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This is pretty horrible to say the least. He spent his entire life in prison. Now he's 71 and dying of cancer and has to live on donations
They covered up the fact that he was not even in the state and was in Louisiana 🙄
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/12/20/glynn-simmons-oklahoma-prison-exonerated/71992287007/
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Well that sucks.
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Didn't read the article... but as often happens in these cases...
As the convict exhausts the appeals process and years and years and years go by....
D.A.'s go to other jurisdictions, witnesses get tired of returning to court, or die, evidence gets destroyed or misplaced or moved. The people involved retired etc....
Then 50 years later the eye witness doesn't want to go to court again, the prosecutor doesn't have pertinent records or notes from the original prosecutor... etc etc.. so the case ultimately gets dismissed, overturned, after 50 years of appeals.. and it's: look I'm innocent!!!
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A fucking shame and a travesty.
If the poor guy was healthy and a bit younger he could sue the living fuck out of them,but even money isnt enough compensation for years off of your life.
This happens all too often.
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Didn't read the article... but as often happens in these cases...
As the convict exhausts the appeals process and years and years and years go by....
D.A.'s go to other jurisdictions, witnesses get tired of returning to court, or die, evidence gets destroyed or misplaced or moved. The people involved retired etc....
Then 50 years later the eye witness doesn't want to go to court again, the prosecutor doesn't have pertinent records or notes from the original prosecutor... etc etc.. so the case ultimately gets dismissed, overturned, after 50 years of appeals.. and it's: look I'm innocent!!!
Very good points also doc.
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Didn't read the article... but as often happens in these cases...
As the convict exhausts the appeals process and years and years and years go by....
D.A.'s go to other jurisdictions, witnesses get tired of returning to court, or die, evidence gets destroyed or misplaced or moved. The people involved retired etc....
Then 50 years later the eye witness doesn't want to go to court again, the prosecutor doesn't have pertinent records or notes from the original prosecutor... etc etc.. so the case ultimately gets dismissed, overturned, after 50 years of appeals.. and it's: look I'm innocent!!!
Sounds logical, but is there a study to back it up? I realize that some of these wrongful convictions are just a matter of technicality but is it a vast majority of them?
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This is pretty horrible to say the least. He spent his entire life in prison. Now he's 71 and dying of cancer and has to live on donations
They covered up the fact that he was not even in the state and was in Louisiana 🙄
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/12/20/glynn-simmons-oklahoma-prison-exonerated/71992287007/
It wouldn't be anything other than local news if he was white
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It wouldn't be anything other than local news if he was white
Very true!!
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Like I ALWAYS say sometimes......about a guy that has fucked me over bigtime......sooner or later he has to cross a street.
Whoops,my bad,didn`t see you there pally,sun got in my eyes.....you`ll be OK though..... once they fix the head trauma and the two broken legs !!
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These guys falsely accused must be so bitter. I'd be ready to go on a killing spree when I got out.
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Sounds logical, but is there a study to back it up? I realize that some of these wrongful convictions are just a matter of technicality but is it a vast majority of them?
What would you need a study for?
For example, this case "they covered up the fact he wasn't even in the state". Well who's 'they' ? Do you mean to tell me he had the right to a trial and his defense attorney never brought up the fact that he was 'out of state'? Sounds like it took him 50 years to come up with an excuse that now can't be refuted due to the passage of time.
"They" covered it up. Well that's what you have an attorney for. You're looking at 50 years in the slammer and your attorney fails to represent you? Fails to bring up that you're not even in the state? And you’re OK with it? Nah. Bullshit. If that's the case then ol' Gail is too stupid to be among the free.
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Didn't read the article... but as often happens in these cases...
As the convict exhausts the appeals process and years and years and years go by....
D.A.'s go to other jurisdictions, witnesses get tired of returning to court, or die, evidence gets destroyed or misplaced or moved. The people involved retired etc....
Then 50 years later the eye witness doesn't want to go to court again, the prosecutor doesn't have pertinent records or notes from the original prosecutor... etc etc.. so the case ultimately gets dismissed, overturned, after 50 years of appeals.. and it's: look I'm innocent!!!
The guy wasn't in the state and had witnesses to prove, that evidence along with other crucial pieces was supressed by the prosecutor. Its called prosecutorial misconduct...look it up sometime. He should have never been in prison
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The guy wasn't in the state and had witnesses to prove, that evidence along with other crucial pieces was supressed by the prosecutor. Its called prosecutorial misconduct...look it up sometime. He should have never been in prison
What about his defense? Did his defense team suppress that as well? If that's the case then those other people should be held responsible for their actions.
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What about his defense? Did his defense team suppress that as well? If that's the case then those other people should be held responsible for their actions.
The prosecutor never turned over the evidence to the defense. If the defense brought it up that he was in Louisana, the prosecutor would have objected for hearsay. The biggest thing was that the prosecutor never turned over the police report that said specifically that other eyewitnesses identified completely different people. These prosecutors have done this many times so they know what to do to screw someone in court
It really didn't matter because he obviously had a public defender and usually they are more interested in clearing their case files than actually doing anything for their clients not to mention that the public defender and prosecutor get their paychecks from the same place.
But at this point, who are you going to punish??? Most of these people are dead or in nursing homes. Prosecutors just want to win at any cost to keep their conviction record up for political aspirations. For that, they will lie and cheat to win.
