Van_Bilderass question

[beakdoctor]

I saw a while back you mentioned 9-M-BC and Bromantane and you take them on occassion.

What are the benefits of using these?

[Van_Bilderass]

Bromantane as a stimulant. It's supposed to increase dopamine and I can feel it by how it affects sex drive. Supposed to not deplete you like amphetamines, it increases dopamine production as opposed to just dumping existing dopamine. I don't have access to ephedrine but would like to try how the combo felt. I love stimulants. Some say they don't notice any effect from bromantane but I notice pretty strong stimulation.

The other drug is also supposed to increase dopamine, and on paper to help a brain recover dopamine sensitivity. Some amphetamine users claim it has reset their stimulant sensitivity in a week, leading to lower stimulant dosages. I dropped an Rx stim after 3 years and took these 2 products and didn't miss the stim at all. It's a mild effect for me but it does improve mood.

If you try them ler me know what you notice.

[OneMoreRep]

Bromantane as a stimulant.

I am not familiar with this substance. I quick browse of the internet shows that it acts as both a stimulant and anxiolytic, which is quite the paradox when you consider the nature of what stimulants are intended to do. The fact that it can both stimulate your central nervous system, yet somehow have a anxiolytic effect is interesting. I wonder if it is readily available in the US market by way of a prescription.

I love stimulants.

Have you tried cocaine? If so, what are your thoughts?

"1"

[oldtimer1]

Anyone try to go for a run? It surely wakes you up and it feels like a stimulant.  It also has antidepressant effects and lowers anxiety too.

[dj181]

Bromantane as a stimulant. It's supposed to increase dopamine and I can feel it by how it affects sex drive. Supposed to not deplete you like amphetamines, it increases dopamine production as opposed to just dumping existing dopamine. I don't have access to ephedrine but would like to try how the combo felt. I love stimulants. Some say they don't notice any effect from bromantane but I notice pretty strong stimulation.

The other drug is also supposed to increase dopamine, and on paper to help a brain recover dopamine sensitivity. Some amphetamine users claim it has reset their stimulant sensitivity in a week, leading to lower stimulant dosages. I dropped an Rx stim after 3 years and took these 2 products and didn't miss the stim at all. It's a mild effect for me but it does improve mood.

If you try them ler me know what you notice.

any pharma drugs that mimic molly?

[beakdoctor]

Bromantane as a stimulant. It's supposed to increase dopamine and I can feel it by how it affects sex drive. Supposed to not deplete you like amphetamines, it increases dopamine production as opposed to just dumping existing dopamine. I don't have access to ephedrine but would like to try how the combo felt. I love stimulants. Some say they don't notice any effect from bromantane but I notice pretty strong stimulation.

The other drug is also supposed to increase dopamine, and on paper to help a brain recover dopamine sensitivity. Some amphetamine users claim it has reset their stimulant sensitivity in a week, leading to lower stimulant dosages. I dropped an Rx stim after 3 years and took these 2 products and didn't miss the stim at all. It's a mild effect for me but it does improve mood.

If you try them ler me know what you notice.

I will let you know. I have it on deck to give a try. Thanks for the input.

One more question,  how do you dose it?

[beakdoctor]

Anyone try to go for a run? It surely wakes you up and it feels like a stimulant.  It also has antidepressant effects and lowers anxiety too.

I don't know... I got into running for a while. All I really got out of it was a raging case of plantar fasciatis.  It honestly seemed to age me badly. After a year off running I looked withered,  joints hurt, wasn't any faster couldn't run much further. Cardio obviously improved. I never got winded in daily activities or pick-up sports.

[IroNat]

Anyone try to go for a run? It surely wakes you up and it feels like a stimulant.  It also has antidepressant effects and lowers anxiety too.

Does it come in a pill?

[beakdoctor]

Does it come in a pill?

Supposedly SR9009 and SR9011,  they're not SARMS but theyre usually sold with SARMS and marketed the same way. In theory by altering your circadian rythym (which seems like an incredibly poor decision) it mimics the effects of exercise at the cellular level.... it comes in a pill.

[Van_Bilderass]

Have you tried cocaine? If so, what are your thoughts?

"1"

The wiki entry is like an ad for bromantane, too good to be true. But users do report the claimed effects. It's not even supposed to disturb sleep!

I have tried cocaine twice or three times, and not that long ago, at an old age! It was underwhelming, maybe because I had something else in my system that counteracted it. I did feel a lift, like a puffed out chest feeling, don't know how to describe it lol. Plus a libido boost and strangely a kind of a romantic feeling. I don't get in contact with it often and would feel like a loser if I did it by myself, plus it's so expensive. But I want to try it again.

I loved ephedrine for a long time, and very low dosed amph like in an ADHD pill is just fantastic. Mind is bubbling with positive ideas and I feel so clear headed and actually more "grounded." It's interesting that amphetamines are used to treat derealisation and depersonalisation, it makes reality feel more "real" lol.

