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I bet the hall of famers from 30 years ago are fckn insane with jealousy. That is major fuck you money.
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I bet the hall of famers from 30 years ago are fckn insane with jealousy. That is major fuck you money.
Im probably the only getbigger who doesnt make this kind of money :'( :'( :'(
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Im probably the only getbigger who doesnt make this kind of money :'( :'( :'(
Yeh - I’ll be honest when I saw his contract my first thought was “poor feller better manage his money right. What an insult to only be paid 70 mil a year” I mean I think I earned that last month, but honestly I can’t be bothered with petty shit like counting my $$
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Yeh - I’ll be honest when I saw his contract my first thought was “poor feller better manage his money right. What an insult to only be paid 70 mil a year” I mean I think I earned that last month, but honestly I can’t be bothered with petty shit like counting my $$
Im going to submit a request to social services for a 72,998,642.00 per month increase
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Dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard. 70mil a year for 10 year to throw and hit a ball. I’m sorry but it’s all you asshole sports fans getting these FUCKBAGs their salaries. I wish mass shooters would target pro sports players. Thats what I would do if I was gonna shoot a place up.
And yes I am jealous but I also think this money could be used in a much better way than to pad some chinks pockets. I don’t mind Asian people but I had to say chink in this instance.
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Incredible.
Baseball contracts are guaranteed too.
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Amazing. That is the largest contract in baseball history. I wouldn't be surprised if over the span of those 10 years he crosses over the $1 Billion mark by way of separate endorsements and sponsorship deals.
I believe it is well deserved. He is Major League Baseball's first two-way player since Babe Ruth. The man is a phenom and a complete gentleman that shows the highest level of sportsmanship every single time he steps foot on the baseball field. He was the American League MVP and has held this title for 2 straight years.
Had it not been for his injury, he would have easily been the homerun leader. Additionally, he is a pretty great pitcher as well (wouldn't call him the best pitcher in the MLB).
This past season he made it fun for me to watch baseball (not since the best days of the Yankees have I been a fan of the MLB). Shohei had somewhat of that Michael Jordan effect. He made it fun to watch regardless of whether his team couldn't get it together. Moreover, going to the Dodgers is a great idea. I'd say that by stats alone they could be called the 3rd best team in the MLB (second best in the National League).
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Dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard. 70mil a year for 10 year to throw and hit a ball. I’m sorry but it’s all you asshole sports fans getting these FUCKBAGs their salaries. I wish mass shooters would target pro sports players. Thats what I would do if I was gonna shoot a place up.
And yes I am jealous but I also think this money could be used in a much better way than to pad some chinks pockets. I don’t mind Asian people but I had to say chink in this instance.
he should donate at least half of that to charities of his choice, but the problem is... do the donations actually all go directly to the charities?
i'm absolutely certain they have a cure for cancer but they won't release this cure because they can't make such huge $$$ from thier cancer "treatments" to sick and dying individuals these fucks deserve to be tortured very slowly and to see the daily pain and fear in thier eyes with each "treatment" bestoyed upon them
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Dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard. 70mil a year for 10 year to throw and hit a ball. I’m sorry but it’s all you asshole sports fans getting these FUCKBAGs their salaries. I wish mass shooters would target pro sports players. Thats what I would do if I was gonna shoot a place up.
And yes I am jealous but I also think this money could be used in a much better way than to pad some chinks pockets. I don’t mind Asian people but I had to say chink in this instance.
Doctors/Surgeons, Police, Firemen should get paid much much more
Instead they waste money on ball-throwers of peace
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Amazing. That is the largest contract in baseball history. I wouldn't be surprised if over the span of those 10 years he crosses over the $1 Billion mark by way of separate endorsements and sponsorship deals.
I believe it is well deserved. He is Major League Baseball's first two-way player since Babe Ruth. The man is a phenom and a complete gentleman that shows the highest level of sportsmanship every single time he steps foot on the baseball field. He was the American League MVP and has held this title for 2 straight years.
Had it not been for his injury, he would have easily been the homerun leader. Additionally, he is a pretty great pitcher as well (wouldn't call him the best pitcher in the MLB).
This past season he made it fun for me to watch baseball (not since the best days of the Yankees have I been a fan of the MLB). Shohei had somewhat of that Michael Jordan effect. He made it fun to watch regardless of whether his team couldn't get it together. Moreover, going to the Dodgers is a great idea. I'd say that by stats alone they could be called the 3rd best team in the MLB (second best in the National League).
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Well deserved? You are as fucked as the people paying him OMR, no disrespect. But in this instance I just can’t fathom anyone saying it’s well deserved, 700 million to play a child’s game? You fucking kidding me?
Well deserved salary for a sports player of his caliber in my world would be 250-500k and even that is ridiculous.
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LOL at all the “Right Wing” posters CRYING about Ohtani’s salary.
It was calculated in a free market and will be paid ENTIRELY by the private sector.
FYI.
You’re not “Right Wing”….you were BRAINWASHED by Donald Trump.
