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Title: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 15, 2024, 12:41:17 PM
talking bout eq, mast and primo acting as ais and the neurotoxity of the nandrolones

i have bipolar sans depression just extreme mania like right now in the cusp of it :D :D :D

i sleep 3 hours a day yet i am gaining muscle circumfrince all over my upper bod so i guess mania is good for gains ;D ;D ;D

dave says ACE lowers GABA not good, not good at all... probably shouldn't run ACE in the cusp of mania though lol

and bad news that primo hits hdl so fucking bad jesus christ!!!

guess i need to stick with var or dbol alongside test



Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 15, 2024, 01:24:38 PM
I believe sleep is "everything" for an athlete. :D
Whatever makes your sleep better helps you grow and adapt.

Anadrol and Dbol = subjectively better sleep in my case.

You talk about mania, but do you also get the "low lows"?
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 15, 2024, 01:48:48 PM
I believe sleep is "everything" for an athlete. :D
Whatever makes your sleep better helps you grow and adapt.

Anadrol and Dbol = subjectively better sleep in my case.

You talk about mania, but do you also get the "low lows"?

my bis are thicker and peak higher bracoradilus and short head growth

pecs are thicker as well

i never get depressed to full of rage and anger for dat shit :D :D :D

he's gonna put me on meds on wednesday but i like being in mania tbh

eating 80-100 grams of pro for both postworkout meals and shooting slin for the second post workout meal last 3 days shot 12 ius today was 20 ius 8) 8) 8)

does primo smash hdl like they say it does?

and will ACE increase mania? he gave me sonapax for sleep and it trigger this hyper mania phase me thinks

does drol increase anger? if yes i must stay the hell away from it

like i said it looks like me 2nd go to compound will be dbol or var
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 15, 2024, 02:12:49 PM
168.5 and lean and dry

should hit a buck 75 in this same condition within one week just watch and see ;) 8)
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: deadz on January 15, 2024, 02:56:30 PM
my bis are thicker and peak higher bracoradilus and short head growth

pecs are thicker as well

i never get depressed to full of rage and anger for dat shit :D :D :D

he's gonna put me on meds on wednesday but i like being in mania tbh

eating 80-100 grams of pro for both postworkout meals and shooting slin for the second post workout meal last 3 days shot 12 ius today was 20 ius 8) 8) 8)

does primo smash hdl like they say it does?

and will ACE increase mania? he gave me sonapax for sleep and it trigger this hyper mania phase me thinks

does drol increase anger? if yes i must stay the hell away from it

like i said it looks like me 2nd go to compound will be dbol or var
Put a shirt on and I bet you look like you've never touched a weight in your life!
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: illuminati on January 15, 2024, 04:08:02 PM
Put a shirt on and I bet you look like you've never touched a weight in your life!

Not to be deliberately nasty to him only
You're 100% correct

He needs to radically review his Eating & Training & get some sleep help.
Just far to thin & stringy , yet talks about PED's  ::)  FFS he's got a lot to sort
Out & a lot to learn.
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 15, 2024, 04:48:48 PM
Not to be deliberately nasty to him only
You're 100% correct

He needs to radically review his Eating & Training & get some sleep help.
Just far to thin & stringy , yet talks about PED's  ::)  FFS he's got a lot to sort
Out & a lot to learn.

i'm within 10 pounds of the weight cap for men's physique

i will compete in it this summer

once again.... i am not a bb i am MP or i will be ;)

learned a shit ton bout gear in the last 6 months and i will never ever run more than 500 mgs total EVER

i've already added 1/3 inch to my arms in 5 days but yeah i don't know shit bout training

and this stringy thing is why i will never use mast or winny ever again they make me even flatter

test, dbol, var will ne my go tos after i finsih the ACE
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: Raymondo on January 15, 2024, 08:48:36 PM
Stop everything and prioritise your mental health. Looks like the gear has triggered hypomania, get help before it gets worse.
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: visualizeperfection on January 15, 2024, 09:18:03 PM
What surgeon did your trap removal operation? Flawless work, as if they never existed.
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 15, 2024, 11:57:40 PM
Stop everything and prioritise your mental health. Looks like the gear has triggered hypomania, get help before it gets worse.

