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Title: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on August 18, 2024, 12:47:08 AM
Funny because methzer built his body with high volume and not hit.

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Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: joswift on August 18, 2024, 12:50:48 AM
you never mentioned this before.....
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on August 18, 2024, 12:52:13 AM
you never mentioned this before.....

Worth mentioning again.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 18, 2024, 12:52:59 AM
you never mentioned this before.....
:D
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on August 18, 2024, 03:04:22 AM
RMJ11/Beakdoctor/Danimal77/Bevo’s hatred for Mentzer & HIT has reached critical mass
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on August 18, 2024, 05:07:27 AM
RMJ11/Beakdoctor/Danimal77/Bevo’s hatred for Mentzer & HIT has reached critical mass

Hatred for it because it simply does not work.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 18, 2024, 06:08:50 AM
A bunch of mental cases on this platform. If you get results from one set to failure then do it. If you prefer multiple sets then do it. Stop trying to convince everyone that you are right. It isn't working. The fact that you are trying to convince everyone shows your insecurity in your own training. What do you care if someone warms up with non taxing sets then does one set to failure?  If you want to do six sets of an exercise doing something like 6 x 10 then do it and don't care about the other guy in the gym doing one set to failure.

You are a broken record of never ending similar posts.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: WrongAdvices on August 18, 2024, 06:31:30 AM
I've got GetBig figured out. You can play this whole Fock, Paper, Scissors game with the threads. 

Hankins threads can be ruined with DJ posts,

DJ threads can be ruined with Mentzer, and

Mentzer threads can be ruined with Hankins.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on August 18, 2024, 06:46:35 AM
Old fart is here again with his HIT nonsense.

"A bunch of mental cases on this platform."

That's the hit fanatics for sure.

"If you get results from one set to failure then do it."

Which nobody does since hit does not work. It's why after 50 years it still has a very dismal success rate.

"If you prefer multiple sets then do it"

Multiple,e sets have proven to be 40% more effective for muscle growth. It's why all the best bodybuilders have done multiple sets. There has never been a hit only successful bodybuilder.  Never.

"Stop trying to convince everyone that you are right."

Based on real world results multiple sets are the way to go. Hence why I'm right.

"It isn't working."

It sure is.

"The fact that you are trying to convince everyone shows your insecurity in your own training."

Nope. You just made that up. Where did I state that?

"What do you care if someone warms up with non taxing sets then does one set to failure?"

Because its a waste of time and gets people nowhere. Fast.

"If you want to do six sets of an exercise doing something like 6 x 10 then do it and don't care about the other guy in the gym doing one set to failure."

Jealous much. You should try high volume that way you'll look better and perhaps your bitterness will disappear too.

"You are a broken record of never ending similar posts."

You sure are.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: joswift on August 18, 2024, 08:11:21 AM
I've got GetBig figured out. You can play this whole Fock, Paper, Scissors game with the threads. 

Hankins threads can be ruined with DJ posts,

DJ threads can be ruined with Mentzer, and

Mentzer threads can be ruined with Hankins.

 ;D ;D
thats pretty good
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: beakdoctor on August 18, 2024, 08:27:22 AM
Mentzer had a great build. He is a big part of the one of the best eras in bodybuilding.

I don't hate Mike Mentzer but his fans are ridiculouslyobnoxious people. And im not RMJ. I don't even like RMJ. RMJ is also ridiculously obnoxious.

But no one on this platform is as ridiculous as royalty. DJ, Hankins, ESF or any other Getbig "villains" may be more ridiculous but they are entertaining. Royalty is a ridiculous bore..... and about as smart as a 3 toed sloth.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on August 18, 2024, 09:26:48 AM
Mentzer had a ok build. He was a small part of the one of the best eras in bodybuilding.

I don't hate Mike Mentzer but his fans are ridiculouslyobnoxious people. And im not RMJ as I'm ridiculously obnoxious.

But no one on this platform is as ridiculous as royalty. DJ, Hankins, ESF or any other Getbig "villains" may be more ridiculous but they are entertaining. Royalty is a ridiculous bore..... and about as smart as a 3 toed sloth.

Fixed.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on August 18, 2024, 12:50:56 PM
Mentzer had a great build. He is a big part of the one of the best eras in bodybuilding.

I don't hate Mike Mentzer but his fans are ridiculouslyobnoxious people. And im not RMJ. I don't even like RMJ. RMJ is also ridiculously obnoxious.

But no one on this platform is as ridiculous as royalty. DJ, Hankins, ESF or any other Getbig "villains" may be more ridiculous but they are entertaining. Royalty is a ridiculous bore..... and about as smart as a 3 toed sloth.

Your charade is over Danimal77

Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: beakdoctor on August 18, 2024, 10:59:22 PM
Your charade is over Danimal77

Yet, somehow it carries on in your mind. Like a ship lost at sea.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on August 18, 2024, 11:24:54 PM
About Beakdoctor aka RMJ11


He is Danimal77. He has Borderline Personality Disorder and Bi-Polar disorder. He is a pathological liar.