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Doctors/Surgeons, Police, Firemen should get paid much much more
Instead they waste money on ball-throwers of peace
Doctors and surgeons do very well. If they made that much it’s means you’re paying more for medical. Police/fireman should be paid that much with tax payer money? At least these sportsmen are actually generating income. If people didn’t watch or go to games they would not make this type of money.
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LOL at all the “Right Wing” posters CRYING about Ohtani’s salary.
It was calculated in a free market and will be paid ENTIRELY by the private sector.
FYI.
You’re not “Right Wing”….you were BRAINWASHED by Donald Trump.
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Obviously they are being paid private sector you fucking knob. That makes it justifiable? You prob think it’s deserved. Aren’t you due to get your 15th covid booster?
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Doctors and surgeons do very well. If they made that much it’s means you’re paying more for medical. Police/fireman should be paid that much with tax payer money? At least these sportsmen are actually generating income. If people didn’t watch or go to games they would not make this type of money.
Exactly why I blamed all the sports fans for his pay. Absolutely ludicrous.
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In a who saw this coming moment, I agree with OAK. Its not Ohtanis fault or really anyones "fault". The market has dictated what he will get paid and hey, good for him. He is the best at what he does and the baseball industry has said hey, this is what he will get paid, and Im totally ok with that. People say ohhhh theres homeless blah blah he gets 70 mill a year,....Im not that guy. Good for him for being the best and making that money. Zero negative response from me
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LOL at all the “Right Wing” posters CRYING about Ohtani’s salary.
It was calculated in a free market and will be paid ENTIRELY by the private sector.
FYI.
You’re not “Right Wing”….you were BRAINWASHED by Donald Trump.
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You mean 46???? 😩😩😩. Nobody mentioned Trump you loon. Get more vaccines and boosters. That way when you get Covid you won’t die. I just give my body proper nutrition and do my best to enhance its ability to fight. So far zero vaccines and COVID with MILD symptoms 2 years ago.
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Rob - I gotta disagree with you here man. Do I think it’s worth it in the most basic sense of the word - NO. But so long as MLB is raking in the insane revenues then absolutely he deserves that % of the overall revenue. The kid is fckn amazing player. He can strike out the side and hit a grand slam in the same inning!!! That’s insane talent.
Now - do I think MLB tickets are WAY over priced? Again - in the basic sense yes. I fckn LIVE baseball and have a couple very close friends who played in the majors. One for well over a decade. He never made that kind of money, but he wasn’t the draw that Ohetani is.
I am a pure capitalist. The solution is NEVER to enforce artificial restrictions on the market. But I GUARANTEE you that if John Q Public stopped supporting with their hard earned dollars, salaries would drop like it was hot. (Did that sound cool? It did in my head)
Know this - if in fact these salaries are bloated as we think, there will EVENTUALLY be a market correction.
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In a who saw this coming moment, I agree with OAK. Its not Ohtanis fault or really anyones "fault". The market has dictated what he will get paid and hey, good for him. He is the best at what he does and the baseball industry has said hey, this is what he will get paid, and Im totally ok with that. People say ohhhh theres homeless blah blah he gets 70 mill a year,....Im not that guy. Good for him for being the best and making that money. Zero negative response from me
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I don’t care good for him.My Rangers finally won a World Series after 51 years of killing me. I told the baseball gods to just give me one and I will never ask for another.Of course we will get deGrom back next year so who knows.
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Doctors/Surgeons, Police, Firemen should get paid much much more
Instead they waste money on ball-throwers of peace
Ohtani makes the owners of baseball huge money so he shou!d be paid for it.
The owners are raking it in.
However, nobody is forced to buy tickets, watch, buy merch, and gamble on the games.
Surgeons make a fortune now.
Cops and firemen do quite well also.
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Dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard. 70mil a year for 10 year to throw and hit a ball. I’m sorry but it’s all you asshole sports fans getting these FUCKBAGs their salaries. I wish mass shooters would target pro sports players. Thats what I would do if I was gonna shoot a place up.
And yes I am jealous but I also think this money could be used in a much better way than to pad some chinks pockets. I don’t mind Asian people but I had to say chink in this instance.
I'm probably one of the biggest baseball fans here, but even I think LA is bidding against themselves here, and they went a little apeshit. The contract is stupid, and with the deferred money, I think we'll see some limitations put in in the future.
The thing is though it's more than hitting and throwing a ball - he'll generate enough revenue to pay for the contract. The major market teams lost out on over 60 million a year when the don't make the playoffs, and he is one of the best players ever. He capture so much Japanese market $ as well.
I just think they've finally crossed the line. The are certain markets that are DOA every year before the first pitch (sorry Abe) but this will make even more have no chance.
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Amazing. That is the largest contract in baseball history. I wouldn't be surprised if over the span of those 10 years he crosses over the $1 Billion mark by way of separate endorsements and sponsorship deals.
