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Title: Are we in a recession?
Post by: tacobender on September 19, 2023, 08:46:33 PM
What are your thoughts gentlemen? It seems as if the last three weeks for my business at least it has totally hit the wall just so suddenly kind of weird I know inflation is killing everybody. Gas prices are up again it’s just weird how it’s happening so suddenly.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on September 19, 2023, 08:51:20 PM
What are your thoughts gentlemen? It seems as if the last three weeks for my business at least it has totally hit the wall just so suddenly kind of weird I know inflation is killing everybody. Gas prices are up again it’s just weird how it’s happening so suddenly.

Stick with it, gloryhole traffic will pick up again in the fall and after a few throat fulls you will be able to pay your bills.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: tacobender on September 19, 2023, 08:55:01 PM
Stick with it, gloryhole traffic will pick up again in the fall and after a few throat fulls you will be able to pay your bills.
I can pay mine I’m just tired of your lady hassling me for few bucks because every time I get through fucking her she makes me a sandwich. Lunchmeat ain’t cheap my friend. And neither is watching her wipe the mayo dripping down her chin
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on September 19, 2023, 08:59:34 PM
I can pay mine I’m just tired of your lady hassling me for few bucks because every time I get through fucking her she makes me a sandwich. Lunchmeat ain’t cheap my friend. And neither is watching her wipe the mayo dripping down her chin
Only thing you’re fucking is this….

Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: tacobender on September 19, 2023, 10:05:52 PM
Only thing you’re fucking is this….
probly not like your wife get off my dick
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on September 19, 2023, 11:29:58 PM
probly not like your wife get off my dick

You should impress everyone with more of your Taco Bell diarrhea jokes.

Cum belching closet homo.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 20, 2023, 12:05:33 AM
Recessions and depressions don't effect Getbiggers but yes, it's bad out here.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Mayday on September 20, 2023, 12:10:20 AM


No.

Stop being a spastic.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Gym Rat on September 20, 2023, 12:56:13 AM
Recessions and depressions don't effect Getbiggers but yes, it's bad out here.

BUt the commie shitter says everythings fine???

And that he grew up in Black churches??

And Hunter is the smartest guy he knows??

And he fought for blacks in the civil rights movement...

And...
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 20, 2023, 01:45:20 AM
BUt the commie shitter says everythings fine???

And that he grew up in Black churches??

And Hunter is the smartest guy he knows??

And he fought for blacks in the civil rights movement...

And...
I know. He says a lot of things.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: MAXX on September 20, 2023, 02:00:54 AM
probably

cost of living is higher than ever in the western modern times is my understanding. That is a recession imo.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Royalty on September 20, 2023, 04:02:39 AM
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Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: youandme on September 20, 2023, 04:08:49 AM
Definitely seeing it now. I don’t care what the government says on inflation it’s much higher than they say. Gas prices are only going to get worse when winter hits.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: GymnJuice on September 20, 2023, 04:11:43 AM
Definitely seeing it now. I don’t care what the government says on inflation it’s much higher than they say. Gas prices are only going to get worse when winter hits.

Agree. We manipulate our numbers the same as other countries.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Mayday on September 20, 2023, 04:48:46 AM
probably

cost of living is higher than ever in the western modern times is my understanding. That is a recession imo.

It’s 2 successive negative GDP quarters.

People have become dumber and are currently making up their own meaning of recession.

Economy is very strong. Business earnings looking good. Profitability looking very nice heading into 2024.

Hate to disappoint but recession may not hit until 2027…..
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: IroNat on September 20, 2023, 04:59:58 AM
If your neighbor loses his job it's a recession.

If you lose your job it's a depression.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 20, 2023, 05:45:17 AM
It’s 2 successive negative GDP quarters.

People have become dumber and are currently making up their own meaning of recession.

Economy is very strong. Business earnings looking good. Profitability looking very nice heading into 2024.

Hate to disappoint but recession may not hit until 2027…..


Right after the election. Govt makes up every number required until then.

