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I put this on the steroid board, no luck
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feedback please...
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A Hematocrit of 57 is pretty bad, I was at 55 at one point when I was on Test and my doctor was acting hysterically, as if I could drop dead any minute lol
That means your blood is super thick, resulting in a highly elevated risk of heart attack and stroke.
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A Hematocrit of 57 is pretty bad, I was at 55 when I was on Test and my doctor was acting hysterically, as if I could drop dead any minute lol
That means your blood is super thick, resulting in a highly elevated risk of heart attack and stroke.
yes, I always have a high count, I give blood , that helps bring it down
I should get some regular blood lets as well.
Its always like that test or not
This test was 2 weeks after my last show after 15 months of dieting and cycling up and down
I was advised to take supps by the blood guy to help with the high scores
500mg citrus bergamot and 2g krill oil daily and 5000 vit d for the cholesterol
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yes, I always have a high count, I give blood , that helps bring it down
I should get some regular blood lets as well.
I think that's pretty controversial. My doctor said when you donate blood your body is trying to overcompensate for the loss by producing even more red blood cells, so you could end up with an even higher count than before.
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For lipids, get some real Red Yeast Rice with Monacolin-K (natural form of Lovastatin).
Everything else in weak/bunk...
For liver, some NAC / TUDCA.
Hematocrit, maybe a couple baby aspirin a day.
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The first thing that jumped out to me was the ALT 2x normal, if GGT is normal then I think it's most likely muscle mass and breakdown products. I think that would go with the CK and Creatinine being up a bit.
You might consider one 81 mg aspirin daily for the high hemoglobin.
The CRP is so nonspecific that I can't say much about it that's useful. Maybe check another one with the next labs and see how it trends over time.
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A blood test now would probably look better than right after a competition season.
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I think that's pretty controversial. My doctor said when you donate blood your body is trying to overcompensate for the loss by producing even more red blood cells, so you could end up with an even higher count than before.
there is a condition (Polycythemia) that causes high RBC count, the treatment is blood letting
It thins the blood and reduces the build up of Red Cells
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I put this on the steroid board, no luck
(https://i.ibb.co/BZcxSzp/Screenshot-2024-02-04-at-00-57-11.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/VjyNNVg/Screenshot-2024-02-04-at-00-57-23.png)
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feedback please...
I mean, I'm just an accountant, but if you want some feedback, I'll give you some. That said, without knowing anything else about you (age, height, weight, conditions that you suffer from and medications that you could be taking), it is difficult to have concrete answers, but here's my best shot at it:
Regarding the elevated Red Blood Cell Count + Haemoglobin + Haematocrit + Mean Cell Volume - there could be numerous causes behind the elevation of these 4 distinct values. That said, the low hanging fruit that must be reached for is the fact that since you use anabolic steroids, the use of these synthetic hormones can lead your body to produce new red blood cells (a process that is called erythropoiesis) and this new production of various red blood cells can then be causing secondary polycythemia which is what would then show elevations to your RBCs, HCT, Hgb and MCV.
That said, there could be other factors at play that can separately or in conjunction cause these 4 values (RBC, HCT, Hgb, MCV) to become elevated and those other possible factors can include: Dehydration, obstructive sleep apnea (snoring at night), obesity, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). Also, some studies have shown that the use of antidepressants (SSRIs) can also lead to an increase in RBCs, HCT and Hgb (not so much the MCV).
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Regarding the elevated CRP levels - there could once more be many factors that contribute to this. First, make sure to understand that CRP is a nonspecific marker of inflammation throughout your body, in other words, a lot of shit can increase your CRP levels (even little shit like an eye infection). That said, with regards to your case, please remember that a lot of medical literature has suggested that CRP levels increase after strenuous exercise. You're a bodybuilder and a damn good one at that. I wouldn't be surprised if that is certainly contributing to the elevation in your CRP. Moreover, there are other factors that can do it as well. Like I said earlier, an infection (usually a severe one) can substantially elevate CRP levels. Chronic stress can increase CRP levels. Smoking can increase CRP levels. High cholesterol levels (which you have) can increase CRP levels.
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Let's talk about kidney function. You have 2 values that are at odds. You have high Creatine levels and slightly low eGFR. Just a guess here, but when it comes to this kind of presentation, when you have elevated creatinine levels, it can make your eGFR number appear lower than it might really be. The fact that your eGFR appears slightly lower than the normal range leads me to believe that your lifestyle (as a bodybuilder) is contributing to it, as eating large amounts of meats, taking bodybuilding supplements and chronic intense workouts can ALL lead to this exact presentation.