i see the psychartist tomorrow and he will give me a mood stabilizer and hoping benzos as well, but he's not a fan of benzos, so i'll have to use my narcisstic charm to get a srcipt for them ;)

i used depakine but it sucked ass and did jack shit pour moi so he's gonna srcipt me something else maybe lithium

i dont need an anti depressante as i have ZERO depression

guess i shouldn't be running tren but im only dosing it @ 20 mgs daily a tiny tiny dose

test will ALWAYS STAY IN ALWAYS but once the tren is finished i'll use my fav compound VAR love that drug 8) 8) 8) also it has ZERO EFFECT on neuroplastity

deca, tren and dbol all have neurotoxic effects shit fucking sucks >:( >:( >:(

and im quite pissed off that tren lowers GABA very fucking pissed in fact >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 16, 2024, 12:31:38 AM
What surgeon did your trap removal operation? Flawless work, as if they never existed.
:D
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: CalvinH on January 16, 2024, 07:18:33 AM
Not to be deliberately nasty to him only
You're 100% correct

He needs to radically review his Eating & Training & get some sleep help.
Just far to thin & stringy , yet talks about PED's  ::)  FFS he's got a lot to sort
Out & a lot to learn.


Have no fear he won't listen to anything he's told and will continue on lifting and eating how he wants.


...He's been rinse, wash, and repeat for years.
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: illuminati on January 16, 2024, 11:41:26 AM

Have no fear he won't listen to anything he's told and will continue on lifting and eating how he wants.


...He's been rinse, wash, and repeat for years.

Very True - Kinda silly of me to think otherwise  ::)
Yep I'll let him carry on with his delusion.

 ;D
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: BB on January 16, 2024, 11:46:17 AM
What surgeon did your trap removal operation? Flawless work, as if they never existed.

;D.

Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 16, 2024, 11:47:27 AM
Very True - Kinda silly of me to think otherwise  ::)
Yep I'll let him carry on with his delusion.

 ;D

hahaha

i will place top 3 in MP wait and see ;)
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: illuminati on January 16, 2024, 11:48:14 AM
What surgeon did your trap removal operation? Flawless work, as if they never existed.

Probably the same one that removed all the other Muscles .
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: OlympiaGym on January 16, 2024, 11:52:02 AM
He looks decent - just has the worst genetics for bodybuilding.
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: Grape Ape on January 16, 2024, 11:55:12 AM
He looks decent - just has the worst genetics for bodybuilding.

He's a real ecto, unlike the others here who refer to themselves as ecto, yet or more ecto-meso or meso.

The giveaway is the pec insertions - the ectos have it on the outside of their sternum, with the gap in between.  The meso and endos insert more middle and don't have the space, and get the shelf at the bottom.

This could all be broscience, but it's my observation.
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 16, 2024, 11:58:09 AM
He looks decent - just has the worst genetics for bodybuilding.

men's physquie not bb

check the waist to shoulder ratio

THIS IS MP

i'm a buck 52-53 here i'll keep this tiny wasit and be 172-173 ON STAGE this summer win city 8)

20 fuking pounds of pure lean dry muscle ONLY ON THE PECS, DELTS, LATS AND ARMS=WINNER
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: illuminati on January 16, 2024, 01:26:14 PM
men's physquie not bb

check the waist to shoulder ratio

THIS IS MP

i'm a buck 52-53 here i'll keep this tiny wasit and be 172-173 ON STAGE this summer win city 8)

20 fuking pounds of pure lean dry muscle ONLY ON THE PECS, DELTS, LATS AND ARMS=WINNER


Hmmmm , you're sounding like Bianca Bhanky now - 101 yrs no added  muscle mass
Yet THIS winter you're going to add 20lbs of muscle tissue  ::)  yeah right of course you are.

Get real  FFS , go buy 20lbs of chicken breast fillets & slap that on all over your physique
See how much tissue that is.
Why do you & Bianca post so much utter crap, many on here have competed & attained great physiques
Listen to them & their advice , and stop the stupid 20lb muscle gains talk.