He doesn’t have the ability to stop. This guy will mimic, copycat, parrot, and lie for eternity.

He seeks attention.


He has dozens of accounts. He posts all day and all night. The mods failed to do their job with this psychopathic bastard. They should’ve banned all of his accounts years ago.


Trolling him is the only way to communicate with him.


Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on August 18, 2024, 11:29:11 PM
Old fart is here again with his HIT nonsense.

"A bunch of mental cases on this platform."

That's the hit fanatics for sure.

"If you get results from one set to failure then do it."

Which nobody does since hit does not work. It's why after 50 years it still has a very dismal success rate.

"If you prefer multiple sets then do it"

Multiple,e sets have proven to be 40% more effective for muscle growth. It's why all the best bodybuilders have done multiple sets. There has never been a hit only successful bodybuilder.  Never.

"Stop trying to convince everyone that you are right."

Based on real world results multiple sets are the way to go. Hence why I'm right.

"It isn't working."

It sure is.

"The fact that you are trying to convince everyone shows your insecurity in your own training."

Nope. You just made that up. Where did I state that?

"What do you care if someone warms up with non taxing sets then does one set to failure?"

Because its a waste of time and gets people nowhere. Fast.

"If you want to do six sets of an exercise doing something like 6 x 10 then do it and don't care about the other guy in the gym doing one set to failure."

Jealous much. You should try high volume that way you'll look better and perhaps your bitterness will disappear too.

"You are a broken record of never ending similar posts."

You sure are.


^^^ an old obsession of Danimal77

Copy & Paste conversations from other forums and posting it here.

and vice versa
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: joswift on August 19, 2024, 03:00:22 AM

Trolling him is the only way to communicate with him.


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Why would you want to communicate with him?
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 19, 2024, 05:51:42 AM
"Studies show that X is 40% more effective." Only problem is these studies are pathetic from all angles.

Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on August 19, 2024, 06:32:59 AM
"Studies show that X is 40% more effective." Only problem is these studies are pathetic from all angles.

Except these studies reflect real world results. There has never been a successful hit only bodybuilder. Never.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: joswift on August 19, 2024, 08:35:50 AM
Except these studies reflect real world results. There has never been a successful hit only bodybuilder. Never.
we know, thanks...
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: beakdoctor on August 19, 2024, 08:39:35 AM
Except these studies reflect real world results. There has never been a successful hit only bodybuilder. Never.

Yeah, it works both ways. Van is saying most studies are skewed.

Stuff like:
Studies show people who eat a 1/4 cup of blueberries a day are 50% more likely to double their life span" this can be picked apart sooooo many different ways. When you actually read the study you see in a group of 20 terminally ill stroke patients , they gave 10  a 1/4 cup of blueberries. And they lived for 20 more days on average as opposed to 10 days without.

So, the studies, whether for or against, are usually bullshit either way.

Perfect example that gets quoted all the fucking time ad nauseum is the stanford prison experiment. Completely skewed for a desired outcome.  Totally worthless yet academics talk about it to this day.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: jwb on August 19, 2024, 11:12:24 AM
Back in the early 80s Chris Lund had a lot of articles published in MuscleMag International and well as several British Magazines.

He would basically be a fly on the wall and just photograph guys doing actual workouts and report what they did.

He did an article on Mentzer and here is what he reported.

Back  Cable Row 3 sets
         Under grip Pulldown 2 sets
         Deadlifts 4 sets

Triceps  Pushdowns 3 sets
            Dips 2 sets

Thighs  Leg Extensions 2 warmups
           Superset Leg Extension & Seated Leg Press  2 supersets
           Squats 4 sets
           Leg Curl 3 sets

So, low volume for the time but not that low.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: jwb on August 19, 2024, 11:14:36 AM
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Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Bevo on August 19, 2024, 11:27:59 AM
RMJ11/Beakdoctor/Danimal77/Bevo’s hatred for Mentzer & HIT has reached critical mass

Just like your hatred for Arnold
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: beakdoctor on August 19, 2024, 11:42:01 AM
The best/clearest example of HIT not working is when they tried to film it.

Boyer, Mike, Ray and someone else were in Art Jones Nautilus facility in Deland Fl.  They were all supposed to be clean. Only Boyer was truly clean. So they went through the routines. And filmed the workouts. They got through 5 or 6 workouts before scrapping the project.  None of them improved. And the Colorado experiment was supposed to be what? 6 or 7 wprkouts? OK.

It sounds good. Guys like Mike and Casey looked great. It's very appealing but it works only in theory.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: jwb on August 19, 2024, 12:18:06 PM
Chris Lund article on Casey Viator right before 1982 Olympia.

Chest

incline press 4 sets
incline flys 5 sets
crossovers 2 sets
dip machine 2 sets

Biceps

alternate curls 3 sets
incline curls 4 sets
1 arm pulley curl 4 sets

Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: snx on August 19, 2024, 07:08:22 PM
Hands down, the best synopsis of the entire topic.