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Regarding your liver function, particularly that isolated and elevated ALT, this can mean many things. An isolated and elevated ALT can be caused by: the use of STATIN (cholesterol lowering) drugs, using anti-inflammatory medications (aspirin, ibuprofen etc.), having a fatty liver, alcohol use and even intense exercise can do it. There is a lot more than can do it, but realize you likely have a multitude of contributing factors that are leading to that isolated elevation in your ALT.
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Your cholesterol levels are marginally elevated, a slight modification (cleaning up of your diet will improve that, but if you're already on STATIN drugs, they are in fact working, just not perfectly). I won't comment on the Total Cholesterol + HDL + LDL + Triglycerides, as I think it's pretty evident that your levels are marginally elevated above normal and not something to go crazy about.
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Regarding your hormone values - the elevated Oestradiol level is most likely being caused by your use of steroids. Testosterone is converted to oestradiol through the aromatase enzyme and then it gets converted to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) through the 5α-reductase enzymes. No mystery here brother. Also, the lower LH and FSH values is likely related to the testosterone use, as testosterone use causes a lowering of plasma levels of both LH and FSH.
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Regarding the thyroid function and the isolated low Free T4 level, you have to look at the TSH level to get clues as to whether or not there might be some pathology at play. When you have a normal TSH level but low T4 levels, this combination typically suggests some form of secondary hypothyroidism and sometimes even Hashimoto's can present this way.
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Anyhow, that's all I have to offer. Remember, I am not a rheumatologist and so nothing I share with you should be taken as medical advice. I am merely an accountant that enjoys reading medical literature while sitting on the toilet.
All the best,
"1"
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Swifty,
Your triglycerides are too high and your HDL is too low.
Likely you are also insulin resistant.
Stop eating these foods:
Juices
Fruit (not often)
Flour products
Grains (rice, wheat, cereals, etc.)
Sugars
Low fat foods (like "low fat" anything)
Trans fats (hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated foods)
Seed oils (canola, vegetable, soy, rapeseed, etc.)
Eat these foods:
Meat, eggs, fish
Non-starch vegetables (green like broccoli)
Berries (but sparingly)
Cheese (but not processed cheese), cream
Nuts, seeds
Butter, animal lard (like bacon grease), healthy oils (olive)
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Swifty,
Your triglycerides are too high and your HDL is too low.
Likely you are also insulin resistant.
Stop eating these foods:
Juices
Fruit (not often)
Flour products
Grains (rice, wheat, cereals, etc.)
Sugars
Low fat foods (like "low fat" anything)
Trans fats (hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated foods)
Seed oils (canola, vegetable, soy, rapeseed, etc.)
Eat these foods:
Meat, eggs, fish
Non-starch vegetables (green like broccoli)
Berries (but sparingly)
Cheese (but not processed cheese), cream
Nuts, seeds
Butter, animal lard (like bacon grease), healthy oils (olive)
My diet for the 15 months up to my last show on the 4th November last year was
Rice , ribeye, cream of rice, 5% lean mince steak and eggs
Prior to that I was on a carnivore diet, I was eating around 100 gms carbs a day
I dont eat veg because of the oxalates.
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My diet for the 15 months up to my last show on the 4th November last year was
Rice , ribeye, cream of rice, 5% lean mince steak and eggs
Prior to that I was on a carnivore diet, I was eating around 100 gms carbs a day
I dont eat veg because of the oxalates.
Alas, 100 grams is too much.
50 grams or below would be best. Have a cheat day once a week to keep sane if necessary.
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I mean, I'm just an accountant, but if you want some feedback, I'll give you some. That said, without knowing anything else about you (age, height, weight, conditions that you suffer from and medications that you could be taking), it is difficult to have concrete answers, but here's my best shot at it:
Regarding the elevated Red Blood Cell Count + Haemoglobin + Haematocrit + Mean Cell Volume - there could be numerous causes behind the elevation of these 4 distinct values. That said, the low hanging fruit that must be reached for is the fact that since you use anabolic steroids, the use of these synthetic hormones can lead your body to produce new red blood cells (a process that is called erythropoiesis) and this new production of various red blood cells can then be causing secondary polycythemia which is what would then show elevations to your RBCs, HCT, Hgb and MCV.
That said, there could be other factors at play that can separately or in conjunction cause these 4 values (RBC, HCT, Hgb, MCV) to become elevated and those other possible factors can include: Dehydration, obstructive sleep apnea (snoring at night), obesity, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). Also, some studies have shown that the use of antidepressants (SSRIs) can also lead to an increase in RBCs, HCT and Hgb (not so much the MCV).
