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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: JackTheRipper on December 19, 2023, 05:02:24 AM
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dude was the Boss
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dude was the Boss
Yes he was.
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He was a genius.
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yup it's rocket science. ;D
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Yes he was.
I owe my bulging muscles to Mike
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yup it's rocket science. ;D
There is genius in simplicity
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Overcoming lactic acid, the better you are at that the more unstoppable force you are
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Heavy Duty College, oh brother ::)
Let me guess, these are the same people that are behind High Intensity University, right? A certain John R. Little...
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Lmao. Little Mike throwing around some "big" words trying to sound all scientific and shit. SMH.. He said NOTHING that any person off the street didn't already know. To gain muscle you have to push it beyond what it can normally do. PERIOD. Even Arnold in pumping iron said "the body may not be used to the 9 10 11 or 12 rep so when you do that that is what makes the muscle grow. And yes more is not better but neither is not enough. Look at guys from boot camp. & days a week all day doing everything and each one always comes out of boot camp more muscular than when they went in. Overtraining? nope. But mike would think they should only do it once a week for 15 minutes. Football" double sessions for weeks. Overtraining? nope. But mike would want you to do it once a week for 15 minutes. YES there are limits depending on your goals. So I guess a marathon runner would be better off training once a week for 15 minutes ( according to little mike) So I guess volume has no place in building muscle? Look at gymnasts? Hours each day and they are built. Bike racers. see their legs? The point is EVERYONE is different. Not all bike racers have huge legs not all gymnasts are muscular and not all volume guys build a lot of muscle. Little mike "theory" is come in do one set of one rep with the heaviest weight and have help getting it up to make sure you gave your all and then go home and repeat in 7 to 10 days. That is basically what he says. But wait all the experts say it takes at least 6 reps ( isnt that volume?) And after 12 is more cardio. This is not rocket science people. Train hard eat good sleep well and if you want take steroids. There is much more to building muscle than pushing the muscle to the limit. Food rest mental issues etc. But the biggest and most important is GENETICS!!! Little mike never says that does he. The body can and should be worked out every day But we look for short cuts and some people listen to little methead and his training because it sounds good ( less time working out) but it has never and will never work for any real boybuilder no matter their genetics or drug intake. PERIOD.
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dude was the Boss
He definitely was on to something ......Arnold and the Weiders blocked him right on time 43 years ago...
In this social media era would have been impossible .
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I owe my bulging muscles to Mike
I am more of a women kind of guy.
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Lmao. Little Mike throwing around some "big" words trying to sound all scientific and shit. SMH.. He said NOTHING that any person off the street didn't already know. To gain muscle you have to push it beyond what it can normally do. PERIOD. Even Arnold in pumping iron said "the body may not be used to the 9 10 11 or 12 rep so when you do that that is what makes the muscle grow. And yes more is not better but neither is not enough. Look at guys from boot camp. & days a week all day doing everything and each one always comes out of boot camp more muscular than when they went in. Overtraining? nope. But mike would think they should only do it once a week for 15 minutes. Football" double sessions for weeks. Overtraining? nope. But mike would want you to do it once a week for 15 minutes. YES there are limits depending on your goals. So I guess a marathon runner would be better off training once a week for 15 minutes ( according to little mike) So I guess volume has no place in building muscle? Look at gymnasts? Hours each day and they are built. Bike racers. see their legs? The point is EVERYONE is different. Not all bike racers have huge legs not all gymnasts are muscular and not all volume guys build a lot of muscle. Little mike "theory" is come in do one set of one rep with the heaviest weight and have help getting it up to make sure you gave your all and then go home and repeat in 7 to 10 days. That is basically what he says. But wait all the experts say it takes at least 6 reps ( isnt that volume?) And after 12 is more cardio. This is not rocket science people. Train hard eat good sleep well and if you want take steroids. There is much more to building muscle than pushing the muscle to the limit. Food rest mental issues etc. But the biggest and most important is GENETICS!!! Little mike never says that does he. The body can and should be worked out every day But we look for short cuts and some people listen to little methead and his training because it sounds good ( less time working out) but it has never and will never work for any real boybuilder no matter their genetics or drug intake. PERIOD.