I can't imagine most of you will watch the entire video. But it validates that both approaches work...with caveats.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on August 25, 2024, 01:59:24 AM
Hands down, the best synopsis of the entire topic.



I can't imagine most of you will watch the entire video. But it validates that both approaches work...with caveats.

Nope.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on August 25, 2024, 01:59:58 AM
More stupidity from little

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Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: MAXX on August 25, 2024, 01:07:08 PM
More stupidity from little

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You're stupid....

alot of scientific backing,, nowdays many studies showing heart damage from overtraining the cardiovascular system

here's one:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6179786/

Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on August 26, 2024, 12:53:12 AM
You're stupid....

alot of scientific backing,, nowdays many studies showing heart damage from overtraining the cardiovascular system

here's one:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6179786/

Nope. It's very hard for one to actually overtrain.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: pamith on August 27, 2024, 07:49:27 PM
Brutal if true
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on August 29, 2024, 02:33:06 PM
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Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on September 01, 2024, 12:29:11 AM
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Dorian proves nothing. He was a pharmaceutical walking experiment. A result of using massive amounts of growth hormone. His training had little to do with it. He never did hit.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: wes on September 01, 2024, 12:31:43 AM
Who gives a flying fuck just do whatever works for you.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 01, 2024, 07:27:16 AM
Dorian proves nothing. He was a pharmaceutical walking experiment. A result of using massive amounts of growth hormone. His training had little to do with it. He never did hit.

If Dorian didn't use HIT give me an example of what HIT training is. 
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on September 09, 2024, 02:51:38 AM
If Dorian didn't use HIT give me an example of what HIT training is.

You don't know? Course you do.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 10, 2024, 12:06:25 AM
You don't know? Course you do.
Do tell.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on September 14, 2024, 10:43:20 AM
Do tell.

Yes, old timer will tell.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 15, 2024, 01:11:36 PM
Yes, old timer will tell.

You are against high intensity training but you can't define it. What is you defect that you are so neurotic and OCD about this? 
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on September 15, 2024, 01:31:30 PM
You are against high intensity training but you can't define it. What is you defect that you are so neurotic and OCD about this?

I've defined it many times. Just you can't accept it.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: IroNat on September 15, 2024, 03:05:56 PM
I know HIT when I see it.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 16, 2024, 12:29:19 AM
I know HIT when I see it.
Or feel it.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on September 29, 2024, 01:19:18 AM
You are against high intensity training but you can't define it. What is you defect that you are so neurotic and OCD about this?

Bench presses to (concentric) positive failure, then you do assisted forced reps (need a spotter) to failure, then more negative reps (spotter needed) to complete failure then drop sets...complete, utter, paralysis!

That's HIT.

Dorian never trained like that.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 29, 2024, 08:43:57 AM
Bench presses to (concentric) positive failure, then you do assisted forced reps (need a spotter) to failure, then more negative reps (spotter needed) to complete failure then drop sets...complete, utter, paralysis!

That's HIT.

Dorian never trained like that.


That isn't HIT.  That's your definition of HIT. No one can define it.  The best illustration is low sets to failure whether or not drop sets or assisted reps are used. Go back to the father of high intensity training wrote in his Nautilus bulletin one. The most authentic HIT is one set to failure.  If someone claims they are doing two sets to failure the first set couldn't have been to failure because you wouldn't be able to do the second set with the same amount of reps.

Typical trainers like you who do four to six sets of an exercise might only hit failure on the the last set or not at all. No one can do failure for four sets getting the same amount of reps. A certain amount of pacing is used so sets are stopped with  gas remaining in the tank.  A good way to train for muscular endurance. Personally I find it hard to train that way.  It hardly feels heroic to end a set when I could have gotten 5 more reps.  If I did get those 5 more reps I would be shot and finished with that exercise.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: joswift on September 29, 2024, 08:49:06 AM

That isn't HIT.  That's your definition of HIT. No one can define it.  The best illustration is low sets to failure whether or not drop sets or assisted reps are used. Go back to the father of high intensity training wrote in his Nautilus bulletin one. The most authentic HIT is one set to failure.  If someone claims they are doing two sets to failure the first set couldn't have been to failure because you wouldn't be able to do the second set with the same amount of reps.

Typical trainers like you who do four to six sets of an exercise might only hit failure on the the last set or not at all. No one can do failure for four sets getting the same amount of reps. A certain amount of pacing is used so sets are stopped with  gas remaining in the tank.  A good way to train for muscular endurance. Personally I find it hard to train that way.  It hardly feels heroic to end a set when I could have gotten 5 more reps.  If I did get those 5 more reps I would be shot and finished with that exercise.
From doing a set to failure your muscles recover enough to do another rep in less than 5 seconds

Just look at a drop set, go to failure, drop the weight by 5 kilos and you can do another set, hell you can do it without dropping the weight

Are you saying a single set to failure is more intense than a drop set?
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 29, 2024, 08:56:56 AM
From doing a set to failure your muscles recover enough to do another rep in less than 5 seconds

Just look at a drop set, go to failure, drop the weight by 5 kilos and you can do another set, hell you can do it without dropping the weight

Are you saying a single set to failure is more intense than a drop set?