I believe it is well deserved. He is Major League Baseball's first two-way player since Babe Ruth. The man is a phenom and a complete gentleman that shows the highest level of sportsmanship every single time he steps foot on the baseball field. He was the American League MVP and has held this title for 2 straight years.
Had it not been for his injury, he would have easily been the homerun leader. Additionally, he is a pretty great pitcher as well (wouldn't call him the best pitcher in the MLB).
This past season he made it fun for me to watch baseball (not since the best days of the Yankees have I been a fan of the MLB). Shohei had somewhat of that Michael Jordan effect. He made it fun to watch regardless of whether his team couldn't get it together. Moreover, going to the Dodgers is a great idea. I'd say that by stats alone they could be called the 3rd best team in the MLB (second best in the National League).
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All good points.
Couple caveats - he can't be a two way player until he gets his second Tommy John surgery, so they will be paying him not to play if they want this. The price tag means he has to.
If he wasn't hurt, we have to assume Judge wasn't hurt, and Judge would have won the HR title. :)
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Can Ohtani stay healthy?
He will not pitch in 2024 since he is recovering from arm surgery.
He may never be the same pitcher. He can still hit though which is his biggest plus.
Big gamble for the Dodgers on this one.
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Maybe he`ll buy Denise Rutkowski a new sleeping bag.
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Maybe he`ll buy Denise Rutkowski a new sleeping bag.
Maybe they'll get married.
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Maybe they'll get married.
You never know.
NAH!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111 ;)
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I bet the hall of famers from 30 years ago are fckn insane with jealousy. That is major fuck you money.
$328 million or $328,760,268.00 in 1993 now equals $700 million in 2023. Still a lot.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
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Can Ohtani stay healthy?
He will not pitch in 2024 since he is recovering from arm surgery.
He may never be the same pitcher. He can still hit though which is his biggest plus.
Big gamble for the Dodgers on this one.
His sponsors obviously think he can.
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Meanwhile Arvilla can’t afford to take a day off from his mall cop job despite his leg leaking blood.
Life is bitter.
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I know you guys are right, I’m just very jealous of these numbers.
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Meanwhile Arvilla can’t afford to take a day off from his mall cop job despite his leg leaking blood.
Life is bitter.
Yes it is.
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FACTS: Ohtani won’t play more than six more years. He’ll never pitch again. Dodgers will be paying his Bonilla salary for the next 30 years after Ohtani tanks it.
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Well deserved? You are as fucked as the people paying him OMR, no disrespect. But in this instance I just can’t fathom anyone saying it’s well deserved, 700 million to play a child’s game? You fucking kidding me?
Well deserved salary for a sports player of his caliber in my world would be 250-500k and even that is ridiculous.
I get it brother, but it's a supply and demand thing.
Being a doctor is noble, but let's face it, no one's lining up to watch them in action. Meanwhile, 71 million fans went wild for the 2023 MLB season. We're talking foam fingers, nachos and stadium pee breaks next to weirdos with bhanks-esque mustaches AND all for the love of the game that rakes in billions for the MLB.
But who dictates the ridiculous pay Shohei gets? Surprise, it's us the fans. We're turning baseball into a gold mine and paying those jaw dropping salaries. It's our privilege to indulge in this entertaining sport. Doctors pay? Dictated by insurance companies and hospital systems. But healthcare shouldn't be a privilege like sports entertainment. It should be a right.
Now, let's circle back to supply and demand. Shohei isn't your average athlete, he's the Michael Jordan of baseball. Rarity comes at a cost and those 71 million fans will happily chant 'Take my money sensei!' for a stadium seat. Imagine if no one cared about MLB. Shohei would make $242,154, like Erica Wheeler, the WNBA's top earner. Big pay gap? Because not many watch the WNBA. After taxes, Erica takes home $150,000. Not bad, but a far cry from Shohei's $70 million.
I get why these athlete salaries piss you off, but without those 71 million fans, it'd be a different game. Again, supply and demand... In a deeper sense, I see it as more than money though. Romans had 'bread and circus' in tough times. Baseball is our distraction, our hope, like a sitcom while we live throughout what I believe is the worst timeline in human history. Inversely, when things are good, baseball sweetens the American dream.
For that reason, Shohei can make a slit into my wallet with his katana and run to first base with his back pocket filled with 2 weeks worth of my pay, because if it allows me to escape from the monotony that life brings us, it's fucking worth it.
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I get it brother, but it's a supply and demand thing.
Being a doctor is noble, but let's face it, no one's lining up to watch them in action. Meanwhile, 71 million fans went wild for the 2023 MLB season. We're talking foam fingers, nachos and stadium pee breaks next to weirdos with bhanks-esque mustaches AND all for the love of the game that rakes in billions for the MLB.
But who dictates the ridiculous pay Shohei gets? Surprise, it's us the fans. We're turning baseball into a gold mine and paying those jaw dropping salaries. It's our privilege to indulge in this entertaining sport. Doctors pay? Dictated by insurance companies and hospital systems. But healthcare shouldn't be a privilege like sports entertainment. It should be a right.