Those of us in small business know what is going on.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: 20inch calves on September 20, 2023, 05:47:46 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Mayday on September 20, 2023, 05:59:12 AM

Right after the election. Govt makes up every number required until then.

Those of us in small business know what is going on.

recession is clearly defined. GDP looks great.

Businesses suffer even in the boom times. Case in point businesses closed up during 2021, the largest boom time of our generation.

The world is changing. One sector suffering and another is booming. We have full employment, best wage increases of our generation and highest home equity in decades. Then everyone claims recession lol.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 20, 2023, 06:12:53 AM
recession is clearly defined. GDP looks great.

Businesses suffer even in the boom times. Case in point businesses closed up during 2021, the largest boom time of our generation.

The world is changing. One sector suffering and another is booming. We have full employment, best wage increases of our generation and highest home equity in decades. Then everyone claims recession lol.


I wouldn't be so quick to brag about an economy based on 5 trillion in money printing/stimmy.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Mayday on September 20, 2023, 01:40:49 PM

I wouldn't be so quick to brag about an economy based on 5 trillion in money printing/stimmy.

The point I am making is the metrics exist for a reason.

When the system monetises debt, we all lose purchasing power. We all consume less.

If someone hates paying more interest on a mortgage it means someone hates paying more for interest on a mortgage. Not a recession.

We have started the 2nd wave now which is the one to give people a reality check. All things I pre warned in 2021 - buy your wants because you won’t have money left to afford them.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: tacobender on September 20, 2023, 05:18:06 PM
The point I am making is the metrics exist for a reason.

When the system monetises debt, we all lose purchasing power. We all consume less.

If someone hates paying more interest on a mortgage it means someone hates paying more for interest on a mortgage. Not a recession.

We have started the 2nd wave now which is the one to give people a reality check. All things I pre warned in 2021 - buy your wants because you won’t have money left to afford them.
no money left to afford , how’s that?
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: honest on September 20, 2023, 05:54:06 PM
The world is changing, were not in a recession but your going backwards, the pandemic and the government response to it not the actual pandemic, has in my opinion unleashed the greatest loss of productivity ever, people are now dumber and lazier and governments and unions still want us to pay them more, the global skill shortage is due to this in western countries, basically it can be summed up you need 20-30% more people to do what was done previously and as that has created a skill shortage then they want 20-30% more for doing less, its a double whammy on productivity,  if your in business dont hate the game just keep playing it out, charging it out, its economy wide, eventually recession will hit, signs are already there, its already an affordability crisis and governments are rushing to try and subsidise stuff which is just making things worse as usual.

This is just my opinion and whilst I believe it to be consistent across all industries, I work mainly in property development and construction, so my analysis is usually focused there where costs are out of control.  But work from home doesn't work, etc.

Government workers please dont reply, only those who contribute, your lack of productivity and contribution whilst an even greater non contribution post pandemic has always been fairly consistently bad and a drag on capitalism, and nothing will change there your opinions therefore aren't required in a conversation about productivity, the word doesn't exist in the public service marxist handbook.  ;D
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Flexacon on September 20, 2023, 06:45:28 PM
This guys was forced to apologize for this, but he was spitting facts.

Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: ChristopherA on September 20, 2023, 07:21:57 PM
Business is going amazing. Absolutely killing it
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 21, 2023, 12:37:26 AM
Business is going amazing. Absolutely killing it
??? Gay for pay?
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: ChristopherA on September 21, 2023, 04:26:06 AM
??? Gay for pay?
I wish!! LoL residential plumbing and heating
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 21, 2023, 04:34:17 AM
Business is up all over the world.  I have been to 5 different countries this year so far and all of their economies are booming along so far. 
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: tatoo on September 21, 2023, 05:35:21 AM
no complaints w my own businesses.. other than food n fuel costs.. there is a difference though.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Mayday on September 21, 2023, 06:00:34 AM
no money left to afford , how’s that?

Because we will be kept in shortage for a decade which rips prices upwards of everything around you meaning you have less to spend on wants.