You're missing the difference between intensity and endurance.  Train how ever you want. I won't put down your methods.

 Yes you can fail at say 9 reps rest for 15 seconds  then you can  get another rep. Once you hit that failure rep addition reps are just killing your compensation adaption.

  Yes, fail at 9 reps. Rest 40 seconds and get then fail at 6 reps to failure. Rest another 40 seconds and now fail at 4 reps. That is not productive training.

  I won't respond to what every you type in response. You are not changing my mind. Train how every you want. Yes, multiple sets work. So those short intensity training.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: joswift on September 29, 2024, 10:34:44 AM
You're missing the difference between intensity and endurance.  Train how ever you want. I won't put down your methods.

 Yes you can fail at say 9 reps rest for 15 seconds  then you can  get another rep. Once you hit that failure rep addition reps are just killing your compensation adaption.

  Yes, fail at 9 reps. Rest 40 seconds and get then fail at 6 reps to failure. Rest another 40 seconds and now fail at 4 reps. That is not productive training.

  I won't respond to what every you type in response. You are not changing my mind. Train how every you want. Yes, multiple sets work. So those short intensity training.
I think Dorian did enough without pushing too far, apart from later when he got injured.

I dont think you have to go to failure to make gains, most people never really go to failure
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on September 29, 2024, 01:19:22 PM

That is HIT.  That's the very definition of HIT. The best illustration is low sets to failure with drop sets or assisted reps. Go back to the father of high intensity training wrote in his Nautilus bulletin one. The most authentic HIT is one set to failure plus beyond failure techniques. That's true failure.  If someone claims they are doing two sets to failure the first set could have been to failure because you would be able to do the second set with the same amount of reps if you rest long enough between sets or just drop the weight down by 10%.

Correct trainers like you who do four to six sets of an exercise might only hit failure on the the last set or not at all as failure is not needed for growth. But you can do failure for four sets getting the same amount of reps if you drop the weight down by 5 yo 10% each succeeding set.

A certain amount of pacing can be used also so sets are stopped with some as remaining in the tank.  A good way to train for muscular endurance and muscle gains since multiple sets have been proven to be 40% superior than single sets to failure.

Personally I find it hard to train that way as I'm lazy.

Fixed.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: illuminati on September 29, 2024, 03:33:29 PM
Dorian proves nothing. He was a pharmaceutical walking experiment. A result of using massive amounts of growth hormone. His training had little to do with it. He never did hit.

HOW DO YOU KNOW ? DID YOU TRAIN AT TEMPLE GYM ?  DID YOU KNOW DORIAN - WHAT DID HE TELL YOU ?
YOUR JUST MAKING CRAP UP BECAUSE HE FUCKED YOUR GIRL OR SOME OTHER THING YOU COULDN’T
DO SHIT ABOUT.


AND ?




Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on September 29, 2024, 11:06:29 PM
Dorian proves nothing. He was a pharmaceutical walking experiment. A result of using massive amounts of growth hormone. His training had little to do with it. He never did hit.

HOW DO YOU KNOW?

Read his actual training journals, he trained conventionally.

DID YOU TRAIN AT TEMPLE GYM?

DID YOU KNOW DORIAN - WHAT DID HE TELL YOU ?

Dorian had stated that he used conventional methods to build up. Not hit.

YOUR JUST MAKING CRAP UP BECAUSE HE FUCKED YOUR GIRL OR SOME OTHER THING YOU COULDN’T
DO SHIT ABOUT.

Not making it up at all. Plus if you didn't really give a toss then why do you even reply?



AND ? Triggered.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Donny on September 30, 2024, 04:13:58 AM
I think Dorian did enough without pushing too far, apart from later when he got injured.

I dont think you have to go to failure to make gains, most people never really go to failure

you don´t & maybe for Oldtimer1  a 1 set to "failure" is all he can do given his age & running he says he does.
He says he´s a "Hybrid" athlete so probably why he doesn´t look like a bodybuilder.
I´m willing to bet that if he just did chins & push ups he would look exactly the same.

These Heavy Duty guys are brainwashed & regurgitate the same stuff over & over again.



Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: joswift on September 30, 2024, 04:21:13 AM
you don´t & maybe for Oldtimer1  a 1 set to "failure" is all he can do given his age & running he says he does.
He says he´s a "Hybrid" athlete so probably why he doesn´t look like a bodybuilder.
I´m willing to bet that if he just did chins & push ups he would look exactly the same.