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Regarding the elevated CRP levels - there could once more be many factors that contribute to this. First, make sure to understand that CRP is a nonspecific marker of inflammation throughout your body, in other words, a lot of shit can increase your CRP levels (even little shit like an eye infection). That said, with regards to your case, please remember that a lot of medical literature has suggested that CRP levels increase after strenuous exercise. You're a bodybuilder and a damn good one at that. I wouldn't be surprised if that is certainly contributing to the elevation in your CRP. Moreover, there are other factors that can do it as well. Like I said earlier, an infection (usually a severe one) can substantially elevate CRP levels. Chronic stress can increase CRP levels. Smoking can increase CRP levels. High cholesterol levels (which you have) can increase CRP levels.
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Let's talk about kidney function. You have 2 values that are at odds. You have high Creatine levels and slightly low eGFR. Just a guess here, but when it comes to this kind of presentation, when you have elevated creatinine levels, it can make your eGFR number appear lower than it might really be. The fact that your eGFR appears slightly lower than the normal range leads me to believe that your lifestyle (as a bodybuilder) is contributing to it, as eating large amounts of meats, taking bodybuilding supplements and chronic intense workouts can ALL lead to this exact presentation.
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Regarding your liver function, particularly that isolated and elevated ALT, this can mean many things. An isolated and elevated ALT can be caused by: the use of STATIN (cholesterol lowering) drugs, using anti-inflammatory medications (aspirin, ibuprofen etc.), having a fatty liver, alcohol use and even intense exercise can do it. There is a lot more than can do it, but realize you likely have a multitude of contributing factors that are leading to that isolated elevation in your ALT.
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Your cholesterol levels are marginally elevated, a slight modification (cleaning up of your diet will improve that, but if you're already on STATIN drugs, they are in fact working, just not perfectly). I won't comment on the Total Cholesterol + HDL + LDL + Triglycerides, as I think it's pretty evident that your levels are marginally elevated above normal and not something to go crazy about.
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Regarding your hormone values - the elevated Oestradiol level is most likely being caused by your use of steroids. Testosterone is converted to oestradiol through the aromatase enzyme and then it gets converted to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) through the 5α-reductase enzymes. No mystery here brother. Also, the lower LH and FSH values is likely related to the testosterone use, as testosterone use causes a lowering of plasma levels of both LH and FSH.
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Regarding the thyroid function and the isolated low Free T4 level, you have to look at the TSH level to get clues as to whether or not there might be some pathology at play. When you have a normal TSH level but low T4 levels, this combination typically suggests some form of secondary hypothyroidism and sometimes even Hashimoto's can present this way.
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Anyhow, that's all I have to offer. Remember, I am not a rheumatologist and so nothing I share with you should be taken as medical advice. I am merely an accountant that enjoys reading medical literature while sitting on the toilet.
All the best,
"1"
thats much appreciated
Thank You
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thats much appreciated
Thank You
Any time brother.
"1"
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I mean, I'm just an accountant, but if you want some feedback, I'll give you some. That said, without knowing anything else about you (age, height, weight, conditions that you suffer from and medications that you could be taking), it is difficult to have concrete answers, but here's my best shot at it:
Regarding the elevated Red Blood Cell Count + Haemoglobin + Haematocrit + Mean Cell Volume - there could be numerous causes behind the elevation of these 4 distinct values. That said, the low hanging fruit that must be reached for is the fact that since you use anabolic steroids, the use of these synthetic hormones can lead your body to produce new red blood cells (a process that is called erythropoiesis) and this new production of various red blood cells can then be causing secondary polycythemia which is what would then show elevations to your RBCs, HCT, Hgb and MCV.
That said, there could be other factors at play that can separately or in conjunction cause these 4 values (RBC, HCT, Hgb, MCV) to become elevated and those other possible factors can include: Dehydration, obstructive sleep apnea (snoring at night), obesity, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). Also, some studies have shown that the use of antidepressants (SSRIs) can also lead to an increase in RBCs, HCT and Hgb (not so much the MCV).
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Regarding the elevated CRP levels - there could once more be many factors that contribute to this. First, make sure to understand that CRP is a nonspecific marker of inflammation throughout your body, in other words, a lot of shit can increase your CRP levels (even little shit like an eye infection). That said, with regards to your case, please remember that a lot of medical literature has suggested that CRP levels increase after strenuous exercise. You're a bodybuilder and a damn good one at that. I wouldn't be surprised if that is certainly contributing to the elevation in your CRP. Moreover, there are other factors that can do it as well. Like I said earlier, an infection (usually a severe one) can substantially elevate CRP levels. Chronic stress can increase CRP levels. Smoking can increase CRP levels. High cholesterol levels (which you have) can increase CRP levels.