You make some good points but your use of the phrase 'little Mike" makes you sound jealous and spiteful. The guy is dead- what's your point?
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These Mentzer threads suck donkey dick just like the OP.
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These Mentzer threads suck donkey dick just like the OP.
youīre on meds too..old fucking retard :D
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Mike was a homo fraud. I've personally never seen anyone who did what Mike advocates and put on any size. The dude was good at marketing I'd give him that much. And yea he sounds smart to morons with his Ayn Rand bullshit
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Bro...
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Mike trained about 3 to 6 sets a body part not counting non taxing warmups. He trained a body part directly either once a week or twice when he trained for the 1980 Olympia using the ABA split then next week using the BAB split. To illustrate the rotation on Monday he trained Legs, chest and triceps. One Wednesday it was back, delts and bicep. His last training day for the week was back to legs, chest and triceps. The next week he rotated it to Monday starting with back, delts and biceps.
When he got out of the nut house and got into personal training is when he came up with the outrageous abbreviated workouts. Nice to train someone for 15-20 minutes and say see you in 10 days. It seems most personal trainers preach HIT because they can fit so many more people into their schedule. Think a trainer is going to stand by for a guy doing a 90 minute or a 120 minute workout? Mentzer could fit so many clients in with his bull shit workouts that he never did.
Mentzer started his HIT journey training three days a week training the whole body each workout winning the Mr. America contest. From there he went to a two way split with four workout days a week. From there he was influenced by Mr. Florida Frank Calta to adopting the rotation for recuperation three day a week workout I typed about above.
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Heavy Duty College, oh brother ::)
Let me guess, these are the same people that are behind High Intensity University, right? A certain John R. Little...
You'd be right. John Little and his bs obsession with old meth head. He's still milking methzer's name just to make some cash.
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Mike trained about 3 to 6 sets a body part not counting non taxing warmups. He trained a body part directly either once a week or twice when he trained for the 1980 Olympia using the ABA split then next week using the BAB split. To illustrate the rotation on Monday he trained Legs, chest and triceps. One Wednesday it was back, delts and bicep. His last training day for the week was back to legs, chest and triceps. The next week he rotated it to Monday starting with back, delts and biceps.
When he got out of the nut house and got into personal training is when he came up with the outrageous abbreviated workouts. Nice to train someone for 15-20 minutes and say see you in 10 days. It seems most personal trainers preach HIT because they can fit so many more people into their schedule. Think a trainer is going to stand by for a guy doing a 90 minute or a 120 minute workout? Mentzer could fit so many clients in with his bull shit workouts that he never did.
Mentzer started his HIT journey training three days a week training the whole body each workout winning the Mr. America contest. From there he went to a two way split with four workout days a week. From there he was influenced by Mr. Florida Frank Calta to adopting the rotation for recuperation three day a week workout I typed about above.
All bs. Ask John Terrilli (80's bodybuilding champion) on how methzer actually trained as he worked out with old meth head in 1980. methzer was not doing low volume hit. He was doing the typical 20 to 25 sets high volume training. He was also seen by others like Franco Columbu doing way more sets and higher reps than what he advocated in his writings. Funny how there is no actual training footage of methzer doing an actual workout. It's because he trained like most top bodybuilders at that time with high volume.
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All bs. Ask John Terrilli (80's bodybuilding champion) on how methzer actually trained as he worked out with old meth head in 1980. methzer was not doing low volume hit. He was doing the typical 20 to 25 sets high volume training. He was also seen by others like Franco Columbu doing way more sets and higher reps than what he advocated in his writings. Funny how there is no actual training footage of methzer doing an actual workout. It's because he trained like most top bodybuilders at that time with high volume.
That isn't true. We had a poster here who is now deceased. He wrote for Ironman magazine. He told me he trained many a day in the gym with Mentzer. 20-25 sets? Bull shit.
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Youre kidding yourself if you wanna use some 'elite supreme intenisty' to unlock gains in 15 to 30 minites a day and thats all you need to even look above average
Unlocking gains requires some serious effort that you cannot condense in 15 to 30 min per day. End of discussion!
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That isn't true. We had a poster here who is now deceased. He wrote for Ironman magazine. He told me he trained many a day in the gym with Mentzer. 20-25 sets? Bull shit.