These Heavy Duty guys are brainwashed & regurgitate the same stuff over & over again.
going to failure means you wouldnt complete your last rep
How many times have you seen someone go that far so they end up stuck under the bar?
Failure squats simply dont exist or you would severely hurt yourself
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Donny on September 30, 2024, 04:29:21 AM
going to failure means you wouldnt complete your last rep
How many times have you seen someone go that far so they end up stuck under the bar?
Failure squats simply dont exist or you would severely hurt yourself

i think rest/pause is good on some sets depending of course on the exercise. Squats i do to maybe 1 or 2 reps before failure & stop. To total failure is just dumb & asking for trouble.

Parallel bar dips i like Rest/pause to extend a set , can also do negative only if alone...but my point is a lot of these Heavy Duty principles bring injuries especially if alone.

I do not believe you will build any real muscle on 1 set.  Sure studies have been made but the least amount i will do is 2 sets on a full body workout but this is another thing.

Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on September 30, 2024, 06:18:51 AM


I like winding you up 😂🤣😂  as your like hungry fish & bite at anything .

But you're not winding me up at all. 😁

Did you train at Temple gym ??

Did you know / speak to Dorian ??

2  simple questions easy enough for even you to answer.................. ................

Which I have snswered. Pay more attention, little one. 😘

AND ?
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: IroNat on September 30, 2024, 11:41:31 AM
HIT has been surpassed by SHIT (Super High Intensity Training).
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: illuminati on September 30, 2024, 11:43:47 AM


I like winding you up 😂🤣😂  as your like hungry fish & bite at anything .

But you're not winding me up at all. 😁

Did you train at Temple gym ??

Did you know / speak to Dorian ??

2  simple questions easy enough for even you to answer.................. ................


AND ?
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: IroNat on September 30, 2024, 11:44:45 AM
you don´t & maybe for Oldtimer1  a 1 set to "failure" is all he can do given his age & running he says he does.
He says he´s a "Hybrid" athlete so probably why he doesn´t look like a bodybuilder.

I´m willing to bet that if he just did chins & push ups he would look exactly the same.

These Heavy Duty guys are brainwashed & regurgitate the same stuff over & over again.


I think you are right about this.

However, Oldtimer finds satisfaction in pushing himself to exhaustion in his training, even if it inhibits recovery.

He has admitted this is part of his personality. 
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: illuminati on September 30, 2024, 11:45:59 AM
Dorian proves nothing. He was a pharmaceutical walking experiment. A result of using massive amounts of growth hormone. His training had little to do with it. He never did hit.

HOW DO YOU KNOW?

Read his actual training journals, he trained conventionally.

DID YOU TRAIN AT TEMPLE GYM?

DID YOU KNOW DORIAN - WHAT DID HE TELL YOU ?

Dorian had stated that he used conventional methods to build up. Not hit.

YOUR JUST MAKING CRAP UP BECAUSE HE FUCKED YOUR GIRL OR SOME OTHER THING YOU COULDN’T
DO SHIT ABOUT.

Not making it up at all. Plus if you didn't really give a toss then why do you even reply?



I like winding you up 😂🤣😂  as your like hungry fish & bite at anything .

Did you train at Temple gym ??

Did you know / speak to Dorian ??

2  simple questions easy enough for even you to answer.................. ................

AND ?

.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Titus Pullo on September 30, 2024, 03:21:34 PM
The question about Dorian saying he used "conventional" methods to "build up" is disingenuous contextual dropping.

The querent asked how Dorian trained in his first year or two of training.  Rimjob strawmandered that, as he is wont to, either from sheer stupidity, lack of understanding English or his unbridled -- and highly curious -- utter hatred of anything that had anything to do with Mike "Meth-zer" (hurhur, how clever :/ ).

Did Mentzer buttfuck you or what, dude?  You only post here about HIT, Mentzer and John Heart. 

John's arms suck, but do you have a better build?

Waiting for your latest disrection :)
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on September 30, 2024, 10:41:14 PM
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"I like winding you up 😂🤣😂  as your like hungry fish & bite at anything."

But you're not winding me up at all. You're just winding up yourself. 🤣

"Did you train at Temple gym ??"

"Did you know / speak to Dorian ??"

"2  simple questions easy enough for even you to answer.................. ................"

Which I have answered. Pay more attention, little one. 😘
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on September 30, 2024, 10:49:24 PM
The question about Dorian saying he used "conventional" methods to "build up" is disingenuous contextual dropping.

The querent asked how Dorian trained in his first year or two of training.  Rimjob strawmandered that, as he is wont to, either from sheer stupidity, lack of understanding English or his unbridled -- and highly curious -- utter hatred of anything that had anything to do with Mike "Meth-zer" (hurhur, how clever :/ ).

Did Mentzer buttfuck you or what, dude?  You only post here about HIT, Mentzer and John Heart. 

John's arms suck, but do you have a better build?

Waiting for your latest disrection :)

Again, another getbigger who doesn't pay attention to the facts.