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Let's talk about kidney function. You have 2 values that are at odds. You have high Creatine levels and slightly low eGFR. Just a guess here, but when it comes to this kind of presentation, when you have elevated creatinine levels, it can make your eGFR number appear lower than it might really be. The fact that your eGFR appears slightly lower than the normal range leads me to believe that your lifestyle (as a bodybuilder) is contributing to it, as eating large amounts of meats, taking bodybuilding supplements and chronic intense workouts can ALL lead to this exact presentation.
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Regarding your liver function, particularly that isolated and elevated ALT, this can mean many things. An isolated and elevated ALT can be caused by: the use of STATIN (cholesterol lowering) drugs, using anti-inflammatory medications (aspirin, ibuprofen etc.), having a fatty liver, alcohol use and even intense exercise can do it. There is a lot more than can do it, but realize you likely have a multitude of contributing factors that are leading to that isolated elevation in your ALT.
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Your cholesterol levels are marginally elevated, a slight modification (cleaning up of your diet will improve that, but if you're already on STATIN drugs, they are in fact working, just not perfectly). I won't comment on the Total Cholesterol + HDL + LDL + Triglycerides, as I think it's pretty evident that your levels are marginally elevated above normal and not something to go crazy about.
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Regarding your hormone values - the elevated Oestradiol level is most likely being caused by your use of steroids. Testosterone is converted to oestradiol through the aromatase enzyme and then it gets converted to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) through the 5α-reductase enzymes. No mystery here brother. Also, the lower LH and FSH values is likely related to the testosterone use, as testosterone use causes a lowering of plasma levels of both LH and FSH.
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Regarding the thyroid function and the isolated low Free T4 level, you have to look at the TSH level to get clues as to whether or not there might be some pathology at play. When you have a normal TSH level but low T4 levels, this combination typically suggests some form of secondary hypothyroidism and sometimes even Hashimoto's can present this way.
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Anyhow, that's all I have to offer. Remember, I am not a rheumatologist and so nothing I share with you should be taken as medical advice. I am merely an accountant that enjoys reading medical literature while sitting on the toilet.
All the best,
"1"
OMR is a walking dicktionary of knowledge that releases all over the pages of getbig from time to time.
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OMR is a walking dicktionary of knowledge that releases all over the pages of getbig from time to time.
I see what you did there sir.
That said, if I can be of service to our members in any capacity, I am always happy to help.
These guys and girls on here are also incredibly smart. Joswift has a ton of knowledge regarding all sorts of stuff. If I ever wanted to get in great shape and truly serious about bodybuilding again, guys like him are definitely my go to.
If the apocalypse and fall of society hits, I'm coming over to your place Chaos.
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Alas, 100 grams is too much.
I have been eating carbs again this last few weeks, I am back to carnivore next week
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I see what you did there sir.
That said, if I can be of service to our members in any capacity, I am always happy to help.
These guys and girls on here are also incredibly smart. Joswift has a ton of knowledge regarding all sorts of stuff. If I ever wanted to get in great shape and truly serious about bodybuilding again, guys like him are definitely my go to.
If the apocalypse and fall of society hits, I'm coming over to your place Chaos.
"1"
You're welcome to come hang out anytime stud!
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You have 22 total flags.
Thick blood is causing several of them. Typical side effect increases chance of heart attack and you have it. I do not.
You also have flags indicating reduced kidney and liver function and general inflammation typical side effects and you have them. I do not.
Your cholesterol is high again typical side effect increases chance of heart attack and you have it. I do not.
Your estrogen is high again typical side effect and you have it. I have this as well.
LH and FH gone again typical, and you have it. I have this as well.
Your PSA is not 0 mine is much closer to 0
So yeah based on this my bloodwork or last bloodwork would be better. I will have new results this week. The main concern with yours would be that elevated liver and kidney numbers but that can be from exercise not sure if you took a week off weightlifting prior you probably didn't but that could explain the ALT. I would take time off training before your next labs. You elevated blood and lipid levels are really not that elevated. 2 weeks post show also probably isn't your mean values. No mention of Blood Pressure or IGF-1 HGH levels I would check those as well.
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All this stuff is going wayyy over my head, but I just want to say that if you are on steroids, you should consider coming off permanently. Health beats the fleeting glory or chemical muscle every time.
