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https://news.sky.com/story/jury-in-civil-court-finds-conor-mcgregor-raped-woman-in-hotel-and-awards-her-188-000-13257049
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Should go to prison. See how he'd do against complete remorseless psychopaths with nothing to lose
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McGregor "came on to her", but she did not want to have sexual intercourse with him as she was on her period, the court heard.
she must have read about Desire Washington
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What a joke.
Golddigger.
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she must have read about Desire Washington
Don't do that. If you have a sister, cousin, daughter, wife etc... I'm not saying to believe all women but this isn't the case someone going to another persons hotel room at 2 in the morning.
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Should go to prison. See how he'd do against complete remorseless psychopaths with nothing to lose
not enough evidence for a criminal trial
Civil lower threshold = balance of probabilities
Criminal = beyond a reasonable doubt
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Don't do that. If you have a sister, cousin, daughter, wife etc... I'm not saying to believe all women but this isn't the case someone going to another persons hotel room at 2 in the morning.
Its exactly that, and with two men
Before the assault, Ms Hand had contacted the fighter, who picked up her and a friend in his car.
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not enough evidence for a criminal trial
Civil lower threshold = balance of probabilities
Criminal = beyond a reasonable doubt
Ah, so you guys do the same way we do. So this doesn't hold as much weight as I thought it did. But in the eyes of the masses, he raped a broad on her period. That's not going to go over so well with anyone for a very long time.
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Ah, so you guys do the same way we do So this doesn't hold as much weight as I thought it did. But in the eyes of the masses, he raped a broad on her period. That's not going to go over so well with anyone for a very long time.
Technically you do it the way we do, we invented it. ;D
agreed about the effect its going to have on his career, wonder what his long term partner who he has 4 kids with thinks about it.
I sense hes about to lose half of everything
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Fuck him! He puts himself in these situations, no remorse
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Technically you do it the way we do, we invented it. ;D
agreed about the effect its going to have on his career, wonder what his long term partner who he has 4 kids with thinks about it.
I sense hes about to lose half of everything
Ha,ha fair play. ;D
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Liable there is no guilty in civil court
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Liable there is no guilty in civil court
Just like in your cases, right?
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Most expensive sex of his life.
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Liable there is no guilty in civil court
says the slippery snake abuser with a good lawyer
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Liable there is no guilty in civil court
As a legal scholar, what is your prediction of the outcome of the appeals to be filed by McGregor's attorneys, Bhanky?
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Only 200k?
Someone link her to the bitcoin thread so she can bet it all on satoshi and get rich.
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Liable there is no guilty in civil court
fuckoff
its about burden of proof you fucking moron not liability
if the burden of proof is sufficient the claimant wins. it is up to them to prove that burden not the defence to prove otherwise.
you'll never go to law school you arrogant trust fund police informant coward. when you off to Victorias secrets for a bra fat tits? what next in cosmetic surgery? I suggest lip and a tummy tuck you lazy slob
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I read he put the rape victim in a choke hold, while raping her, and then told her: "This is what it feels like to be in the octagon". Jeez.
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I read he put the rape victim in a choke hold, while raping her, and then told her: "This is what it feels like to be in the octagon". Jeez.
Thats what Nate Diaz whispered in his ear...
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apparently it was the most one sided MMA bout since Clegg vs hankins.
It was believed hankins was also on her period during that bout.
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Just like in your cases, right?
I have never been found liable for anything in a civil court case
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As a legal scholar, what is your prediction of the outcome of the appeals to be filed by McGregor's attorneys, Bhanky?
Its 250k he is worth 250m what does he care
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Its 250k he is worth 250m what does he care
therein speaks a potential sex offender
a man has a claim of rape go against him
you think of the money so what
you don't think of the stain on your character. you fucking beast.
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mcgregor was knocking around with a lad called 'the lam' in Liverpool- the Lam has since got 36 our 38 rec for drugs importations. he is with the kinahans. anyway while with them on a bender he got a girl pregnant over here and is paying her a monthly stipend to keep it out the papers. his wife knows but blames the women. he's notorious for treating women as bad as hankins. except he'd never leave one t burn to death
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therein speaks a potential sex offender
a man has a claim of rape go against him
you think of the money so what
you don't think of the stain on your character. you fucking beast.
The dude is a deranged coke head wtf character are we talking about here
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The dude is a deranged coke head wtf character are we talking about here
the fact is you saw the damage being financial and he could afford it so what gives. everyone else thought how much they'd hate to have a rapist tag. you didnt even consider that. speaks volumes. for a woman beater.
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the fact is you saw the damage being financial and he could afford it so what gives. everyone else thought how much they'd hate to have a rapist tag. you didnt even consider that. speaks volumes. for a woman beater.
Except He hasnt been convicted of rape you dumb fuck
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Just like in your cases, right?
Nobody listens to low life’s that repetitively lurk in public restrooms.