You might want to chat like a newbie idiot - many of us have been there done that & know just how hard
It is to gain 20lbs of quality muscle tissue.
Go post in the under 17s talk crap boards.
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: deadz on January 16, 2024, 01:56:48 PM
men's physquie not bb

check the waist to shoulder ratio

THIS IS MP

i'm a buck 52-53 here i'll keep this tiny wasit and be 172-173 ON STAGE this summer win city 8)

20 fuking pounds of pure lean dry muscle ONLY ON THE PECS, DELTS, LATS AND ARMS=WINNER
Did we really need that picture, No! Red dots of peace :o
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 16, 2024, 02:00:57 PM
Did we really need that picture, No! Red dots of peace :o

it's shaving burns shitstain

SHUT THE FUCK UP
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 16, 2024, 02:02:34 PM

Hmmmm , you're sounding like Bianca Bhanky now - 101 yrs no added  muscle mass
Yet THIS winter you're going to add 20lbs of muscle tissue  ::)  yeah right of course you are.

Get real  FFS , go buy 20lbs of chicken breast fillets & slap that on all over your physique
See how much tissue that is.
Why do you & Bianca post so much utter crap, many on here have competed & attained great physiques
Listen to them & their advice , and stop the stupid 20lb muscle gains talk.

You might want to chat like a newbie idiot - many of us have been there done that & know just how hard
It is to gain 20lbs of quality muscle tissue.
Go post in the under 17s talk crap boards.

i've already added 5-7 pounds of lean dry tissue homie ;)

added 3 full inches on my pecs and 1.5 full inches on my delts dummy
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 16, 2024, 02:05:23 PM
dude is smart asf

and he's definately a libertarian as he preachers for each individual to try all and decide on his own what works best for him

don't follow anyone and be your own scientist let no one tell you what to do or control you FUCK YEAH!!!

Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: _bruce_ on January 16, 2024, 02:14:25 PM

Many elderly judges will call
1-800-DJ181
to get some of that juicy salami delivered into their angus - truly a first place "finisher".
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: illuminati on January 16, 2024, 02:34:21 PM
i've already added 5-7 pounds of lean dry tissue homie ;)

added 3 full inches on my pecs and 1.5 full inches on my delts dummy


Yes yes of course you have - You're already starting to look like a stick insect
Keep going you'll soon be 235lbs of contest ready condition muscle in just 2yrs. 👍🏻
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: _bruce_ on January 16, 2024, 02:39:29 PM

Yes yes of course you have - You're already starting to look like a stick insect
Keep going you'll soon be 235lbs of contest ready condition muscle in just 2yrs. 👍🏻

 ;D
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 16, 2024, 02:47:33 PM
i see the psychartist tomorrow and he will give me a mood stabilizer and hoping benzos as well, but he's not a fan of benzos, so i'll have to use my narcisstic charm to get a srcipt for them ;)

i used depakine but it sucked ass and did jack shit pour moi so he's gonna srcipt me something else maybe lithium

i dont need an anti depressante as i have ZERO depression

guess i shouldn't be running tren but im only dosing it @ 20 mgs daily a tiny tiny dose

test will ALWAYS STAY IN ALWAYS but once the tren is finished i'll use my fav compound VAR love that drug 8) 8) 8) also it has ZERO EFFECT on neuroplastity

deca, tren and dbol all have neurotoxic effects shit fucking sucks >:( >:( >:(

and im quite pissed off that tren lowers GABA very fucking pissed in fact >:( >:( >:(

All steroids can be neurotoxic. Victor Black just doesn't like Dbol so he's making claims that probably have zero relevance in practise.
Dbol often has amazingly positive effects on mood. Not in all. Not that that doesn't mean it isn't neurotoxic but it might be another avenue to exploit. Better you feel, the better your gains.

That particularly tren lowers GABA is something Palumbo pulled out of his ass, like many things he says. Some claim EQ lowers GABA too, it being the reason for its anxiogenic effects. Just speculation at this point.

