bigger shoulders are due to more use of androgens ie. test and tren than were used in the 70-80's
Arnold took enough D-ball to kill a horse
dbol is a weak androgen and it's a class 2 doesn't bind to the androgen receptor like test and tren do
That picture of Dorian looking amazing pre contest loses to the contest picture of Arnold. Yes, Arnold trained with volume and Yates with one set to failure after non taxing warm up sets. If you train with volume you are forced to use lighter weights.
bigger shoulders are due to more use of androgens ie. test and tren than were used in the 70-80's
That picture of Dorian looking amazing pre contest loses to the contest picture of Arnold. Yes, Arnold trained with volume and Yates with volume also after near taxing warm up sets. If you train with volume you use moderate to heavy weights.
Yes- insulin, hgh, igf etc. had nothing to do with it, lol
Dorian trained heavierDorian trained heavier on the syringe.
Dorian trained heavier on the syringe.
Arnold was pounding D-Ball and he was shoulder pressing 50-60lb dumbbells.
It’ was simply too light. Especially for a guy who could bench over 400lbs
I`d much rather look like a prime Arnold.
Tbh Dorian had massive delts and lats but he never had the chest of Arnold, Arnold beat him in the chest department
Agreed brother! I'd sooner look like prime Arnold, Reeves, Draper or Zane than Dorian or Ronnie or Haney. It's not that Yates or the other two gentlemen are not great it's just that I have never had any desire to look like them. But the others? They are the ones I trained to emulate. I pretty much failed but that doesn't matter. ;DThose guys were popular when we were starting out so we gravitate towards them......plus they just plain old looked fucking better.........PERIOD!! LOL :D
Todays guys delts are bigger than their pecs...........symmetry and proportion......NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!111
or arms
the typical bb of nowadays, big back, legs, delts and bellies and crap arms and pecs
thier arms without the site enhancements they use would be even worse
Do modern BBs pin their pecs with oil too?
pretty sure they dont
think it's too risky
I think he's doing some variation of a lateral raise, not a shoulder press.
Are you kidding? The (upper, outer) pecs are one of the best spots to inject. Quads have always been painful for me, so I used to alternate pec and delt injections pretty frequently. Triceps, too, but I stopped because I've heard that people who do arm injections can get nerve damage.
Pec injections can look scary, especially if you're a smaller guy, but they've always been smooth for me, and I've never had a single complication.
These days I just do TRT SC. :'(
pretty sure they dontI have a little divot out of my left ass cheek from an abscess using Winstrol V.........fuck that garbage.............some painful shit packing it with gauze etc . etc.
think it's too risky
speaking of pinning i got an abscess from a quad inject and they had to drain the fucker and i couldn't train for 4 days in fact i'm not supposed to train another 3 days but i trained arms and delts today :D :D :D
pain was pretty bad but not it's much better and nearly healed but doc said not to train legs for 4-6 more weeks and i'm A-OK with that :D :D :D
he also said inject your ass not legs
or arms
the typical bb of nowadays, big back, legs, delts and bellies and crap arms and pecs
thier arms without the site enhancements they use would be even worse
Those guys were popular when we were starting out so we gravitate towards them......plus they just plain old looked fucking better.........PERIOD!! LOL :DThat they were, brother!
Happy Holidays to you and yours my good friend. ;)
I have a little divot out of my left ass cheek from an abscess using Winstrol V.........fuck that garbage.............some painful shit packing it with gauze etc . etc.
NO HOMO
Compared to todays pro’s, the two things that makes Dorian stand out...
His super thick calves, and his monster forearms.