You are a registered sex offender.
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Except He hasnt been convicted of rape you dumb fuck
he has lost in civil court- doyou think he raped her or not you rape apologist
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Its 250k he is worth 250m what does he care
Wow, just Wow... hes a rapist in the yes of the law (civil) but at least he can afford it, why would he care if hes a rapist?
I thought you couldnt stoop any fucking lower
It also reveals your past in all its disgusting shitty ways
I will just act exactly as I like as long as I can buy my way out
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Except He hasnt been convicted of rape you dumb fuck
no hes been found liable for rape, that means on the balance of probabilities hes a rapist
She won her case, she can now call him a rapist, and so can everyone else
(https://i.ibb.co/4gH4gXv/Screenshot-2024-11-22-at-23-02-02.png)
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soooooooo in brians eyes if its proven in a civil court it doesnt consitute guilt if you can pay
his charges that were expunged he paid off didnt he
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https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1122/1482472-conor-mcgregor-court/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1122/1482472-conor-mcgregor-court/)
A jury at the High Court found Mr McGregor raped Ms Hand in a hotel in Dublin in December 2018 and awarded her almost €250,000 in damages.
The jury found that Mr McGregor's friend, James Lawrence did not rape Ms Hand.
Her lawyers had alleged that he had falsely claimed he had sex with Ms Hand on the same day in order to damage her character.
Ms Hand claimed she was raped in the Beacon Hotel in Dublin on 9 December 2018 by Mr McGregor.
Mr Lawrence claimed he had sex with her after Mr McGregor left. Ms Hand said she had no memory of this.
The next morning she had to have a tampon removed by a doctor in hospital using a forceps.
The doctor described her as having a multitude of injuries which he categorised as "moderate to severe".
Both men accused Ms Hand of lying. Mr McGregor said Ms Hand was "full of lies".
He said he had consensual sex with her which he described as athletic and vigorous. He said there was no tampon and the bruising on her body did not come from him.
Mr Lawrence said he also had consensual sex with Ms Hand after Mr McGregor left.
He said there was no tampon and no bruising other than a small bruise on her leg or arm. He denied being a "fall guy" for Mr McGregor or involved in collusion to make Ms Hand look bad
She said Mr McGregor would not take no for an answer, pinned her down and choked her three times before brutally raping her, leaving her with severe bruising
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soooooooo in brians eyes if its proven in a civil court it doesnt consitute guilt if you can pay
his charges that were expunged he paid off didnt he
I have decided how much of a kunt Brian is but this thread his taken him down even further, I didnt think that would be possible
Any man with a shred of morals would give up $250m as long as they were not thought of as a rapist.
Simple question to any men reading this thread
"Would you go through the rest of your life being thought of as a rapist for $250m?"
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he has definitely knocked the shit out of a few women and abused them
thats a common feature in men who are scared by other men- pick a weaker opponent and bully them.
hes a bully with no stones. I despise him. genuinely despise him.
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Everywhere Connor goes from now on everyone will be looking at him and thinking "rapist"
Im sure he will take comfort in his money sipping his whiskey sitting in obscurity.
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https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1122/1482472-conor-mcgregor-court/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1122/1482472-conor-mcgregor-court/)
A jury at the High Court found Mr McGregor raped Ms Hand in a hotel in Dublin in December 2018 and awarded her almost €250,000 in damages.
The jury found that Mr McGregor's friend, James Lawrence did not rape Ms Hand.
Her lawyers had alleged that he had falsely claimed he had sex with Ms Hand on the same day in order to damage her character.
Ms Hand claimed she was raped in the Beacon Hotel in Dublin on 9 December 2018 by Mr McGregor.
Mr Lawrence claimed he had sex with her after Mr McGregor left. Ms Hand said she had no memory of this.
The next morning she had to have a tampon removed by a doctor in hospital using a forceps.
The doctor described her as having a multitude of injuries which he categorised as "moderate to severe".
Both men accused Ms Hand of lying. Mr McGregor said Ms Hand was "full of lies".
He said he had consensual sex with her which he described as athletic and vigorous. He said there was no tampon and the bruising on her body did not come from him.
Mr Lawrence said he also had consensual sex with Ms Hand after Mr McGregor left.
He said there was no tampon and no bruising other than a small bruise on her leg or arm. He denied being a "fall guy" for Mr McGregor or involved in collusion to make Ms Hand look bad
She said Mr McGregor would not take no for an answer, pinned her down and choked her three times before brutally raping her, leaving her with severe bruising
Sounds like a real piece of shit. No wonder bhank is defending him.
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I have decided how much of a kunt Brian is but this thread his taken him down even further, I didnt think that would be possible
Any man with a shred of morals would give up $250m as long as they were not thought of as a rapist.
Simple question to any men reading this thread
"Would you go through the rest of your life being thought of as a rapist for $250m?"