Var having "zero effect on neuroplasticity" means what? I know people are looking for drugs that INCREASE neuroplasticity, meaning they can help rewire the brain, cure depression etc. Many antidepressants have been shown to grow the brain (in certain areas the brain actually shrinks in depression), new connections are seen: neuroplasticity.
Var could theoretically cause depression if it doesn't affect neurotransmitters much - if you are replacing DHT for Var for example by taking less test with more Var.

Gotta be critical of everyone's claims.
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: visualizeperfection on January 16, 2024, 03:34:54 PM
How does DJ maintain such aushwitz conditioning while having zero abs   ???
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 16, 2024, 03:55:25 PM
Many elderly judges will call
1-800-DJ181
to get some of that juicy salami delivered into their angus - truly a first place "finisher".

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 16, 2024, 03:57:10 PM

Yes yes of course you have - You're already starting to look like a stick insect
Keep going you'll soon be 235lbs of contest ready condition muscle in just 2yrs. 👍🏻

do you understand what is men's physique? weight cap for my height is 178-183 depending upon the fed
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 16, 2024, 03:58:06 PM
How does DJ maintain such aushwitz conditioning while having zero abs   ???

boyer coe symdrom

pecs are fuller and thicker now arms as well 8)
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 16, 2024, 04:08:10 PM
All steroids can be neurotoxic. Victor Black just doesn't like Dbol so he's making claims that probably have zero relevance in practise.
Dbol often has amazingly positive effects on mood. Not in all. Not that that doesn't mean it isn't neurotoxic but it might be another avenue to exploit. Better you feel, the better your gains.

That particularly tren lowers GABA is something Palumbo pulled out of his ass, like many things he says. Some claim EQ lowers GABA too, it being the reason for its anxiogenic effects. Just speculation at this point.

Var having "zero effect on neuroplasticity" means what? I know people are looking for drugs that INCREASE neuroplasticity, meaning they can help rewire the brain, cure depression etc. Many antidepressants have been shown to grow the brain (in certain areas the brain actually shrinks in depression), new connections are seen: neuroplasticity.
Var could theoretically cause depression if it doesn't affect neurotransmitters much - if you are replacing DHT for Var for example by taking less test with more Var.

Gotta be critical of everyone's claims.

so ACE deoesn't lower GABA? i sure as fuck hope that's so

test has to be in there no if and or buts bout it

i could probably win on test only but it just makes it more interesting having nother compound in there to be honest

the only compounds i repsond to besides test are... deca, tren, dbol, var and drol, so one of those has to be the second compound

hell i could probably just run test and fill out on abombs with log 5-7 days out from the show, if i did so how much wieght would that add like 5 pounds?

therefore i should weigh not more than 175 before the load

righ now i'm sitting @ 169 but not stage ready

i barely train my back as i am really focused on arms and they are BIGGER AND THICKER 8)

round april i'll reacess the situation and spot gain where needed, which will probably be upper lats

my delts ARE OUTSTANDING and arms are closing in on outstanding status as well

Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 16, 2024, 04:52:04 PM
so ACE deoesn't lower GABA? i sure as fuck hope that's so

test has to be in there no if and or buts bout it

i could probably win on test only but it just makes it more interesting having nother compound in there to be honest

the only compounds i repsond to besides test are... deca, tren, dbol, var and drol, so one of those has to be the second compound

hell i could probably just run test and fill out on abombs with log 5-7 days out from the show, if i did so how much wieght would that add like 5 pounds?

therefore i should weigh not more than 175 before the load

righ now i'm sitting @ 169 but not stage ready

i barely train my back as i am really focused on arms and they are BIGGER AND THICKER 8)

round april i'll reacess the situation and spot gain where needed, which will probably be upper lats

my delts ARE OUTSTANDING and arms are closing in on outstanding status as well

There is zero chance that you will grow too much lean tissue so you can't go into your class. Everything possible to gain as much muscle now should be done. And when you start the diet, whatever you yourself think your finishing weight will be when peeled will likely be at least 20lbs less. No one gets too hard, almost everyone is just a little too smooth, especially first timers.