Now, let's circle back to supply and demand. Shohei isn't your average athlete, he's the Michael Jordan of baseball. Rarity comes at a cost and those 71 million fans will happily chant 'Take my money sensei!' for a stadium seat. Imagine if no one cared about MLB. Shohei would make $242,154, like Erica Wheeler, the WNBA's top earner. Big pay gap? Because not many watch the WNBA. After taxes, Erica takes home $150,000. Not bad, but a far cry from Shohei's $70 million.
I get why these athlete salaries piss you off, but without those 71 million fans, it'd be a different game. Again, supply and demand... In a deeper sense, I see it as more than money though. Romans had 'bread and circus' in tough times. Baseball is our distraction, our hope, like a sitcom while we live throughout what I believe is the worst timeline in human history. Inversely, when things are good, baseball sweetens the American dream.
For that reason, Shohei can make a slit into my wallet with his katana and run to first base with his back pocket filled with 2 weeks worth of my pay, because if it allows me to escape from the monotony that life brings us, it's fucking worth it.
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As much of an asshole that I am, I just can’t stand to see these numbers when so many people could use help. Homeless vets,pets,kids and people juts down on their luck etc… just seems wrong. Also again it’s jealousy. Didnt mean to attack you if it seemed that way. That number is just astronomical.
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I didn’t see many MLB games with him, but he did really well in the WBC. Definitely the best WBC of all time..
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As much of an asshole that I am, I just can’t stand to see these numbers when so many people could use help. Homeless vets,pets,kids and people juts down on their luck etc… just seems wrong. Also again it’s jealousy. Didnt mean to attack you if it seemed that way. That number is just astronomical.
Im SUBSTANTIALLY poorer than you, and most likely the entire board. I have zero jealousy of his numbers. Again, with me, its what the market has determined so good for him, he out performed everyone in a high paying market and got rewarded. I also fucking love sports, so I have that bias too
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As much of an asshole that I am, I just can’t stand to see these numbers when so many people could use help. Homeless vets,pets,kids and people juts down on their luck etc… just seems wrong. Also again it’s jealousy. Didnt mean to attack you if it seemed that way. That number is just astronomical.
No offense ever taken man.
I enjoy these discussions.
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FACTS: Ohtani won’t play more than six more years. He’ll never pitch again. Dodgers will be paying his Bonilla salary for the next 30 years after Ohtani tanks it.
This 100 percent. He’s never going to play out this contract. He’s gonna 30 this summer and hes more than likely peaked as a player, certainly as a pitcher. The risk of Injuries will stop the team from letting him pitch pretty soon too
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I don’t care good for him.My Rangers finally won a World Series after 51 years of killing me. I told the baseball gods to just give me one and I will never ask for another.Of course we will get deGrom back next year so who knows.
You say that. But I said it with the Saints and a decade and a half later I am feeling the need to go back on my word!! 😆
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$328 million or $328,760,268.00 in 1993 now equals $700 million in 2023. Still a lot.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
Who the fck was getting 328,000 contracts in 1993?????? Nobody
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Im SUBSTANTIALLY poorer than you, and most likely the entire board. I have zero jealousy of his numbers. Again, with me, its what the market has determined so good for him, he out performed everyone in a high paying market and got rewarded. I also fucking love sports, so I have that bias too
Exactly right man. Who are we to say what someone is worth? Well - the truth is that we are EVERYTHING to say it… but not by complaining after the fact. I say again if people stopped paying exorbitant prices, the market would correct and do so in a hurry. As long as people are willing to trade their money for entertainment then it will continue to escalate. I love sports too and fckn hate doctors so there’s that! 😁
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You say that. But I said it with the Saints and a decade and a half later I am feeling the need to go back on my word!! 😆
yeah forever is a long time isn’t it ;D
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Ohtani makes the owners of baseball huge money so he shou!d be paid for it.
The owners are raking it in.
However, nobody is forced to buy tickets, watch, buy merch, and gamble on the games.
Surgeons make a fortune now.
Cops and firemen do quite well also.
Where does all the money in baseball come from? The TV ratings are terrible compared to football and baseball stadiums are usually half full or half empty depending on your viewpoint.
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FACTS: Ohtani won’t play more than six more years. He’ll never pitch again. Dodgers will be paying his Bonilla salary for the next 30 years after Ohtani tanks it.
So, according to his contract, what happens if he gets injured in three years and can never play again?
Will he still get paid the rest of the years on the contract?
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So, according to his contract, what happens if he gets injured in three years and can never play again?
Will he still get paid the rest of the years on the contract?
Baseball contracts are fully guaranteed.
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Baseball contracts are fully guaranteed.
Yes, but likely his payments are covered by insurance.
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https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/shohei-ohtanis-contract-will-defer-68mm-per-year.html
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https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/shohei-ohtanis-contract-will-defer-68mm-per-year.html
Apparently, Ohtani makes $50M a year OUTSIDE of baseball as well, which is why he can do this.
MLB needs to cap deferrals.
