at lighter Bodyweights
that I'd also consider as strong lifts.


that's insane at that bw. I could never get the benching down, 8 years ago everyone was big into arching and arching would always lead to an incredibly painful back cramp with me especially on the thicker comp benches
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: illuminati on August 29, 2023, 08:27:50 AM

that's insane at that bw. I could never get the benching down, 8 years ago everyone was big into arching and arching would always lead to an incredibly painful back cramp with me especially on the thicker comp benches

Thank's

I look back & wish I'd hit PED's hard - I may of got close to the magical
10x body weigh - Ahhh The what if syndrome  ;D

At much lighter body weight I had a good arch - benching 185kg at 75kg BW.

Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: IroNat on August 29, 2023, 08:42:48 AM
Fact Check: Have Testosterone Levels Fallen 1% Every Year Since 1980?

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-have-testosterone-levels-fallen-1-every-year-since-1980-1738976

Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 29, 2023, 08:48:26 AM
Apparently, being a fat fvck adversely affects test levels:



Obesity: Unhealthy and Unmanly - Harvard Health Publications - Harvard Health

https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/obesity-unhealthy-and-unmanly



Obesity lowers testosterone levels. For example, a 2007 study of 1,667 men ages 40 and above found that each one-point increase in BMI was associated with a 2% decrease in testosterone. In addition, a 2008 study of 1,862 men ages 30 and above found that waist circumference was an even stronger predictor of low testosterone levels than BMI. A four-inch increase in waist size increased a man's odds of having a low testosterone level by 75%; for comparison, 10 years of aging increased the odds by only 36%. All in all, waist circumference was the strongest single predictor of developing symptoms of testosterone deficiency. And if you doubt these two American studies, just consider Australian research that found almost one in every seven obese men could benefit from testosterone replacement, a rate more than four times higher than in nonobese men.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: IroNat on August 29, 2023, 11:00:48 AM
Statins also can lower test.

High carb diets can increase estrogen, make you fat and give you Type 2 diabetes.

Being fat is a symptom really.  If you are fat you are doing someting wrong.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: mops on August 29, 2023, 11:16:01 AM
Thanks for expanding on that, mops. You have given me something to think about.

My training partner told me we eat something like 1/5th of a credit card worth of plastic per month. Presumably that plays a role?

Would you say the psychological factors play a hyper-majority role, or that environmental toxins play no role?

There is a man at my gym from Ghana [same as IFBB pro Eddie Abbew], who was able to lift more than me on this chest press machine:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwhGW8Ksjzf/

I was very impressed. I'm fairly certain he's a little older than I am, and in good shape [nice guy too - a nurse from Toronto, via Ghana], but I rarely see anyone do that machine loaded.

He has big triceps, and that probably helps doing it with the hammer grip. But when he loaded it up and did ~6-8 reps...it was surprising.

One thing that came to my mind:
Recent African evolution actually bodes better for producing higher testosterone males. Under the first world environmental conditions you mentioned, it shouldn't be a shock that White men are seeing such a drastic reduction in T levels.

That said, a 50% drop in ~50 years is wild. It's almost like we're evolving to be a totally different kind of human...and in ultra fast time by evolutionary standards.



Matt, there is no denying that environmental factors play a role in all of this.

I recently read an interesting book on this topic : Estrogeneration: How Estrogenics Are Making You Fat, Sick, and Infertile - Dr. Anthony G. Jay

Quote
The devastating truth about a class of chemicals called "estrogenics" and how your daily exposures can cause weight-gains, depression, infertility and many other exploding health problems.

In this book, Dr. Anthony G. Jay offers a clear and honest look at:

THE Top 10 List of Everyday Estrogenics

•Cutting-Edge Weight-Loss Strategies
•New Muscle-Mass Building Discoveries
•How Estrogenics "Feminize" Males
•How Estrogenics Harm Children
•3 Detailed Estrogenic Avoidance Plans
•Specific Food/Water Estrogenic Numbers
•Simple Clear Language and Definitions
•The US and EU Legal Status of Estrogenics
•A Direct Exposé on Scientific Bias
•Brand New Epigenetics Discoveries
•Amazing Fishing "Tail" Chapter Openers

An Actionable Summary Appendixe
And much, much MORE...




