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I saw a while back you mentioned 9-M-BC and Bromantane and you take them on occassion.
What are the benefits of using these?
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Bromantane as a stimulant. It's supposed to increase dopamine and I can feel it by how it affects sex drive. Supposed to not deplete you like amphetamines, it increases dopamine production as opposed to just dumping existing dopamine. I don't have access to ephedrine but would like to try how the combo felt. I love stimulants. Some say they don't notice any effect from bromantane but I notice pretty strong stimulation.
The other drug is also supposed to increase dopamine, and on paper to help a brain recover dopamine sensitivity. Some amphetamine users claim it has reset their stimulant sensitivity in a week, leading to lower stimulant dosages. I dropped an Rx stim after 3 years and took these 2 products and didn't miss the stim at all. It's a mild effect for me but it does improve mood.
If you try them ler me know what you notice.
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Bromantane as a stimulant.
I am not familiar with this substance. I quick browse of the internet shows that it acts as both a stimulant and anxiolytic, which is quite the paradox when you consider the nature of what stimulants are intended to do. The fact that it can both stimulate your central nervous system, yet somehow have a anxiolytic effect is interesting. I wonder if it is readily available in the US market by way of a prescription.
I love stimulants.
Have you tried cocaine? If so, what are your thoughts?
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Anyone try to go for a run? It surely wakes you up and it feels like a stimulant. It also has antidepressant effects and lowers anxiety too.
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Bromantane as a stimulant. It's supposed to increase dopamine and I can feel it by how it affects sex drive. Supposed to not deplete you like amphetamines, it increases dopamine production as opposed to just dumping existing dopamine. I don't have access to ephedrine but would like to try how the combo felt. I love stimulants. Some say they don't notice any effect from bromantane but I notice pretty strong stimulation.
The other drug is also supposed to increase dopamine, and on paper to help a brain recover dopamine sensitivity. Some amphetamine users claim it has reset their stimulant sensitivity in a week, leading to lower stimulant dosages. I dropped an Rx stim after 3 years and took these 2 products and didn't miss the stim at all. It's a mild effect for me but it does improve mood.
If you try them ler me know what you notice.
any pharma drugs that mimic molly?
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Bromantane as a stimulant. It's supposed to increase dopamine and I can feel it by how it affects sex drive. Supposed to not deplete you like amphetamines, it increases dopamine production as opposed to just dumping existing dopamine. I don't have access to ephedrine but would like to try how the combo felt. I love stimulants. Some say they don't notice any effect from bromantane but I notice pretty strong stimulation.
The other drug is also supposed to increase dopamine, and on paper to help a brain recover dopamine sensitivity. Some amphetamine users claim it has reset their stimulant sensitivity in a week, leading to lower stimulant dosages. I dropped an Rx stim after 3 years and took these 2 products and didn't miss the stim at all. It's a mild effect for me but it does improve mood.
If you try them ler me know what you notice.
I will let you know. I have it on deck to give a try. Thanks for the input.
One more question, how do you dose it?
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Anyone try to go for a run? It surely wakes you up and it feels like a stimulant. It also has antidepressant effects and lowers anxiety too.
I don't know... I got into running for a while. All I really got out of it was a raging case of plantar fasciatis. It honestly seemed to age me badly. After a year off running I looked withered, joints hurt, wasn't any faster couldn't run much further. Cardio obviously improved. I never got winded in daily activities or pick-up sports.
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Anyone try to go for a run? It surely wakes you up and it feels like a stimulant. It also has antidepressant effects and lowers anxiety too.
Does it come in a pill?
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Does it come in a pill?
Supposedly SR9009 and SR9011, they're not SARMS but theyre usually sold with SARMS and marketed the same way. In theory by altering your circadian rythym (which seems like an incredibly poor decision) it mimics the effects of exercise at the cellular level.... it comes in a pill.
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Have you tried cocaine? If so, what are your thoughts?
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The wiki entry is like an ad for bromantane, too good to be true. But users do report the claimed effects. It's not even supposed to disturb sleep!