Those are genetic gifts, yes. But today’s pro’s are often lacking both areas
thanks for the input
yep it hurts pretty fucking bad, though i was just being a cowardly pussy good to know not as much of a pussy as i think :D :D :D
now i swab the site before and after and i sway the needle before and after too
Makes almost zero difference, the evidence is clear on that topic
then what's it from ???swabbing or not swabbing you can get an infection
this was a deep inject because my slin pin would pop off the last part of the inject, now i do it super slow and it's not popping out anymore
thanks for the inputIt`s a long story but remind me tomorrow to tell you the gorey details. :D
yep it hurts pretty fucking bad, though i was just being a cowardly pussy good to know not as much of a pussy as i think :D :D :D
now i swab the site before and after and i sway the needle before and after too
swabbing or not swabbing you can get an infection
http://joallenconsulting.com/2018/10/08/to-swab-or-not-to-swab-why-is-it-still-a-question/
It`s a long story but remind me tomorrow to tell you the gorey details. :D
I swab the top of the bottles as well as the area I`m injecting.......I only do delts and glutes.
looking forward to it ;DFuck slin pins.......it`s like shitting an entire watermelon. ;D
i withdraw with a large pin and and fill the syringe and then transfer to the slin pin pre-inject
Fuck slin pins.......it`s like shitting an entire watermelon. ;D
Arnold crushing Dorian in that pic. Did Yates even diet?
(Pre-injury) Dorian’s arms, delts, and pecs were pretty well balanced in my opinion.
The answer is quite simple: Dorian Yates trained one all out set to failure, while Schwarzenegger indulged in futile high volume training. Exercise should be brief, violent and infrequent.
The answer is quite simple: Dorian Yates trained one all out set to failure, while Schwarzenegger indulged in futile high volume training. Exercise should be brief, violent and infrequent.
Agreed. Exercise should tear your triceps right off the bone. Exercise should shred your biceps in half. Exercise should leave you with incomplete body parts. Exercise should turn 1993 Yates into 1997 Yates. Good thought process.How do your other screen names feel about this?
The answer is quite simple: Dorian Yates trained one all out set to failure while taking enormous amounts of roids and GH. Let's not forget that Yates indulged in volume for the first decade of his training which built his mass and not hit. Let's not take things out of context as many do when it comes to Yates. Once he switch to higher dosages and that futile one set to failure gimmick he had injury after injury after injury.
Schwarzenegger indulged in high volume training which led him being 7 times Mr olympia and no injuries. High volume is best. Bodybuilding should not be should be brief, violent and infrequent because you will make very little progress if any at all training like that. Volume is where it is at.
There was a guest posing featuring Yates back in 1995. I met him and I watched his posing routine. My mind was blown.
However, that morning, Yates showed up at a local gym to train. I was not there for that.
But someone at the show, who was at the gym, said that Dorian came into the gym, did stiff legged deadlifts with 315LBS for roughly 20 reps... and left.
Course I'm just bullshitting as I always do.
“Crushing” is exactly right.
Frankly, Arnold’s deltoids look somewhat big.
Arnold 7 x Mr Olympia crushes Yates's 6. Arnold wins.
How do your other screen names feel about this?
But, alas, everybody deflates in the end:
Arnold is bigger than Yates these days.
Arnold has already had 3 heart surgeries, still healthy and still trains.
Dorian is fairly healthy, doesn't train anymore and does gay yoga.
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Arnold kicked the ass of a God-fearing African gentleman
Arnold Schwarzenegger 😊👊🏻
But, alas, everybody deflates in the end:
😉 Mike Mentzer ❤
Dorian made the right choice. His bodybuilding supps/name live on even though he doesn't feel the need to be looking like a gymrat/bodybuilder type. You can't fault that. This whole yoga/dmt/weed shit really made him into a better person.
His arms are literally 9".
How does he even look in the mirror? I'd probably kms if I went from 300 pounds ripped to 165 pounds skinny-fat with twigs for arms.
What's the point of living in an inflated muscle-suit for a few years, and then losing all of it? Dorian, with his injuries, would probably look better and be healthier if he'd never seen a weight in his life. :'(
Bros, I don't get it.
His arms are literally 9".
How does he even look in the mirror? I'd probably kms if I went from 300 pounds ripped to 165 pounds skinny-fat with twigs for arms.
What's the point of living in an inflated muscle-suit for a few years, and then losing all of it? Dorian, with his injuries, would probably look better and be healthier if he'd never seen a weight in his life. :'(
Bros, I don't get it.
not 9 more like 14
they look it because he has a very large ribcage
Dorian made the wrong choice. His bodybuilding supps/name live on only to make him money because he hasn't got any real skills. He feels the need to be looking like a gymrat/bodybuilder type but due to his injuries by training like a retard he can't do that anymore. You can fault that. This whole yoga/dmt/weed shit really made him into a gayer person.