Eg A Toyota has a 200 day wait which is 4x the average and it comes with a +40% price increase.

The 2nd wave is the one which truly hits home. Fuel in US should be USD5.70/gallon in wave 2.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Rambone on September 21, 2023, 10:55:24 AM
Business is going amazing. Absolutely killing it

Soiled thongs never go out of style
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Dave D on September 21, 2023, 11:16:53 AM
I daily deal with people who make in excess of low six figures and all they complain about is how expensive everything is.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: joswift on September 21, 2023, 12:13:45 PM
The world is changing, were not in a recession but your going backwards, the pandemic and the government response to it not the actual pandemic, has in my opinion unleashed the greatest loss of productivity ever, people are now dumber and lazier and governments and unions still want us to pay them more, the global skill shortage is due to this in western countries, basically it can be summed up you need 20-30% more people to do what was done previously and as that has created a skill shortage then they want 20-30% more for doing less, its a double whammy on productivity,  if your in business dont hate the game just keep playing it out, charging it out, its economy wide, eventually recession will hit, signs are already there, its already an affordability crisis and governments are rushing to try and subsidise stuff which is just making things worse as usual.

This is just my opinion and whilst I believe it to be consistent across all industries, I work mainly in property development and construction, so my analysis is usually focused there where costs are out of control.  But work from home doesn't work, etc.

Government workers please dont reply, only those who contribute, your lack of productivity and contribution whilst an even greater non contribution post pandemic has always been fairly consistently bad and a drag on capitalism, and nothing will change there your opinions therefore aren't required in a conversation about productivity, the word doesn't exist in the public service marxist handbook.  ;D

Every time a politicians says "due to Covid" I shout "Due to fucking lockdowns"
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Mayday on September 21, 2023, 04:57:03 PM
I daily deal with people who make in excess of low six figures and all they complain about is how expensive everything is.

My experience is people with multiple properties are the loudest complainers of being poor.

Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 21, 2023, 05:10:46 PM
The world is changing, were not in a recession but your going backwards, the pandemic and the government response to it not the actual pandemic, has in my opinion unleashed the greatest loss of productivity ever, people are now dumber and lazier and governments and unions still want us to pay them more, the global skill shortage is due to this in western countries, basically it can be summed up you need 20-30% more people to do what was done previously and as that has created a skill shortage then they want 20-30% more for doing less, its a double whammy on productivity,  if your in business dont hate the game just keep playing it out, charging it out, its economy wide, eventually recession will hit, signs are already there, its already an affordability crisis and governments are rushing to try and subsidise stuff which is just making things worse as usual.

This is just my opinion and whilst I believe it to be consistent across all industries, I work mainly in property development and construction, so my analysis is usually focused there where costs are out of control.  But work from home doesn't work, etc.

Government workers please dont reply, only those who contribute, your lack of productivity and contribution whilst an even greater non contribution post pandemic has always been fairly consistently bad and a drag on capitalism, and nothing will change there your opinions therefore aren't required in a conversation about productivity, the word doesn't exist in the public service marxist handbook.  ;D


A lot of truth being spit here.  Also, that video after this original post dude is spot on. I’m in the construction industry and the last few years while extremely busy, forced some nifty PM on mine or anyone in a similar position. You couldn’t raise rates fast enough to catch up with the increased wage, fuel and construction costs. It was wild for a bit, and still is, because of the reduction in labor force you speak of. I worry about when the other shoe is going to drop, but I’ve got contractual DOT work for he next three years, as well as other normal projects for at least six month. It seems like there’s no end in sight. Strange days indeed.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: tacobender on September 21, 2023, 05:37:20 PM
Definitely strange days weird really
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: honest on September 21, 2023, 05:45:33 PM

A lot of truth being spit here.  Also, that video after this original post dude is spot on. I’m in the construction industry and the last few years while extremely busy, forced some nifty PM on mine or anyone in a similar position. You couldn’t raise rates fast enough to catch up with the increased wage, fuel and construction costs. It was wild for a bit, and still is, because of the reduction in labor force you speak of. I worry about when the other shoe is going to drop, but I’ve got contractual DOT work for he next three years, as well as other normal projects for at least six month. It seems like there’s no end in sight. Strange days indeed.