ABSUFUCKING LOOTELY YOU IDIOTS CLAIM I DID ALL KINDS OF SHIT I DIDNT DO FOR 0
250M IS FUCK THE WORLD AND WHAT THEY THINK KIND OF MONEY
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he has lost in civil court- doyou think he raped her or not you rape apologist
No if he had he would have been charged and convicted he wasnt
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Everywhere Connor goes from now on everyone will be looking at him and thinking "rapist"
Im sure he will take comfort in his money sipping his whiskey sitting in obscurity.
No only idiots who dont understand he hasnt been convicted of a damn thing
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No if he had he would have been charged and convicted he wasnt
you are aware that being frond guilty or not guilty has absolutly nothing to do with the fact you did or didnt do something?
Its simply what a lawyer can convince a jury of
The Crwon prosecution service didnt prosecute because they couldnt reach the threshold of a potential conviction, the civil court the burden of proof is less, hes been found that he did indeed rape her by a jury in a civil case
Hes a rapist
And no, $250m isnt "fuck you money" unless you have no moral compass, thats you all over Brian
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no hes been found liable for rape, that means on the balance of probabilities hes a rapist
She won her case, she can now call him a rapist, and so can everyone else
(https://i.ibb.co/4gH4gXv/Screenshot-2024-11-22-at-23-02-02.png)
Ther are stupid reporters who write click bait headlines shocking
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soooooooo in brians eyes if its proven in a civil court it doesnt consitute guilt if you can pay
his charges that were expunged he paid off didnt he
Nothing ever gets proven in civil court moron there is no guilt or innocence in civil court
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No only idiots who dont understand he hasnt been convicted of a damn thing
But hes liable, people can now legally refer to him as a rapist and he cant do a single thing about it
This argument is you all over Brian, you think you didnt do anything because you used high priced lawyers to get you off and paid to have your record expunged
You still did all those disgusting things like beating and abusing women
You cant ever get away from that
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its proven or not proven
its not about guilt or innocence
I would love to bite your fucking nose off you fat titted arrogant woman beating police grass
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Nothing ever gets proven in civil court moron there is no guilt or innocence in civil court
The court found that on the balance of probabilities he raped her, thats it, hes a rapist
Get fucked with your semantics
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mcgregor is a rapist
brian is a woman beater
one of them was a decent mma fighter
the other never won a fight in his life
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Should go to prison. See how he'd do against complete remorseless psychopaths with nothing to lose
He would get his face caved in quickly.
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Liable there is no guilty in civil court
.......says Perry Mason.
::)
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Never mind about legal definitions, Brian's behaviour and responses in this thread make it certain he'd beat women, because he's admitted that he effectively cares nothing about right or wrong only what he can get away with. Soul-less pathetic cowardly wretch. Harms women,. neglects his kid, doesn't work, goes to the authorities when challenged (and in fear of) a real man. What a piece of shit. There's no amount of $$$ on this earth that would make me want to be him.
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So the concensus here is most likely Conor is guilty, not just judged guilty but for real? Hell if I know. I had thought he was a bit of hero around here but maybe mistaken. Would he be victimized in Irish jail?
People forgive and forget some dudes crimes, Tyson for example, the whole world forgives him. Maybe they don't believe the charges or maybe they think he was a mental midget who didn't understand social codes and conduct? :D
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Conor seems like he'll be down for some consensual buttocks fucking.
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I have decided how much of a kunt Brian is but this thread his taken him down even further, I didnt think that would be possible
Any man with a shred of morals would give up $250m as long as they were not thought of as a rapist.
Simple question to any men reading this thread
"Would you go through the rest of your life being thought of as a rapist for $250m?"
Abso-fucking-lutely
Is the opinion of others so important to you that you’d turn down $250,000,000.00 if it meant people thought you were a rapist? Apparently. Couldn’t be me through.
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Thats what Nate Diaz whispered in his ear...
:D
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you are aware that being frond guilty or not guilty has absolutly nothing to do with the fact you did or didnt do something?
Its simply what a lawyer can convince a jury of
The Crwon prosecution service didnt prosecute because they couldnt reach the threshold of a potential conviction, the civil court the burden of proof is less, hes been found that he did indeed rape her by a jury in a civil case
Hes a rapist
And no, $250m isnt "fuck you money" unless you have no moral compass, thats you all over Brian
Nope that is not what civil juries do you are incorrect and 250 million is fuck you and your entire country money
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Conor seems like he'll be down for some consensual buttocks fucking.
That’s actually Bevo’s lifestyle
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Once he got al those tattoos things started to go wrong. Same with Mike Tyson decades ago. Both are rapists.
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So I guess we'll have to wait a few more years before we get to see Chandler versus McGregor. I'm glad Hand was victorious in court. It's more than just 250k, the ramifications of this could cost him the rest of his career, marriage and respect of his kids. She won more than 250k.
He's notorious alright.