🥰Arnold Schwarzenegger❤❤
His arms are literally 9".:D Maybe he accomplished his bodybuilding goals and now wants to live a long life.
How does he even look in the mirror? I'd probably kms if I went from 300 pounds ripped to 165 pounds skinny-fat with twigs for arms.
What's the point of living in an inflated muscle-suit for a few years, and then losing all of it? Dorian, with his injuries, would probably look better and be healthier if he'd never seen a weight in his life. :'(
Bros, I don't get it.
dorian wins cause he sucked off Joe Weider
Tbh Dorian had massive delts and lats which made his arms look small. He never had the chest of Arnold, Arnold beat him in the chest, arm, back, waist department for sure.
Arnold did 6 exercises for the chest while Yates only did 3 for the most part. Hence why Arnold had a better chest than Yates. More is more.
Arnold's back was better developed that Yates as the pics clearly show. Yates had more mass but that's it.
Arnold had bigger and better arms that Yates due to doing high volume. Arnold would do 4 exercises for both bi's and tri's for high sets and at times use supersets. Yates only did 2 to 3 exercises with low sets for the arms and never supersetted. That's why Yates arms looked like crap.
Arnold's waist was tight and small. Yates had the gh gut coming along up until 97 when his waist was too wide from all the gh he was injecting.
Overall Arnold's the winner. The hit clan can shove it.
Yo, take another look.
His upper arm is practically the same size as his wrist. He could wear his wristwatch around his biceps. I'll be damned if that's even 14". 10-11" at most, and I'm being dead serious. (i.e., it's smaller in circumference than the average American high school librarian's arm.)
Coming off mega dosing he would’ve deflated regardless but the empirical evidence has shown that the “Pumper” style of lifting, ages better than the one set to failure style.
Let's see this evidence
Easy. Viator, got fat, died at 62.Yep. CNS and mental burnout are the end result. Even if it was the superior way to train physiologically (which it isn't) it would still be inferior because of the dropout rate from mental burnout and injury. You can't make any gains if you are on the shelf.
Arthur Jones. Aged badly. Shrivelled up look to his physique for the majority of his adult years.
methzer bros. Both had health problems in their 40's that was permanent. Both had stopped training, got fat, looked older than they were. Both died in their late 40's.
Yates isn't even half the size he once was. Arms are like spaghetti twigs.
Compare the volume guys like Vince Taylor who was stil, in great shape and competing in his 50's while the hit guys had injured themselves and or burn themselves out with hit.
Lou Ferrigno, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bill Pearl, Serge Nubret, Dave Draper, etc were/are still training into theor laters years while the hit guys had stopped completely. All that going to failure guff tires out the cns quicker and causes early burnout and injuries. Hit sucks.
Yep. CNS and mental burnout are the end result. Even if it was the superior way to train physiologically (which it isn't) it would still be inferior because of the dropout rate from mental burnout and injury. You can't make any gains if you are on the shelf.
Easy. Viator, got fat, died at 62.
Arthur Jones. Aged badly. Shrivelled up look to his physique for the majority of his adult years.
methzer bros. Both had health problems in their 40's that was permanent. Both had stopped training, got fat, looked older than they were. Both died in their late 40's.
Yates isn't even half the size he once was. Arms are like spaghetti twigs.
Compare the volume guys like Vince Taylor who was stil, in great shape and competing in his 50's while the hit guys had injured themselves and or burn themselves out with hit.