Even being out, he's basically on death row having cancer. Because he was in prison all of his life, he has no savings or money, and is living on donations so he can't go out and travel and truly catch up on life. Compensation is years away if he even gets it as I'm sure they will fight tooth and nail. Just some sad shit
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The prosecutor never turned over the evidence to the defense. If the defense brought it up that he was in Louisana, the prosecutor would have objected for hearsay. The biggest thing was that the prosecutor never turned over the police report that said specifically that other eyewitnesses identified completely different people. These prosecutors have done this many times so they know what to do to screw someone in court
It really didn't matter because he obviously had a public defender and usually they are more interested in clearing their case files than actually doing anything for their clients not to mention that the public defender and prosecutor get their paychecks from the same place.
But at this point, who are you going to punish??? Most of these people are dead or in nursing homes. Prosecutors just want to win at any cost to keep their conviction record up for political aspirations. For that, they will lie and cheat to win.
Even being out, he's basically on death row having cancer. Because he was in prison all of his life, he has no savings or money, and is living on donations so he can't go out and travel and truly catch up on life. Compensation is years away if he even gets it as I'm sure they will fight tooth and nail. Just some sad shit
In cases of false imprisonment I thought there was a minimum amount that is given to the victim immediately? Even though the actually settlement can take time.
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The prosecutor never turned over the evidence to the defense. If the defense brought it up that he was in Louisana, the prosecutor would have objected for hearsay. The biggest thing was that the prosecutor never turned over the police report that said specifically that other eyewitnesses identified completely different people. These prosecutors have done this many times so they know what to do to screw someone in court
It really didn't matter because he obviously had a public defender and usually they are more interested in clearing their case files than actually doing anything for their clients not to mention that the public defender and prosecutor get their paychecks from the same place.
But at this point, who are you going to punish??? Most of these people are dead or in nursing homes. Prosecutors just want to win at any cost to keep their conviction record up for political aspirations. For that, they will lie and cheat to win.
Even being out, he's basically on death row having cancer. Because he was in prison all of his life, he has no savings or money, and is living on donations so he can't go out and travel and truly catch up on life. Compensation is years away if he even gets it as I'm sure they will fight tooth and nail. Just some sad shit
If he spent all that time locked up as an innocent man, it's absolutely terrible. But why did he not tell his defense that he was out of state? Why didn't his defense follow up for proof? We're blaming the prosecutor but his public defender could have easily proven the same thing based off of him telling them where he was, right?
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If he spent all that time locked up as an innocent man, it's absolutely terrible. But why did he not tell his defense that he was out of state? Why didn't his defense follow up for proof? We're blaming the prosecutor but his public defender could have easily proven the same thing based off of him telling them where he was, right?
Without proof, its hearsay I suppose. Wouldn't happen in this day and age of cameras and cell phones but not in the 1970's. But yea, I would agree that his public defender was shitty but they usually are
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In 1969 Senator Ted Kennedy was driving drunk and drove his car into a bay... leaving the woman in the car behind to die. He saved himself. He went home and he didn’t report the incident until he was sober.
At that point I believe that someone already discovered the Senator’s car... and recovered the woman’s dead body.
How much prison time did Ted Kennedy serve??
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The prosecutor never turned over the evidence to the defense. If the defense brought it up that he was in Louisana, the prosecutor would have objected for hearsay. The biggest thing was that the prosecutor never turned over the police report that said specifically that other eyewitnesses identified completely different people. These prosecutors have done this many times so they know what to do to screw someone in court
It really didn't matter because he obviously had a public defender and usually they are more interested in clearing their case files than actually doing anything for their clients not to mention that the public defender and prosecutor get their paychecks from the same place.
But at this point, who are you going to punish??? Most of these people are dead or in nursing homes. Prosecutors just want to win at any cost to keep their conviction record up for political aspirations. For that, they will lie and cheat to win.
Even being out, he's basically on death row having cancer. Because he was in prison all of his life, he has no savings or money, and is living on donations so he can't go out and travel and truly catch up on life. Compensation is years away if he even gets it as I'm sure they will fight tooth and nail. Just some sad shit
I get what you're saying. It's not about the specifics of how or when someone demonstrated or tried to or didn't try to show that he was elsewhere.
You're pointing to perverse incentives which are inherent to the system and which corrupt the operation of the system such that it produces outcomes contrary to the reason you're told it exists. To produce justice.
So my question to you is:
Do you think just maybe this isn't specific to prosecutors and public defenders? Do we see it in war policy, public health, economic and social engineering, etc?
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all black people should be put into jail upon birth, i say send him back
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I get what you're saying. It's not about the specifics of how or when someone demonstrated or tried to or didn't try to show that he was elsewhere.
You're pointing to perverse incentives which are inherent to the system and which corrupt the operation of the system such that it produces outcomes contrary to the reason you're told it exists. To produce justice.
So my question to you is:
Do you think just maybe this isn't specific to prosecutors and public defenders? Do we see it in war policy, public health, economic and social engineering, etc?
I think its political. These prosecutors do anything not to lose these cases even if the person is likely innocent of the charges. If you ask him, he's not going to give a shit. The ironic thing is that he would have gotten treatment for cancer in prison...now that he's out, he has to solict donations.