Material costs are settling down for now, but the manufacturing process costs are very exposed too energy mainly gas at manufacturing level, diesel at logistical and global policy there is going to continue to drive inflation through the false climate narrative, labour is the main issue currently, but it will swing back to energy as soon as labour stabilises, I agree with other commentators here, its here to stay, tough decade ahead.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Mayday on September 21, 2023, 07:12:53 PM


The US says no recession until 2027.

What sheltered view of the world you may have just remember there are industries booming like crazy right now. Sustainability is driving this change.

US 2030 target is zero coal plants and gas power -50% of where you are today. Australia is in El Niño and we knew about a year ago we have a 3yr drought ahead. Nothing unusual but these next 3yrs you will see news about how Australia is burning, no water, no food etc. The truth is we didn’t plant crops or cattle due to inflation but hey…. If the opportunity fits 😀
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: tacobender on September 21, 2023, 07:37:46 PM

The US says no recession until 2027.

What sheltered view of the world you may have just remember there are industries booming like crazy right now. Sustainability is driving this change.

US 2030 target is zero coal plants and gas power -50% of where you are today. Australia is in El Niño and we knew about a year ago we have a 3yr drought ahead. Nothing unusual but these next 3yrs you will see news about how Australia is burning, no water, no food etc. The truth is we didn’t plant crops or cattle due to inflation but hey…. If the opportunity fits 😀
good point
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 22, 2023, 12:47:49 AM
I wish!! LoL residential plumbing and heating
I was wrong on the type of plumbing.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Goliathon on September 22, 2023, 05:11:29 AM
Inflation is a good thing, we need to deflate the power of boomers to restore purchasing power to people who actually  work.

A lot of this so called inflation  is because of things happening outside of north America.

We've rightfully told China to go suck it. In the short term its higher inflation in the long term their bankruptcy will reduce demand for commodities like oil.

High oil is good for american shale industry.

China getting a swift kick in the ass means american manufacturing will boom.

I hate biden but you guys gotta stop being so neurotic. You're embracing a feminine temperament. Men aren't suppose to be afraid of their own shadow.

Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: honest on September 22, 2023, 09:02:22 AM
Inflation is a good thing, we need to deflate the power of boomers to restore purchasing power to people who actually  work.

A lot of this so called inflation  is because of things happening outside of north America.

We've rightfully told China to go suck it. In the short term its higher inflation in the long term their bankruptcy will reduce demand for commodities like oil.

High oil is good for american shale industry.

China getting a swift kick in the ass means american manufacturing will boom.

I hate biden but you guys gotta stop being so neurotic. You're embracing a feminine temperament. Men aren't suppose to be afraid of their own shadow.

Biden and his policies are the architect of inflation. Three trillion dollar green dream, that will do nothing to stop climate change as climate change is a natural occurrence, all it does is push up the price of everything at a time when your trying to bring industry and manufacturing back on shore, Trump called China out and started the trade withdrawal and was called racist by democrats for doing so, lets just stick to the facts. ,   
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: ThisisOverload on September 22, 2023, 08:34:11 PM

A lot of truth being spit here.  Also, that video after this original post dude is spot on. I’m in the construction industry and the last few years while extremely busy, forced some nifty PM on mine or anyone in a similar position. You couldn’t raise rates fast enough to catch up with the increased wage, fuel and construction costs. It was wild for a bit, and still is, because of the reduction in labor force you speak of. I worry about when the other shoe is going to drop, but I’ve got contractual DOT work for he next three years, as well as other normal projects for at least six month. It seems like there’s no end in sight. Strange days indeed.

Plenty of work in heavy civil construction and it isn't going away anytime soon.

The GC's i work with are paying guys an insane amount of money to keep them.