A lot of context gets taken out of Dorian Yates training methods. He did not use HIT. Rather he did pyramid sets...nothing radical about that...

Dorian in his teens did a mixture of weight lifting and martial arts. That is what built his foundation.

When he took up bodybuilding he did not do one set to failure he used conventional methods as is evident in his training journals. He did various methods such as pyramid sets, straight sets, reverse sets, drop sets. These are typical methods used by many bodybuilders over the decades. It's only later in his lifting career he stuck to pyramid sets shown in his blood and guts vid.

Example

Chest

Bench press 135x10 200x8 265x8 285x7 310x5 pyramid sets
Incline press 250x5 240x5 230x5 reverse sets
Incline flys 70x8 70x7 70x6 straight sets

Source: his 1985 to 1990 journal files

Yates even admitted on his own twitter account back in 2014 that he used traditional methods and not hit to build up

"AdamB

@Adambloor1984

7 Dec 2014

@Dorian_Yates

had you incorporated your HIT style of training at that stage? Or did you use the more traditional volume style?

Dorian Yates

@Dorian_Yates

7 Dec 2014

@Adambloor1984

traditional"

All this by Dorian himself. There has never been a successful hit only bodybuilder or athlete. Never.

Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 01, 2024, 01:09:55 AM
HIT has been surpassed by SHIT (Super High Intensity Training).
:D On Youtube I always write it as (s)HIT.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Donny on October 01, 2024, 02:31:06 AM
HIT has been surpassed by SHIT (Super High Intensity Training).
;D   but on a serious note for me personally Heavy Duty type training, or whatever it's called now is just another way to train.
Doesn't mean it's something superior.

Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on November 14, 2024, 11:17:08 AM
John Little spewing out lies once more. He still can't provide any evidence of heavy duty being superior to traditional methods as he so claims. The same traditional methods that methzer used to build up his physique and not hit.


i=ioyCOS4VhMW5wsGj
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on November 21, 2024, 06:16:34 AM
It’s very obvious that LurkerNoMore and RMJ11 are the same person.

LurkerNoMore has been obsessively posting in a copycat style for hours today

Example:
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Gym Rat on November 21, 2024, 06:27:25 AM
;D   but on a serious note for me personally Heavy Duty type training, or whatever it's called now is just another way to train.
Doesn't mean it's something superior.


Exactly right. Steroids, nutrition and genetic response to all of those will trump any single training style IMO.
All training works, if you work hard at it and are dedicated. Most 'gym rats' these days use tons of gear and "pump and pose"...
Do many pro's use "HIT"?? It seems the PPL leg thing is the thing to do.

I see many talking crap about "bro split" saying its useless.

Then I see their PPL split, and its basically the same thing (almost).

Showed his PPL as:

PPL
Push - Chest, Tri's, Shoulders
Pull - Back, Bi's
Legs - Legs

Then there's "bro split" as morons call it.

Split
Chest, Tri's
Back, Bi's
Legs, Delts

Social media nonsense... Just train and shut the f**k up..
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 21, 2024, 02:24:28 PM
It’s very obvious that LurkerNoMore and RMJ11 are the same person.

LurkerNoMore has been obsessively posting in a copycat style for hours today

Example:


It's very obvious that Little Bitch and Bipolar Mental Illnes are the same person.

Little Bitch has been obsessively posting in a meltdown style for hours today
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on November 22, 2024, 02:00:47 PM
It's very obvious that Little Bitch and Bipolar Mental Illnes are the same person.

Little Bitch has been obsessively posting in a meltdown style for hours today


LurkerNoMore is RMJ11. He can’t hide it. Look at his posting style. 😂
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 23, 2024, 04:11:56 AM
LurkerNoMore is RMJ11. He can’t hide it. Look at his posting style. 😂

Little Bitch is bipolar.  She can't hide it.  Look at her posting style.   :D
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on November 23, 2024, 05:12:58 AM
LurkerNoMore/RMJ11

Do you remember when you got caught lying about training at a Temple Gym during Dorian’s reign? That was great.  😃

Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 23, 2024, 05:19:46 AM
LurkerNoMore/RMJ11

Do you remember when you got caught lying about training at a Temple Gym during Dorian’s reign? That was great.  😃