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Speaking of these Japanese super athletes, there is another Samurai by the name of Yoshinobu Yamamoto (pitcher) who looks to be a beast on the mound. The guy treats every pitch like the last pitch of his life and the sheer sound of his pitches are ridiculous. Rumor has it that various teams, including the Yankees, are giving him consideration.
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Speaking of these Japanese super athletes, there is another Samurai by the name of Yoshinobu Yamamoto (pitcher) who looks to be a beast on the mound. The guy treats every pitch like the last pitch of his life and the sheer sound of his pitches are ridiculous. Rumor has it that various teams, including the Yankees, are giving him consideration.
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The Yankees are yes... but Yamamoto’s agent also represents Giancarlo Stanton. Several weeks ago, Brian Cashman critized Stanton. The agent gave a hint that he might not want Yamamoto going to the Yankees due to Cashman’s comments.
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Yes, but likely his payments are covered by insurance.
What do you think that insurance premium on $700 million looks like?
Apparently, Ohtani makes $50M a year OUTSIDE of baseball as well, which is why he can do this.
MLB needs to cap deferrals.
It’s borderline insane that MLB would allow that much to be deferred. It’s like no one learned from Bobby Bonilla.
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Apparently, Ohtani makes $50M a year OUTSIDE of baseball as well, which is why he can do this.
MLB needs to cap deferrals.
most annoying commercial ever.
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The Yankees are yes... but Yamamoto’s agent also represents Giancarlo Stanton. Several weeks ago, Brian Cashman critized Stanton. The agent gave a hint that he might not want Yamamoto going to the Yankees due to Cashman’s comments.
Damn shame, as with the new acquisition of Soto, they would have a killer team with the right monster pitcher. With Judge, Soto and (a healthy) Stanton), they have a squad of homerun hitters. That said, they need a strong pitcher that can lead them. Gerrit Cole is not bad, but not great enough to shut out other teams.
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Damn shame, as with the new acquisition of Soto, they would have a killer team with the right monster pitcher. With Judge, Soto and (a healthy) Stanton), they have a squad of homerun hitters. That said, they need a strong pitcher that can lead them. Gerrit Cole is not bad, but not great enough to shut out other teams.
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I know some NY Yankees fans that think that the players on the team are too “nice”. They might need to toughen up a bit.
However, this video below was an example of the Yankees flexing when other teams start acting up.
Francisco Lindor had already hit 2 or 3 home runs in the series.. and he talked shit to the Yankee infielders as he circled the bases.
Stanton didn’t take kindly to Lindor’s disrespect. Neither did Gerritt Cole.
This was a huge moment.
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Speaking of these Japanese super athletes, there is another Samurai by the name of Yoshinobu Yamamoto (pitcher) who looks to be a beast on the mound. The guy treats every pitch like the last pitch of his life and the sheer sound of his pitches are ridiculous. Rumor has it that various teams, including the Yankees, are giving him consideration.
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Having been tracking Yamamoto for two years, and hoping NY would sign.
The Stanton comments will have no bearing on whether the Yankees sign him or not. That's just noise, and his comments on Stanton were not bad, but the quote always cut off the end statement to generate drama. An agent would never let that influence another Client's $ or desires to play somewhere.
Yankees GM was in attendance at Yamamoto's last game in Japan when he threw a no hitter. Also as a gesture of respect, the Yankees did not assign #18 to anyone, as that is the "ace" number in Japan.
If Moto wants only the most $, he will likely go to the Mets as their owner is a mega billionaire, and not afraid to throw out money. But the Yankees have made their intentions clear, and they generally get the FA they want when they go all in.
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Gerrit Cole is not bad, but not great enough to shut out other teams.
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Bro, he was the best pitcher in baseball last year.
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Bro, he was the best pitcher in baseball last year.
I was going to say the same thing. He won the AL Cy Young.
But with Domingo German gone, and now King gone, a big time signing would be nice.
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I was going to say the same thing. He won the AL Cy Young.
But with Domingo German gone, and now King gone, a big time signing would be nice.
Yup, and was better than the NL winner.
Yamamoto is the best upgrade available, and would be a cornerstone front line starter to compliment Cole for years. I've wanted NY to sign him as bad as any player in recent history.
That said, if they can't, they should pivot to both Bauer and Montas on "re-establishment" type deals, if the players are willing.
A baller move would be signing Moto AND Bauer.
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There’s another Japanese pitcher Roki Sasaki, who is only 21 who is an absolute beast, potentially better than Yamamoto too, been rumors he wants to come to the majors as early as next year
The other Japanese hitter is Murakami, power hitter that’s the top hitter right now
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Fuck brofessional sports to Hades. Actually, all sports can FOAD.
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Doctors/Surgeons, Police, Firemen should get paid much much more
Instead they waste money on ball-throwers of peace
Bbers need to be paid accordingly, vastly underpaid imo, especially the prep and the battles they have to go through, everyday is war and bbers are athletes 24/7, there’s no rest
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Bro, he was the best pitcher in baseball last year.