I have tried cocaine twice or three times, and not that long ago, at an old age! It was underwhelming, maybe because I had something else in my system that counteracted it. I did feel a lift, like a puffed out chest feeling, don't know how to describe it lol. Plus a libido boost and strangely a kind of a romantic feeling. I don't get in contact with it often and would feel like a loser if I did it by myself, plus it's so expensive. But I want to try it again.
I loved ephedrine for a long time, and very low dosed amph like in an ADHD pill is just fantastic. Mind is bubbling with positive ideas and I feel so clear headed and actually more "grounded." It's interesting that amphetamines are used to treat derealisation and depersonalisation, it makes reality feel more "real" lol.
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I will let you know. I have it on deck to give a try. Thanks for the input.
One more question, how do you dose it?
I do 50mg of bromantane and I think it was 15mg of the other. 100mg of bromantane felt almost too strong by the afternoon if I dosed in the morning. But like I said some claim they don't feel it at all which sounds strange to me.
The 9-me-bc is more subtle, picks up speed over days.
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The wiki entry is like an ad for bromantane, too good to be true. But users do report the claimed effects. It's not even supposed to disturb sleep!
If it can simultaneously act like a stimulant and also like an anxiolytic, then it would be a wonder drug.
I have tried cocaine twice or three times, and not that long ago, at an old age! It was underwhelming, maybe because I had something else in my system that counteracted it. I did feel a lift, like a puffed out chest feeling, don't know how to describe it lol. Plus a libido boost and strangely a kind of a romantic feeling. I don't get in contact with it often and would feel like a loser if I did it by myself, plus it's so expensive. But I want to try it again.
One day I will try this.
I loved ephedrine for a long time, and very low dosed amph like in an ADHD pill is just fantastic. Mind is bubbling with positive ideas and I feel so clear headed and actually more "grounded." It's interesting that amphetamines are used to treat derealisation and depersonalisation, it makes reality feel more "real" lol.
Amphetamines like the ones used for ADHD (Adderall XR etc.) are great drugs that work very well. They're even used for refractory depression that doesn't respond well to most antidepressants. Most people that use them report euphoric effects with a great boost to their capacity to concentrate.
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If it can simultaneously act like a stimulant and also like an anxiolytic, then it would be a wonder drug.
One day I will try this.
Amphetamines like the ones used for ADHD (Adderall XR etc.) are great drugs that work very well. They're even used for refractory depression that doesn't respond well to most antidepressants. Most people that use them report euphoric effects with a great boost to their capacity to concentrate.
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awesome!!! sure i have ADHD was misdiagnosed with bipolar and mood stabilizers did jack shit for me, i'm implusive as fuck and cant conctrate more than 10 minutes at a time lol
will talk to a pychatrsit today in fact, i sleep 2-4 hours once or twice a day if i'm lucky
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Maybe that's just how you are and you don't 'have' anything. Or maybe we all have something to at least some degree and it's fine. We all have to manage our issues.
You seem to know what reality is. You're capable of self assessment. I'm not saying no one benefits but looking at the crazy high % of the population who are on them, and have a hard time getting off (and getting off), it's not unreasonable to ask how we're supposed to reconcile wild overprescription with the fact that physicians are infallible and immune to incentives.
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awesome!!! sure i have ADHD was misdiagnosed with bipolar and mood stabilizers did jack shit for me, i'm implusive as fuck and cant conctrate more than 10 minutes at a time lol
will talk to a pychatrsit today in fact, i sleep 2-4 hours once or twice a day if i'm lucky
Do you have negative effects from this? Or do you handle it fairly well? Ive struggled with insomnia for years.
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Maybe that's just how you are and you don't 'have' anything. Or maybe we all have something to at least some degree and it's fine. We all have to manage our issues.