Whatever you do, you will positively NOT gain too much muscle, and you need every gram of muscle you can squeeze out of whatever you are doing.

Last week, things may not play out the way you expect. Someone could be worried they will gain too much loading but often the result is not gain, probably more like at least another 5lbs lost. Especially if you do diuretics. Stress adds to this.

This is just my opinion and guesses, no need to take offense if you feel you "know" different. Maybe you do. I'll give you major props if you ever go on stage. But to do that time is running put for committing to a show. You should register for a specific show on a specific date with the promise of not backing out unless dead. An "open to change plans" approach will most likely not have you actually compete.

You need a date, you need a plan not open to major changes. I think, you would benefit from some leg work even if you competed in the shorts division. You need to add as much muscle as possible between now and prep, constant anabolic state, without going over a
set bodyfat limit.
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 16, 2024, 05:38:15 PM
There is zero chance that you will grow too much lean tissue so you can't go into your class. Everything possible to gain as much muscle now should be done. And when you start the diet, whatever you yourself think your finishing weight will be when peeled will likely be at least 20lbs less. No one gets too hard, almost everyone is just a little too smooth, especially first timers.

Whatever you do, you will positively NOT gain too much muscle, and you need every gram of muscle you can squeeze out of whatever you are doing.

Last week, things may not play out the way you expect. Someone could be worried they will gain too much loading but often the result is not gain, probably more like at least another 5lbs lost. Especially if you do diuretics. Stress adds to this.

This is just my opinion and guesses, no need to take offense if you feel you "know" different. Maybe you do. I'll give you major props if you ever go on stage. But to do that time is running put for committing to a show. You should register for a specific show on a specific date with the promise of not backing out unless dead. An "open to change plans" approach will most likely not have you actually compete.

You need a date, you need a plan not open to major changes. I think, you would benefit from some leg work even if you competed in the shorts division. You need to add as much muscle as possible between now and prep, constant anabolic state, without going over a
set bodyfat limit.

good point about picking a date and doing it

i am incredibly competitive so this will help my insane drive even more so :D :D :D

i'm thinking sometiime in aug/sept

i've been playing with the slin this week and it seems post workout is the ideal time to deploy it, i'm doing it one post workout not both as i am doing doubles doing it daily even though justin harris says limit it to twice a week max

i'm hitting 80-100 grams pro both postworkouts

and agreed bout keeping the bodyfat in check, i won't go over 8% EVER

leg is still on the mend doc says 3-4 more weeks of no training so that is what it is, but why add mass on my legs? this WILL NOT help my case as it's all bout DELTS, LATS, PECS, AND ARMS

i should consult a MP expert and ask him where i need to add the most muscle i'm fucking driven to thinken my arms right now but maybe i should focus on lat width ???

i used dbol this summer and kept a tight and tiny wasit so that's good shit to know, var and tren also allow the wasit to stay tiny but not sure bout deca/npp maybe i should just x it out completely

drol also thinkens and widens my wasit if i remember correctly so...

and slin also can thicken and widen it but i can depoly it for awhile for it's anabolic effects and then drop it the fuck out 8-12 weeks post contest

harris says you can keep the waist tight on slin/log twice a week max
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: visualizeperfection on January 16, 2024, 06:27:16 PM
good point about picking a date and doing it

i am incredibly competitive so this will help my insane drive even more so :D :D :D

i'm thinking sometiime in aug/sept

i've been playing with the slin this week and it seems post workout is the ideal time to deploy it, i'm doing it one post workout not both as i am doing doubles doing it daily even though justin harris says limit it to twice a week max

i'm hitting 80-100 grams pro both postworkouts

and agreed bout keeping the bodyfat in check, i won't go over 8% EVER

leg is still on the mend doc says 3-4 more weeks of no training so that is what it is, but why add mass on my legs? this WILL NOT help my case as it's all bout DELTS, LATS, PECS, AND ARMS

i should consult a MP expert and ask him where i need to add the most muscle i'm fucking driven to thinken my arms right now but maybe i should focus on lat width ???