Also, the gut is full of neurons, so it's not surprising that bad dietary habits directly influence our mental health.




Regardless of hormone levels, I think there is mostly an attitude problem among modern men. No need to check T levels to notice it or use it as an excuse.

Bodybuilders have supraphysiological levels of androgens, yet they are the biggest bitches I have ever seen.


My main point is that modern psychogenic factors disrupt masculine behaviors.
Neural functions such as emotions, decision making, perception are inhibited.

In short, men passively train their brains to become less masculine. In response, their endocrine system may negatively adapt. Hormones such as testosterone can crash, while others may rise.

Notice how you always hear :"be a man ! Act like a real man. Man-up"
I have yet to hear something similar for women

Emotional resilience, and the act of training your brain to avoid negative thought processes that trigger mental problems in patients is an interesting approach.

Why not apply it to men who struggle with sissiness ?

That's my personal idea, nothing more.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 29, 2023, 11:16:25 AM
Fact Check: Have Testosterone Levels Fallen 1% Every Year Since 1980?

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-have-testosterone-levels-fallen-1-every-year-since-1980-1738976

Newsweek fact check is agenda driven. They start the article by taking a swipe at Tucker as expected since they are all in with Democrats and the liberal agenda. While I'm sure the facts lie between testosterone is diving and testosterone is the same as it's always been.

I think it's  down in general because men are softer. Most guys don't work a manual labor job. How many men are obese? It's staggering just by looking at a crowd.  It's also true most guys do not see them self as fat even if they could lose 40lbs. Look at the photos from the early 40's, 50's and early 60's. Hard to find a fat guy.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 29, 2023, 12:25:37 PM
My wife told me she had a lesbian experience once before we met

I said I’m listening

She said she hugged a liberal male

Ha!

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Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2023, 12:25:52 PM
Look at someone like Obama!   Case closed. 
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: illuminati on August 29, 2023, 01:37:24 PM
Look at someone like Obama!   Case closed.

Exactly 👊🏻

A Very Weak effeminate man
Just how do others vote / elect that as a Leader  ::)

Worlds completely screwed up.
🤡 World
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 29, 2023, 05:15:33 PM

Does that alone explain a 50% drop in the average testosterone level and 50% drop in the average sperm count level over the past 50 years?

Without "researching" it, a 50% drop in test levels just doesn't sound right. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it has increased overall. Would have to know how they collected the samples, the country/area, the race etc, a bunch of stuff. I think one important thing for testosterone is good food and even calories. As long as you don't get fat. So especially in poorer times there was a problem with malnutrition. Today kids get to puberty much earlier than in the past and the reason is more nutrients/calories (not "hormone" treated milk or meat). I bet someone has fact checked this claim but I'm too lazy to go look.

I haven't "researched" the impact of plastics/estrogens either but they are blamed for the drop in test. I don't think that's obviously true, but maybe they are. But I doubt it's easy to determine for sure.

Bodybuilding related: some bodybuilders understand that estrogen can be pro-anabolic, there is a trend for less antiestrogen use lately. Some have even tried taking synthetic estrogens.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 29, 2023, 05:39:57 PM
Fact Check: Have Testosterone Levels Fallen 1% Every Year Since 1980?

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-have-testosterone-levels-fallen-1-every-year-since-1980-1738976

Didn't see this before I posted. The article sounds reasonable, the claimed reductions haven't been verified well enough.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2023, 09:42:35 PM
That vid is way short on data to support the claims made. It reeks of hucksterism.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: kh300 on August 29, 2023, 09:57:25 PM
In a way we're just getting weaker because of advances. I just completed a 160 mile through hike. My pack with tent and sleeping bag was under 10 pounds, thanks to all the advancement in materials. 30 years ago 50 pounds was light.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Kwon on August 29, 2023, 10:45:37 PM
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: _bruce_ on August 29, 2023, 11:21:00 PM
Hormones or not - men have become more meek and docile.

When I was a teenager there used to be many dudes you had to be cautious with and they would often fight anybody. In the earlier 90ies this started to fade and the next generation was as good as harmless. There are always odd men who are as aggressive as ten but compared to the late 80ies the "tough guys" have vanished.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 30, 2023, 12:41:07 AM
Hormones or not - men have become more meek and docile.