Engineering companies are paying top dollar just to retain decent people. I'm paying Project Managers with 10 years of experience 120-140k just to keep them from leaving.

It's almost impossible to find good people in the civil construction industry right now.

My GC's can't keep up with the work, but are doing quality installations, so we just add a few months to our construction schedules.
  
Crazy times.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Mayday on September 23, 2023, 01:31:52 PM

Huge Automotive strikes going on now over pay rises. The 70s had protests all through it for the same
Thing.

What makes it interesting is its try automotive sector. The one we are essentially phasing out lol 😂 I have cars going 3x price from 2020-2030. We are around +45% and now with protests you will see repair times increase, parts shortages, new car production delays which will only serve to send prices skywards. Cars Should be +100% price in 2027.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: honest on September 23, 2023, 02:28:41 PM
Huge Automotive strikes going on now over pay rises. The 70s had protests all through it for the same
Thing.

What makes it interesting is its try automotive sector. The one we are essentially phasing out lol 😂 I have cars going 3x price from 2020-2030. We are around +45% and now with protests you will see repair times increase, parts shortages, new car production delays which will only serve to send prices skywards. Cars Should be +100% price in 2027.

everything will go the same way, not only are wages going up they are factoring in AI knowing they will be replaced, corporates will allow the wages in the knowledge that it will allow a greater margin once they can phase out human labour, AI is as essential to the future of capitalism as immigration as not only the west also China fail to reproduce themselves as a population, shrinking populations and higher percentages of older people living longer is going to underwrite future labour shortages globally we are in for a wild time going forward as much as I hate it Bigger Government and higher taxes they are coming. 

Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: tacobender on September 23, 2023, 03:44:31 PM
At least your being honest
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Mayday on September 23, 2023, 05:20:52 PM
everything will go the same way, not only are wages going up they are factoring in AI knowing they will be replaced, corporates will allow the wages in the knowledge that it will allow a greater margin once they can phase out human labour, AI is as essential to the future of capitalism as immigration as not only the west also China fail to reproduce themselves as a population, shrinking populations and higher percentages of older people living longer is going to underwrite future labour shortages globally we are in for a wild time going forward as much as I hate it Bigger Government and higher taxes they are coming.

Majority of business is not factoring in AI. Don’t get carried away.That is 2030+ until it’s even remotely usable on a reasonable scale.

AI is hyped the same as drive less cars. I had inside info back in 2015 and knew those were 15yrs+ away because we had data file issues. That’s why Tesla’s system went with cameras yet those still aren’t driverless everywhere……


Nothing is going to play out before 2030. All the AI related things will happen in 2030-2050.

Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: loco on September 23, 2023, 06:59:13 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States

Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 23, 2023, 07:06:24 PM
It’s 2 successive negative GDP quarters.

People have become dumber and are currently making up their own meaning of recession.

Economy is very strong. Business earnings looking good. Profitability looking very nice heading into 2024.

Hate to disappoint but recession may not hit until 2027…..

I had to read that twice. Did you really say the economy is strong?
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Mayday on September 25, 2023, 07:48:52 PM
I had to read that twice. Did you really say the economy is strong?

Yes.

Full employment. Highest wage growth in decades.

Record level equity in property in decades. Property Already bottomed and moving back up to ATH.

Q3 GDP 4.9% tracking near peak 2021 and highest in more than a decade.

Debt to GDP dropped 5% from peak in 2021.


People are creating their own meanings to the words recession and depression. You won’t see a recession until possibly 2027 which is 2 x consecutive quarters of negative growth. You won’t see a Depression at all which is a prolonged period of consistent low GDP.

Same thing with the USD where the masses here believe it’s collapsing. We are at the highest value DXY in 20yrs.

