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[joswift]

I put this on the steroid board, no luck

feedback please...

[affeman]

A Hematocrit of 57 is pretty bad, I was at 55 at one point when I was on Test and my doctor was acting hysterically, as if I could drop dead any minute lol

That means your blood is super thick, resulting in a highly elevated risk of heart attack and stroke.

[joswift]

A Hematocrit of 57 is pretty bad, I was at 55 when I was on Test and my doctor was acting hysterically, as if I could drop dead any minute lol

That means your blood is super thick, resulting in a highly elevated risk of heart attack and stroke.

yes, I always have a high count, I give blood , that helps bring it down
I should get some regular blood lets as well.
Its always like that test or not
This test was 2 weeks after my last show after 15 months of dieting and cycling up and down

I was advised to take supps by the blood guy to help with the high scores
500mg citrus bergamot and 2g krill oil daily and 5000 vit d for the cholesterol

[affeman]

yes, I always have a high count, I give blood , that helps bring it down
I should get some regular blood lets as well.

I think that's pretty controversial. My doctor said when you donate blood your body is trying to overcompensate for the loss by producing even more red blood cells, so you could end up with an even higher count than before.

[Gym Rat]

For lipids, get some real Red Yeast Rice with Monacolin-K (natural form of Lovastatin).
Everything else in weak/bunk...

For liver, some NAC / TUDCA.

Hematocrit, maybe a couple baby aspirin a day.

[GymnJuice]

The first thing that jumped out to me was the ALT 2x normal, if GGT is normal then I think it's most likely muscle mass and breakdown products. I think that would go with the CK and Creatinine being up a bit.

You might consider one 81 mg aspirin daily for the high hemoglobin.

The CRP is so nonspecific that I can't say much about it that's useful. Maybe check another one with the next labs and see how it trends over time.

[BigRo]

A blood test now would probably look better than right after a competition season.

[joswift]

I think that's pretty controversial. My doctor said when you donate blood your body is trying to overcompensate for the loss by producing even more red blood cells, so you could end up with an even higher count than before.

there is a condition (Polycythemia) that causes high RBC count, the treatment is blood letting

It thins the blood and reduces the build up of Red Cells

[OneMoreRep]

I put this on the steroid board, no luck



feedback please...

I mean, I'm just an accountant, but if you want some feedback, I'll give you some. That said, without knowing anything else about you (age, height, weight, conditions that you suffer from and medications that you could be taking), it is difficult to have concrete answers, but here's my best shot at it:

Regarding the elevated Red Blood Cell Count + Haemoglobin + Haematocrit + Mean Cell Volume - there could be numerous causes behind the elevation of these 4 distinct values. That said, the low hanging fruit that must be reached for is the fact that since you use anabolic steroids, the use of these synthetic hormones can lead your body to produce new red blood cells (a process that is called erythropoiesis) and this new production of various red blood cells can then be causing secondary polycythemia which is what would then show elevations to your RBCs, HCT, Hgb and MCV.

That said, there could be other factors at play that can separately or in conjunction cause these 4 values (RBC, HCT, Hgb, MCV) to become elevated and those other possible factors can include: Dehydration, obstructive sleep apnea (snoring at night), obesity, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). Also, some studies have shown that the use of antidepressants (SSRIs) can also lead to an increase in RBCs, HCT and Hgb (not so much the MCV).

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Regarding the elevated CRP levels - there could once more be many factors that contribute to this. First, make sure to understand that CRP is a nonspecific marker of inflammation throughout your body, in other words, a lot of shit can increase your CRP levels (even little shit like an eye infection). That said, with regards to your case, please remember that a lot of medical literature has suggested that CRP levels increase after strenuous exercise. You're a bodybuilder and a damn good one at that. I wouldn't be surprised if that is certainly contributing to the elevation in your CRP. Moreover, there are other factors that can do it as well. Like I said earlier, an infection (usually a severe one) can substantially elevate CRP levels. Chronic stress can increase CRP levels. Smoking can increase CRP levels. High cholesterol levels (which you have) can increase CRP levels.