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So I guess we'll have to wait a few more years before we get to see Chandler versus McGregor. I'm glad Hand was victorious in court. It's more than just 250k, the ramifications of this could cost him the rest of his career, marriage and respect of his kids. She won more than 250k.
He's notorious alright.
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Doubtful Trump lost the exact same civil case and just got elected POTUS he then went on to continue to talk shit about the person and get millions in civil penalties for it hasnt seemed to hurt him at all civil is not criminal the public knows the difference
Also they will appeal
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If he really did rape her why is it only $200k?
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If he really did rape her why is it only $200k?
Because its not the USA
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Nope that is not what civil juries do you are incorrect and 250 million is fuck you and your entire country money
Yes, that is exactly what civil courts do, hes now a legally a rapist, a jury found that he had (on the balance of probabilites) raped her.
If money is the answer to the stigma of being a rapist then why did you bother getting all your convictions overturned?
You are just coming across as a rape apologist, its hardly a surprise with your track record with women.
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Yes, that is exactly what civil courts do, hes now a legally a rapist, a jury found that he had (on the balance of probabilites) raped her.
If money is the answer to the stigma of being a rapist then why did you bother getting all your convictions overturned?
You are just coming across as a rape apologist, its hardly a surprise with your track record with women.
Nope sorry you are still missing the basic concept of civil court. I never had any convictions overturned. I had not guilty verdicts expunged. Big difference
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Doubtful Trump lost the exact same civil case and just got elected POTUS he then went on to continue to talk shit about the person and get millions in civil penalties for it hasnt seemed to hurt him at all civil is not criminal the public knows the difference
Also they will appeal
Trump was never found liable for rape, so no its not EXACT SAME civil case.
OJ was found liable for the murder of his wife and Robert Goldman in a civil case, are you suggesting that didnt hurt him?
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Nope sorry you are still missing the basic concept of civil court. I never had any convictions overturned. I had not guilty verdicts expunged. Big difference
would you like me to post all your guilty pleas you were convicted of again?
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Nope sorry you are still missing the basic concept of civil court. I never had any convictions overturned. I had not guilty verdicts expunged. Big difference
brain knows Irish civil law now?
you fucking google bluffer
now why did you leave the infantry early Brian?
why the probation officer?
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Nope sorry you are still missing the basic concept of civil court. I never had any convictions overturned. I had not guilty verdicts expunged. Big difference
I've figured it out now Brian
were the section e questions
- why did you leave the army?
- why did you have a probation officer?
- why were none of your family at your wedding?
- why did you chicken out of fighting josh? twice.
- why does nobody remember you ever having a school fight and you are unable to recall any?
- why can't you recall the serial killlers you frightenened?
- why don't you hang yourself?
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Nope sorry you are still missing the basic concept of civil court. I never had any convictions overturned. I had not guilty verdicts expunged. Big difference
So according to Brian he has only had NOT GUILTY verdicts expunged
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hahaha
lets hear him explain this.
it will be someone made it up or something
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hahaha
lets hear him explain this.
it will be someone made it up or something
he will say it was another Brian Wood Healy Hankins
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the only thing brian has been consistenyl throughout his adult life is a petty criminal
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Incoming report to mod....
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Incoming report to mod....
he has always claimed thats not him, why would he have cause to complain if its not him?
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So according to Brian he has only had NOT GUILTY verdicts expunged
You have incorrect information I have never been found guilty of a felony anywhere in my life. This is why real background investigations check primary sources instead of using random unverified internet searches.
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You have incorrect information
Makes me wonder why you dont contact that site and sue them then
https://www.truthfinder.com
You wanted to sue Ron
You are a fucking liar Brian
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You have incorrect information I have never been found guilty of a felony anywhere in my life. This is why real background investigations check primary sources instead of using random unverified internet searches.
ok brian
if its all bullshit take us through each index offence and tell us what information is incoorect.
over to you (to avoid like fuck)
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Makes you wonder why you dont contact that site and sue them then
https://www.truthfinder.com
You wanted to sue Ron
You are a fucking liar Brian
If I were a convicted Felon how did I vote how do I own firearms how did I pass a federal background check? Simple I am not a convicted felon never have been anywhere at anytime. I also never had a traffic ticket expunged. Nothing you posted contradicts anything I said. Guilty convictions are not eligible for expungement. You have no idea what you are talking about as always.
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You have incorrect information I have never been found guilty of a felony anywhere in my life. This is why real background investigations check primary sources instead of using random unverified internet searches.
thats gramatically correct Brian, they didnt have to "find" anything, you plead guilty.
So you deny them finding you guilty of a felony so by ommitance you admit all the others are you
Thanks Brian, I knew you would get there eventually
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Makes me wonder why you dont contact that site and sue them then
https://www.truthfinder.com
You wanted to sue Ron
You are a fucking liar Brian
What part of primary source do you not understand? That website is not a primary source and does not verify anything just nonsense.