You seem to know what reality is. You're capable of self assessment. I'm not saying no one benefits but looking at the crazy high % of the population who are on them, and have a hard time getting off (and getting off), it's not unreasonable to ask how we're supposed to reconcile wild overprescription with the fact that physicians are infallible and immune to incentives.
thanks for the input i just want to know the fucking truth man!!!
insomina sucks!!! and my implusiveness fucks up all my relationships yet some people still help me and i dont fucking no why as i never help anybody
had a scottish dude help me on the regular and always asked me how i am made me feel like a fucking fag talking about my feelings so i always said i'm ok, one time he didn't help me so i ignored him and never talked to him again
i don't wish ill on others and i hate bullies with a fucking passion and i get right in thier fucking faces
i think i may be sociopathic but my therapist says i'm an anti-hero :D
in 50 years or less they will be able to scan everyone for issues ie, cancer, mental illness and be able to diagnos and treat them correctly and effectively wish that 50 years was now
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Do you have negative effects from this? Or do you handle it fairly well? Ive struggled with insomnia for years.
strangely i make steady and regurlar gym gains must be the test and tren but i bet i'd do much better if i actually fucking slept
my drive and anger are immense so i use them to full advantage
was given off label anti-d's for this but they fucking suck!!!! maybe lets me go 5-6 hours occasionally and i'm not depressed AT ALL WTF???
slept 2 hours and i'll head to the gym with this a ficking blaring!!!!
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The only indication I can think of, off the top of my head, that a particular psychiatrist writes prescriptions responsibly is that he chooses not to prescribe frequently or at least less frequently than the average doctor.
I imagine he would know the industry standard for % of patients who receive a prescription, including granular data like age, economic status, how patients are filtered or not before he vs. others see them, etc, and his own prescription %.
I hope you get a good doc, dj.
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Do you wake up find a bunch of newly written Zero Hedge articles all over the room? Maybe you're Tyler Durden.
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The only indication I can think of, off the top of my head, that a particular psychiatrist writes prescriptions responsibly is that he chooses not to prescribe frequently or at least less frequently than the average doctor.
I imagine he would know the industry standard for % of patients who receive a prescription, including granular data like age, economic status, how patients are filtered or not before he vs. others see them, etc, and his own prescription %.
I hope you get a good doc, dj.
thanks man
if i have ADHD then meds treat it very well supposedly
my therpist says i have ADHD and OCD and that i'm a narcissit he also thinks i could be anti-social
besides insomina my main isssue is implusivity it fucks up my life greatly
molly is the only narc that treats me well, weed does fuck all, speed makes me an even more implusive douche and alcohol clams me down a bit doesn't make me more socialble still have this veer of anger rage just under the surface
i can be very charming and trick people but i can't keep this charm up long coz my implusiveness takes over and i say or do something stupid to fuck it all up ie, they see the real douche that is i :D :D :D
i have lots of apathy i just dont care, don't know if that's ADHD or narcissism
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Do you wake up find a bunch of newly written Zero Hedge articles all over the room? Maybe you're Tyler Durden.
wish i was Tyler my main goal besides controlling implusivity is to be nonchalant as fuck
like bill devane in marthon man but he is a sociopath no doubts :D :D :D
i looked up zero hedge but can't focus enough to really figure out what it is, saw there was something about far right and libertrainism
well i'm 1000% libertrain all drugs should be free to use without restriction it's on each individual to control themselves and not fall into addiction but the vast majortity of peeps are mental fucking pussies and they cant do this, pathetic!!!
far right don't know, but if that means total freedom of speech then i'm all for it
if what you say is true you should let everyone say as they please because your truth will superseed thier bullshit these cancel culture shitstains block freedom of speech because thier truths suck and aren't in touch with reality
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If it can simultaneously act like a stimulant and also like an anxiolytic, then it would be a wonder drug.
One day I will try this.
Amphetamines like the ones used for ADHD (Adderall XR etc.) are great drugs that work very well. They're even used for refractory depression that doesn't respond well to most antidepressants. Most people that use them report euphoric effects with a great boost to their capacity to concentrate.