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This is on Amazon should at least help your liver with the Nac and TUDCA
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there is a condition (Polycythemia) that causes high RBC count, the treatment is blood letting
It thins the blood and reduces the build up of Red Cells
I have Polycythemia. I acquired it after doing many cycles of test and tren. My 1st episode was my blood was thick like ketchup and it stroked out my colon. I went to shit and a bunch of blood came out. I have had to be admitted 6x for blood letting. It is a bitch! After you are released you have to continue to go 3x a week for blood letting until you finally get your count down and stable. I can feel when my red cell count gets high. I have not had an episode for about 5 yrs. I haven’t been on a cycle for about 12 yrs. Be careful and keep an eye on it.
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You have 22 total flags.
Thick blood is causing several of them. Typical side effect increases chance of heart attack and you have it. I do not.
You also have flags indicating reduced kidney and liver function and general inflammation typical side effects and you have them. I do not.
Your cholesterol is high again typical side effect increases chance of heart attack and you have it. I do not.
Your estrogen is high again typical side effect and you have it. I have this as well.
LH and FH gone again typical, and you have it. I have this as well.
Your PSA is not 0 mine is much closer to 0
So yeah based on this my bloodwork or last bloodwork would be better. I will have new results this week. The main concern with yours would be that elevated liver and kidney numbers but that can be from exercise not sure if you took a week off weightlifting prior you probably didn't but that could explain the ALT. I would take time off training before your next labs. You elevated blood and lipid levels are really not that elevated. 2 weeks post show also probably isn't your mean values. No mention of Blood Pressure or IGF-1 HGH levels I would check those as well.
I should have added the caveat that I dont give a flying fuck what you think, especially about your bloodwork.
Its not about you you crippled fag.
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All this stuff is going wayyy over my head, but I just want to say that if you are on steroids, you should consider coming off permanently. Health beats the fleeting glory or chemical muscle every time.
Then why is your username not "Mr Natural Vagina"?
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Then why is your username not "Mr Natural Vagina"?
good question, I don't have all the answers
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You have 22 total flags.
Thick blood is causing several of them. Typical side effect increases chance of heart attack and you have it. I do not.
You also have flags indicating reduced kidney and liver function and general inflammation typical side effects and you have them. I do not.
Your cholesterol is high again typical side effect increases chance of heart attack and you have it. I do not.
Your estrogen is high again typical side effect and you have it. I have this as well.
LH and FH gone again typical, and you have it. I have this as well.
Your PSA is not 0 mine is much closer to 0
So yeah based on this my bloodwork or last bloodwork would be better. I will have new results this week. The main concern with yours would be that elevated liver and kidney numbers but that can be from exercise not sure if you took a week off weightlifting prior you probably didn't but that could explain the ALT. I would take time off training before your next labs. You elevated blood and lipid levels are really not that elevated. 2 weeks post show also probably isn't your mean values. No mention of Blood Pressure or IGF-1 HGH levels I would check those as well.
i love how this dead beat dad assumes its a competition or some sort of challenge.
This is the same person using 500 mgs of test as TRT trying to give advice on bloodwork.
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good question, I don't have all the answers
I am just saying your name is a combination of two mega roid beasts. It is not congruent with your statement. Some need TRT to be healthy.
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I should have added the caveat that I dont give a flying fuck what you think, especially about your bloodwork.
Its not about you you crippled fag.
According to your blood work you are the one at a greater risk of having a heart attack and being a cripple not me asshole. Thick blood and high cholesterol bet you have high blood pressure as well just buy yourself the post heart attack Walker now. At least your liver and kidney are functioning oh wait
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I am just saying your name is a combination of two mega roid beasts. It is not congruent with your statement. Some need TRT to be healthy.
I guess you are right about that.
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According to your blood work you are the one at a greater risk of having a heart attack and being a cripple not me asshole
what was the fake story about you using canes? I can't recall
yet, no pictures of you ever with a cane..hmmm odd..
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I think that's pretty controversial. My doctor said when you donate blood your body is trying to overcompensate for the loss by producing even more red blood cells, so you could end up with an even higher count than before.
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10 mins in
"There is no need for healthy people to let blood"
Stupid twat, isnt the fact that you have high heamocrit an indicator that you are not healthy?
No one ever suggested blood letting for healthy people.
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10 mins in
"There is no need for healthy people to let blood"
Stupid twat, isnt the fact that you have high heamocrit an indicator that you are not healthy?
No one ever suggested blood letting for healthy people.
It could be a temporary condition that will pass with an adjustment of your hormone routine so you may not necessarily be deemed “unhealthy” in the sense that you have a chronic condition, but if you think him a “stupid twat” with nothing useful to add, so be it.