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thats gramatically correct Brian, they didnt have to "find" anything, you plead guilty.
So you deny them finding you guilty of a felony so by ommitance you admit all the others are you
Thanks Brian, I knew you would get there eventually
I have never plead guilty to a felony anywhere at anytime in my life. I am not now nor have I have I ever been a felon again you are an idiot.
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If I were a convicted Felon how did I vote how do I own firearms how did I pass a federal background check? Simple I am not a convicted felon never have been anywhere at anytime. I also never had a traffic ticket expunged. Nothing you posted contradicts anything I said. Guilty convictions are not eligible for expungement. You have no idea what you are talking about as always.
We dont know you voted, we dont know you legally own firearms
Your whole life is one big fucking lie
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If I were a convicted Felon how did I vote how do I own firearms how did I pass a federal background check? Simple I am not a convicted felon never have been anywhere at anytime. I also never had a traffic ticket expunged. Nothing you posted contradicts anything I said. Guilty convictions are not eligible for expungement. You have no idea what you are talking about as always.
What is a "federal" background check?
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What part of primary source do you not understand? That website is not a primary source and does not verify anything just nonsense.
But, but, they are publishing lies online about you
anyone wanting to be a lawyer would surely want that taking down , why dont you get onto it Brian?
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I have never plead guilty to a felony anywhere at anytime in my life. I am not now nor have I have I ever been a felon again you are an idiot.
Did you assault a police officer on 20th August 1997?
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He would get his face caved in quickly.
Not until they check his "ground game".
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Tell me Brian, have you ever travelled outside the USA?
When you first came here you told us you couldnt leave the state and had a probation officer even though you have never been convicted of anything but can you actually leave the USA?
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But, but, they are publishing lies online about you
anyone wanting to be a lawyer would surely want that taking down , why dont you get onto it Brian?
Not worried about it the bar checks primary official sources only it doesn't matter if your website says I killed Jimmy Hoffa
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Tell me Brian, have you ever travelled outside the USA?
When you first came here you told us you couldnt leave the state and had a probation officer even though you have never been convicted of anything but can you actually leave the USA?
I have travelled outside the USA at least a dozen times no issues because again not a felon you fucking moron
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has he ever given an explanation for the police repoprt when they went tohis house?
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has he ever given an explanation for the police repoprt when they went tohis house?
Don't need to explain anything no charges or convictions to explain
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Don't need to explain anything no charges or convictions to explain
But it happened all the same, just like all your other offences found online.
I have told you before Brian, being found guilty or not guilty or even no charges brought has absolutly nothing to do with if you did something or not.
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But it happened all the same, just like all your other offences found online.
I have told you before Brian, being found guilty or not guilty or even no charges brought has absolutly nothing to do with if you did something or not.
Actually, it has everything to do with it as far as the law is concerned.
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Actually, it has everything to do with it as far as the law is concerned.
I know that you dumb fuck
OJ didnt kill his wife according to criminal law
Everyone knows he did it though
Just like we know you did all the things you did regardless of what you claim
You are a rapist apologist
Would you have people believe you were a pedo for $250 million?
after all it doesnt matter what people whisper behind your back does it?
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his dad was known as one for a lot less than 250m
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Don't need to explain anything no charges or convictions to explain
so how do you explain those arrests?
they clearly happened.
you avoid detail dont you brian. please fuck off nobody wants you here. you are as unpopular here as you are with em's friends.
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his dad was known as one for a lot less than 250m
These kind of false pedo allegation are against board rules
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These kind of false pedo allegation are against board rules
go and cry to the mods you little bitch
threatening to kill people is also against board rules brian
suck it up buttercup
like your mum used to to get you hotdogs to eat the cocksmoking boot ugly old hag
typical of brian once hes getting his arse kicked go running to the mods/ police/ feds to make the bigger boys stop
are you tapping out? (again)
are you staying sulking on your stool? (again)
worst tough guy ever
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The Bhank Doctrine
consolidating my posts.
The icing on the cake.
#195
As far as left bicep it has never been injured it actually tapes larger than the right arm it is one photo taken in a bathroom probably needed to turn my wrist or something or flex it more as I am not a good poser
But since you want to nitpick my build do you have a current pic from today? Not sure why you guys are so concerned with my jail time but yes I have served time not just been in a drunk tank. Yes ** I understand due to your current situation your fat everyone has an excuse.
Jail means you have been charged with a felony or convicted of a misdemeanor. Prison means you have been convicted of a Felony. There is a HUGE difference. I have been charged with half a dozen felonies I have only been convicted of misdemeanors
you do realize most misdealers are less than a year and most felonies are more than a year? I am well aware of the cutoff. But I am smart I hire lawyers and get out after a 30 day plea every time. I have served time (more than a weekend) in 3 states and two countries I don't care what you believe. They always overcharge you with a felony and a misdemeanor you should alway plea to the misdemeanor to get the felony dropped. You should always have jail time agreed upon with the DA before going in front of a judge you never leave it to chance. That is the difference between smart people in jail and dumbasses in prison.
