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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: obsidian on August 25, 2024, 10:38:43 AM
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Toncoin down 15%. A lot of people going to be pissed off with France / Deep State. More tyranny from the West. Time to cut off the head of the snake. They need to bleed.
But why did he visit France in the first place? It's a fucking shithole.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/telegram-messaging-app-ceo-pavel-durov-arrested-france-tf1-tv-says-2024-08-24/
Telegram messaging app CEO Durov arrested in France
PARIS/MOSCOW, Aug 25 (Reuters) - Pavel Durov, the Russian-born billionaire founder and owner of the Telegram messaging app, was arrested at Le Bourget airport outside Paris shortly after landing on a private jet late on Saturday and placed in custody, three sources told Reuters.
The arrest of the 39-year-old technology billionaire prompted on Sunday a warning from Moscow to Paris that he should be accorded his rights and criticism from X owner Elon Musk who said that free speech in Europe was under attack.
There was no official confirmation from France of the arrest, but two French police sources and one Russian source who spoke on condition of anonymity said that Durov was arrested shortly after arriving at Le Bourget airport on a private jet from Azerbaijan.
One of the two French police sources said that ahead of the jet's arrival police had spotted he was on the passenger list and moved to arrest him because he was the subject of an arrest warrant in France.
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Musk, billionaire owner of X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, said after reports of Durov's detention: "It's 2030 in Europe and you’re being executed for liking a meme."
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Does this suggest that Telegram will be breached and made open to the authorities so they can track people down? Or simply blocked so people can't talk privately?
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Arrested for WHAT????
Saying some shit on Telegram/Facebook???
Is that how it is now?
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Does this suggest that Telegram will be breached and made open to the authorities so they can track people down? Or simply blocked so people can't talk privately?
Could be. This is a political move. Free speech is the loser again. Things will change once these bureaucrats start dropping like flies.
From the same article:
"After Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Telegram has become the main source of unfiltered - and sometimes graphic and misleading - content from both sides about the war and the politics surrounding the conflict.
The platform has become what some analysts call 'a virtual battlefield' for the war, used heavily by Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy and his officials, as well as the Russian government.
Russia's foreign ministry said it had sent a note to Paris demanding access to Durov, although it said that he had French citizenship."
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Arrested for WHAT????
Saying some shit on Telegram/Facebook???
Is that how it is now?
Arrested for creating an app that resists censorship. How about those being censored skip to assassinations and targeted killings? They want to escalate things, ok. Many realize now it is a street fight. So run what ya brung.
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When the parent ( USA ) is weak in leadership over to long if a period these are the things that will continue to happen.
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Arrested for creating an app that resists censorship. How about those being censored skip to assassinations and targeted killings? They want to escalate things, ok. Many realize now it is a street fight. So run what ya brung.
Gotta be an Order from Deep State!
FUCK SAKE! They sure love their censorship
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Very stupid of him to travel to France / EU. He could have known he runs a risk of getting life in jail. Why on earth travel to a country with a 90% risk of being arrested?
He's very rich, so many other possible destinations. It seems he isn't acting rationally anymore.
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Very stupid of him to travel to France / EU. He could have known he runs a risk of getting life in jail. Why on earth travel to a country with a 90% risk of being arrested?
He's very rich, so many other possible destinations. It seems he isn't acting rationally anymore.
Any safe haven in Europe though?
Hungary? Poland?
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Telegram is a haven for pedophiles, child pornography, Islamist terrorists and hackers who destroy businesses. That's why he was arrested. let's not forget that he has dual nationality, French and Russian.
He doesn't risk much in France unless the United States calls for his head
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If only there was someone Americans could vote for that was clearly opposed to this, who they were so afraid of they tried to shoot and who had been endorsed by a Kennedy. Step up or bend over
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If only there was someone Americans could vote for that was clearly opposed to this, who they were so afraid of they tried to shoot and who had been endorsed by a Kennedy. Step up or bend over
What was his stance on Tik Tok? Didn't he change it a bit?