When I was a teenager there used to be many dudes you had to be cautious with and they would often fight anybody. In the earlier 90ies this started to fade and the next generation was as good as harmless. There are always odd men who are as aggressive as ten but compared to the late 80ies the "tough guys" have vanished.
TV shows like Friends wusified a whole generation of men.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: kreator on August 30, 2023, 03:09:49 AM
The first seven years are crucial. If a kid is still a whinny little b1tch at 7 he'll most likely be one for the rest of his life. It's what he sees and hears  during that period determines his fate. So if he's mostly spending time with his mother and pussified men then you know the rest.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: _bruce_ on August 30, 2023, 03:28:04 AM
TV shows like Friends wusified a whole generation of men.

Absolutely - but it has to be more than social conditioning.
Back then when I was 14 I first talked about this with a close friend of mine who was around 18 at that time. Nearly all the dudes of his peer group(+"evening crew") were aggressive and prone to start fights, while the folks that I knew were literally poodles. This even held true for the people in the various clubs we used to hang out with. There was rarely a fight but when people confronted each other it was only talking or deadly. "Beating each other up and still walking away" was not in style anymore.

Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Kwon on August 30, 2023, 04:24:58 AM
Hormones or not - men have become more meek and docile.

When I was a teenager there used to be many dudes you had to be cautious with and they would often fight anybody. In the earlier 90ies this started to fade and the next generation was as good as harmless. There are always odd men who are as aggressive as ten but compared to the late 80ies the "tough guys" have vanished.

Raised with TV-series like Friends , Seinfeld or Glee tends to turn young men retarded
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 30, 2023, 07:54:18 AM
Men are becoming weaker because men aren’t men anymore.  They don’t work physical jobs, they don’t hunt they don’t do shit. Majority of men sit behind a computer all day, play video games and Jack off to porn.  Are you really shocked why there’s a drop in testosterone? Todays generation of males all want to be females.   Men have become useless.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: residue on August 30, 2023, 08:46:27 AM
Hormones or not - men have become more meek and docile.

When I was a teenager there used to be many dudes you had to be cautious with and they would often fight anybody. In the earlier 90ies this started to fade and the next generation was as good as harmless. There are always odd men who are as aggressive as ten but compared to the late 80ies the "tough guys" have vanished.


You’re really only talking about white and white men in the west. And to be honest white men were always the softest bunch…. They’re never going to be as hard as black men(obviously outliers exist) but we’re talking about savages vs gentle men.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: joswift on August 30, 2023, 10:00:14 AM
Men are becoming weaker because men aren’t men anymore.  They don’t work physical jobs, they don’t hunt they don’t do shit. Majority of men sit behind a computer all day, play video games and Jack off to porn.  Are you really shocked why there’s a drop in testosterone? Todays generation of males all want to be females.   Men have become useless.

Going off into the woods with other men in a tent

Brokeback Mountain esque activity
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 31, 2023, 12:29:35 AM
Going off into the woods with other men in a tent

Brokeback Mountain esque activity
It's only gay if you want it to be. :-X
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: kreator on August 31, 2023, 12:37:47 AM
It's only gay if you want it to be. :-X

It's only gay if you don't get paid for it
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 31, 2023, 12:53:02 AM
It's only gay if you don't get paid for it
:-\ :-[
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: IroNat on August 31, 2023, 05:54:32 AM
Men are becoming weaker because men aren’t men anymore.  They don’t work physical jobs, they don’t hunt they don’t do shit. Majority of men sit behind a computer all day, play video games and Jack off to porn.  Are you really shocked why there’s a drop in testosterone? Todays generation of males all want to be females.   Men have become useless.

I thought this raised test levels?
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: mops on August 31, 2023, 10:01:59 AM
I thought this raised test levels?

Cumming actually raises prolactin levels

Prolactin then lowers LH and FSH
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: illuminati on August 31, 2023, 05:02:35 PM

You’re really only talking about white and white men in the west. And to be honest white men were always the softest bunch…. They’re never going to be as hard as black men(obviously outliers exist) but we’re talking about savages vs gentle men.


Thats why the White man totally owned the blacks in their own countries  ::)
So much for them being hard men.

Look at many fighting sports its all white Eastern Europeans winning mainly.
The best 2 heavyweight boxers are white men & have destroyed several tough
Black men easily on route to get there.