But if you want to call me out for not being a bodybuilder post a current pic.
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These kind of false pedo allegation are against board rules
why would you care, you have millions
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Don't need to explain anything no charges or convictions to explain
Jail means you have been charged with a felony or convicted of a misdemeanor. Prison means you have been convicted of a Felony. There is a HUGE difference. I have been charged with half a dozen felonies I have only been convicted of misdemeanors
fucking lying bastard
Nope sorry you are still missing the basic concept of civil court. I never had any convictions overturned. I had not guilty verdicts expunged. Big difference
never had any convictions overturned even though hes only been convicted of misdemeanours
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These kind of false pedo allegation are against board rules
So is threatening other posters, yet here you are. Why?
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Hankins, would you want your wife reading the shit you've written in this thread? Would you tell your wife "yeah but Connor isn't actually a rapist"?
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Hankins, would you want your wife reading the shit you've written in this thread? Would you tell your wife "yeah but Connor isn't actually a rapist"?
its worse than that, he thinks its fine to be a rapist as long as you are rich, "hey who cares what people think if you raped someone as long as you have money"
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its worse than that, he thinks its fine to be a rapist as long as you are rich, "hey who cares what people think if you raped someone as long as you have money"
You keep changing your logic and contradicting yourself there is a difference between people thinking you did something you having actually done it
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You keep changing your logic and contradicting yourself there is a difference between people thinking you did something you having actually done it
but you dont care, you are happy for people to think you are a rapist as long as you are rich
Even if you get found guilty in criminal court people can only "think" you did it, they dont know.
Guilty or not guilty, it doesnt matter, it isnt a gurantee of anything.
People now look at Conors case and can assume he raped her, a Jury listened to the evidence and decided that.
You really fucked up with this Brian
PS, which misdemeanour convictions did you get expunged?
We all lknow that public recoird is you Brian.
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Hankins, would you want your wife reading the shit you've written in this thread? Would you tell your wife "yeah but Connor isn't actually a rapist"?
That ugly semen receptacle wouldn’t understand what guilty meant.
Law degree from a Cracker Jack box.
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Actually, it has everything to do with it as far as the law is concerned.
Brian, being found not guilty does not mean you’re innocent. You can be found not guilty and still committed the crime.
It just means you’re not guilty since it could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that person X committed the crime.
Come on Brian, you’re an up and coming a lawyer!
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Brian, being found not guilty does not mean you’re innocent. You can be found not guilty and still committed the crime.
It just means you’re not guilty since it could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that person X committed the crime.
Come on Brian, you’re an up and coming a lawyer!
Correct.
Also, what 'innocent' person has several police mug shots, arrests and pages of convictions against them?
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Correct.
Also, what 'innocent' person has several police mug shots, arrests and pages of convictions against them?
Just misunderstandings, is all!!
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People forgive and forget some dudes crimes, Tyson for example, the whole world forgives him. Maybe they don't believe the charges or maybe they think he was a mental midget who didn't understand social codes and conduct? :D
With Tyson I think the the the truth is somewhere in the middle. I don't think he raped her, but I think he was probably very unkind to her afterward, and she already was damaged mentally in regards to sexuality.
The thing that changed my mind was a documentary on the case that Greta Van Susteren did years ago that's now become somewhat lost media. It had interviews with her ex boyfriend where he stated she'd get really freaked out after intimacy and felt like she was a whore, and dishonoring her parents and God.
I could see Tyson screwing her, then telling he scram, and that setting her off.
Also Tyson did himself no favors in court, his own original lawyer hated him. And a whole bunch of witnesses were disallowed because they were presented too late. Many on the jury said they probably would've acquitted him if he came off nicer and they heard those witnesses.
https://greensboro.com/man-says-desiree-washington-falsely-accused-him-of-rape/article_4ad4ff80-cfbd-5570-a319-4621d5b013ac.html .
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Last 10 minutes or so is most of the important parts.
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With Tyson I think the the the truth is somewhere in the middle. I don't think he raped her, but I think he was probably very unkind to her afterward, and she already was damaged mentally in regards to sexuality.
The thing that changed my mind was a documentary on the case that Greta Van Susteren did years ago that's now become somewhat lost media. It had interviews with her ex boyfriend where he stated she'd get really freaked out after intimacy and felt like she was a whore, and dishonoring her parents and God.
I could see Tyson screwing her, then telling he scram, and that setting her off.
Also Tyson did himself no favors in court, his own original lawyer hated him. And a whole bunch of witnesses were disallowed because they were presented too late. Many on the jury said they probably would've acquitted him if he came off nicer and they heard those witnesses.
https://greensboro.com/man-says-desiree-washington-falsely-accused-him-of-rape/article_4ad4ff80-cfbd-5570-a319-4621d5b013ac.html .