[Rambone]

“You tweakers make me so damn proud.” - MM

[Van_Bilderass]

I will let you know. I have it on deck to give a try. Thanks for the input.

One more question,  how do you dose it?

I do 50mg of bromantane and I think it was 15mg of the other. 100mg of bromantane felt almost too strong by the afternoon if I dosed in the morning. But like I said some claim they don't feel it at all which sounds strange to me.
The 9-me-bc is more subtle, picks up speed over days.

[OneMoreRep]

The wiki entry is like an ad for bromantane, too good to be true. But users do report the claimed effects. It's not even supposed to disturb sleep!

If it can simultaneously act like a stimulant and also like an anxiolytic, then it would be a wonder drug.

I have tried cocaine twice or three times, and not that long ago, at an old age! It was underwhelming, maybe because I had something else in my system that counteracted it. I did feel a lift, like a puffed out chest feeling, don't know how to describe it lol. Plus a libido boost and strangely a kind of a romantic feeling. I don't get in contact with it often and would feel like a loser if I did it by myself, plus it's so expensive. But I want to try it again.

One day I will try this.

I loved ephedrine for a long time, and very low dosed amph like in an ADHD pill is just fantastic. Mind is bubbling with positive ideas and I feel so clear headed and actually more "grounded." It's interesting that amphetamines are used to treat derealisation and depersonalisation, it makes reality feel more "real" lol.

Amphetamines like the ones used for ADHD (Adderall XR etc.) are great drugs that work very well. They're even used for refractory depression that doesn't respond well to most antidepressants. Most people that use them report euphoric effects with a great boost to their capacity to concentrate.

"1"

[dj181]

If it can simultaneously act like a stimulant and also like an anxiolytic, then it would be a wonder drug.

One day I will try this.

Amphetamines like the ones used for ADHD (Adderall XR etc.) are great drugs that work very well. They're even used for refractory depression that doesn't respond well to most antidepressants. Most people that use them report euphoric effects with a great boost to their capacity to concentrate.

"1"

awesome!!! sure i have ADHD was misdiagnosed with bipolar and mood stabilizers did jack shit for me, i'm implusive as fuck and cant conctrate more than 10 minutes at a time lol

will talk to a pychatrsit today in fact, i sleep 2-4 hours once or twice a day if i'm lucky

[Tapeworm]

Maybe that's just how you are and you don't 'have' anything. Or maybe we all have something to at least some degree and it's fine. We all have to manage our issues.

You seem to know what reality is. You're capable of self assessment. I'm not saying no one benefits but looking at the crazy high % of the population who are on them, and have a hard time getting off (and getting off), it's not unreasonable to ask how we're supposed to reconcile wild overprescription with the fact that physicians are infallible and immune to incentives.

[beakdoctor]

awesome!!! sure i have ADHD was misdiagnosed with bipolar and mood stabilizers did jack shit for me, i'm implusive as fuck and cant conctrate more than 10 minutes at a time lol

will talk to a pychatrsit today in fact, i sleep 2-4 hours once or twice a day if i'm lucky

Do you have negative effects from this? Or do you handle it fairly well? Ive struggled with insomnia for years.

[dj181]

Maybe that's just how you are and you don't 'have' anything. Or maybe we all have something to at least some degree and it's fine. We all have to manage our issues.

You seem to know what reality is. You're capable of self assessment. I'm not saying no one benefits but looking at the crazy high % of the population who are on them, and have a hard time getting off (and getting off), it's not unreasonable to ask how we're supposed to reconcile wild overprescription with the fact that physicians are infallible and immune to incentives.

thanks for the input i just want to know the fucking truth man!!!

insomina sucks!!! and my implusiveness fucks up all my relationships yet some people still help me and i dont fucking no why as i never help anybody

had a scottish dude help me on the regular and always asked me how i am made me feel like a fucking fag talking about my feelings so i always said i'm ok, one time he didn't help me so i ignored him and never talked to him again

i don't wish ill on others and i hate bullies with a fucking passion and i get right in thier fucking faces

i think i may be sociopathic but my therapist says i'm an anti-hero

in 50 years or less they will be able to scan everyone for issues ie, cancer, mental illness and be able to diagnos and treat them correctly and effectively wish that 50 years was now

[dj181]

Do you have negative effects from this? Or do you handle it fairly well? Ive struggled with insomnia for years.

strangely i make steady and regurlar gym gains must be the test and tren but i bet i'd do much better if i actually fucking slept

my drive and anger are immense so i use them to full advantage

was given off label anti-d's for this but they fucking suck!!!! maybe lets me go 5-6 hours occasionally and i'm not depressed AT ALL WTF???

slept 2 hours and i'll head to the gym with this a ficking blaring!!!!