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I think its political. These prosecutors do anything not to lose these cases even if the person is likely innocent of the charges. If you ask him, he's not going to give a shit. The ironic thing is that he would have gotten treatment for cancer in prison...now that he's out, he has to solict donations.
For what it's worth, I agree innocent people shouldn't be thrown in jail for 50 years. Not exactly a controversial stance, except for in this thread.
I don't agree anyone should get free health care. It's not a right. It's a service like any other, and when it's run by government you get crappy service and sky high costs, as well as perverse incentives for administrators and customers.
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I think its political. These prosecutors do anything not to lose these cases even if the person is likely innocent of the charges. If you ask him, he's not going to give a shit. The ironic thing is that he would have gotten treatment for cancer in prison...now that he's out, he has to solict donations.
That's a major problem with the criminal justice system. All these guys care about is winning. Prosecutors build their careers by locking guys up and it leads to becoming judges or politicians. Defense attorneys who win often charge a lot more money and become rich.
Watching shows like Forensic Files, American Justice and the like shows how prosecutors and the police never admit when they are wrong even if DNA evidence clears a guy who has been unjustly locked up for years.
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Throw in a few BJs and it could get someone all the way to the Vice Presidency.
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If he spent all that time locked up as an innocent man, it's absolutely terrible. But why did he not tell his defense that he was out of state? Why didn't his defense follow up for proof? We're blaming the prosecutor but his public defender could have easily proven the same thing based off of him telling them where he was, right?
Are you really surprised that a black man in Louisiana in 1970 experienced a gross miscarriage of justice??
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Didn't read the article...
It’s a short article, even someone of meager ability like yourself ought to be able to read it in five minutes. Anyways, your posts are wrong on all counts. Read the article if you want to find out why.
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Are you really surprised that a black man in Louisiana in 1970 experienced a gross miscarriage of justice??
Yes.
The 'Civil rights movement ' erupted in the 60s and resulted in riots across the country. Cities like Detroit for went from world class to ghettos in the span of a few short months. A member of the black panthers shot and killed 2 Detroit police detectives who were serving a warrant and got off.
It's the same thing we are seeing now. Politicians and news media have been playing this game for so long, yet you think it's new.
Goodrum grasping at straws. I know what prosecutor misconduct is. And I know the law better than some has been security guard who wasn't good enough to cut it in the jail.
(For those of you who don't know, in the world of law enforcement Jail guards have about as much respect as loss prevention at dollar tree)
So your argument is he was in another state and it was proven 50 years later but he or his attorney failed to mention it? That is not hearsay, you hack. Hearsay is testifying to what someone else said. Even if it was in the reports and the reports identified witnesses those witness statements are hearsay unless they take the stand. And without the prosecutor to answer to the misconduct it's just an allegation. An unanswered allegation that the state isn't going to spend time fighting. Why: because he's already been in jail 50 fucking years and they have caseload of murders that just happened last weekend that they don't have enough time to prosecute. Goodrum has 'conventional knowledge' he only knows what he read in a news paper. No idea of courtroom strategy or how a D.A.s office works.
You're a D.A. you got a caseload of 1000's of cases thar you'll never get to....most of them from the last few years. Your supervisor drops Glenn's case on your desk "this guys up for appeal again. Still claims the d.a. from 1972 failed to turn over evidence. Good luck finding the witnesses ...again....... "your honor, the state would like to drop all charges against Glynn"
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It’s a short article, even someone of meager ability like yourself ought to be able to read it in five minutes. Anyways, your posts are wrong on all counts. Read the article if you want to find out why.
Unlike you or Goodrum, I have enough actual knowledge to understand how journalists misrepresent clfacts and circumstances.
Hahahaha Proudvirgin talks of meager intelligence yet still believes the media... lolol. Go take another hit from your filthy bong and be educated by the famed Jurist, Versace Venom Vince.
You know next to nothing. Just enough to call someone smarter than you 'meager' you AND Goodrum are perfect examples of Dunning Krueger: you know just enough to think you have an informed opinion. But you lack any real knowledge of anything related to criminal investigation, prosecution or courtroom strategy. Because you have exactly ZERO real world knowledge (only what you read in a short simple article) you doubt someone who actually knows more than you.
Anyone who cites a shitty newspaper and Goidrum as their primary source of information is a fair bit less than meager on the intelligence scale.
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It’s a short article, even someone of meager ability like yourself ought to be able to read it in five minutes. Anyways, your posts are wrong on all counts. Read the article if you want to find out why.
In fact my post offers an actual glimpse into the kinds of real issues that play out in court. A simpleton, like yourself, can't comprehend more complex arguments rooted in real world obstacles. It always has to boil down to the simplest of concepts: it was racism and a corrupt system.
You think that people don't die after 50 years, witnesses go missing, current caseload don't take priority over 50 year old cases, that the state won't drop charges on something that's pointless to keep arguing because they don't have enough staff to work murders that happened this week? Not surprising. Yep good old fashioned racism. I know you can't comprehend it, because you're a vegan, dope smoking, liberal, hippie, but prosecutors and cops gain nothing, nothing at all from convicting the wrong man.
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it was racism and a corrupt system.
I could give a shit about racism and the system is absolutely corrupt. Idk if you follow the news but activist judges just banned the leading presidential candidate from the ballot.
Ain't nobody bootlicking anymore.
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Yes.