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Let's talk about kidney function. You have 2 values that are at odds. You have high Creatine levels and slightly low eGFR. Just a guess here, but when it comes to this kind of presentation, when you have elevated creatinine levels, it can make your eGFR number appear lower than it might really be. The fact that your eGFR appears slightly lower than the normal range leads me to believe that your lifestyle (as a bodybuilder) is contributing to it, as eating large amounts of meats, taking bodybuilding supplements and chronic intense workouts can ALL lead to this exact presentation.

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Regarding your liver function, particularly that isolated and elevated ALT, this can mean many things. An isolated and elevated ALT can be caused by: the use of STATIN (cholesterol lowering) drugs, using anti-inflammatory medications (aspirin, ibuprofen etc.), having a fatty liver, alcohol use and even intense exercise can do it. There is a lot more than can do it, but realize you likely have a multitude of contributing factors that are leading to that isolated elevation in your ALT.

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Your cholesterol levels are marginally elevated, a slight modification (cleaning up of your diet will improve that, but if you're already on STATIN drugs, they are in fact working, just not perfectly). I won't comment on the Total Cholesterol + HDL + LDL + Triglycerides, as I think it's pretty evident that your levels are marginally elevated above normal and not something to go crazy about.

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Regarding your hormone values - the elevated Oestradiol level is most likely being caused by your use of steroids. Testosterone is converted to oestradiol through the aromatase enzyme and then it gets converted to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) through the 5α-reductase enzymes. No mystery here brother. Also, the lower LH and FSH values is likely related to the testosterone use, as testosterone use causes a lowering of plasma levels of both LH and FSH.

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Regarding the thyroid function and the isolated low Free T4 level, you have to look at the TSH level to get clues as to whether or not there might be some pathology at play. When you have a normal TSH level but low T4 levels, this combination typically suggests some form of secondary hypothyroidism and sometimes even Hashimoto's can present this way.

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Anyhow, that's all I have to offer. Remember, I am not a rheumatologist and so nothing I share with you should be taken as medical advice. I am merely an accountant that enjoys reading medical literature while sitting on the toilet.

All the best,

"1"

[IroNat]

Swifty,

Your triglycerides are too high and your HDL is too low.

Likely you are also insulin resistant.

Stop eating these foods:

Juices
Fruit (not often)
Flour products
Grains (rice, wheat, cereals, etc.)
Sugars
Low fat foods (like "low fat" anything)
Trans fats (hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated foods)
Seed oils (canola, vegetable, soy, rapeseed, etc.)

Eat these foods:

Meat, eggs, fish
Non-starch vegetables (green like broccoli)
Berries (but sparingly)
Cheese (but not processed cheese), cream
Nuts, seeds
Butter, animal lard (like bacon grease), healthy oils (olive)

[joswift]

Swifty,

Your triglycerides are too high and your HDL is too low.

Likely you are also insulin resistant.

Stop eating these foods:

Juices
Fruit (not often)
Flour products
Grains (rice, wheat, cereals, etc.)
Sugars
Low fat foods (like "low fat" anything)
Trans fats (hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated foods)
Seed oils (canola, vegetable, soy, rapeseed, etc.)

Eat these foods:

Meat, eggs, fish
Non-starch vegetables (green like broccoli)
Berries (but sparingly)
Cheese (but not processed cheese), cream
Nuts, seeds
Butter, animal lard (like bacon grease), healthy oils (olive)

My diet for the 15 months up to my last show on the 4th November last year was

Rice , ribeye, cream of rice, 5% lean mince steak and eggs

Prior to that I was on a carnivore diet, I was eating around 100 gms carbs a day

I dont eat veg because of the oxalates.

[IroNat]

My diet for the 15 months up to my last show on the 4th November last year was

Rice , ribeye, cream of rice, 5% lean mince steak and eggs

Prior to that I was on a carnivore diet, I was eating around 100 gms carbs a day

I dont eat veg because of the oxalates.

Alas, 100 grams is too much.

50 grams or below would be best.  Have a cheat day once a week to keep sane if necessary.