And even then the Yanks had a terrible season. I was even there for the Rodon's first game of the season and they got crushed.
They should have kept Domingo German's arm. Sadly, only his wife will now taste the speed behind that whip.
Yamamoto is a mutant. Bring him on and the Yanks take it next year.
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And even then the Yanks had a terrible season. I was even there for the Rodon's first game of the season and they got crushed.
They should have kept Domingo German's arm. Sadly, only his wife will now taste the speed behind that whip.
Yamamoto is a mutant. Bring him on and the Yanks take it next year.
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I don’t know the exact details but in August German was reported to be drunk in the Yankees clubhouse yelling, flipping over furniture... laughing at players who were being sent back down to Triple A. Add to that what you stated... regarding German punching his own wife in the face at a separate Yankees event (CC Sabathia retirement). The Yankees were forced to cut ties with him.
I wish that Severino hadn’t regressed the was that he did.
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I don’t know the exact details but in August German was reported to be drunk in the Yankees clubhouse yelling, flipping over furniture... laughing at players who were being sent back down to Triple A. Add to that what you stated... regarding German punching his own wife in the face at a separate Yankees event (CC Sabathia retirement). The Yankees were forced to cut ties with him.
I wish that Severino hadn’t regressed the was that he did.
I think I read the same somewhere online. Talented guy, but he's a literal black eye for the Yankees. Just a PR nightmare from the DR.
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A sports talk show I happened on yesterday saws he is going to undergo his second Tommy John’s surgery, or has recently. They also mentioned the contract has a lot of hold backs in it, an unprecedented amount. I’d like to see the contract for shits and giggles and see how it’s structured.
As it is he is not expected to pitch next year and will probably have limited at bats according to the interview. He has fuck you money for sure but it remains to be seen if the team benefits in the long run.
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A sports talk show I happened on yesterday saws he is going to undergo his second Tommy John’s surgery, or has recently. They also mentioned the contract has a lot of hold backs in it, an unprecedented amount. I’d like to see the contract for shits and giggles and see how it’s structured.
As it is he is not expected to pitch next year and will probably have limited at bats according to the interview. He has fuck you money for sure but it remains to be seen if the team benefits in the long run.
I've never heard of someone having that surgery twice.
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The first Japanese-born player in the major leagues, Masanori Murakami played two seasons for the San Francisco Giants.
Murakami's father was very controlling and refused to let his son play baseball much as a kid. In his second year of middle school, Murakami began playing secretly and only won the approval of his father under the condition that he continue to study earnestly, as his dad wanted him to be a doctor.
Murakami's high school team was very successful. In 1960 and 1961, they won the National High School Tournament at Koshien, perhaps the biggest annual event in Japanese baseball. Murakami was the #2 pitcher on those teams but only appeared once.
After 3 years of high school, Murakami's family was approached by Kazuto Tsuruoka, the manager of the Nankai Hawks (he is the all-time leader in managerial wins in Nippon Pro Baseball and helped develop the minor leagues there). Murakami signed with Nankai and went to spring training with the club. He pitched 2 innings in 1963 for the Hawks, allowing one earned run. After adjusting his delivery at the request of the pitching coach, he injured his elbow.
A relative non-prospect, Murakami was sent with two other young non-prospects to the San Francisco Giants to develop his skills in the low minors. Both the NPB and MLB commissioners' offices had signed off on the Nankai-San Francisco development deal, wherein the teams would agree to send players back and forth to train in the minors. The agreement included a clause that gave the Giants the ability to buy the contract (for $10,000) of any of the Nankai prospects who made the Giants. Nankai GM Makoto Tachibana was sure that none of the players sent to the States stood a chance of making the majors.
Murakami, the brighest of the three non-prospects, was assigned to the class A Fresno Giants in the California League. The language barrier was huge - when manager Bill Werle brought out uniforms for players to select, Murakami did not understand what to do and had to take the only two uniforms left at the end, which thankfully fit. The home uniform was number 6 and the road uniform number 8, but the manager told him it was okay to use different numbers for different games.
Murakami was initially used as a closer for Fresno, hurling the final 3 innings. He put together a great season, stunning everyone by going 11-7 with a 1.78 ERA. Werle told him "Kid, you're too good for this league." Murakami was called up by the Giants in September. They weren't exactly greeting him with open arms - no one from the team met him at the airport and his name wasn't on the hotel ledger. After 20 minutes, the team's traveling secretary showed up and got him a room. It took a long time to get Murakami to sign his major-league contract, as Japan did not have separate major and minor league contracts then and players only signed once a year. A Japanese fan at the game had to explain things to Murakami for him to sign in time to play.