[Tapeworm]

The only indication I can think of, off the top of my head, that a particular psychiatrist writes prescriptions responsibly is that he chooses not to prescribe frequently or at least less frequently than the average doctor.

I imagine he would know the industry standard for % of patients who receive a prescription, including granular data like age, economic status, how patients are filtered or not before he vs. others see them, etc, and his own prescription %.

I hope you get a good doc, dj.

[Tapeworm]

Do you wake up find a bunch of newly written Zero Hedge articles all over the room? Maybe you're Tyler Durden.

[dj181]

The only indication I can think of, off the top of my head, that a particular psychiatrist writes prescriptions responsibly is that he chooses not to prescribe frequently or at least less frequently than the average doctor.

I imagine he would know the industry standard for % of patients who receive a prescription, including granular data like age, economic status, how patients are filtered or not before he vs. others see them, etc, and his own prescription %.

I hope you get a good doc, dj.

thanks man

if i have ADHD then meds treat it very well supposedly

my therpist says i have ADHD and OCD and that i'm a narcissit he also thinks i could be anti-social

besides insomina my main isssue is implusivity it fucks up my life greatly

molly is the only narc that treats me well, weed does fuck all, speed makes me an even more implusive douche and alcohol clams me down a bit doesn't make me more socialble still have this veer of anger rage just under the surface

i can be very charming and trick people but i can't keep this charm up long coz my implusiveness takes over and i say or do something stupid to fuck it all up ie, they see the real douche that is i

i have lots of apathy i just dont care, don't know if that's ADHD or narcissism

[dj181]

Do you wake up find a bunch of newly written Zero Hedge articles all over the room? Maybe you're Tyler Durden.

wish i was Tyler my main goal besides controlling implusivity is to be nonchalant as fuck

like bill devane in marthon man but he is a sociopath no doubts

i looked up zero hedge but can't focus enough to really figure out what it is, saw there was something about far right and libertrainism

well i'm 1000% libertrain all drugs should be free to use without restriction it's on each individual to control themselves and not fall into addiction but the vast majortity of peeps are mental fucking pussies and they cant do this, pathetic!!!

far right don't know, but if that means total freedom of speech then i'm all for it

if what you say is true you should let everyone say as they please because your truth will superseed thier bullshit these cancel culture shitstains block freedom of speech because thier truths suck and aren't in touch with reality

[Van_Bilderass]

If it can simultaneously act like a stimulant and also like an anxiolytic, then it would be a wonder drug.

One day I will try this.

Amphetamines like the ones used for ADHD (Adderall XR etc.) are great drugs that work very well. They're even used for refractory depression that doesn't respond well to most antidepressants. Most people that use them report euphoric effects with a great boost to their capacity to concentrate.

"1"

Have you tried amphetamines? Yes they can increase anxiety but they can also make it totally disappear within minutes. So I'm not necessarily amazed that a stim is described as an anxiolytic. Amphetamines can make depression completely vanish immediately and from what I've seen on forums is that in the US they are not infrequently used for depression, and it seems almost anyone can get a diagnosis for something adhd related. You can debate whether these diagnoses are "real" or whether they warrant a prescription.
I think depression can often be so severe that anything, even the risks of the drugs, is better than being a living-dead half a person. I think the main risk with amphetamines is the neurotoxicity. With rec use the dosages are so high that it will damage your brain. As it advances the damage becomes apparent, personality changes, motor control changes, later on they can't even speak. It's kind of unknown exactly how damaging a "low" dosage of say less than 20mg is over time. Probably proper sleep hygiene is very important, if it makes you skip sleep it will be all the more neurotoxic. At low dose it didn't lower my sleeping hours actually. Sometimes I took it and took a nap a couple of hours later. I was jacked up but could still sleep. As much as I loved the pills  it's not something that is on my mind often.

[Grape Ape]

thanks man

if i have ADHD then meds treat it very well supposedly

my therpist says i have ADHD and OCD and that i'm a narcissit he also thinks i could be anti-social

besides insomina my main isssue is implusivity it fucks up my life greatly

molly is the only narc that treats me well, weed does fuck all, speed makes me an even more implusive douche and alcohol clams me down a bit doesn't make me more socialble still have this veer of anger rage just under the surface

i can be very charming and trick people but i can't keep this charm up long coz my implusiveness takes over and i say or do something stupid to fuck it all up ie, they see the real douche that is i

i have lots of apathy i just dont care, don't know if that's ADHD or narcissism

Ever try a 20g dose of mushrooms?

Or any kind of supplmentation like NAC / Inositol / Magnesium?

[dj181]

Ever try a 20g dose of mushrooms?

Or any kind of supplmentation like NAC / Inositol / Magnesium?

never did shrooms

my friend who sold weed back in the day did them and he became violent and aggrssive while on them so i figured i shouldn't try them

i'm gonna look up NAC and inositol you got me curious now