[joswift]

I mean, I'm just an accountant, but if you want some feedback, I'll give you some. That said, without knowing anything else about you (age, height, weight, conditions that you suffer from and medications that you could be taking), it is difficult to have concrete answers, but here's my best shot at it:

Regarding the elevated Red Blood Cell Count + Haemoglobin + Haematocrit + Mean Cell Volume - there could be numerous causes behind the elevation of these 4 distinct values. That said, the low hanging fruit that must be reached for is the fact that since you use anabolic steroids, the use of these synthetic hormones can lead your body to produce new red blood cells (a process that is called erythropoiesis) and this new production of various red blood cells can then be causing secondary polycythemia which is what would then show elevations to your RBCs, HCT, Hgb and MCV.

That said, there could be other factors at play that can separately or in conjunction cause these 4 values (RBC, HCT, Hgb, MCV) to become elevated and those other possible factors can include: Dehydration, obstructive sleep apnea (snoring at night), obesity, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). Also, some studies have shown that the use of antidepressants (SSRIs) can also lead to an increase in RBCs, HCT and Hgb (not so much the MCV).

-------------------------

Regarding the elevated CRP levels - there could once more be many factors that contribute to this. First, make sure to understand that CRP is a nonspecific marker of inflammation throughout your body, in other words, a lot of shit can increase your CRP levels (even little shit like an eye infection). That said, with regards to your case, please remember that a lot of medical literature has suggested that CRP levels increase after strenuous exercise. You're a bodybuilder and a damn good one at that. I wouldn't be surprised if that is certainly contributing to the elevation in your CRP. Moreover, there are other factors that can do it as well. Like I said earlier, an infection (usually a severe one) can substantially elevate CRP levels. Chronic stress can increase CRP levels. Smoking can increase CRP levels. High cholesterol levels (which you have) can increase CRP levels.

-------------------------

Let's talk about kidney function. You have 2 values that are at odds. You have high Creatine levels and slightly low eGFR. Just a guess here, but when it comes to this kind of presentation, when you have elevated creatinine levels, it can make your eGFR number appear lower than it might really be. The fact that your eGFR appears slightly lower than the normal range leads me to believe that your lifestyle (as a bodybuilder) is contributing to it, as eating large amounts of meats, taking bodybuilding supplements and chronic intense workouts can ALL lead to this exact presentation.

-------------------------

Regarding your liver function, particularly that isolated and elevated ALT, this can mean many things. An isolated and elevated ALT can be caused by: the use of STATIN (cholesterol lowering) drugs, using anti-inflammatory medications (aspirin, ibuprofen etc.), having a fatty liver, alcohol use and even intense exercise can do it. There is a lot more than can do it, but realize you likely have a multitude of contributing factors that are leading to that isolated elevation in your ALT.

-------------------------

Your cholesterol levels are marginally elevated, a slight modification (cleaning up of your diet will improve that, but if you're already on STATIN drugs, they are in fact working, just not perfectly). I won't comment on the Total Cholesterol + HDL + LDL + Triglycerides, as I think it's pretty evident that your levels are marginally elevated above normal and not something to go crazy about.

-------------------------

Regarding your hormone values - the elevated Oestradiol level is most likely being caused by your use of steroids. Testosterone is converted to oestradiol through the aromatase enzyme and then it gets converted to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) through the 5α-reductase enzymes. No mystery here brother. Also, the lower LH and FSH values is likely related to the testosterone use, as testosterone use causes a lowering of plasma levels of both LH and FSH.

-------------------------

Regarding the thyroid function and the isolated low Free T4 level, you have to look at the TSH level to get clues as to whether or not there might be some pathology at play. When you have a normal TSH level but low T4 levels, this combination typically suggests some form of secondary hypothyroidism and sometimes even Hashimoto's can present this way.

-------------------------

Anyhow, that's all I have to offer. Remember, I am not a rheumatologist and so nothing I share with you should be taken as medical advice. I am merely an accountant that enjoys reading medical literature while sitting on the toilet.

All the best,

"1"

thats much appreciated
Thank You

[OneMoreRep]

thats much appreciated
Thank You

Any time brother.