The 'Civil rights movement ' erupted in the 60s and resulted in riots across the country. Cities like Detroit for went from world class to ghettos in the span of a few short months. A member of the black panthers shot and killed 2 Detroit police detectives who were serving a warrant and got off.
It's the same thing we are seeing now. Politicians and news media have been playing this game for so long, yet you think it's new.
Goodrum grasping at straws. I know what prosecutor misconduct is. And I know the law better than some has been security guard who wasn't good enough to cut it in the jail.
(For those of you who don't know, in the world of law enforcement Jail guards have about as much respect as loss prevention at dollar tree)
So your argument is he was in another state and it was proven 50 years later but he or his attorney failed to mention it? That is not hearsay, you hack. Hearsay is testifying to what someone else said. Even if it was in the reports and the reports identified witnesses those witness statements are hearsay unless they take the stand. And without the prosecutor to answer to the misconduct it's just an allegation. An unanswered allegation that the state isn't going to spend time fighting. Why: because he's already been in jail 50 fucking years and they have caseload of murders that just happened last weekend that they don't have enough time to prosecute. Goodrum has 'conventional knowledge' he only knows what he read in a news paper. No idea of courtroom strategy or how a D.A.s office works.
You're a D.A. you got a caseload of 1000's of cases thar you'll never get to....most of them from the last few years. Your supervisor drops Glenn's case on your desk "this guys up for appeal again. Still claims the d.a. from 1972 failed to turn over evidence. Good luck finding the witnesses ...again....... "your honor, the state would like to drop all charges against Glynn"
That man has been fighting his comviction since day one. It didnt drop on some D.A's desk. He was originally on death row in fact so there was a continuous effort. The sad fact is that nobody listened to him, the witnesses and the evidence were covered up by the prosecutor because he wanted to advance in politics
This was reported in every major news outlet because itwas an obvious travesty of justice. A lot of these convictions are being overturned but unfortunately there are so mamy more...not just black people.
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48 years touring and making records is pretty impressive even though I'm not a big fan.
....Oops sorry,wrong Gene Simmons!
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Didn't read the article... but as often happens in these cases...
As the convict exhausts the appeals process and years and years and years go by....
D.A.'s go to other jurisdictions, witnesses get tired of returning to court, or die, evidence gets destroyed or misplaced or moved. The people involved retired etc....
Then 50 years later the eye witness doesn't want to go to court again, the prosecutor doesn't have pertinent records or notes from the original prosecutor... etc etc.. so the case ultimately gets dismissed, overturned, after 50 years of appeals.. and it's: look I'm innocent!!!
Not only that but DNA is proof you were there if found. Not finding DNA isn't proof you weren't there. It's like finger prints on metal objects like guns or knives. Finger print on it proves you held it. Not having it on it isn't prove you didn't use it because of condensation, oil or even gloves.
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That man has been fighting his comviction since day one. It didnt drop on some D.A's desk. He was originally on death row in fact so there was a continuous effort. The sad fact is that nobody listened to him, the witnesses and the evidence were covered up by the prosecutor because he wanted to advance in politics
This was reported in every major news outlet because itwas an obvious travesty of justice. A lot of these convictions are being overturned but unfortunately there are so mamy more...not just black people.
Again. The manner in which the media covered it influences your beliefs.
He may have been fighting for 50 years but the prosecutor just moved on to the next case and the next and the next.... so yeah, when his appeal came up it was dropped on the desk of the most recent D.A. who couldn't give a shit, he probably wasn't even alive at the time of the original conviction. For the D.A. this case is an inconvenience that hasn't been a priority in almost 5 decades.Not only that but DNA is proof you were there if found. Not finding DNA isn't proof you weren't there. It's like finger prints on metal objects like guns or knives. Finger print on it proves you held it. Not having it on it isn't prove you didn't use it because of condensation, oil or even gloves.
Thank you. It's nice to see not everyone is sheep.
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I could give a shit about racism and the system is absolutely corrupt. Idk if you follow the news but activist judges just banned the leading presidential candidate from the ballot.
Ain't nobody bootlicking anymore.
Well that's great that you personally don't give a shit about racism. Bravo.
This case is framed as a racist system against a black man....the suspect in the case is a black man, this is not in dispute. Accusing the cops or prosecutor of targeting a black man....who the fuck else are they going to prosecute? A white guy? A Chinese guy. The target is necessarily going to be black.
Yes. What happened in Colorado is a result of the legislative system being hijacked and corrupted. Corruption in the criminal justice system is a myth. It happens. Any system operated by man is fallible and subject to error.
Accusations of systemic racism in the justice system are a joke. You can find dozens, hundreds maybe thousands of examples in the last 2 or 3 years alone of black criminals, shooters, robbers having charges dropped, or light sentences meanwhile white counterparts are put through hell for obvious acts of self defense. When it involves a white kid, not only do they go after the parents, they also pour resources into going after the gun seller and sometimes even the gun manufacturer. Absurd. Find one example of a black teen shooter where they've gone after the parents. But the narrative is so pervasive: white people don't get convicted and black people are given life sentences for a bag of weed.
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Well that's great that you personally don't give a shit about racism. Bravo.
This case is framed as a racist system against a black man....the suspect in the case is a black man, this is not in dispute. Accusing the cops or prosecutor of targeting a black man....who the fuck else are they going to prosecute? A white guy? A Chinese guy. The target is necessarily going to be black.
