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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: jaejonna on May 02, 2006, 10:27:20 AM
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When it comes to being a champion in BB, to be the man you have to beat the man or wait for him to retire..
Lee Haney beat the most Mr. Os as a champion
Samir Bannout
Chris Dickerson
Sergio Olivia
Dorian Yates
Ronnie Coleman
**(Larry Scott, Arnold, Franco all retired and he competed against Zane in 83 but did not win the contest, however he did pl ace high than him)
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Side Note Bout Arnie
Arnold beat..
Segio
Franco*
Zane*
Dickerson*
Bannout*
**Not Mr. O till he retired** (opposite for Haney, they were all previous Mr. O)
Arnold beat 9 time Mr. O
Sergio 2
Franco 2
Zane 3
Dickerson, Bannout 2
Haney beat 19 times Mr. O
Sergio 2
Dorian 6
Ronnie 9
Dickerson, Bannout 2
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Haney Interview
"Pattern my physique after Arnold, Robbie You Kow who, Rory Challender and Danny Padilla..."
"Balance, Symetry..."
Dorian : "New Norm..., not hte norm that I opitimized, but as I said before Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.."
"Mass when it goes a bit beyond, and looses the balance and symetry, it epitimizes the .....(didn tsay but implied the Bad Side of things)
"265 -270, is a hard dream for a youngster... stunted the growth (of BB)"
One Name that he would of loved to compete against...
"Ronnie would of pushed me alot"
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He's humble. Unlike most getbigers, knows Robinson as one of the true greats and uncrowned Olympians. Rob would've humbled Haney and equally flawed Yates (both were all-torsos with gaping balance issues elsewhere). Rob's only real issues were smooth thighs and so-so calves; not big overall issues.
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Probably the best human being to ever win the crown...
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Haney beat 19 times Mr. O
Sergio 2
Dorian 6
Ronnie 9
Dickerson, Bannout 2
Huh? Haney never competed even once against Ronnie Coleman. They were basically in different eras. Coleman's first Olympia was in 92 (16th place), the year after Haney retired.
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I think i'll go with Haney i dont like these kinda questions they are to limiting in almost all of the afformentioned Mr Os reigns there has been another BB i prefered so Haney is in noway the best ever in my opinion
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Huh? Haney never competed even once against Ronnie Coleman. They were basically in different eras. Coleman's first Olympia was in 92 (16th place), the year after Haney retired.
Opps I stand corrected... he did , your right
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Haney in 1984 beat THREE former Mr Olympia winners in one night !!
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Arnold > Haney
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Ronnie beat a whole bunch of "should be Mr. Olympias" :D
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haney did seem like an intelligent guy. robby robinson was definitely hugely underrated as well.
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Definitely Chris Dickerson
Oops- I thought it said "Gayest Mr.O"
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Ronnie Coleman
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There's no "probably" about it. Bodybuilding and it's industry would be in a much better place if it's participants tried to emulate this man.
For sure. Arnold may be the highest profile Mr. O but if you counted all the lives that have been personally changed for the better by a Mr. O then it would be Haney by a landslide.
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Arnold had the best ego though ;D He talked the best trash and was the best at getting into peoples heads. He knew he was the best and let everyone know it 8)
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He's totaleee aweseome! One of the few BBs I actually respect! He wasn't just a champion; he acted like one.
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Haney was ruler of all. While I was a teenager he was definitely a role model for me, which kept me out of plenty of trouble no doubt.
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There's no "probably" about it. Bodybuilding and it's industry would be in a much better place if it's participants tried to emulate this man.
True that Sean
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That my friends is why Haney rules in my book. Class with mass. Incredibly humble, and never arrogant. I give this to Dorian; he seems like a really good guy. Never came off as a cocky shit. Ronnie also appears to be a good guy. Jeez, when you are his size you don't have to be a prick to people. I find it interesting that the guys who have won the last 22 Mr. Olympia's are amongst the most decent guys in the sport. Usually, the superstars are the assholes. It is true in tennis, golf, football or basketball. They believe the hype. I give credit to our last three champions for this rare quality. Arnold was a prick, but I love the guy. Smart son of a bitch.
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Arnold was the greatest EVER, he made bodybuilding what it is, made it (somewhat) mainstream, he's inspired so many people to work out, most of my competitive bodybuilder friends cite Arnold as the reason they started training in the first place. How many people has Haney inspired to work out? not dissing him, but come on.. let's be realistic.
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Arnold was in denial as he himself said. I would say pretty insecure. It takes a real asshole to humilitate somebody with a disability and an emotionally overbearing father. Yeah, that's confidence alright. ::)
Notice how Arnold didn't pull that shit with Franco? I'm sure he would avoid that with people whose IQs are in the double digits. :-\
Sounds like Arnold got to you, too ;D
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Arnold had the best ego though He talked the best trash and was the best at getting into peoples heads. He knew he was the best and let everyone know it
A lot of that's according to Arnold, who's always enjoyed shaping the perceptions of those who don't know any better. Easy for him to make those claims after the fact, knowing ahead of time who was going to win each time.