"1"

[chaos]

I mean, I'm just an accountant, but if you want some feedback, I'll give you some. That said, without knowing anything else about you (age, height, weight, conditions that you suffer from and medications that you could be taking), it is difficult to have concrete answers, but here's my best shot at it:

Regarding the elevated Red Blood Cell Count + Haemoglobin + Haematocrit + Mean Cell Volume - there could be numerous causes behind the elevation of these 4 distinct values. That said, the low hanging fruit that must be reached for is the fact that since you use anabolic steroids, the use of these synthetic hormones can lead your body to produce new red blood cells (a process that is called erythropoiesis) and this new production of various red blood cells can then be causing secondary polycythemia which is what would then show elevations to your RBCs, HCT, Hgb and MCV.

That said, there could be other factors at play that can separately or in conjunction cause these 4 values (RBC, HCT, Hgb, MCV) to become elevated and those other possible factors can include: Dehydration, obstructive sleep apnea (snoring at night), obesity, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). Also, some studies have shown that the use of antidepressants (SSRIs) can also lead to an increase in RBCs, HCT and Hgb (not so much the MCV).

-------------------------

Regarding the elevated CRP levels - there could once more be many factors that contribute to this. First, make sure to understand that CRP is a nonspecific marker of inflammation throughout your body, in other words, a lot of shit can increase your CRP levels (even little shit like an eye infection). That said, with regards to your case, please remember that a lot of medical literature has suggested that CRP levels increase after strenuous exercise. You're a bodybuilder and a damn good one at that. I wouldn't be surprised if that is certainly contributing to the elevation in your CRP. Moreover, there are other factors that can do it as well. Like I said earlier, an infection (usually a severe one) can substantially elevate CRP levels. Chronic stress can increase CRP levels. Smoking can increase CRP levels. High cholesterol levels (which you have) can increase CRP levels.

-------------------------

Let's talk about kidney function. You have 2 values that are at odds. You have high Creatine levels and slightly low eGFR. Just a guess here, but when it comes to this kind of presentation, when you have elevated creatinine levels, it can make your eGFR number appear lower than it might really be. The fact that your eGFR appears slightly lower than the normal range leads me to believe that your lifestyle (as a bodybuilder) is contributing to it, as eating large amounts of meats, taking bodybuilding supplements and chronic intense workouts can ALL lead to this exact presentation.

-------------------------

Regarding your liver function, particularly that isolated and elevated ALT, this can mean many things. An isolated and elevated ALT can be caused by: the use of STATIN (cholesterol lowering) drugs, using anti-inflammatory medications (aspirin, ibuprofen etc.), having a fatty liver, alcohol use and even intense exercise can do it. There is a lot more than can do it, but realize you likely have a multitude of contributing factors that are leading to that isolated elevation in your ALT.

-------------------------

Your cholesterol levels are marginally elevated, a slight modification (cleaning up of your diet will improve that, but if you're already on STATIN drugs, they are in fact working, just not perfectly). I won't comment on the Total Cholesterol + HDL + LDL + Triglycerides, as I think it's pretty evident that your levels are marginally elevated above normal and not something to go crazy about.

-------------------------

Regarding your hormone values - the elevated Oestradiol level is most likely being caused by your use of steroids. Testosterone is converted to oestradiol through the aromatase enzyme and then it gets converted to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) through the 5α-reductase enzymes. No mystery here brother. Also, the lower LH and FSH values is likely related to the testosterone use, as testosterone use causes a lowering of plasma levels of both LH and FSH.

-------------------------

Regarding the thyroid function and the isolated low Free T4 level, you have to look at the TSH level to get clues as to whether or not there might be some pathology at play. When you have a normal TSH level but low T4 levels, this combination typically suggests some form of secondary hypothyroidism and sometimes even Hashimoto's can present this way.

-------------------------

Anyhow, that's all I have to offer. Remember, I am not a rheumatologist and so nothing I share with you should be taken as medical advice. I am merely an accountant that enjoys reading medical literature while sitting on the toilet.

All the best,

"1"

OMR is a walking dicktionary of knowledge that releases all over the pages of getbig from time to time.

[IroNat]

[OneMoreRep]

OMR is a walking dicktionary of knowledge that releases all over the pages of getbig from time to time.