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Last 10 minutes or so is most of the important parts.
I remember Tyson saying he deserved to go to jail - he didn't do that one but he implied he did similar things in the past.
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I remember Tyson saying he deserved to go to jail - he didn't do that one but he implied he did similar things in the past.
If I remember right he implied he had killed someone before.
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With Tyson I think the the the truth is somewhere in the middle. I don't think he raped her, but I think he was probably very unkind to her afterward, and she already was damaged mentally in regards to sexuality.
The thing that changed my mind was a documentary on the case that Greta Van Susteren did years ago that's now become somewhat lost media. It had interviews with her ex boyfriend where he stated she'd get really freaked out after intimacy and felt like she was a whore, and dishonoring her parents and God.
I could see Tyson screwing her, then telling he scram, and that setting her off.
He should have fucked her till she loved him
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First and foremost pedophiles should be shot. However what you are describing is absolutely not pedophilia
Wouldn't it be nice if everyone learned the definitions of all the big buzz words they wanted to use?
Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2] Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[4] A person must be at least 16 years old, and at least five years older than the prepubescent child, for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia.[4][5]
Soooooo Brian, you have no problem being found guilty of being a pedo for $250mil. Should Em shoot you based on this?
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Soooooo Brian, you have no problem being found guilty of being a pedo for $250mil. Should Em shoot you based on this?
she would need a high powered sniper rifle, shes not at home anymore
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she would need a high powered sniper rifle, shes not at home anymore
With the size of his melon, someone wouldn't have to be all that great of a shot
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My probation officer is actually kind of cool always telling me stories about criminals he had to fight when they resisted arrest. I am a pacifist compared to him. He would understand.
I live in NC and my probation officer says I can meet you anywhere in state hell I will pay for your damn gas to get here
I don't think SC has ever had to say thing like this.
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I don't think SC has ever had to say thing like this.
Which crimes did bhank commit to need a probation officer?
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Which crimes did bhank commit to need a probation officer?
he had multiple arrests charges in 2021, could be anything
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Which crimes did bhank commit to need a probation officer?
Incoming :
"I have gone over this 10,000 times. I don't have time to sit here and argue all day with you haters. You're all just mad that I am in shape and you are slobs"
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I love how he even has a badass 'harder than you' probation officer.
absolute bullshit
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Brian did you have a probation officer or was it a lie?
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Which crimes did bhank commit to need a probation officer?
This list could rival his ailments list... I'll start:
1. Crimes against humanity for the "who wore it better" thong picture
2. Illegally owning an exotic feline
3. Illegal use of a controlled substance from his maid
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Brian did you have a probation officer or was it a lie?
If he did have a probation officer that would be admitting he was convicted of a crime, if he didn't have one, then he lied. Either way he'll avoid this like his wife avoids living with him. :D
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If he did have a probation officer that would be admitting he was convicted of a crime, if he didn't have one, then he lied. Either way he'll avoid this like his wife avoids living with him. :D
however he skins it its another lie
or a misremember which is a lie by any other name
he will run away for a few hours but lets keep him on the run eh!
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With Tyson I think the the the truth is somewhere in the middle. I don't think he raped her, but I think he was probably very unkind to her afterward, and she already was damaged mentally in regards to sexuality.
The thing that changed my mind was a documentary on the case that Greta Van Susteren did years ago that's now become somewhat lost media. It had interviews with her ex boyfriend where he stated she'd get really freaked out after intimacy and felt like she was a whore, and dishonoring her parents and God.
I could see Tyson screwing her, then telling he scram, and that setting her off.
Also Tyson did himself no favors in court, his own original lawyer hated him. And a whole bunch of witnesses were disallowed because they were presented too late. Many on the jury said they probably would've acquitted him if he came off nicer and they heard those witnesses.
https://greensboro.com/man-says-desiree-washington-falsely-accused-him-of-rape/article_4ad4ff80-cfbd-5570-a319-4621d5b013ac.html .
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Last 10 minutes or so is most of the important parts.
Okay yes, everyone has to make up their own minds on matters. My own immediate instinct would be that Tyson could be a type of person who is forceful enough with a woman to a "not ok" degree. Then there are those who think all women should be believed unless really proven otherwise. And in other countries a wife cannot be raped and I saw many say the fact the woman went into Mike's room makes it not rape no matter what happened there. In Muslim countries a woman is blamed for a rape, the man acted on normal instincts.
But here I was surprised posters said McGregor definitely is a rapist now, the sentence is enough to tell he's guilty. But I though he was practically royalty who would save Ireland and peopl forgive such people of little 'indiscretions" because normal morality doesn't apply to them. Look at Trump and Gaetz, Trump obviously didn't give a shit about any possible sexual crimes Gaetz might have committed, he wanted Gaetz no matter what but he couldn't do it in the end.