Yes. What happened in Colorado is a result of the legislative system being hijacked and corrupted. Corruption in the criminal justice system is a myth. It happens. Any system operated by man is fallible and subject to error.
Accusations of systemic racism in the justice system are a joke. You can find dozens, hundreds maybe thousands of examples in the last 2 or 3 years alone of black criminals, shooters, robbers having charges dropped, or light sentences meanwhile white counterparts are put through hell for obvious acts of self defense. When it involves a white kid, not only do they go after the parents, they also pour resources into going after the gun seller and sometimes even the gun manufacturer. Absurd. Find one example of a black teen shooter where they've gone after the parents. But the narrative is so pervasive: white people don't get convicted and black people are given life sentences for a bag of weed.
Gee it almost sounds like you think the system is captured and corrupt and these people shouldn't have power over us anymore. I agree.
Btw the guy you just thanked for not being a sheep volunteered for at least 3 vaxes. How many did you take?
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Are you really surprised that a black man in Louisiana in 1970 experienced a gross miscarriage of justice??
Sort of...I mean 48 years? Especially if he was in a different state and had proof.
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Again. The manner in which the media covered it influences your beliefs.
He may have been fighting for 50 years but the prosecutor just moved on to the next case and the next and the next.... so yeah, when his appeal came up it was dropped on the desk of the most recent D.A. who couldn't give a shit, he probably wasn't even alive at the time of the original conviction. For the D.A. this case is an inconvenience that hasn't been a priority in almost 5 decades.
Thank you. It's nice to see not everyone is sheep.
Point Blank, do you think he deserved to be in prison for 48 years for a crime he didn't commit??
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FREE GENE SIMMONS!
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FREE GENE SIMMONS!
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Gee it almost sounds like you think the system is captured and corrupt and these people shouldn't have power over us anymore. I agree.
Btw the guy you just thanked for not being a sheep volunteered for at least 3 vaxes. How many did you take?
What does the Vax have to do with this?
I know articles about people dropping dead from the Vax are common on GB but how many people do you know who are vaxxed that have died. I don't know any. Of the 3 or so people I knew that supposedly died of covid, as reported by the news, none turned out to have actually had covid at the time. So my position on whether or not someone got the Vax or not is it was their personal choice. The problem I had is with government mandates and vaxtards demanding people be arrested or having bank accounts frozen for not getting it. If someone chose to exercise free choice its their right and their responsibility. AFAIK oldtimer never forced his opinions on anyone regarding getting vaccinated.
I've said before I got the one shot J&J and no boosters since. I've also said I've regretted getting it. At the time, I had my reasons. I read what was available and of the options I felt J&J was the least 'experimental.' I had my reasons at the time but I also have regretted it despite not having any ill consequences.
The system has been infiltrated by soris backed D.A.'s....these D.A.'s the problem is these D.A.'s aren't locking people up. Quite the opposite of what you think the problem is.
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Point Blank, do you think he deserved to be in prison for 48 years for a crime he didn't commit??
That's my whole point, numbnuts, just because the charges are now dropped it doesn't equate to : he didn't commit the crime. Whatever he did, he certainly served the time. But if, in fact he didn't do it then No, he shouldn't have served 48 years in jail. My whole point is there are many variables as to why people win appeals after 48 years of losing appeals and it doesn't always equate to innocence but that is the way the media reports it.
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What does the Vax have to do with this?
I know articles about people dropping dead from the Vax are common on GB but how many people do you know who are vaxxed that have died. I don't know any. Of the 3 or so people I knew that supposedly died of covid, as reported by the news, none turned out to have actually had covid at the time. So my position on whether or not someone got the Vax or not is it was their personal choice. The problem I had is with government mandates and vaxtards demanding people be arrested or having bank accounts frozen for not getting it. If someone chose to exercise free choice its their right and their responsibility. AFAIK oldtimer never forced his opinions on anyone regarding getting vaccinated.
I've said before I got the one shot J&J and no boosters since. I've also said I've regretted getting it. At the time, I had my reasons. I read what was available and of the options I felt J&J was the least 'experimental.' I had my reasons at the time but I also have regretted it despite not having any ill consequences.
The system has been infiltrated by soris backed D.A.'s....these D.A.'s the problem is these D.A.'s aren't locking people up. Quite the opposite of what you think the problem is.
I know quite a few people who had trouble shortly after administration, and imo there's a whole lot more with subclinical issues out there.
It was a great litmus test. Really showed who's who in most cases, since most people only got it after restrictions and mandates. When did you take yours? Did you 'have no choice' lol?
You can larp as a staunch conservative if it helps you cope until the next time you go along with some regime bullshit or buckle under pressure.
We can argue about it if you want. Youll get all kinds of support. Most guys here will be on your side because they're like you. They also talk up a conservative storm, liberty etc, display flags and such, and they can't be counted on at all when it matters. They just want a pandemic amnesty, lets all move on, agree about trannies and critical race nonsense and Soros Gates etc, so we can pretend like we're all in the same camp, and they really don't like being reminded that deep down they're chickenshit.
Yeah, I bet you regret it. It must really suck.
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I know quite a few people who had trouble shortly after administration, and imo there's a whole lot more with subclinical issues out there.
It was a great litmus test. Really showed who's who in most cases, since most people only got it after restrictions and mandates. When did you take yours? Did you 'have no choice' lol?