He wasn't quite as confident on neutral ground when Sergio called him out and he wouldn't answer the challenge. Conveniently, Arnold never tells this part of the story.. ;D
Mentzer didn't buy it either.
most of my competitive bodybuilder friends cite Arnold as the reason they started training in the first place. How many people has Haney inspired to work out? not dissing him, but come on.. let's be realistic.
That was also timing; not that he'd of had the same impact but I'm sure Haney would've come across well had he had the chance to be in Pumping Iron. It's no coincidence IMO that most of the major characters in PI save Arnold and Waller are basically idiots who can barely talk.
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A lot of that's according to Arnold, not necessarily true. Easy to say after the fact, when you knew ahead of time who was gonna win the show.
He wasn't quite as confident on neutral ground when Sergio called him out and he wouldn't answer the challenge. Conveniently, Arnold never tells this part of the story.. ;D
Mentzer didn't buy it either.
I remember the face picture of Mentzer and Arnold arguing at the 1980 Mr. Olympia. Arnold looks arrogant even while arguing ;D
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Priceless shot; Mentez wasn't having any of it.
Small cameo of Mentzer sipping at drink at Gold's at the beginning of PI when Arnold comes in; completely ignored by Arnold in the scene and overlooked in the movie. They only interviewed stiffs as Arnold's competition-not a word from Nubret, Robinson, Oliva, Draper...
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Priceless shot; Mentez wasn't having any of it.
Small cameo of Mentzer sipping at drink at Gold's at the beginning of PI when Arnold comes in; completely overlooked in the movie. They only intreviewed stiffs as Arnold's competition-not a word from Nubret, Robinson, Oliva, Draper...
It's a shame more those Ironage greats weren't interviewed. Were they in the special features?
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They went to Draper's to interview him but he was unavailable; already into drug/alcohol probs. Unfortunate since he deserved to be in it.
As far as the others, the absence of some of the others is inexplicable. Possibly a desire to stage the movie in a way that made it more interesting or consistent with Weider publications' version. For accuracy's sake they should have been in there since it was claiming to be a documentary.
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Infamous 1980
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Infamous 1980
I wish I had a transcript of that argument ;D
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I wish I had a transcript of that argument ;D
There was a great aticle in Flex magazine where Mike gives his version of events from that contest , very interesting read .
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There was a great aticle in Flex magazine where Mike gives his version of events from that contest , very interesting read .
Mike made it sound like Arnold was Supporting Getbig, but he seems calm in the picture.
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Mike made it sound like Arnold was Supporting Getbig, but he seems calm in the picture.
Hahhahah "Supporting Getbig"
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"Smells uf pee pee, Mikhail. Pleese close your mowth!"
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Hahhahah "Supporting Getbig"
Yeah, I've fallen in love with this Support Getbig thing. ;D
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Yeah, I've fallen in love with this Support Getbig thing. ;D
Bet you can't spell that m e l t d o w n
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Bet you can't spell that m e l t d o w n
I can't spell it the old way, but I think it's a good thing. It was becoming too much of a crutch.
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Each mr olympia has a stake in bbing history for their era,scott brought a new thickness and huge arm's and a exercise named for it scott curl,oliva had immense proportions and could have gone forever some thought,until arnold who brought european mass to new level's and started bbing in new broarder masses and has to this day certain signature poses that he mastered,columbu just due to weight classes at time didn't get his rightful due.zane who was a statue come to life brought a new level of ripped muscularity never seen and too win at such a lighter bodyweight than most peers.dickerson and bannout were very good but it was time too ring on the big boy's and people had enough of the 190 pounders for good.haney started what was considered the most competitive era with bbers from all over the wordl vying for the title while bringing a massive package of thick muscle.yate's just increased the formula 10 fold and pretty much for most of his win's demolished his competitor's and his era had some of the best bber's to be seen yet,now we sit with king ron proving that as the oldest mro yet what training ,diet,supplementing natural and unnatural that the sky's the limit.all in all they were all great and have contributed to the progression of bbing's great prize.
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So, how much longer you guys think the Mr O will exist? I doubt it will be around 10-15 years from now. Pro bb as we use to know it is dying off for sure.
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Haney is nothing without drugs (like any others...) :
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Haney is nothing without drugs (like any others...) :
at least Ronnie still has the muscle definition
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Haney is nothing without drugs (like any others...) :
In his defense he was offseason & guestposing !!
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Haney is nothing without drugs (like any others...) :
I think he looks pretty good there.