i used dbol this summer and kept a tight and tiny wasit so that's good shit to know, var and tren also allow the wasit to stay tiny but not sure bout deca/npp maybe i should just x it out completely

drol also thinkens and widens my wasit if i remember correctly so...

and slin also can thicken and widen it but i can depoly it for awhile for it's anabolic effects and then drop it the fuck out 8-12 weeks post contest

harris says you can keep the waist tight on slin/log twice a week max

What would you look like natural? Serious question
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: illuminati on January 16, 2024, 06:48:22 PM
What would you look like natural? Serious question

Google is your friend
Type in MALE SKELETON  👍🏻
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 16, 2024, 06:54:29 PM
What would you look like natural? Serious question

Flat as hell

Not natty but clean for 4 months and was running 250.sust only when I came off

And get this I'm a buck 60 here in this pic second pic buck 52-53 which rather goes to show that "weight* is fucking irrelevant

I need to focus on the goddamn fucking mirror not the goddamn fucking scale
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: bigbychoices on January 17, 2024, 08:13:02 AM
       I am glad I am not the only one who has stuff to say here. For the amount and types of drugs he is taking he doesn't look any better than below average. BUT he thinks he does. So that is what is important to him. But he has to understand the guys on here are doing what a judge would do.  Now almost anyone can win a tiny local show. Very few competitors. Sometimes only 1 person in a class. I have know guys who never trained but had a swimmers build about like dj here and went to a show and won because no one else was there!! Doesn't mean you looked great.
               Yes a mirror is best but you have to actually see the truth not what you want to see.  If your choosing a show in august or Sept then you should take this time to BUILD some muscle. eat some food train right and take the right drugs. Then about 3 or 4 months before contest time start dieting and slowly reduce bodyfat . Workouts and food change too. Go easy on the "cardio" it kills muscle. Period!  Right now you are playing with your health by taking drugs and not doing it correctly. They are not vitamins .
               I understand where you are coming from but please take our advice on this. We are NOT trying to upset you but point you in the right direction. It is not difficult but you seem to be listening to all the wrong people. You can get bigger without to much stomach increase but you will never get bigger and stay below 10 percent or so. The body needs food to grow.  And using insulin right now without eating enough is just plain crazy. In fact using insulin and all the other drugs you are using to look like you do and MAYBE enter a local MP is just insane. But this is what I se in the gyms everyday. People just starting out wanting to use steroids. SMH. Get what you can naturally when that ends then and only then use steriods. They work but not like people think. They don't make up for bad genetics. 
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 17, 2024, 08:24:15 AM
good point about picking a date and doing it

i am incredibly competitive so this will help my insane drive even more so :D :D :D

i'm thinking sometiime in aug/sept

i've been playing with the slin this week and it seems post workout is the ideal time to deploy it, i'm doing it one post workout not both as i am doing doubles doing it daily even though justin harris says limit it to twice a week max

i'm hitting 80-100 grams pro both postworkouts

and agreed bout keeping the bodyfat in check, i won't go over 8% EVER

leg is still on the mend doc says 3-4 more weeks of no training so that is what it is, but why add mass on my legs? this WILL NOT help my case as it's all bout DELTS, LATS, PECS, AND ARMS

i should consult a MP expert and ask him where i need to add the most muscle i'm fucking driven to thinken my arms right now but maybe i should focus on lat width ???

i used dbol this summer and kept a tight and tiny wasit so that's good shit to know, var and tren also allow the wasit to stay tiny but not sure bout deca/npp maybe i should just x it out completely

drol also thinkens and widens my wasit if i remember correctly so...

and slin also can thicken and widen it but i can depoly it for awhile for it's anabolic effects and then drop it the fuck out 8-12 weeks post contest

harris says you can keep the waist tight on slin/log twice a week max

I think controlling the mania should be priority #1 for you so you can get a sober look at your situation. You know no one here thinks you will ever compete, I'm giving you a slight benefit of the doubt. Asking an "expert" for his opinion now would be perfect but it takes some balls, there's a risk he will pour cold water down your neck, so to speak.
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: beakdoctor on January 17, 2024, 08:45:44 AM
DJ, what does your training look like? I ask because you said you're not training legs currently? Only upper body? What kind of split do you follow?