You can larp as a staunch conservative if it helps you cope until the next time you go along with some regime bullshit or buckle under pressure.
We can argue about it if you want. Youll get all kinds of support. Most guys here will be on your side because they're like you. They also talk up a conservative storm, liberty etc, display flags and such, and they can't be counted on at all when it matters. They just want a pandemic amnesty, lets all move on, agree about trannies and critical race nonsense and Soros Gates etc, so we can pretend like we're all in the same camp, and they really don't like being reminded that deep down they're chickenshit.
Yeah, I bet you regret it. It must really suck.
Well you are making assumptions about me.
1. No. I got it before mandates. My own decision, my own accord. Based on what I thought was right at the time. I regret taking it because the evidence would show that it doesn't work, not because I've suffered ill effects. You are just as bad as the "conservatives" you condemn. LOL.j
2. I'm of a 'law and order' not a 'reform type.' generally speaking I'm mostly apolitical, maybe libertarian. Except when it comes to law and order. Then I have pretty strong convictions (oh, that's historical, ever since we've had a basket case for a president, with perverted creeps butt fucking each other on the senate floor, stealing women's clothes, leaving cocaine around the white house, I tend to identify more as a conservative even though I still really only care about law & order)
So you've made an assumption about me and the conservatives of getbig. I will make an assumption about you: it's easy to believe in conspiracies. It must comfort you or affirm you in someway to think there's a bunch of cops and prosecutors locking up black guys regardless if they're guilty. And it's a bullshit myth. In most cases: whether youu want to focus on the Vax, or this case, or politics in general the most realistic answer is correct. And conspiracy theories aren't realistic. I've laid out half a dozen reasons why this guy finally won his appeal.
Hell, GB has quite a few people who are openly racist. None of them would derive any pleasure from knowingly arresting and convicting the wrong person, black or white. People aren't that simple and base. They prosecuted this guy because the evidence pointed to him as the suspect. If he had so.e air tight alibi he should've presented it in court.
3. My point from the beginning is: prevailing in court does not always equate to innocence. Because I'm not going to take a bite out of the low hanging fruit. You want want to believe that all these black guys are in danger of being arrest and thrown into prison for no reason, go ahead. That's your decision.
4. You can stigmatize whatever you want. The vaccine, political affiliation, getbig conservatives, whatever. My point is if this guy was wrongfully convicted, it's not as a result of something as base as simple racism. And if he won his appeal it's nnot necessarily because he's innocent, he may be, I'm informing you and the other hammer & sickle, counter culture, dope smoking, hippies, (and you'll get plenty of support from them too) the real world reasons why court room hearings unfold the way they do.
Being a contrarian doesn't make you an intellectual. You're not fighting the 'system.' The counter culture IS the culture. The system IS broken, just not in the way you assume. And assumption, not presumption, is what you're doing here.
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Well you are making assumptions about me.
1. No. I got it before mandates. My own decision, my own accord. Based on what I thought was right at the time. I regret taking it because the evidence would show that it doesn't work, not because I've suffered ill effects. You are just as bad as the "conservatives" you condemn. LOL.j
2. I'm of a 'law and order' not a 'reform type.' generally speaking I'm mostly apolitical, maybe libertarian. Except when it comes to law and order. Then I have pretty strong convictions (oh, that's historical, ever since we've had a basket case for a president, with perverted creeps butt fucking each other on the senate floor, stealing women's clothes, leaving cocaine around the white house, I tend to identify more as a conservative even though I still really only care about law & order)
So you've made an assumption about me and the conservatives of getbig. I will make an assumption about you: it's easy to believe in conspiracies. It must comfort you or affirm you in someway to think there's a bunch of cops and prosecutors locking up black guys regardless if they're guilty. And it's a bullshit myth. In most cases: whether youu want to focus on the Vax, or this case, or politics in general the most realistic answer is correct. And conspiracy theories aren't realistic. I've laid out half a dozen reasons why this guy finally won his appeal.
Hell, GB has quite a few people who are openly racist. None of them would derive any pleasure from knowingly arresting and convicting the wrong person, black or white. People aren't that simple and base. They prosecuted this guy because the evidence pointed to him as the suspect. If he had so.e air tight alibi he should've presented it in court.
3. My point from the beginning is: prevailing in court does not always equate to innocence. Because I'm not going to take a bite out of the low hanging fruit. You want want to believe that all these black guys are in danger of being arrest and thrown into prison for no reason, go ahead. That's your decision.
4. You can stigmatize whatever you want. The vaccine, political affiliation, getbig conservatives, whatever. My point is if this guy was wrongfully convicted, it's not as a result of something as base as simple racism. And if he won his appeal it's nnot necessarily because he's innocent, he may be, I'm informing you and the other hammer & sickle, counter culture, dope smoking, hippies, (and you'll get plenty of support from them too) the real world reasons why court room hearings unfold the way they do.
Being a contrarian doesn't make you an intellectual. You're not fighting the 'system.' The counter culture IS the culture. The system IS broken, just not in the way you assume. And assumption, not presumption, is what you're doing here.
3. My point from the beginning is: prevailing in court does not always equate to innocence or Guilt.
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3. My point from the beginning is: prevailing in court does not always equate to innocence or Guilt.
Fair enough.
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Look at that cope go.
This is real easy. You took a path of no sacrifice. I can see that purity testng people is your thing, what with the flag and eagle etc, but you have to find a new thing now.