Try again - maybe stick to they're the best sprinters & I'd agree.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: residue on September 01, 2023, 07:48:16 AM

Thats why the White man totally owned the blacks in their own countries  ::)
So much for them being hard men.

Look at many fighting sports its all white Eastern Europeans winning mainly.
The best 2 heavyweight boxers are white men & have destroyed several tough
Black men easily on route to get there.

Try again - maybe stick to they're the best sprinters & I'd agree.
Gyppos aren’t white, they’re north Indians.


You can easily own someone if you have guns and they don’t, don’t you need an abundance of testosterone to lift gun. Americans have always been thought of as soft, ask anyone not from America. Y’all just have the biggest guns and bombs



Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: illuminati on September 01, 2023, 08:10:12 AM
Gyppos aren’t white, they’re north Indians.


You can easily own someone if you have guns and they don’t, don’t you need an abundance of testosterone to lift gun. Americans have always been thought of as soft, ask anyone not from America. Y’all just have the biggest guns and bombs

Not much of answer is it really.

WTF you on about Gyppos for ??


So not only are we whites Better & stronger we're clearly much more mentally
advanced than Blacks or they'd have invented Guns  ::)

Don't take a stick or spear to a Gun fight.  ;D

HTH
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: residue on September 01, 2023, 08:14:58 AM
Not much of answer is it really.

WTF you on about Gyppos for ??


So not only are we whites Better & stronger we're clearly much more mentally
advanced than Blacks or they'd have invented Guns  ::)

Don't take a stick or spear to a Gun fight.  ;D

HTH


the chinese invented guns.


you said the best 2 heavyweights are white
whats on his waist?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/19/10/14979406-0-image-a-4_1560937806284.jpg)
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: illuminati on September 01, 2023, 08:49:19 PM

the chinese invented guns.


you said the best 2 heavyweights are white
whats on his waist?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/19/10/14979406-0-image-a-4_1560937806284.jpg)


The white man used them to rule of the Blacks & Take All they wanted.
Why didn't the oh so intelligent blacks have guns instead of sticks  ::)

What colour is his skin ?
And usyk Ukrainian White - neither of them are Blacks.

Try something else.   ;D
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: mops on September 02, 2023, 09:10:50 AM
Something can also be said about androgen receptor polymorphism. Each individual does not possess the exact same androgen receptors

This is a crucial point regarding testosterone and, broadly speaking, androgen sensitivity.

The gene encoding androgen receptors is polymorphic. Polymorphims in genetics means that several variations of a specific DNA sequence can occur among different individuals or populations.

Each individual will produce a slightly different kind of androgen receptors depending on it's codon repeats.

A codon is a DNA sequence of 3 nucleotides.
Nucleotides are molecules composed of a sugar, a phosphate and, most importantly, a base ( Adenine, Thymine, Cytosine, Guanine - abbreviated A,T,C,G)

Now here's the thing, the genetic sequence coding for androgen receptors is composed of C-A-G codon repeats. ( Cytosine - Adenine - Guanine )

In normal people, the CAG repeats can range from 6 to 39 ( in other words, this code can be repeated 6 times up to 39 times to produce an androgen receptor.)



My point is that there are two kinds of people in this world :

• Those with short CAG repeats ( up to 23 repeats.) They are the most sensitive to androgen action, and consequently are typically more masculine, both in terms of appearance and personality.
• Those with long repeats ( from 23 to 39 ). Those folks are typically less androgen sensitive. Estrogen production also tends to be higher in men with long CAG repeats....




There were 2,5 billion people in the world in 1950. Today, where are ~ 8 billion.

A wider gene pool, higher standards of living and negative natural selection ( the "weak" survive and reproduce more often) could partially explain why men are supposedly becoming weaker


Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: IroNat on September 02, 2023, 09:15:40 AM
Something can also be said about androgen receptor polymorphism. Each individual does not possess the exact same androgen receptors

This is a crucial point regarding testosterone and, broadly speaking, androgen sensitivity.

The gene encoding androgen receptors is polymorphic. Polymorphims in genetics means that several variations of a specific DNA sequence can occur among different individuals or populations.

Each individual will produce a slightly different kind of androgen receptors depending on it's codon repeats.