GDP, rates and inflation are all linked. You don’t monetise debt in a low inflation environment.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Moontrane on September 25, 2023, 08:12:33 PM
No, not in recession, but pick your market index and you'll see that they've been going sideways for two years.  This is Bidenomics.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Moontrane on September 25, 2023, 08:16:08 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States

Wiki for the fail.  A two-month downturn is not a recession.   We did, though, have a recession the first half of 2022.

https://www.bea.gov/news/2023/gross-domestic-product-fourth-quarter-and-year-2022-second-estimate#:~:text=Real%20gross%20domestic%20product%20(GDP,real%20GDP%20increased%203.2%20percent.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Mayday on September 26, 2023, 12:57:31 AM
it’s not Bidenomics.

Part of Monetising debt involves sucking liquidity out of other assets and forcing it into assets you want bailed out (ie higher valuation).

Property is the largest market on Earth and dwarfs everything else. This is sucking liquidity out of other assets in order to drive valuations up. Hence you see equities go sideways for a period during the inflationary cycle while the bailout occurs.

Recession was in 2022. We are not in a recession now but people continue to make up new ways to try and make out like we are.
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: honest on September 26, 2023, 01:21:51 AM
it’s not Bidenomics.

Part of Monetising debt involves sucking liquidity out of other assets and forcing it into assets you want bailed out (ie higher valuation).

Property is the largest market on Earth and dwarfs everything else. This is sucking liquidity out of other assets in order to drive valuations up. Hence you see equities go sideways for a period during the inflationary cycle while the bailout occurs.

Recession was in 2022. We are not in a recession now but people continue to make up new ways to try and make out like we are.

So if you were going to buy property you would buy it now ? or would you wait three years when some analysts believe supply will eventually catch up with demand and over compensate, my thinking with that is if property goes up 30%in that time  then corrects 20% your still better off buying now.  ??
Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: Mayday on September 26, 2023, 03:21:03 AM
So if you were going to buy property you would buy it now ? or would you wait three years when some analysts believe supply will eventually catch up with demand and over compensate, my thinking with that is if property goes up 30%in that time  then corrects 20% your still better off buying now.  ??

Firstly I sold straight out of lockdown and went eye watering max leverage in August 2020. So my decision making and strategy tagged the lows and went all in just to give perspective. So i went max risk in 2020 and it gets easier for me as time moves forward.

Shortages ongoing to 2030 or so. Shortages drive inflation, those analysts are wrong. Track record those guys and they’ll be all over the place, never right. We just started inflationary wave 2 which none of them would have any idea about.

Property correction is already done. It’s in the next leg up now and I have 2025 as +20% prior peak. IF you have rate cuts in 2024 property will go bananas.

FWIW a property worth 380k in 2019 I have as 1,036 in 2030.  Buying now there is room to go double but you still need to pick correctly. It’s all about cash flow so ensure you can handle 10% rates.

The main factor here is buy today and in 6yrs your mortgage is half its relative value. Or if you have 100 IQ, over think everything, claim we are in a recession when we are booming, claim the USD is collapsing when it’s at a 20yr high etc etc.


Title: Re: Are we in a recession?
Post by: honest on September 26, 2023, 10:15:10 AM
Firstly I sold straight out of lockdown and went eye watering max leverage in August 2020. So my decision making and strategy tagged the lows and went all in just to give perspective. So i went max risk in 2020 and it gets easier for me as time moves forward.

Shortages ongoing to 2030 or so. Shortages drive inflation, those analysts are wrong. Track record those guys and they’ll be all over the place, never right. We just started inflationary wave 2 which none of them would have any idea about.

Property correction is already done. It’s in the next leg up now and I have 2025 as +20% prior peak. IF you have rate cuts in 2024 property will go bananas.

FWIW a property worth 380k in 2019 I have as 1,036 in 2030.  Buying now there is room to go double but you still need to pick correctly. It’s all about cash flow so ensure you can handle 10% rates.

The main factor here is buy today and in 6yrs your mortgage is half its relative value. Or if you have 100 IQ, over think everything, claim we are in a recession when we are booming, claim the USD is collapsing when it’s at a 20yr high etc etc.

I just had my best year ever, and this year is tracking similar sales are down but inflation holding the numbers up, when that volume comes back next year or two, and I have that volume with that value, happy days. Your position is just supporting my own.  :)