Don't take my word for it. Check with people who did sacrifice. Lost their jobs, went through all that shit. I feel sure they'll remember it. See if they agree you're a real backbone of the nation kinda guy who can be relied on when the chips are down. Or if they think otherwise.
Yes, of course you're a Libertarian. Who is vaccinated and backs armed agents of the state. You'll fit right in at the next Mises meetup.
It's a fucking clown world alright.
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Look at that cope go.
This is real easy. You took a path of no sacrifice. I can see that purity testng people is your thing, what with the flag and eagle etc, but you have to find a new thing now.
Don't take my word for it. Check with people who did sacrifice. Lost their jobs, went through all that shit. I feel sure they'll remember it. See if they agree you're a real backbone of the nation kinda guy who can be relied on when the chips are down. Or if they think otherwise.
Yes, of course you're a Libertarian. Who is vaccinated and backs armed agents of the state. You'll fit right in at the next Mises meetup.
It's a fucking clown world alright.
Good lord. What a joke you are.
Cope? With what? You? You haven't said ANYTHING worth a second thought. Since you can't 'cope' with the obvious alternatives I've presented related to Glynn Simmons you've had to turn it into a larger political discussion about vaccines. Talk about coping. Ha! I own my decisions. I'm 100 percent responsible for my actions. It doesn't take me 50 years to come up with a shitty alibi and blame the prosecutor for something I failed to mention.
I've given you legitimate reasons as to why this isn't a corrupt system full of racist D.A.'s targeting an innocent black man.
But that doesn't fit your world view. It just makes too much sense. It makes you feel better to think people are routinely locked up for half a century, for crimes they didn't commit, simply because they are brown? You are not original in your thought. You're not that bright. The your opinions are formed on the basis of what you don't know. So you assume such simple motivators like skin color, or just corrupt character. Because you have no real world knowledge.
. I thought you were more than a simp of such limited intelligence and life experience. You are worse than the conservatives you condemn. At least they have a rationale for their beliefs. You're just a fucking fool. I'm sure every argument that you insert yourself into turns into a discussion about vaccines in order to 'cope' after you get your ass handed to you. Clown.
One things for sure: you will never shock a feminist. :-*
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I could give a shit about skin color, man. You're the only one obsessing over it. I don't think innocent people should be imprisoned. Simple.
No one who resisted the vaccine regime is going to ever respect you. Thats just how it is. You chose compliance and short term comfort. Too bad if you don't like the deal now. You're the one who made it.
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I could give a shit about skin color, man. You're the only one obsessing over it. I don't think innocent people should be imprisoned. Simple.
No one who resisted the vaccine regime is going to ever respect you. Thats just how it is. You chose compliance and short term comfort. Too bad if you don't like the deal now. You're the one who made it.
Man...what the fuck is wrong with you? Are you illiterate? Is that your problem?
I don't agree with innocent people going to prison either. I don't buy the authors portrayal of the events. I know how D.A.'s offices are run. I know how cases are prioritized and legal arguments are formulated. And I applied that to what I know about journalists portrayal of the legal system. The oppression of the poor black man being obvious fodder for the simplest minds. Congratulations.
I made an independent decision to get vaccinated prior to mandates. I put a lot of thought into and had my reasons. My regret is simply that they don't work. It hasn't been a difficult decision to live with. Despite the fear mongering I don't know a single person who died from the Vax. I Don't know a single person, who knows a single person who died from the Vax. In fact it was after mandates rolled out that I resolved NOT to get boosted and this was before we knew how worthless they are.
What I advocate for is independent, objective thought. You are a hypocrite that questions sources you disagree with and embraces sources that support your subjective opinions, you fucking dung Beetle.
You, insisting on turning this into a conversation about the vaccine is as nonsensical as you disregarding the very obvious racial implications in the Glynn Simmons article! You know what's NOT in the article? Anything about vaccines shit for brains.
Holy fuck, there's been some dumbasses on here but you are the most intentionally obtuse hypocrite I've had the misfortune of dignifying with my time and energy.
*I'm quite certain feminists aren't the only women you disappoint. I can see it now:
Girl: Tape, isn't it supposed to be getting hard yet? It kind of reminds me of a worm. I mean small is one thing but soft too?
Tapeworm: I bet you gave in to the mandates, didn't you? You disgust me you have no more back bone than a common whore!
Girl: Tapeworm, I am a common whore. You have to pay up even if you can't get it up.
Tapeworm: it's only because you're a vaccinated coward. The tranny I banged last month , is unvaxxed and my dick worked just fine and so did his....I mean hers!
LOL...Tapeworm....fuckin g A, you said it man.
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And furthermore, since you are fixated on it.
I fail to see how making a decision, reflecting on it, gathering new information and recognizing (and acknowledging it wasn't the best decision) is somehow a bad thing.
You on the other are unable to have such self reflection and honest assessment. You actually are (somehow in your twisted mind) attempting to use it to discredit me. It's really remarkable that you are so far from objective thought that when faced with an obvious example of it you can't recognize it and in fact interpret it as a negative quality.
If nothing else (and there is PLENTY else) this alone demonstrates the level of retardation in your thought process.
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How the hell should I know? I didn't read the article.
Do you intend to keep playing Conservative Gatekeeper and thanking people who agree with you for not being sheep? You are one. How do you not see that?