In his MLB debut, he pitched a scoreless inning against the New York Mets at Shea Stadium in front of 50,000 fans. His first eleven innings in the majors were scoreless. He quickly became a hero in San Francisco, especially with the Japanese community there. Murakami's Japanese habits like bowing to a teammate who made a good defensive play helped endear him to the fans. Murakami said it was easier pitching in the US than in Japan - "In Japan, batters only swing at strikes. Here, they try to hit everything out and they don't care if you throw a strike or not. It's easier to pitch against them." He became the top cultural icon in Japan and posted a 1.80 ERA on the year. San Francisco, thrilled with his work, signed him for 1965 and the Giants wired the $10,000 to Nankai. With the deal presumably closed, Murakami wanted to stay to play winter ball in Arizona but a Nankai official told him to return to Japan so he went to Yamanashi to spend the winter with his family.
Nankai officials convinced Murakami he should stay in Japan, so he signed with their team for 1965 as well. On January 31st, right before spring training began, he called a press conference and said he would remain in Japan because he was an only son and needed to be with his father and in his native country. MLB owners saw this as a violation of MLB's reserve clause. Commissioner Ford Frick wrote to his NPB counterpart, Yushi Uchimura, demanding that Uchimura encourage Nankai to send Murakami to San Francisco. Uchimura agreed but the Hawks wouldn't budge. Hawks GM Shigeru Niyama said the team had spent 10 million yen (about $30,000) as a signing bonus for Murakami and had no intention of having him play elsewhere - they had merely rented him to the Giants' organization for a year. They had thought the $10,000 from the Giants was a bonus for the fine work the young lefty had done. They said that the Japanese reserve clause protected their right to Murakami. Frick refused to budge as well. Japanese baseball historian Robert Whiting argues that the conflict boiled down to a difference of cultural views of contracts - Japanese believed in the spirit of a contract and the mere words didn't matter so much, while Americans were concerned about the letter of the contract. He also argues that the Hawks had ignored the option clause in the deal with the Giants, as they hadn't expected any of their players (being very low prospects) to make the majors.
Things actually got worse from there. Nankai claimed the team signature on Murakami's release was a forgery. They then fell back on a "homesick clause" in the original agreement for players who couldn't adapt to America. As Murakami had expressed interest in staying in San Francisco, Frick said this did not apply. The Hawks then said that they would refused to send Murakami to the States. On February 17, 1965, Frick cut off baseball relations between the countries. He told the Pittsburgh Pirates to cancel a fall trip to Japan. Nankai Hawks president Osamu Tsubota said that this was no big deal and that "Frick's actions are proof that he is holding Japanese baseball cheap."
Uchimura then finally reviewed the Hawks-Giants agreement for himself and found that it was very difficult to understand and that the Hawks might not have known what they were getting into. He came up with a compromise decision on March 17th that Murakami could go the Giants for the 1965 season but in 1966 would be back in Japan. He faulted the Hawks for not reviewing the agreement closely and the Giants for not realizing that Nankai had no plans to give up a prized prospect to America. Frick insisted that this still violated the MLB reserve clause. Things finally came to an amicable agreement when Murakami's father explained that he would never allow his only son (a minor at the time of the agreement) go to America for good. Frick and the Giants' Horace Stoneham agreed with this logic and said that Murakami would pitch in America in 1965, had the option to return to Japan in 1966 and the Hawks agreed to send the $10,000 back to San Francisco.
Murakami returned to the Giants in May and pitched well, going 4-1 with 8 saves and a 3.75 ERA (96 ERA+) in 45 games. The Giants lost a close pennant race to the Los Angeles Dodgers and Murakami voiced the opinion that they would have won had he been able to join the team sooner. In August, the Giants honored Murakami with a day on August 15, 20 years after the end of World War II.
Murakami considered returning to the Giants in 1966 and some in the Japanese media villified him as selfish. The Giants offered to double his salary from $15,000 and offered to bring his parents to the US for a month, but Murakami signed with Nankai for "somewhat less than $30,000." While Murakami said he felt obligated to the team, others said his father applied considerable pressure, especially when he found out that his son had a blond stewardess girlfriend in America.
Nankai decided to keep him in the bullpen role he held in the US - they had a formidable starting staff and had no need for him in that role. A radio commentator noted that his delivery had changed and when he tried to return to his old form, he was off-balance and struggled. The 1966 Pacific League was a pitcher's circuit - the league ERA was 2.88 and first-place Nankai had a 2.59 team ERA. Of 8 pitchers on the team with 50+ innings, Murakami was 7th in ERA at 3.09 and he went 6-4 for a team that was otherwise 73-45. The next year he did even worse, going 3-1 with a 4.05 ERA. Fans began taunting him to "Go back to America!" The papers derided bad American habits he had learned and said he didn't seem to get along with his teammates (he had gotten along great with his Giant teammates in San Francisco.) Needless to say, expectations had been high and Murakami was not performing anywhere close to what was hoped. He had an offer from the president of the Yokohama Company to try to get him another year in the majors, but he turned it down out of respect for Tsuruoka. Murakami recently said "If I had returned to the Major Leagues, I would have realized my dream, but I would have betrayed Mr. Tsuruoka. Yet, because I kept my promise to Mr. Tsuruoka, I forever carry this sense of regret."