Also, is MP the division with the board shorts?

Just curious following some of your posts.
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: BEEFCAKE on January 17, 2024, 08:47:02 AM
       I am glad I am not the only one who has stuff to say here. For the amount and types of drugs he is taking he doesn't look any better than below average. BUT he thinks he does. So that is what is important to him. But he has to understand the guys on here are doing what a judge would do.

 Now almost anyone can win a tiny local show. Very few competitors. Sometimes only 1 person in a class. I have know guys who never trained but had a swimmers build about like dj here and went to a show and won because no one else was there!! Doesn't mean you looked great.
             
  Yes a mirror is best but you have to actually see the truth not what you want to see.  If your choosing a show in august or Sept then you should take this time to BUILD some muscle. eat some food train right and take the right drugs. Then about 3 or 4 months before contest time start dieting and slowly reduce bodyfat . Workouts and food change too. Go easy on the "cardio" it kills muscle. Period!  Right now you are playing with your health by taking drugs and not doing it correctly. They are not vitamins .
           

   I understand where you are coming from but please take our advice on this. We are NOT trying to upset you but point you in the right direction. It is not difficult but you seem to be listening to all the wrong people. You can get bigger without to much stomach increase but you will never get bigger and stay below 10 percent or so. The body needs food to grow.  And using insulin right now without eating enough is just plain crazy. In fact using insulin and all the other drugs you are using to look like you do and MAYBE enter a local MP is just insane. But this is what I se in the gyms everyday. People just starting out wanting to use steroids. SMH. Get what you can naturally when that ends then and only then use steriods. They work but not like people think. They don't make up for bad genetics.

is that so hard phaggot ?
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 17, 2024, 11:04:51 AM
       I am glad I am not the only one who has stuff to say here. For the amount and types of drugs he is taking he doesn't look any better than below average. BUT he thinks he does. So that is what is important to him. But he has to understand the guys on here are doing what a judge would do.  Now almost anyone can win a tiny local show. Very few competitors. Sometimes only 1 person in a class. I have know guys who never trained but had a swimmers build about like dj here and went to a show and won because no one else was there!! Doesn't mean you looked great.
               Yes a mirror is best but you have to actually see the truth not what you want to see.  If your choosing a show in august or Sept then you should take this time to BUILD some muscle. eat some food train right and take the right drugs. Then about 3 or 4 months before contest time start dieting and slowly reduce bodyfat . Workouts and food change too. Go easy on the "cardio" it kills muscle. Period!  Right now you are playing with your health by taking drugs and not doing it correctly. They are not vitamins .
               I understand where you are coming from but please take our advice on this. We are NOT trying to upset you but point you in the right direction. It is not difficult but you seem to be listening to all the wrong people. You can get bigger without to much stomach increase but you will never get bigger and stay below 10 percent or so. The body needs food to grow.  And using insulin right now without eating enough is just plain crazy. In fact using insulin and all the other drugs you are using to look like you do and MAYBE enter a local MP is just insane. But this is what I se in the gyms everyday. People just starting out wanting to use steroids. SMH. Get what you can naturally when that ends then and only then use steriods. They work but not like people think. They don't make up for bad genetics.

i'm not a bb nor do i want to be

my gig is men's physique and that weight cutoff is bout 180 pour moi but i don't need to weigh that much to place in shows it's all about... ILLUSION ;)
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 17, 2024, 11:06:06 AM
What would you look like natural? Serious question

here ya go my mom found this and sent it by whatsapp

full natty here baby!
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 17, 2024, 11:15:50 AM
I think controlling the mania should be priority #1 for you so you can get a sober look at your situation. You know no one here thinks you will ever compete, I'm giving you a slight benefit of the doubt. Asking an "expert" for his opinion now would be perfect but it takes some balls, there's a risk he will pour cold water down your neck, so to speak.

here's a sample of the guys i'd be competing against

yeah man i guess they do mop the fucking floor with me
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 17, 2024, 11:18:07 AM
DJ, what does your training look like? I ask because you said you're not training legs currently? Only upper body? What kind of split do you follow?