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Have you tried amphetamines? Yes they can increase anxiety but they can also make it totally disappear within minutes. So I'm not necessarily amazed that a stim is described as an anxiolytic. Amphetamines can make depression completely vanish immediately and from what I've seen on forums is that in the US they are not infrequently used for depression, and it seems almost anyone can get a diagnosis for something adhd related. You can debate whether these diagnoses are "real" or whether they warrant a prescription.
I think depression can often be so severe that anything, even the risks of the drugs, is better than being a living-dead half a person. I think the main risk with amphetamines is the neurotoxicity. With rec use the dosages are so high that it will damage your brain. As it advances the damage becomes apparent, personality changes, motor control changes, later on they can't even speak. It's kind of unknown exactly how damaging a "low" dosage of say less than 20mg is over time. Probably proper sleep hygiene is very important, if it makes you skip sleep it will be all the more neurotoxic. At low dose it didn't lower my sleeping hours actually. Sometimes I took it and took a nap a couple of hours later. I was jacked up but could still sleep. As much as I loved the pills it's not something that is on my mind often.
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thanks man
if i have ADHD then meds treat it very well supposedly
my therpist says i have ADHD and OCD and that i'm a narcissit he also thinks i could be anti-social
besides insomina my main isssue is implusivity it fucks up my life greatly
molly is the only narc that treats me well, weed does fuck all, speed makes me an even more implusive douche and alcohol clams me down a bit doesn't make me more socialble still have this veer of anger rage just under the surface
i can be very charming and trick people but i can't keep this charm up long coz my implusiveness takes over and i say or do something stupid to fuck it all up ie, they see the real douche that is i :D :D :D
i have lots of apathy i just dont care, don't know if that's ADHD or narcissism
Ever try a 20g dose of mushrooms?
Or any kind of supplmentation like NAC / Inositol / Magnesium?
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Ever try a 20g dose of mushrooms?
Or any kind of supplmentation like NAC / Inositol / Magnesium?
never did shrooms
my friend who sold weed back in the day did them and he became violent and aggrssive while on them so i figured i shouldn't try them :D
i'm gonna look up NAC and inositol you got me curious now
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Have you tried amphetamines? Yes they can increase anxiety but they can also make it totally disappear within minutes. So I'm not necessarily amazed that a stim is described as an anxiolytic. Amphetamines can make depression completely vanish immediately and from what I've seen on forums is that in the US they are not infrequently used for depression, and it seems almost anyone can get a diagnosis for something adhd related. You can debate whether these diagnoses are "real" or whether they warrant a prescription.
I think depression can often be so severe that anything, even the risks of the drugs, is better than being a living-dead half a person. I think the main risk with amphetamines is the neurotoxicity. With rec use the dosages are so high that it will damage your brain. As it advances the damage becomes apparent, personality changes, motor control changes, later on they can't even speak. It's kind of unknown exactly how damaging a "low" dosage of say less than 20mg is over time. Probably proper sleep hygiene is very important, if it makes you skip sleep it will be all the more neurotoxic. At low dose it didn't lower my sleeping hours actually. Sometimes I took it and took a nap a couple of hours later. I was jacked up but could still sleep. As much as I loved the pills it's not something that is on my mind often.
if the doc gives me amps to treat ADHD will my tren interact with them?
i'm only on 20 mgs ACE a day and will not take it higher
he cancelled today coz he is sick so i gotta fucking wait til tuesday
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never did shrooms
my friend who sold weed back in the day did them and he became violent and aggrssive while on them so i figured i shouldn't try them :D
i'm gonna look up NAC and inositol you got me curious now
Here's a link with dosage, and the actual medical studies in the bio.
https://twitter.com/nootropicguy/status/1639028286905884674
Your friends mushroom experience is 100% opposite any experience I've ever had.