Murakami had arguably his best season in 1968, after struggling his first two years back in Japan. He went 18-4 and posted a 2.38 ERA. Instead of stardom, though, mediocrity followed this brilliant turn. He went 7-9 with a 4.54 ERA in 1969, 11-11 with a 3.25 ERA in 1970, 14-15 with a 4.10 ERA (leading the league in runs allowed) in 1971, somehow making his only All-Star Team. In 1972, he was 11-9 with a 4.29 ERA and things continued to decline. That year he hit a record 5 batters in one game. In 1973, he was 2-4 with a 5.18 ERA. After failing to pitch 25 innings in 1974, Nankai gave up on the guy they once fought so hard for.
Murakami was traded to the Central League Hanshin Tigers in 1975, along with Yoshihiro Aiba in exchange for Toshio Nogami and Toru Wada. A change in scenery meant little as he went 2-1 with a 5.21 ERA in 18 games. In 1976, he returned to the Pacific League with the Nippon Ham Fighters (in a deal with Kazuaki Goto for Masayoshi Nigashida) and began to piece his career back together with a 3.74 ERA as a middle reliever. In 1977, he cut it down to 2.33, his best mark in 11 years, and went 7-4 with 6 saves in 61 appearances as the league's most-used reliever. He was 12-11 with 10 saves and a 3.02 ERA in 1978, again leading the league in games pitched with 57. He lasted four more years with Nippon Ham, going 8-7 with 13 saves but posting ERAs over 4 every year. He was seeing less and less action - from 98.7 innings in 1979 to 67 in 1980 to 20.3 in 1981 to 2 in 1982 (just as he had started in 1963). During the 1983 season, Murakami attended spring training with the San Francisco Giants, and almost made the team. Whiting notes that he frequently would reverse course on whether he regretted his decision to return to Japan, sometimes saying he did what was right, sometimes that he should have gone to the US again.
Overall in NPB, Murakami was 85-78 other than his great 18-4 year in 1968 - not the kind of record one expects from a guy playing on one of the top teams of the era for half of his career. He had a 3.64 ERA in Japan, worse than in the majors.
Following his long career, Murakami became an announcer for the NHK network. It didn't go so well for the first jap pitcher, he was more or less shunned on a return to his home country.
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How much is the current Mr.Olympia being paid ?
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Stankees aren't going anywhere until boone and cashman are gone
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How much is the current Mr.Olympia being paid ?
your a shmoe , you should know better than any one...
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So the Dodgers, who were practically the MLB's #3 team (prior to any acquisitions) now have both Shohei and Yamamoto.
Filthy..
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So the Dodgers, who were practically the MLB's #3 team (prior to any acquisitions) now have both Shohei and Yamamoto.
Filthy..
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The rich get richer.
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So the Dodgers, who were practically the MLB's #3 team (prior to any acquisitions) now have both Shohei and Yamamoto.
Filthy..
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1.075 billion spent on two players
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The Japanese players want to live on the West Coast as it is closer to Japan for travel.
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The Japanese players want to live on the West Coast as it is closer to Japan for travel.
Depends
If the Yankees were as dominant as back then, they would have choose NY, matsui, Tanaka, etc
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1.075 billion spent on two players
Even more money will be made from international marketing
Business
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1.075 billion spent on two players
The price of a championship.
Reminds me a little of the approach the Yankees took when Steinbrenner would spare no expense to create his monster squad over the years.
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The price of a championship.
Reminds me a little of the approach the Yankees took when Steinbrenner would spare no expense to create his monster squad over the years.
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He did it in the 2008 offseason signing Teixeira, Burnett and Sabbathia. They won in 2009, and that's been it.
Signing / trading for another top arm and they will be right back in it.
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Even more money will be made from international marketing
Business
I know how it works. There are always revenue streams to offset, but the #'s I've seen that Ohtani will bring in seem a bit absurd. Like LA will increase revenues 80% this year alone. I will wait to see their #'s after 2024 to see because I am doubting it. If those numbers are what people are saying, they could have paid Ohtani $1B.
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Dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard. 70mil a year for 10 year to throw and hit a ball. I’m sorry but it’s all you asshole sports fans getting these FUCKBAGs their salaries. I wish mass shooters would target pro sports players. Thats what I would do if I was gonna shoot a place up.
And yes I am jealous but I also think this money could be used in a much better way than to pad some chinks pockets. I don’t mind Asian people but I had to say chink in this instance.
I also have to disagree.
Chinks are Chinese, bro. Chog or Chin is also applicable. But Japs are Nips, Harbor Bombers, or Gaimono. ("Foreign Thing." Dehumanizing and offensive.)
Slanty eyed little yellow bastard is universally acceptable when in doubt.
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I also have to disagree.
Chinks are Chinese, bro. Chog or Chin is also applicable. But Japs are Nips, Harbor Bombers, or Gaimono. ("Foreign Thing." Dehumanizing and offensive.)
Slanty eyed little yellow bastard is universally acceptable when in doubt.
Lmao!
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