I see what you did there sir.

That said, if I can be of service to our members in any capacity, I am always happy to help.

These guys and girls on here are also incredibly smart. Joswift has a ton of knowledge regarding all sorts of stuff. If I ever wanted to get in great shape and truly serious about bodybuilding again, guys like him are definitely my go to.

If the apocalypse and fall of society hits, I'm coming over to your place Chaos.

"1"

[joswift]

Alas, 100 grams is too much.

I have been eating carbs again this last few weeks, I am back to carnivore next week

[chaos]

I see what you did there sir.

That said, if I can be of service to our members in any capacity, I am always happy to help.

These guys and girls on here are also incredibly smart. Joswift has a ton of knowledge regarding all sorts of stuff. If I ever wanted to get in great shape and truly serious about bodybuilding again, guys like him are definitely my go to.

If the apocalypse and fall of society hits, I'm coming over to your place Chaos.

"1"

You're welcome to come hang out anytime stud!

[bhank]

You have 22 total flags.

Thick blood is causing several of them. Typical side effect increases chance of heart attack and you have it. I do not.
You also have flags indicating reduced kidney and liver function and general inflammation typical side effects and you have them. I do not.
Your cholesterol is high again typical side effect increases chance of heart attack and you have it. I do not.
Your estrogen is high again typical side effect and you have it. I have this as well.
LH and FH gone again typical, and you have it. I have this as well.
Your PSA is not 0 mine is much closer to 0

So yeah based on this my bloodwork or last bloodwork would be better. I will have new results this week. The main concern with yours would be that elevated liver and kidney numbers but that can be from exercise not sure if you took a week off weightlifting prior you probably didn't but that could explain the ALT. I would take time off training before your next labs. You elevated blood and lipid levels are really not that elevated. 2 weeks post show also probably isn't your mean values. No mention of Blood Pressure or IGF-1 HGH levels I would check those as well.

[Dorian Cutler]

All this stuff is going wayyy over my head, but I just want to say that if you are on steroids, you should consider coming off permanently. Health beats the fleeting glory or chemical muscle every time.

[POB]

This is on Amazon should at least help your liver with the Nac and TUDCA

[gym**rat]

there is a condition (Polycythemia) that causes high RBC count, the treatment is blood letting

It thins the blood and reduces the build up of Red Cells

I have Polycythemia. I acquired it after doing many cycles of test and tren. My 1st episode was my blood was thick like ketchup and it stroked out my colon. I went to shit and a bunch of blood came out. I have had to be admitted 6x for blood letting. It is a bitch! After you are released you have to continue to go 3x a week for blood letting until you finally get your count down and stable. I can feel when my red cell count gets high. I have not had an episode for about 5 yrs. I haven’t been on a cycle for about 12 yrs. Be careful and keep an eye on it.

[joswift]

You have 22 total flags.

Thick blood is causing several of them. Typical side effect increases chance of heart attack and you have it. I do not.
You also have flags indicating reduced kidney and liver function and general inflammation typical side effects and you have them. I do not.
Your cholesterol is high again typical side effect increases chance of heart attack and you have it. I do not.
Your estrogen is high again typical side effect and you have it. I have this as well.
LH and FH gone again typical, and you have it. I have this as well.
Your PSA is not 0 mine is much closer to 0

So yeah based on this my bloodwork or last bloodwork would be better. I will have new results this week. The main concern with yours would be that elevated liver and kidney numbers but that can be from exercise not sure if you took a week off weightlifting prior you probably didn't but that could explain the ALT. I would take time off training before your next labs. You elevated blood and lipid levels are really not that elevated. 2 weeks post show also probably isn't your mean values. No mention of Blood Pressure or IGF-1 HGH levels I would check those as well.

I should have added the caveat that I dont give a flying fuck what you think, especially about your bloodwork.
Its not about you you crippled fag.

[BigRo]

All this stuff is going wayyy over my head, but I just want to say that if you are on steroids, you should consider coming off permanently. Health beats the fleeting glory or chemical muscle every time.

Then why is your username not "Mr Natural Vagina"?