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Here's a link with dosage, and the actual medical studies in the bio.
https://twitter.com/nootropicguy/status/1639028286905884674
Your friends mushroom experience is 100% opposite any experience I've ever had.
thanks bro i'll have a look
i saw him shroom once and he got into a fight with a friend of ours and this dude had him pinned to the ground punching his face and he asked him go you give up and he said yes and then after 2 minutes my friend attacked him again with the same result :D :D :D
he did it in cleveland and got arrested for disorderly and when they put him in the back of the car he tried to kick the window out so they hogtied him :D :D :D
he attempted selling coke breifly but fellas were bringing guns to thier buys so he got outta that real quick-like
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Here's a link with dosage, and the actual medical studies in the bio.
https://twitter.com/nootropicguy/status/1639028286905884674
Your friends mushroom experience is 100% opposite any experience I've ever had.
Ive done shrooms quite a bit over the course of my life. And by that I mean a few dozen times. Usually it's been exactly what I needed. Experience was mellow, a little trippy/psychadelic , but mostly it gave me clarity. Hard to say but I could just see through people anx situations really easily, especially if the person/situation was full of shit. This lead to many humorous trips. .
When I was a teenager a buddy of mine had a 'bad' trip with shrooms. I could never figure it out. But the same thing recently happened to me. the last few times Ive taken shrooms, it was completely opposite. I felt paranoid, self conscious, overly worried about insignificant details. It was an odd and uncomfortable experience.
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Ive done shrooms quite a bit over the course of my life. And by that I mean a few dozen times. Usually it's been exactly what I needed. Experience was mellow, a little trippy/psychadelic , but mostly it gave me clarity. Hard to say but I could just see through people anx situations really easily, especially if the person/situation was full of shit. This lead to many humorous trips. .
When I was a teenager a buddy of mine had a 'bad' trip with shrooms. I could never figure it out. But the same thing recently happened to me. the last few times Ive taken shrooms, it was completely opposite. I felt paranoid, self conscious, overly worried about insignificant details. It was an odd and uncomfortable experience.
The only time I almost had a bad experience was when I looked in bathroom mirror. Then I said "nope" and moved on. I liked the calmness of my mind for a good time period afterwards - wasn't always "in my head".
I think the bad experiences are when shrooms are combined with other stuff, booze, etc, or when you're mixing with folks who are not on the trip. Best to do it small groups, outside, without other people around, IMO.
But it's also been 15 years. I know fentanyl is not something i've ever heard mushrooms getting laced with, I am paranoid about it, so I have been reluctant to do it again.
I would if I knew the source.
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Interesting thread, will bump for more juicy info.
I'm also into stims, primarily for working out since I feel I got no motivation or drive without them when hitting the gym.
Been doing it old school and taking the ECA stack for the most part, taking about 40mgs of ephedrine and about 300-400 mgs of caffeine. 20 mins before taking the stack I'll toss and wash a teaspoon of maeng Da kratom to get a little motivated and for analgesic purposes for my aches and pains (I'm 55).
Been doing this for years and I'm surprised it still works for me.
I wouldn't mind spicing things up and changing compounds if it gets me wired and motivated when working out just to give ECA a little break.
Will definitely keep an eye on this thread and thank you guys for all the valuable info.
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Interesting thread, will bump for more juicy info.
I'm also into stims, primarily for working out since I feel I got no motivation or drive without them when hitting the gym.
Been doing it old school and taking the ECA stack for the most part, taking about 40mgs of ephedrine and about 300-400 mgs of caffeine. 20 mins before taking the stack I'll toss and wash a teaspoon of maeng Da kratom to get a little motivated and for analgesic purposes for my aches and pains (I'm 55).
Been doing this for years and I'm surprised it still works for me.
I wouldn't mind spicing things up and changing compounds if it gets me wired and motivated when working out just to give ECA a little break.
Will definitely keep an eye on this thread and thank you guys for all the valuable info.
On of the supplement companies (hi-tech) actually makes a 'fat burner' called ECA STACK. It has 'ephedra extract'' methyl-Synephrine and it has something that mimics aspirin, maybe white willow bark or something along those lines. And DMHA along with a half dozen b phenyl alamines.
Take 2 of those and it works pretty good.
Years ago I used to take modafinil and kratom. Some of my best workouts, total euphoria. Just awesome. But the come down was just a gross feeling. When I came down, I came down hard. So I just stopped it. The come down wasn't worth the buzz.