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According to your blood work you are the one at a greater risk of having a heart attack and being a cripple not me asshole. Thick blood and high cholesterol bet you have high blood pressure as well just buy yourself the post heart attack Walker now. At least your liver and kidney are functioning oh wait
I will out live you ...
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I have Polycythemia. I acquired it after doing many cycles of test and tren. My 1st episode was my blood was thick like ketchup and it stroked out my colon. I went to shit and a bunch of blood came out. I have had to be admitted 6x for blood letting. It is a bitch! After you are released you have to continue to go 3x a week for blood letting until you finally get your count down and stable. I can feel when my red cell count gets high. I have not had an episode for about 5 yrs. I haven’t been on a cycle for about 12 yrs. Be careful and keep an eye on it.
Wow - glad you've recovered from this. May I ask how you feel the red cell rise? What sort of sensation is it?
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Wow - glad you've recovered from this. May I ask how you feel the red cell rise? What sort of sensation is it?
It is the same feeling when my blood pressure used to get high. A dull headache and just walking around seems like a chore. It’s weird because I just feel off and definitely not myself. Sorry I can’t explain it better than that. But I learned quickly to associate that feeling to polycythemia. I immediately go get my blood work done and every time I feel that way.
According to my hematologist you have it for life. You can also get high red blood cell count and polycythemia from sleep apnea. I shed some lbs which greatly reduced my sleep apnea. That’s why I haven’t had a full blown episode of polycythemia since losing that weight.
I hope no one gets it here because the blood letting procedures is a bitch! The needle is the size of a garden hose so they can draw out the thick ass blood.
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It is the same feeling when my blood pressure used to get high. A dull headache and just walking around seems like a chore. It’s weird because I just feel off and definitely not myself. Sorry I can’t explain it better than that. But I learned quickly to associate that feeling to polycythemia. I immediately go get my blood work done and every time I feel that way.
According to my hematologist you have it for life. You can also get high red blood cell count and polycythemia from sleep apnea. I shed some lbs which greatly reduced my sleep apnea. That’s why I haven’t had a full blown episode of polycythemia since losing that weight.
I hope no one gets it here because the blood letting procedures is a bitch! The needle is the size of a garden hose so they can draw out the thick ass blood.
Height and weight?
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It is the same feeling when my blood pressure used to get high. A dull headache and just walking around seems like a chore. It’s weird because I just feel off and definitely not myself. Sorry I can’t explain it better than that. But I learned quickly to associate that feeling to polycythemia. I immediately go get my blood work done and every time I feel that way.
According to my hematologist you have it for life. You can also get high red blood cell count and polycythemia from sleep apnea. I shed some lbs which greatly reduced my sleep apnea. That’s why I haven’t had a full blown episode of polycythemia since losing that weight.
I hope no one gets it here because the blood letting procedures is a bitch! The needle is the size of a garden hose so they can draw out the thick ass blood.
That sounds terrible.........all the best my friend.
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I have similar results with my TRT, I control my adverse blood reactions though taking blood out every three months. This usually drops me back into range, 3 months later then im slightly over again, but it works well for me and my TRT at 100mgs per week.
This effect with such a low dose is a pain, but I have always been a hyper responder and I guess if your going to grow of small dosages you going to have a similar result blood wise at a similar dose, could be worse could take 500mgs a week and look natural.
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It is the same feeling when my blood pressure used to get high. A dull headache and just walking around seems like a chore. It’s weird because I just feel off and definitely not myself. Sorry I can’t explain it better than that. But I learned quickly to associate that feeling to polycythemia. I immediately go get my blood work done and every time I feel that way.
According to my hematologist you have it for life. You can also get high red blood cell count and polycythemia from sleep apnea. I shed some lbs which greatly reduced my sleep apnea. That’s why I haven’t had a full blown episode of polycythemia since losing that weight.
I hope no one gets it here because the blood letting procedures is a bitch! The needle is the size of a garden hose so they can draw out the thick ass blood.
100% sleep apnoea contributes to high red blood counts, I have had that happen to my blood before TRT, then again I have haemochromatosis in my family line.
The needle is a bitch I hate getting it done. But Ive been doing it for over ten years and no doubt it helps mie enormously.
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It is the same feeling when my blood pressure used to get high. A dull headache and just walking around seems like a chore. It’s weird because I just feel off and definitely not myself. Sorry I can’t explain it better than that. But I learned quickly to associate that feeling to polycythemia. I immediately go get my blood work done and every time I feel that way.
According to my hematologist you have it for life. You can also get high red blood cell count and polycythemia from sleep apnea. I shed some lbs which greatly reduced my sleep apnea. That’s why I haven’t had a full blown episode of polycythemia since losing that weight.