Lou Ferrigno, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bill Pearl, Serge Nubret, Dave Draper, etc were/are still training into theor laters years while the hit guys had stopped completely. All that going to failure guff tires out the cns quicker and causes early burnout and injuries. Hit sucks.
here's the thing...
they ALL built thier size lifting heavier and heavier loads and that's a fucking fact
NO ONE will have big arms close-grip benching 90 fucking pounds for 20 sets of 10 reps NOT FUCKING ONE
here's the thing...
they ALL built thier size lifting heavier and heavier loads and that's a fucking fact
NO ONE will have big arms close-grip benching 90 fucking pounds for 20 sets of 10 reps NOT FUCKING ONE
Yep. CNS and mental burnout are the end result. Even if it was the superior way to train physiologically (which it isn't) it would still be inferior because of the dropout rate from mental burnout and injury. You can't make any gains if you are on the shelf.
or armsTbh Arnold was genetically gifted, not everyone has the genetics of Arnold
the typical bb of nowadays, big back, legs, delts and bellies and crap arms and pecs
thier arms without the site enhancements they use would be even worse
here's the thing...
they ALL built thier size lifting heavier and heavier loads and that's a fucking fact
NO ONE will have big arms close-grip benching 90 fucking pounds for 20 sets of 10 reps NOT FUCKING ONE
Nubret was a high rep guy. Fuller 30 reps of 30 sets or whatever... There have been others.
Paul Dillett - Vince Taylor ::)
Who says you need to do 20 sets? A couple of warm up sets and 3 sets in the 10-15 range.
Bill Grant had among the best arms back in the day. He’s still lifting with the pumping style.
you do realize nubret benched 400 right?
again HEAVY WEIGHT was lifted at one point in his career that's the whole fuckin point
so they never ever benched over 300 for reps right? :D :D :D :D :D
so he never ever close-griped benched more than 90 for for 10? hahahaha
here's the point..... THEY ALL LIFTER HEAVY AT ONE TIME hence that's where the got thier size, got gaylor get bigger lifting less weight??? hahahaha NO!!!! he just get the size he put on from the heavier weights
how do you make a muscle bigger? get weaker HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"so they never ever benched over 300 for reps right? :D :D :D :D :D"
Go ask them ::)
They were not know for lifting heavy
Also Heavy is a relative term - as what is heavy for one
isn't for someone else.
Are your training weights heavy ? How much you lift ?
heavy for me and the more weight i lift the bigger my muscles get
it's impossible to use the same training loads and gain size, if you slow down reps with more tension over the rep you still need to increase loads over time to gain size
How did Jesus train? HIT or Volume?
He looked good.
(https://cdn.openart.ai/stable_diffusion/3954196738cf8aea63f36e49db4be38eebbd6caf_2000x2000.webp)
How did Jesus train? HIT or Volume?Pure genetics. Just work as a carpenter built that physique with no gym workouts required.
He looked good.
(https://cdn.openart.ai/stable_diffusion/3954196738cf8aea63f36e49db4be38eebbd6caf_2000x2000.webp)
He was more of a cross-fitter/cardio guy.
Dorian trained heavier
The reason that Markus had better shoulders than Dorian:
Markus trained heavier and with more VOLUME!
dorian wins cause he never sucked off Joe Weider
The reason that Markus had better shoulders than Dorian:
Markus trained heavier
dorian wins cause he sucked off Joe Weider
The answer is quite simple: Dorian Yates trained one all out set to failure, while Schwarzenegger indulged in futile high volume training. Exercise should be brief, violent and infrequent.
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Sounds like my sex life
And both events take place in a shithole
Sounds like my sex life
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RMJ11 has really gotten to me.
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AbrahamG might be a degenerate homosexual , but there is no way he is as smart as RMJ11 and he is CLEVERER THAN beakdocter
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Arnold blows Yates away.
AbrahamG might be a degenerate homosexual , but there is no way he is as retarded as Rimjob11 and no way he is clever enough to be beakdocterAnd none are as amazing as me. ;D
And none are as amazing as me. ;D
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Let’s see what young Dorian vs young Ruhl looks like
Ruhl's bigger. Ruhl wins.
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Arnold looks like a winner
Yates and Ruhl are way behind
I am definitely not as smart as all those guys mentioned
Word on the street Abraham has a nice size cock, very balanced, girth and length
I am definitely not as smart as all those guys mentionedRoyal pain in the ass hears voices.
Word on the street Abraham has a nice size cock, very balanced, girth and length
I am definitely not as smart as all those guys mentioned
Word on the street Abraham has a nice size cock, very balanced, girth and length