A codon is a DNA sequence of 3 nucleotides.
Nucleotides are molecules composed of a sugar, a phosphate and, most importantly, a base ( Adenine, Thymine, Cytosine, Guanine - abbreviated A,T,C,G)

Now here's the thing, the genetic sequence coding for androgen receptors is composed of C-A-G codon repeats. ( Cytosine - Adenine - Guanine )

In normal people, the CAG repeats can range from 6 to 39 ( in other words, this code can be repeated 6 times up to 39 times to produce an androgen receptor.)



My point is that there are two kinds of people in this world :

• Those with short CAG repeats ( up to 23 repeats.) They are the most sensitive to androgen action, and consequently are typically more masculine, both in terms of appearance and personality.
• Those with long repeats ( from 23 to 39 ). Those folks are typically less androgen sensitive. Estrogen production also tends to be higher in men with long CAG repeats....




There were 2,5 billion people in the world in 1950. Today, where are ~ 8 billion.

A wider gene pool, higher standards of living and negative natural selection ( the "weak" survive and reproduce more often) could partially explain why men are supposedly becoming weaker




It all sounds logical.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 03, 2023, 12:04:19 AM
Something can also be said about androgen receptor polymorphism. Each individual does not possess the exact same androgen receptors

This is a crucial point regarding testosterone and, broadly speaking, androgen sensitivity.

The gene encoding androgen receptors is polymorphic. Polymorphims in genetics means that several variations of a specific DNA sequence can occur among different individuals or populations.

Each individual will produce a slightly different kind of androgen receptors depending on it's codon repeats.

A codon is a DNA sequence of 3 nucleotides.
Nucleotides are molecules composed of a sugar, a phosphate and, most importantly, a base ( Adenine, Thymine, Cytosine, Guanine - abbreviated A,T,C,G)

Now here's the thing, the genetic sequence coding for androgen receptors is composed of C-A-G codon repeats. ( Cytosine - Adenine - Guanine )

In normal people, the CAG repeats can range from 6 to 39 ( in other words, this code can be repeated 6 times up to 39 times to produce an androgen receptor.)



My point is that there are two kinds of people in this world :

• Those with short CAG repeats ( up to 23 repeats.) They are the most sensitive to androgen action, and consequently are typically more masculine, both in terms of appearance and personality.
• Those with long repeats ( from 23 to 39 ). Those folks are typically less androgen sensitive. Estrogen production also tends to be higher in men with long CAG repeats....




There were 2,5 billion people in the world in 1950. Today, where are ~ 8 billion.

A wider gene pool, higher standards of living and negative natural selection ( the "weak" survive and reproduce more often) could partially explain why men are supposedly becoming weaker

Dating apps will correct all this.
Title: Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
Post by: _bruce_ on September 03, 2023, 12:32:20 AM
Something can also be said about androgen receptor polymorphism. Each individual does not possess the exact same androgen receptors

This is a crucial point regarding testosterone and, broadly speaking, androgen sensitivity.

The gene encoding androgen receptors is polymorphic. Polymorphims in genetics means that several variations of a specific DNA sequence can occur among different individuals or populations.

Each individual will produce a slightly different kind of androgen receptors depending on it's codon repeats.

A codon is a DNA sequence of 3 nucleotides.
Nucleotides are molecules composed of a sugar, a phosphate and, most importantly, a base ( Adenine, Thymine, Cytosine, Guanine - abbreviated A,T,C,G)

Now here's the thing, the genetic sequence coding for androgen receptors is composed of C-A-G codon repeats. ( Cytosine - Adenine - Guanine )

In normal people, the CAG repeats can range from 6 to 39 ( in other words, this code can be repeated 6 times up to 39 times to produce an androgen receptor.)



My point is that there are two kinds of people in this world :

• Those with short CAG repeats ( up to 23 repeats.) They are the most sensitive to androgen action, and consequently are typically more masculine, both in terms of appearance and personality.
• Those with long repeats ( from 23 to 39 ). Those folks are typically less androgen sensitive. Estrogen production also tends to be higher in men with long CAG repeats....




There were 2,5 billion people in the world in 1950. Today, where are ~ 8 billion.

A wider gene pool, higher standards of living and negative natural selection ( the "weak" survive and reproduce more often) could partially explain why men are supposedly becoming weaker


You're well read for a dog.