I hope no one gets it here because the blood letting procedures is a bitch! The needle is the size of a garden hose so they can draw out the thick ass blood.
Thanks for responding. All this talk about health has made me think I'm going to get my blood done this week too. Not because of AAS, haven't touched the stuff in 25+ years, just feels like it's time again. Who knows - I might even bite the bullet and finally get the finger up the ass too... (and a PSA test ;D)
Best of health to you 8)
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Watch your ferritin boys!
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I don't see anything in his blood work that can't be controlled with a change in diet, the odd water fast, ect.The blood is too thick like motor oil. You want it more like water. Blood sugar a little high, some insulin resistance, and a bit of fat in the blood. Blood has higher poison level than desired, tougher on the filters. All of this can be reversed within 3 months with dietary changes. Better to come down in weight and stay hydrated. If this was taken after contest season his levels are probably better already.
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I put this on the steroid board, no luck
feedback please...
Lipids are not bad at all.
Hematocrit and hemoglobin should be lowered.
I'm not an expert on kidneys but you should have some doctor take a look definitely.
You should drop any orals if the ALT keeps going up from there,as a matter of fact I would drop it in any case. There is no cholestasis,simple toxicity for now.
Lots of your test is converting to estrogen. Don't worry about the T4.
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I will out live you ...
That's not saying much.
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The only thing concerning to me would be gfr. The rest isn’t that bad. My cholesterol and triglycerides have been way worse. My alt was in the hundreds for Lifting alone.
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Lipids are not bad at all.
Hematocrit and hemoglobin should be lowered.
I'm not an expert on kidneys but you should have some doctor take a look definitely.
You should drop any orals if the ALT keeps going up from there,as a matter of fact I would drop it in any case. There is no cholestasis,simple toxicity for now.
Lots of your test is converting to estrogen. Don't worry about the T4.
I have been having lithotripsy on my kidneys for stones which does cause trauma to the kidney (passing blood), maybe thats why its off a bit
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I have been having lithotripsy on my kidneys for stones which does cause trauma to the kidney (passing blood), maybe thats why its off a bit
That makes sense.
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My diet for the 15 months up to my last show on the 4th November last year was
Rice , ribeye, cream of rice, 5% lean mince steak and eggs
Prior to that I was on a carnivore diet, I was eating around 100 gms carbs a day
I dont eat veg because of the oxalates.
Huh? No fruit and veg at all?
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Huh? No fruit and veg at all?
It’s the nutrition version of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face
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Huh? No fruit and veg at all?
No, they have nothing of benefit to me
I will occasionally eat mushrooms but there is an argument they are actually meat
Veg have little nutritional value and just add bulk to a diet, I dont eat a lot so what I eat has to have value.
Fibre is no good for the digestive system, fats make you shit not fibre
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100% sleep apnoea contributes to high red blood counts, I have had that happen to my blood before TRT, then again I have haemochromatosis in my family line.
The needle is a bitch I hate getting it done. But Ive been doing it for over ten years and no doubt it helps mie enormously.
Sleep apnea is most often caused by excessive bodyweight.
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Sleep apnea is most often caused by excessive bodyweight.
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Going for the health look
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I mean, I'm just an accountant, but if you want some feedback, I'll give you some. That said, without knowing anything else about you (age, height, weight, conditions that you suffer from and medications that you could be taking), it is difficult to have concrete answers, but here's my best shot at it:
Regarding the elevated Red Blood Cell Count + Haemoglobin + Haematocrit + Mean Cell Volume - there could be numerous causes behind the elevation of these 4 distinct values. That said, the low hanging fruit that must be reached for is the fact that since you use anabolic steroids, the use of these synthetic hormones can lead your body to produce new red blood cells (a process that is called erythropoiesis) and this new production of various red blood cells can then be causing secondary polycythemia which is what would then show elevations to your RBCs, HCT, Hgb and MCV.
That said, there could be other factors at play that can separately or in conjunction cause these 4 values (RBC, HCT, Hgb, MCV) to become elevated and those other possible factors can include: Dehydration, obstructive sleep apnea (snoring at night), obesity, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). Also, some studies have shown that the use of antidepressants (SSRIs) can also lead to an increase in RBCs, HCT and Hgb (not so much the MCV).