Little Bitch

Do you remember when you got caught begging for hand pictures and wrong gimmick guessing?  Again.  That was great.   :D
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on November 23, 2024, 05:30:04 AM
LurkerNoMore is very upset.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 23, 2024, 05:37:11 AM
Little Bitch is very bipolar.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 23, 2024, 05:39:40 AM
Little Bitch has not stopped obsessing. 
Title: LurkerNoMore is RMJ11
Post by: Royalty on November 23, 2024, 05:46:39 AM
Heavy Duty
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 23, 2024, 05:52:27 AM
Bipolar
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: oldgolds on November 23, 2024, 06:00:07 AM
Why are you guys arguing about training? With steroids the training doesn't really matter, you put on muscle because of the drugs, most bodybuilders know very little about building muscle, look at their physiques without drugs....The whole sport is based on drugs ...Read the study, guys on steroids put on muscle while not even training, more so than natty guys who were training. That's why the whole thing is so phony.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dar.12433
Title: LurkerNoMore is definitely RMJ11
Post by: Royalty on November 23, 2024, 06:02:31 AM
Heavy Duty
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 23, 2024, 06:02:59 AM
Hand Fetish
Title: LurkerNoMore is clearly RMJ11
Post by: Royalty on November 23, 2024, 06:13:18 AM
Heavy Duty
Title: RMJ11 is LurkerNoMore
Post by: Royalty on November 23, 2024, 06:47:12 AM
Heavy Duty
Title: LurkerNoMore = RMJ11
Post by: Royalty on November 23, 2024, 07:30:44 AM
Heavy Duty
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 23, 2024, 09:59:05 AM
Meltdown.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on November 23, 2024, 01:21:10 PM
Why are you guys arguing about training? With steroids the training doesn't really matter, you put on muscle because of the drugs, most bodybuilders know very little about building muscle, look at their physiques without drugs....The whole sport is based on drugs ...Read the study, guys on steroids put on muscle while not even training, more so than natty guys who were training. That's why the whole thing is so phony.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dar.12433

Wrong.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on November 23, 2024, 01:23:22 PM
To royalty.

Both Yates and meth head built their bodies with traditional methods. Neither ever did hit. There has never ever been a successful bodybuilder who has built their body with hit alone. Not one. Hit is nothing but a marketing scam. Nothing more.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 23, 2024, 03:06:22 PM
To royalty.

Both Yates and meth head built their bodies with traditional methods. Neither ever did hit. There has never ever been a successful bodybuilder who has built their body with hit alone. Not one. Hit is nothing but a marketing scam. Nothing more.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 24, 2024, 12:45:55 AM
To royalty.

Both Yates and meth head built their bodies with traditional methods. Neither ever did hit. There has never ever been a successful bodybuilder who has built their body with hit alone. Not one. Hit is nothing but a marketing scam. Nothing more.
:D
Title: LurkerNoMore is RMJ11
Post by: Royalty on November 24, 2024, 02:47:39 AM
Heavy Duty
Title: LurkerNoMore is RMJ11
Post by: Royalty on November 24, 2024, 02:50:17 AM
To royalty.

Both Yates and meth head built their bodies with traditional methods. Neither ever did hit. There has never ever been a successful bodybuilder who has built their body with hit alone. Not one. Hit is nothing but a marketing scam. Nothing more.

Clearly RMJ11 wrote this
Title: RMJ11 is LurkerNoMore
Post by: Royalty on November 24, 2024, 02:58:45 AM
Heavy Duty
Title: Re: RMJ11 is LurkerNoMore
Post by: Rmj11 on November 24, 2024, 05:10:19 AM
Heavy Duty doesn't work. Both Yates and meth head used traditional methods to build up.

Glad you agree.
Title: Re: LurkerNoMore is RMJ11
Post by: Rmj11 on November 24, 2024, 05:11:35 AM
Clearly RMJ11 wrote this

Did I now?
Title: Re: RMJ11 is LurkerNoMore
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 24, 2024, 05:20:21 AM
Heavy Duty doesn't work. Both Yates and meth head used traditional methods to build up.

Glad you agree.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 24, 2024, 05:21:57 AM
Clearly RMJ11 wrote this

Did I now?
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on December 01, 2024, 02:00:47 PM
LurkerNoMore/RMJ11

Do you remember when you got caught lying about training at a Temple Gym during Dorian’s reign? That was great.  😃

I never lied because I never stated such nonsense in the first place, little one. Do pay attention.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 01, 2024, 02:18:47 PM
LurkerNoMore/RMJ11

Do you remember when you got caught lying about training at a Temple Gym during Dorian’s reign? That was great.  😃

I never lied because I never stated such nonsense in the first place, little one. Do pay attention.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on December 01, 2024, 03:05:55 PM
▫️
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 01, 2024, 04:49:50 PM
Look at Little Bitch on her bipolar posting spree.   She’s really upset today. 
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on December 02, 2024, 10:13:07 PM
Look at Little Bitch on her bipolar posting spree.   She’s really upset today.

RMJ11 Gimmick Outed
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2024, 10:26:28 PM
Mental illness strikes again.  Same crap.  Different thread.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on December 02, 2024, 10:36:47 PM
GOLD
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2024, 10:47:03 PM
Look new material…. No wait it isn’t.  Same old homo, same old mental illness, same old posts…

Pulling a bipolar all nighter. 
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on December 02, 2024, 10:52:17 PM
Look new material…. No wait it isn’t.  Same old homo, same old mental illness, same old posts…

Pulling a bipolar all nighter.

RMJ11 your bullshit is DONE
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2024, 10:57:47 PM
Little Bitch your bipolar illness is NOT DONE.