I don't think you can have a government that doesn't seek information suppression.
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What was his stance on Tik Tok? Didn't he change it a bit?
I don't think you can have a government that doesn't seek information suppression.
It's 100% clear he's not on the side of the censors and liars like the Ds and Left. Both sides are not the same here. RFK makes that point very clear.
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The digital ID is coming which removes privacy.
Knowing you kiss privacy goodbye and knowing your guns are also going to become massively restricted as a result, is this enough for those who glorify themselves by repeating the constitution to claim they are now under a tyrannical govt?
Or will you all vote Michelle Obama in as next president and ‘see how it goes’?
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It's 100% clear he's not on the side of the censors and liars like the Ds and Left. Both sides are not the same here. RFK makes that point very clear.
The left seem massively more censorious but the right censors plenty, see for example how we are allowed to talk about race. And that's that's what most internet censorship is about isn't it, on base level?
And come on man... politics = lying ;D
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The left seem massively more censorious but the right censors plenty, see for example how we are allowed to talk about race. And that's that's what most internet censorship is about isn't it, on base level?
And come on man... politics = lying ;D
Interesting discussion on free speech in the UK.
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Telegram is a haven for pedophiles, child pornography, Islamist terrorists and hackers who destroy businesses. That's why he was arrested. let's not forget that he has dual nationality, French and Russian.
He doesn't risk much in France unless the United States calls for his head
France = woke extremism. No freedom of speech for many decades. Extreme left wing bureaucrats silence everyone who isn't woke / DEI with skyhigh fines and jail sentences.
Oppressing their own people with the islamization of France as their goal. All French cities are black / full of desert people.
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Telegram is a haven for pedophiles, child pornography, Islamist terrorists and hackers who destroy businesses. That's why he was arrested. let's not forget that he has dual nationality, French and Russian.
He doesn't risk much in France unless the United States calls for his head
It's because he's not accepted the EU online censorship.
Rumble is another platform doing the same, incidentally the grounder of Rumble has fled Europe since the arrest.
All the stuff you mentioned is just their excuses to close him down.
You French were always weaklings.
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France = woke extremism. No freedom of speech for many decades. Extreme left wing bureaucrats silence everyone who isn't woke / DEI with skyhigh fines and jail sentences.
Oppressing their own people with the islamization of France as their goal. All French cities are black / full of desert people.
Exactly & it's basically nearly all over Europe
Look at Von der Leyen who is unwanted & unelected but is in power for another term.
Platforms like Telegram probably are used for other purposes but you won't see that sort of stuff unless you specifically look for it which I certainly don't.
Like many others I like to watch the critical channels which are censored in other platforms like YouTube
Macron is a Globalist puppet who is a prodogie of klaus schwab & other like minded tyrants who promote Mass immigration & sexual depravity in schools .
They promote East German style indoctrination in kindergartens
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In America ppl get fired for what they say on Facebook ect. We don't have true freedom of speech anymore. Personally I don't post anything anyway but it's crazy when u think about it
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The left seem massively more censorious but the right censors plenty, see for example how we are allowed to talk about race. And that's that's what most internet censorship is about isn't it, on base level?
And come on man... politics = lying ;D
The Left wants to censor political speech while shadow banning any "science" that doesn't agree with their narrative. The Right wants to censor mostly pornography and anything Chinese.
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The left seem massively more censorious but the right censors plenty, see for example how we are allowed to talk about race. And that's that's what most internet censorship is about isn't it, on base level?
And come on man... politics = lying ;D
So the Left is far worse, we agree. Why try to equate the two? Some people just can't get off the fence.
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what do people mean by free speech?
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what do people mean by free speech?
The right to say whatever you want without being arrested or financially destroyed, regardless of your political or race views.