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And furthermore,
You're right that it's not a big deal. For guys like you who sat around in comfort and security it wasn't a big deal at all.
Keep playing the King Shit Conservative if it makes you feel good. Nobody who held the line is buying it. You weren't in the fight, sacrificed nothing, and now you're gonna tell us what's what, huh?
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You're right that it's not a big deal. For guys like you who sat around in comfort and security it wasn't a big deal at all.
Keep playing the King Shit Conservative if it makes you feel good. Nobody who held the line is buying it. You weren't in the fight, sacrificed nothing, and now you're gonna tell us what's what, huh?
Call it what you want. Sounds to me like you fucked your life up pretty good. Probably because you lack self reflection and objective thought. Not to mention a total inability to admit when you're wrong.
I've fought for more than you'll ever comprehend and that is a fact, worm.
I'm not telling anybody what's up. I was commenting on courtroom strategy and YOU can't help yourself from obsessing over vaccine talk. Sounds to me like you fucked up your life Royaly and you're so bitter you stigmatized every issue to be about vaxxines and those who were in 'the fight.' LOL You haven't fought for Jack shit. And certainly nothing that wasn't entirely motivated by your self interest, most likely irrational fear. Coward.
Freedom of choice and personal responsibility. I live just fine with my decisions. You project your fuck ups onto completely unrelated issues and people. Sounds like the only person having a hard time is you.
What a bizarre person. Who the fuck knows why youve chosen this thread to question me about vaccines. It reeks of bitterness. How long have you been carrying this around with you? Fucking weirdo. You're coming across like a complete dumbass man. If anyone bothered to read through this, you have painted yourself to be a fucking bozo.
But I doubt anyone gives a shit. So bet I won't be giving you the honor of any more of my time.
What a failure you turned out to be.
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Sure, I'm pretty weird. Not a spineless stooge tho.
Just stop pretending to be a conservative. You had a chance to stand for liberty and you didn't. Own it already.
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Are the other guys on the board who stuck to their guns also weirdos and losers? Careful now. You talk to them every day.
I'm calling you out because you seem like a fraud. Look at all your thrashing around. Don't like being exposed?
Prove me wrong. Quote up all your old Fuck This Tyranny posts.
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Lmfao.
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What a big, dumb, piece of shit. Fucking A. Can't believe there's statues of him. A low point in human history.
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Agreed. Nothing of value was lost.
Now, do you have any "FJB's mandates" posts to share so I have to eat my words right in front of everyone? Own me.
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Agreed. Nothing of value was lost.
Now, do you have any "FJB's mandates" posts to share so I have to eat my words right in front of everyone? Own me.
Tapeworm is upset that I got a vaccine and I didn't die as a result. He's upset that I'm not a real conservative ....uh yeah....gee.... uhm.... ok...great. If these real conservatives include you then Im good. I think ill pass. (Btw, where are all the people you 'stood your ground' with? Oh they got their
jobs back and they don't want to associate with you? Ok.) Lololololol No wonder you're so bitter..
P.S. The flag and eagle avatar is one of the options GB has available to set for your icon. It's not a political statement.
Your hysterics are borderline feminine levels. You should really get your estrogen checked.
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No history of repudiating Biden's mandates. Got it.
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No history of repudiating Biden's mandates. Got it.
Is that what you read?
I'll help you out. I called you a loser who fucked your own life.
If you want to read my posts condemning Biden or mandates then go look them up, there's plenty of them. It probably won't help you though, you clearly can't read worth a shit.
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Still? Ok.
Are all the guys here who didn't obey mandates losers who fucked their own lives?
You avoided this question earlier. Let's revisit it now.
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Still? Ok.
Are all the guys here who didn't obey mandates losers who fucked their own lives?
You avoided this question earlier. Let's revisit it now.
You know, I answered it. Numerous times. Not that I had to. I don't answer to you. And you've created a conversation that you are only having with yourself. In addition to being illiterate, you're a liar and a coward too. Your wife must cry herself to sleep every night. Poor thing.
Man, it really burns you up. Really having a hard time living with your decisions. Imagine the shame she lives with. She thought you were the kind of guy who stood for your convictions. Really, youre just a guy who argues with yourself internet.
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You know, I answered it. Numerous times. Not that I had to. I don't answer to you. And you've created a conversation that you are only having with yourself. In addition to being illiterate, you're a liar and a coward too. Your wife must cry herself to sleep every night. Poor thing.
Man, it really burns you up. Really having a hard time living with your decisions. Imagine the shame she lives with. She thought you were the kind of guy who stood for your convictions. Really, youre just a guy who argues with yourself internet.
You're flailing wildly here.
It's a very simple question. Are all of the people who post on Getbig losers who fucked their own lives if they didn't obey Joe Biden's mandates?
Yes? No? There's no rush. Take your time.
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Jeez...You guys sound like a couple of little girls...
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Lots of aggression being tossed around about a dude spending 48 years in jail.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/449BpMxG/b8ccf730e9ed7aa89e7a1ac822e87a1126ae3f2e40059472b38d8af96a97f84a-1.jpg).
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Lots of aggression being tossed around about a dude spending 48 years in jail.
Maybe if the guy was to Shout it, Shout it, Shout it out loud he would have got out sooner.
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I've reached out to Scott Baio to arbitrate this very serious business.