You have it for life.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on December 02, 2024, 11:03:29 PM
Little Bitch your bipolar illness is NOT DONE.

You have it for life.

Unlike you, my mind is 100% sound 😂

You got caught 😂

Your hatred of Mentzer gave you away! 
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2024, 11:05:08 PM
Denial is an indication of untreated mental illness.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on December 02, 2024, 11:11:09 PM
Denial is an indication of untreated mental illness.

You got caught. It’s over. 😂
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2024, 11:12:18 PM
You got caught. It’s over. 😂

You’re bipolar.  It’s never ending.  :D :D
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on December 02, 2024, 11:14:25 PM
You’re bipolar.  It’s never ending.  :D :D

You got caught.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2024, 11:16:13 PM
2:15am and Little Bitch is still rage posting.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on December 02, 2024, 11:16:40 PM
2:15am and Little Bitch is still rage posting.

You got caught.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 02, 2024, 11:33:48 PM
2:45am and the bipolar OCD homo is awake and repeating herself. 
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on December 03, 2024, 12:06:37 AM
2:45am and the bipolar OCD homo is awake and repeating herself.

You’re hatred for Mentzer was your undoing.


You got caught.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 03, 2024, 12:15:29 AM
What time is it now?
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on December 03, 2024, 12:17:28 AM
What time is it now?

Your anger towards Mentzer gave you away RMJ11
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on December 03, 2024, 12:19:05 AM
What time is it now?

Your anger towards Mentzer gave you away RMJ11
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Marvin Martian on December 03, 2024, 12:20:20 AM
This thread confuses the fck out of me. If someone can please help?
- Why in the fck would anyone care if you knew they had another screen name?
- Why would anyone even bother to have a second screen name? I don’t understand what the benefit would be?
- Why would anyone else give a shit either way??

This just seems weird. I don’t log in for days (longer often) and come back and this Royalty dude is still acting like he has solved the Hoffa murder.

It’s REALLY not that important dude. And it makes you look like an odd fckr. But I am 100% for letting anyone say whatever they like. It just is and really weak look man.
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Royalty on December 03, 2024, 12:23:57 AM
This thread confuses the fck out of me. If someone can please help?
- Why in the fck would anyone care if you knew they had another screen name?
- Why would anyone even bother to have a second screen name? I don’t understand what the benefit would be?
- Why would anyone else give a shit either way??

This just seems weird. I don’t log in for days (longer often) and come back and this Royalty dude is still acting like he has solved the Hoffa murder.

It’s REALLY not that important dude. And it makes you look like an odd fckr. But I am 100% for letting anyone say whatever they like. It just is and really weak look man.

You Got Caught LurkerNoMore/RMJ11
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 03, 2024, 12:50:32 AM
This thread confuses the fck out of me. If someone can please help?
- Why in the fck would anyone care if you knew they had another screen name?
- Why would anyone even bother to have a second screen name? I don’t understand what the benefit would be?
- Why would anyone else give a shit either way??

This just seems weird. I don’t log in for days (longer often) and come back and this Royalty dude is still acting like he has solved the Hoffa murder.

It’s REALLY not that important dude. And it makes you look like an odd fckr. But I am 100% for letting anyone say whatever they like. It just is and really weak look man.

The funny thing is that she has been told more than once by the mods that her guesses are incorrect and I have no other account. 

But being bipolar says otherwise.   :D :D :D
Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: Rmj11 on January 01, 2025, 01:21:45 AM
John little still promoting the myth that methzer somehow scared Arnold into sitting down when actually Arnold was talking calmly to meth head about discussing the different weight categories in the contest. methzer got all upset because Arnold stated a fact about methzer's protruding gut and how he lost to Zane the year before because of it. This fact dented methzer's fragile ego so he tried to look tough in front of his then girlfriend by trying to attack Arnold but ended up embarrassing himself big time. 😆😆

Anyhow, here's little with the pic. Funny how the pic shows the Oak from his front and methzer from the back. Anyone who didn't know different would see this as a pic of a young Arnold just chilling with some guys. They wouldn't have a clue who methzer was....😆

Title: Re: John Little wrong again
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 01, 2025, 06:09:20 AM
John little still promoting the myth that methzer somehow scared Arnold into sitting down when actually Arnold was talking calmly to meth head about discussing the different weight categories in the contest. methzer got all upset because Arnold stated a fact about methzer's protruding gut and how he lost to Zane the year before because of it. This fact dented methzer's fragile ego so he tried to look tough in front of his then girlfriend by trying to attack Arnold but ended up embarrassing himself big time. 😆😆

Anyhow, here's little with the pic. Funny how the pic shows the Oak from his front and methzer from the back. Anyone who didn't know different would see this as a pic of a young Arnold just chilling with some guys. They wouldn't have a clue who methzer was....😆

I bet Arnold railed his then girlfriend at some point as well.  Physique, career, success, popularity,... Arnold always left Mentzer in the dust in every conceivable way.