He sure did. Go ask John Terrilli yourself. He has a YT channel. Many have stated they saw methzer in the gym doing high sets including Greg Zulak, Franco Columbu, John Terrilli, Danny Padilla amongst others. He was doing high sets.
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Youre kidding yourself if you wanna use some 'elite supreme intenisty' to unlock gains in 15 to 30 minites a day and thats all you need to even look above average
Unlocking gains requires some serious effort that you cannot condense in 15 to 30 min per day. End of discussion!
Exactly. It's why these hit clowns who only train 30 minutes once a week don't look like they even exercise yet alone lift.
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There more people who now say they either trained with Mentzer or watched him train than ever really did.
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Mentzer sucks.
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That's a great interview.
I don't agree with Mike's training, but a lot of good basic knowledge in that video.
Imagine interviewing the retards we have today, all they would do is push supplements and grass fed beef (rinsed of course).
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Mentzer sucks.
Not even in the top 50 greatest bodybuilders.
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There more people who now say they either trained with Mentzer or watched him train than ever really did.
In good honesty, he trained once every 3 weeks so it was very hard to see him train.
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Not even in the top 50 greatest bodybuilders.
jackazz
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Not even in the top 50 greatest bodybuilders.
And yet, here we are, talking about him, his legacy, and his brother, 24/7.
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Mentzer sucks.
your workouts are a joke 100 sets for arms :D
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That's a great interview.
I don't agree with Mike's training, but a lot of good basic knowledge in that video.
Imagine interviewing the retards we have today, all they would do is push supplements and grass fed beef (rinsed of course).
Let`s not leave out the Melatonin, Walla Walla Onions,Duck Eggs, and Pat Banya sweet potatoes my old friend. ;D
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your workouts are a joke 100 sets for arms :D
To each his own. If it works for him, great. It wouldn't work for me. I started using HIT because i couldn't follow the tipical 12 sets per bodypart without getting overtrained.
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To each his own. If it works for him, great. It wouldn't work for me. I started using HIT because i couldn't follow the tipical 12 sets per bodypart without getting overtrained.
Itīs the same with these routines with multiple exercises, especially for small muscle groups like Biceps & triceps.
If you ainīt done after say 2 exercises then you are just holding back & wasting time. I see kids doing tons of exercises in the Gym & achieving nothing...i wonder why :D
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I call him "little Mike" because he was in fact "little" compared to other top pro's of his era( Arnold) He was only 5ft 7 even though he claimed 5ft 9 . The guy was a born liar and loser. He did the typical workouts with more sets but only counted the last set. So he may have done the pyramid sets but only counted the last set as his working set. So basically EVERY bodybuilder does/did "heavy duty" if you think of it. They push them selves on the LAST set. But Little Mike only counts the last one. The one big difference is most guys will do 2 or more exercises per bodypart so about 5 sets per exercise. So they do 10 sets ( or more if they do 3 or more exercises) but Little Mike only counts the last set of each exercise so that would be "2 " sets . smh. And if you don't do lots of different exercises and only lift heavy all the time your physique doesn't "pop" like Arnolds or any of the others. Mike is gone and so is Ray and so is Casey and jones. But notice how these fucktards that hug little Mikes nuts never talks the same about Viator or jones or even Ray? They trained normal and kept their mouths shut. But Mike was the type who was so mentally screwed up that the more he was proven wrong the harder he tried to convince people he was right. And look what it got him. But then again us normal bodybuilders are doing the same but in reverse. We keep trying to get you methead nut huggers to see how wrong he was and we keep responding to the shitty posts you all make about Mike. So here it is. He was wrong. Wrong about almost everything. He didn't win the olympia didn't come close. He lost his mind did drugs and he died. Let him rest Stop trying to convince us he was a genius or the best or was right etc. HE WASN'T ANY OF THAT!!!
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Mentzer sucks.