Also, is MP the division with the board shorts?

Just curious following some of your posts.

now i train double every fucking day

day 1: tris at morn pecs at night

day 2: bis at morn lats at night

i hit delts every 3 days

can't train legs had surgey on the left one and have to wait 4-6 more weeks
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: IroNat on January 17, 2024, 11:32:53 AM
here ya go my mom found this and sent it by whatsapp

full natty here baby!

Not bad, dj.

Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: bigbychoices on January 17, 2024, 11:56:47 AM
                   Again your "full natty" and your current pic there is not much difference at all. Very little actually. Just like we said. A swimmer or marathon runner a biker or a high school track athlete. Dude No one here is trying to insult you or take away your dreams etc. BUT you need to be realistic. Yes you don't want to be a bodybuilder. We know that. But taking the drugs you are to look like you do to maybe compete against other swimmers is really crazy. And by the way  showing a picture of those guys do not mean those are the guys you will be competing against. I have friends who are like you ( no legs) but great upper bodies.( have you ever seen any wheelchair champions? amazing upper bodies)  So depending on where you live you could go against some well built guys
                       Nothing wrong with being proud of yourself and what you want to do. But please be realistic and don't get caught up in this. Your going to spend 125 bucks for a npc card another 100 to 150 for entry then the other fees and stuff. And Ithink you said you live off your Mom? Get out of her basement get a job  support yourself then do what you can at MP. Your never going to be a pro or make a living off this so do it as a hobby when you can. The drugs and insulin and everything else will age you quick and may take your life or leave you all fucked up. Is it worth it when it is obvious you either have fake gear or your a non responder.
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 17, 2024, 12:04:54 PM
Not bad, dj.

thanks bro

actually had wheels back then ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 17, 2024, 12:08:02 PM
                   Again your "full natty" and your current pic there is not much difference at all. Very little actually. Just like we said. A swimmer or marathon runner a biker or a high school track athlete. Dude No one here is trying to insult you or take away your dreams etc. BUT you need to be realistic. Yes you don't want to be a bodybuilder. We know that. But taking the drugs you are to look like you do to maybe compete against other swimmers is really crazy. And by the way  showing a picture of those guys do not mean those are the guys you will be competing against. I have friends who are like you ( no legs) but great upper bodies.( have you ever seen any wheelchair champions? amazing upper bodies)  So depending on where you live you could go against some well built guys
                       Nothing wrong with being proud of yourself and what you want to do. But please be realistic and don't get caught up in this. Your going to spend 125 bucks for a npc card another 100 to 150 for entry then the other fees and stuff. And Ithink you said you live off your Mom? Get out of her basement get a job  support yourself then do what you can at MP. Your never going to be a pro or make a living off this so do it as a hobby when you can. The drugs and insulin and everything else will age you quick and may take your life or leave you all fucked up. Is it worth it when it is obvious you either have fake gear or your a non responder.

so you think these guys would mop the floor with me ???

this is who i'd compete against

not much diff btw a 14.25 inch arm and a 15.75 inch arm LOL

and don't even go to the delts chief

yeah man 250 sust and 140 ACE is boat-fucking-loads of gear sure thing cupcake
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: BEEFCAKE on January 17, 2024, 12:25:20 PM
here ya go my mom found this and sent it by whatsapp

full natty here baby!

you looked better before all the bug catching partys
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 17, 2024, 06:40:29 PM
Not bad, dj.

at that time the sexy blonde babe that worked the front desk told me my body was hotter than Dr. Blakely's needless to say doc blakely wouldn't have any of that :D
Title: Re: outstanding vid bout the gears
Post by: dj181 on January 17, 2024, 06:48:46 PM
mom also forwarded a pic of me bout 6 months before that shot was taken and i'm a bloated fat turd with a 40+ inch waist

ain't posting dat pic though :D :D :D

will be heading to the gym to nail bis got dis tune BLASTING in my ears in preperation

YYYYYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHH HHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!