The Founding Fathers were free to discuss their rebellion against the tyrannical British rule in North America. With the help of France, they succeeded in ridding the future US of British tyranny. The US is becoming tyrannical again. The public should be free to discuss the tyranny and the removal of such if necessary. The citizens should have the means to combat / overthrow / replace tyrannical rule. The Second Amendment was not created to safeguard hunting. It was to prevent a tyrannical rule - the kind experienced before the War for Independence.
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So the Left is far worse, we agree. Why try to equate the two? Some people just can't get off the fence.
Because to me the censorship from both sides feels so massively oppressive. Both sides are constantly fighting over control of information. The "right" is only interested in free speech as long as that free speech is likely to help them, which it can do right now with X etc. Yes I'm pretty black pilled or whatever you want to call it lol. A "right wing" government in the US will not support free Russian or Chinese speech, propaganda, on social media. Nor "white supremacist" free speech although Musk let back some of those types. But there are strict limits. A Trump admin will not stop hounding white supremacists, which are most of us on Getbig. Not that we all agree on the designation but that's what they call anyone against immigration or whatever.
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arrested for making a messaging app allowing free speech
fucking hell what a shitty place earth has become
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It's a dangerous world with liberals in charge.
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arrested for making a messaging app allowing free speech
fucking hell what a shitty place earth has become
We are heading down a scary path.
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We are heading down a scary path.
Yeah soon we will have opinion-cops
oooh we don't allow that opinion of yours- arrested for thinking and having your own thoughts..
people have been meming that 1984 by George Orwell was a manual for the western goverments ...pretty f*cking accurate right now
well tbh already the Covid shitshow shined light on this totalitarianism aswell
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Dude looks more fit and better than Zuckerberg, or any other tech leader:
(https://imagenes.elpais.com/resizer/v2/5CJE5C2HPRCBDI3WJRHKPEYXKQ.jpg?auth=20f82e6f0d4312c1fd8097b41bac23c4afe11f76a192f4b0e1b4bd6bfc317f36&width=980&height=980&focal=749%2C406)
(https://cdn4.focus.bg/fakti/photos/16x9/5fd/sasht-stoat-zad-aresta-na-pavel-durov-tvardi-rusia-1.webp)
But perhaps he should have trained a bit less, and listened better to good advisors. They could have warned him how woke / DEI / WEF fascist the EU is, so he could have avoided arrest and possibly decades in jail.
Maybe his girlfriend wanted to go shopping in Paris? Very expensive trip..
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Dude looks more fit and better than Zuckerberg, or any other tech leader:
(https://imagenes.elpais.com/resizer/v2/5CJE5C2HPRCBDI3WJRHKPEYXKQ.jpg?auth=20f82e6f0d4312c1fd8097b41bac23c4afe11f76a192f4b0e1b4bd6bfc317f36&width=980&height=980&focal=749%2C406)
(https://cdn4.focus.bg/fakti/photos/16x9/5fd/sasht-stoat-zad-aresta-na-pavel-durov-tvardi-rusia-1.webp)
But perhaps he should have trained a bit less, and listened better to good advisors. They could have warned him how woke / DEI / WEF fascist the EU is, so he could have avoided arrest and possibly decades in jail.
Maybe his girlfriend wanted to go shopping in Paris? Very expensive trip..
hairtransplants, plastic surgery and TRT+
but yeah looks good and if you're naive you could think "wow great genetics"
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Does this suggest that Telegram will be breached and made open to the authorities so they can track people down? Or simply blocked so people can't talk privately?
I would suggest it may already be compromised by the Russians who have a backdoor. Which explains why he has not already been assasinated by Putin.
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You'd think he would have lived in a country where he couldn't get extradited.
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You'd think he would have lived in a country where he couldn't get extradited.
indeed
but how attractive are such countries to actually live in?
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indeed
but how attractive are such countries to actually live in?
Better than a 2 by 3 metre room for the rest of his life.
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indeed
but how attractive are such countries to actually live in?
Very attractive if you have lots of money, like the telegram dude has.