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I call him "little Mike" because he was in fact "little" compared to other top pro's of his era( Arnold) He was only 5ft 7 even though he claimed 5ft 9 . The guy was a born liar and loser. He did the typical workouts with more sets but only counted the last set. So he may have done the pyramid sets but only counted the last set as his working set. So basically EVERY bodybuilder does/did "heavy duty" if you think of it. They push them selves on the LAST set. But Little Mike only counts the last one. The one big difference is most guys will do 2 or more exercises per bodypart so about 5 sets per exercise. So they do 10 sets ( or more if they do 3 or more exercises) but Little Mike only counts the last set of each exercise so that would be "2 " sets . smh. And if you don't do lots of different exercises and only lift heavy all the time your physique doesn't "pop" like Arnolds or any of the others. Mike is gone and so is Ray and so is Casey and jones. But notice how these fucktards that hug little Mikes nuts never talks the same about Viator or jones or even Ray? They trained normal and kept their mouths shut. But Mike was the type who was so mentally screwed up that the more he was proven wrong the harder he tried to convince people he was right. And look what it got him. But then again us normal bodybuilders are doing the same but in reverse. We keep trying to get you methead nut huggers to see how wrong he was and we keep responding to the shitty posts you all make about Mike. So here it is. He was wrong. Wrong about almost everything. He didn't win the olympia didn't come close. He lost his mind did drugs and he died. Let him rest Stop trying to convince us he was a genius or the best or was right etc. HE WASN'T ANY OF THAT!!!
Well stated. 👏 👏 👏
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Lmao. Little Mike throwing around some "big" words trying to sound all scientific and shit. SMH.. He said NOTHING that any person off the street didn't already know. To gain muscle you have to push it beyond what it can normally do. PERIOD. Even Arnold in pumping iron said "the body may not be used to the 9 10 11 or 12 rep so when you do that that is what makes the muscle grow. And yes more is not better but neither is not enough. Look at guys from boot camp. & days a week all day doing everything and each one always comes out of boot camp more muscular than when they went in. Overtraining? nope. But mike would think they should only do it once a week for 15 minutes. Football" double sessions for weeks. Overtraining? nope. But mike would want you to do it once a week for 15 minutes. YES there are limits depending on your goals. So I guess a marathon runner would be better off training once a week for 15 minutes ( according to little mike) So I guess volume has no place in building muscle? Look at gymnasts? Hours each day and they are built. Bike racers. see their legs? The point is EVERYONE is different. Not all bike racers have huge legs not all gymnasts are muscular and not all volume guys build a lot of muscle. Little mike "theory" is come in do one set of one rep with the heaviest weight and have help getting it up to make sure you gave your all and then go home and repeat in 7 to 10 days. That is basically what he says. But wait all the experts say it takes at least 6 reps ( isnt that volume?) And after 12 is more cardio. This is not rocket science people. Train hard eat good sleep well and if you want take steroids. There is much more to building muscle than pushing the muscle to the limit. Food rest mental issues etc. But the biggest and most important is GENETICS!!! Little mike never says that does he. The body can and should be worked out every day But we look for short cuts and some people listen to little methead and his training because it sounds good ( less time working out) but it has never and will never work for any real boybuilder no matter their genetics or drug intake. PERIOD.
PARAGRAPHS
LOOK INTO IT.
Nobody likes to read a wall of text.
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Let`s not leave out the Melatonin, Walla Walla Onions,Duck Eggs, and Pat Banya sweet potatoes my old friend. ;D
Woah there bud!
Dropping too much knowledge for one thread to handle.
If people knew the magic recipe, they would all blow the fuck up from within.
Can't have too many mass monster walking around, it upsets the balance of life. ;D
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PARAGRAPHS
LOOK INTO IT.
I can't read a wall of text especially one that states facts I don't like.
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Hi bigbychoices 😂
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And yet, here we are, talking about him, his legacy, and his brother, 24/7.
That's because ever other thread is about him. We'd be talking about Larry Scott if ever other thread was about him. The only difference is that Scott actually won the Olympia. WOOSH!!!!
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Hi bigbychoices 😂
Arnold looking so much better than Yates here.
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That's because ever other thread is about him. We'd be talking about Larry Scott if ever other thread was about him. The only difference is that Scott actually won the Olympia. WOOSH!!!!
Reasonable argument. But Larry was no genius like Mike.
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Name? DVD'S?
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Reasonable argument. But Larry was no genius like Mike.
What theory did Mike originate?
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I would bust into her house from the back door and even King Solomon would adjudicate my actions with a fair bit of envy.