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Regarding the elevated CRP levels - there could once more be many factors that contribute to this. First, make sure to understand that CRP is a nonspecific marker of inflammation throughout your body, in other words, a lot of shit can increase your CRP levels (even little shit like an eye infection). That said, with regards to your case, please remember that a lot of medical literature has suggested that CRP levels increase after strenuous exercise. You're a bodybuilder and a damn good one at that. I wouldn't be surprised if that is certainly contributing to the elevation in your CRP. Moreover, there are other factors that can do it as well. Like I said earlier, an infection (usually a severe one) can substantially elevate CRP levels. Chronic stress can increase CRP levels. Smoking can increase CRP levels. High cholesterol levels (which you have) can increase CRP levels.
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Let's talk about kidney function. You have 2 values that are at odds. You have high Creatine levels and slightly low eGFR. Just a guess here, but when it comes to this kind of presentation, when you have elevated creatinine levels, it can make your eGFR number appear lower than it might really be. The fact that your eGFR appears slightly lower than the normal range leads me to believe that your lifestyle (as a bodybuilder) is contributing to it, as eating large amounts of meats, taking bodybuilding supplements and chronic intense workouts can ALL lead to this exact presentation.
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Regarding your liver function, particularly that isolated and elevated ALT, this can mean many things. An isolated and elevated ALT can be caused by: the use of STATIN (cholesterol lowering) drugs, using anti-inflammatory medications (aspirin, ibuprofen etc.), having a fatty liver, alcohol use and even intense exercise can do it. There is a lot more than can do it, but realize you likely have a multitude of contributing factors that are leading to that isolated elevation in your ALT.
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Your cholesterol levels are marginally elevated, a slight modification (cleaning up of your diet will improve that, but if you're already on STATIN drugs, they are in fact working, just not perfectly). I won't comment on the Total Cholesterol + HDL + LDL + Triglycerides, as I think it's pretty evident that your levels are marginally elevated above normal and not something to go crazy about.
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Regarding your hormone values - the elevated Oestradiol level is most likely being caused by your use of steroids. Testosterone is converted to oestradiol through the aromatase enzyme and then it gets converted to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) through the 5α-reductase enzymes. No mystery here brother. Also, the lower LH and FSH values is likely related to the testosterone use, as testosterone use causes a lowering of plasma levels of both LH and FSH.
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Regarding the thyroid function and the isolated low Free T4 level, you have to look at the TSH level to get clues as to whether or not there might be some pathology at play. When you have a normal TSH level but low T4 levels, this combination typically suggests some form of secondary hypothyroidism and sometimes even Hashimoto's can present this way.
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Anyhow, that's all I have to offer. Remember, I am not a rheumatologist and so nothing I share with you should be taken as medical advice. I am merely an accountant that enjoys reading medical literature while sitting on the toilet.
All the best,
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What a helpful guy!
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Sleep apnea is most often caused by excessive bodyweight.
yep
seems like 235 is the tipping point according to many jootube fellas
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yep
seems like 235 is the tipping point according to many jootube fellas
You are treading a fine line dear boy...
I dont want to tell you what to do..but....
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You are treading a fine line dear boy...
I dont want to tell you what to do..but....
what do you mean?
it's freedom of speech here
i don't give a flying fuck if someone mocks anglo-saxons germans or french and yes those are my bloodlines
i just dont care and i'm not a sensitive triggered pussy from it
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what do you mean?
it's freedom of speech here
i don't give a flying fuck if someone mocks anglo-saxons germans or french and yes those are my bloodlines
i just dont care and i'm not a sensitive triggered pussy from it
Carry on then, I for one am fucking sick of your ramblings.
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saying 235 is start of apena is a rambling ??? ??? ???
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saying 235 is start of apena is a rambling ??? ??? ???
Fuck off DJ, you are getting worse than Hankins
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what do you mean?
it's freedom of speech here
i don't give a flying fuck if someone mocks anglo-saxons germans or french and yes those are my bloodlines
i just dont care and i'm not a sensitive triggered pussy from it
You are very naive :o
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yep
seems like 235 is the tipping point according to many jootube fellas
Its more about BMI, not actual weight. If a 5-foot guy weighs 200 lbs with a 35-BMI, sleep apnea can be an issue.
I know many leaner, 6-foot blokes who weigh 250 and apnea isnt even a thing for them.
Many J00Tube fellers talk out their ass and parrot bullshit...
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That's not saying much.
yeah
woopty-doo
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Its more about BMI, not actual weight. If a 5-foot guy weighs 200 lbs with a 35-BMI, sleep apnea can be an issue.
I know many leaner, 6-foot blokes who weigh 250 and apnea isnt even a thing for them.
Many J00Tube fellers talk out their ass and parrot bullshit...
good point
joo sa gyms were rempant with drawfs ie. 5'7 or under
here not so much