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On of the supplement companies (hi-tech) actually makes a 'fat burner' called ECA STACK. It has 'ephedra extract'' methyl-Synephrine and it has something that mimics aspirin, maybe white willow bark or something along those lines. And DMHA along with a half dozen b phenyl alamines.
Take 2 of those and it works pretty good.
Years ago I used to take modafinil and kratom. Some of my best workouts, total euphoria. Just awesome. But the come down was just a gross feeling. When I came down, I came down hard. So I just stopped it. The come down wasn't worth the buzz.
The "ephedra extract" is such a scam it makes me want to strangle the one responsible. It's ephedra leaves which contains zer ephedrine, thus legal. Obviously there only to trick the customer.
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The "ephedra extract" is such a scam it makes me want to strangle the one responsible. It's ephedra leaves which contains zer ephedrine, thus legal. Obviously there only to trick the customer.
thanks for answering my question bro
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thanks for answering my question bro
Come on now broly. I considered your question but I have no answer as such. Everything interacts, there's no established special life threatening interaction between the two. I could speculate that you might want to keep an eye on your hydration and electrolyte levels. Both can increase BP and heart rate so that is something to definitely keep in mind. So increased organ stress is a possibility. Some antioxidants, like the mentioned NAC, might be beneficial. Might, we don't know for sure. As far as mentally, they might increase agitation and aggression but might also do the opposite. As you know, amphetamines can actually make some people less impulsive.
Similarly I've been asked if it's ok to use GH or even steroids if you've had cancer, or if there's a lot of cancer in your family. There's no really no way to answer that, you just have to make some type of cost/benefit analysis for yourself personally. Some with cancer go so far as to cut all dairy due to supposed increase in cancer risk. Milk increases IGF-1 through several mechanisms, even the fat in it increases IGF-1. But bodybuilders want optimal IGF-1 so it's a dilemma.
What do you think of my answer? :D
Ask a psychiatrist and he will most likely caution against steroids as they want as few variables affecting brain chemistry. It's not even recommended to drink coffee with ADHD drugs. But then some psychiatrists may add another stimulant from another class of drugs (like Wellbutrin) on top of the amphetamine/methylphenidate. So it all depends but they don't want you to experiment by yourself.
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Come on now broly. I considered your question but I have no answer as such. Everything interacts, there's no established special life threatening interaction between the two. I could speculate that you might want to keep an eye on your hydration and electrolyte levels. Both can increase BP and heart rate so that is something to definitely keep in mind. So increased organ stress is a possibility. Some antioxidants, like the mentioned NAC, might be beneficial. Might, we don't know for sure. As far as mentally, they might increase agitation and aggression but might also do the opposite. As you know, amphetamines can actually make some people less impulsive.
Similarly I've been asked if it's ok to use GH or even steroids if you've had cancer, or if there's a lot of cancer in your family. There's no really no way to answer that, you just have to make some type of cost/benefit analysis for yourself personally. Some with cancer go so far as to cut all dairy due to supposed increase in cancer risk. Milk increases IGF-1 through several mechanisms, even the fat in it increases IGF-1. But bodybuilders want optimal IGF-1 so it's a dilemma.
What do you think of my answer? :D
Ask a psychiatrist and he will most likely caution against steroids as they want as few variables affecting brain chemistry. It's not even recommended to drink coffee with ADHD drugs. But then some psychiatrists may add another stimulant from another class of drugs (like Wellbutrin) on top of the amphetamine/methylphenidate. So it all depends but they don't want you to experiment by yourself.
alright thanks cheif
was gonna add var in my next order but just can't justify the cost ACE costs like 60% of what var costs so i'm going with ACE again
don't know if the doc wil treat me for ADHD and yep he will not condone the use of gear so i wont even tell him bout dat
he cancelled the app coz he was sick so i talk to him tomorrow and hopefully he won't fucking cancel again
wish to fuck he just just script me molly coz this definatley cures me ;)
the whole world needs to follow my lead and turn libertarian