He can live like a God in countries that for example do not extradite to the USA, such as Vietnam, UAE or Montenegro.
https://www.globalcitizensolutions.com/non-extradition-countries/
Even unsafe countries can be appealing if you are wealthy. He can afford the security that's needed. And compared to being locked up for 20 years many such crountries look very desirable.
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This is the hypocrisy of the left. They began the hysteria around "misinformation" during covid and the 2020 election. First arguing that anything that was said about covid and not in lock-step with mandates, lockdowns and vaccines was misinformation.
This was after they had been using misinformation for years to paint trump as a diabolical mad man. Ironically they accused him of spreading misinformation about covid while at the same time using misinformation to create the narrative around the Jan 6th incursion, which was nothing more than a series of still shots, tweets, only a handful of actual assaults and a walk through of the capital building, presented by the media and the left as an organized coup attempt by Trump. And ultimately used to censor him from social media.
Now, at the same time George Gloyd rioters were burning dpwn buildings the collective left (politicians, media, lawyers, journalists, judges) framed it as free speech, and constitutionally protected activity.
I don't know much about European current events. But the articles I read out of the UK, France (and actually Canada and Australia as well for that matter) are the stuff of nightmares. Its an overused cliche but it's mirroring 1984. Truly Orwellian.
It's commonplace now. The masses have accepted it.. The larger social media apps have "fact cjeckers" who are frequently wrong. The us government now has a department of misinformation (i can't recall the exact name but the idea is it will identify what they consider to be misinformation and, I assume, censor it)
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hairtransplants, plastic surgery and TRT+
but yeah looks good and if you're naive you could think "wow great genetics"
Still, you can see that he has better genes than Zuckerberg or Amazons Jeff Bezos
Any other Tech-leader with decent genetics?
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Still, you can see that he has better genes than Zuckerberg or Amazons Jeff Bezos
Any other Tech-leader with decent genetics?
Fat never training Woz now is 74 and has outlived both Jobs and Paul Allen
(https://cdn.geekwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/INF_3249.jpg)
(https://1734811051.rsc.cdn77.org/data/images/full/374064/steve-jobs-vs-steve-wozniak-why-does-jobs-receive-more-recognition-for-apple.png)
(https://marketingweek.imgix.net/content/uploads/2013/10/steve-wozniak-image.jpg?auto=compress,format&q=60&w=476&h=382)
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Dude looks more fit and better than Zuckerberg, or any other tech leader:
(https://imagenes.elpais.com/resizer/v2/5CJE5C2HPRCBDI3WJRHKPEYXKQ.jpg?auth=20f82e6f0d4312c1fd8097b41bac23c4afe11f76a192f4b0e1b4bd6bfc317f36&width=980&height=980&focal=749%2C406)
(https://cdn4.focus.bg/fakti/photos/16x9/5fd/sasht-stoat-zad-aresta-na-pavel-durov-tvardi-rusia-1.webp)
But perhaps he should have trained a bit less, and listened better to good advisors. They could have warned him how woke / DEI / WEF fascist the EU is, so he could have avoided arrest and possibly decades in jail.
Maybe his girlfriend wanted to go shopping in Paris? Very expensive trip..
Did I read it right the other day, dude also has 100 biological children?!
I don't understand the Russian official stance on this. I read that he ultimately sold VK due to the government pressuring him to give them access and now it's government owned. But now they have a problem with the arrest? Lol. Obviously it's extremely hypocritical but laughable at the same time.
Anyone feel prescient, what will happen in this case? Prison or give up the keyes etc?
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indeed
but how attractive are such countries to actually live in?
Greece has nice food and weather. Craig Titus was going there but didn't make it.
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Telegram is a haven for pedophiles, child pornography, Islamist terrorists and hackers who destroy businesses. That's why he was arrested
And there's a lot of midget p0rn on there too. Or so I heard...
I would suggest it may already be compromised by the Russians who have a backdoor. Which explains why he has not already been assasinated by Putin.
Thanks
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These extreme Liburd's here like Lurker, PrimePedo Fagnostic and Funk are pretty much an embarrassment to mankind.