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Okay yes, everyone has to make up their own minds on matters. My own immediate instinct would be that Tyson could be a type of person who is forceful enough with a woman to a "not ok" degree. Then there are those who think all women should be believed unless really proven otherwise. And in other countries a wife cannot be raped and I saw many say the fact the woman went into Mike's room makes it not rape no matter what happened there. In Muslim countries a woman is blamed for a rape, the man acted on normal instincts.
But here I was surprised posters said McGregor definitely is a rapist now, the sentence is enough to tell he's guilty. But I though he was practically royalty who would save Ireland and peopl forgive such people of little 'indiscretions" because normal morality doesn't apply to them. Look at Trump and Gaetz, Trump obviously didn't give a shit about any possible sexual crimes Gaetz might have committed, he wanted Gaetz no matter what but he couldn't do it in the end.
I dont think anyone has....the whole point was that people will now think he is, its never definite, anyone who thinks that after a trial a guilty verdict means someones done it isnt a critical thinker
PS, I dont think for a single second Lucy Letby killed those babies.
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Okay yes, everyone has to make up their own minds on matters. My own immediate instinct would be that Tyson could be a type of person who is forceful enough with a woman to a "not ok" degree. Then there are those who think all women should be believed unless really proven otherwise. And in other countries a wife cannot be raped and I saw many say the fact the woman went into Mike's room makes it not rape no matter what happened there. In Muslim countries a woman is blamed for a rape, the man acted on normal instincts.
But here I was surprised posters said McGregor definitely is a rapist now, the sentence is enough to tell he's guilty. But I though he was practically royalty who would save Ireland and peopl forgive such people of little 'indiscretions" because normal morality doesn't apply to them. Look at Trump and Gaetz, Trump obviously didn't give a shit about any possible sexual crimes Gaetz might have committed, he wanted Gaetz no matter what but he couldn't do it in the end.
we know Muslims love rape but was Mike in a Muslim Land at the time of the rape & was he actually a "Muslim" convert then?
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in fairness all organised religion tends to blind eye rape and abuse doesn't it?
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in fairness all organised religion tends to blind eye rape and abuse doesn't it?
some more than others ;)
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Catholic Church used to lead the way but the C of E have had a good go at it of late!
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But here I was surprised posters said McGregor definitely is a rapist now, the sentence is enough to tell he's guilty. But I though he was practically royalty who would save Ireland and peopl forgive such people of little 'indiscretions" because normal morality doesn't apply to them.
Well another thing in Tyson's favor that McGregor doesn't have is 20+ years of career and personality rehab. When Tyson came out in the mid-90's, a lot of people hated him, and probably wouldn't have minded if he got left inside. Also Mike has been in the public eye for 3/4ers of his life so you can look back on the trajectory better -
Abused kid, who grows up into an an abused and flawed man, who now is struggling to redeem himself. People love that underdog story. Mike also has a far more likeable personality than McGregor.
McGregor seemed to be a cunt right from the start. Mike has always been more interesting from the human side.
Who knows, give McGregor 20-30 years to redeem himself, and maybe he comes out like Mike.
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Well another thing in Tyson's favor that McGregor doesn't have is 20+ years of career and personality rehab. When Tyson came out in the mid-90's, a lot of people hated him, and probably wouldn't have minded if he got left inside. Also Mike has been in the public eye for 3/4ers of his life so you can look back on the trajectory better -
Abused kid, who grows up into an an abused and flawed man, who now is struggling to redeem himself. People love that underdog story. Mike also has a far more likeable personality than McGregor.
McGregor seemed to be a cunt right from the start. Mike has always been more interesting from the human side.
Who knows, give McGregor 20-30 years to redeem himself, and maybe he comes out like Mike.
As usual you make some good points
we know Muslims love rape but was Mike in a Muslim Land at the time of the rape & was he actually a "Muslim" convert then?
I didn't even consider Mike converted later on, just showing how morality differs somewhat between people, and certainly many many said the woman only had herself to blame for going to Mike's room because only one thing would happen there and it should be understood by both parties. I don't know if Islam actually allows for forceful intercourse in marriage as a matter of fact, probably not, but like 38 said many religions allow what the civilised world now consider abuse. The bible basically says the wife owes the husband sex, I forget the exact phrasing now, and this could be interpreted in different ways.
I dont think anyone has....the whole point was that people will now think he is, its never definite, anyone who thinks that after a trial a guilty verdict means someones done it isnt a critical thinker
PS, I dont think for a single second Lucy Letby killed those babies.
Yes, good point. A sentence is one thing and then there is the court of public opinion. Fitness industry related: there's this guy who hunts convicted sex criminals in the fitness industry on IG and rallies people to cancel them completely and shut out from IG, fired from jobs. Personally I couldn't do it because I know a sentence doesn't always prove guilt. Then there is the, to my mind, ambiguity of certain crimes. People have different opinions but I don't necessarily see a 20 year old woman having sex with a 17 year old boy as an irredeemable pedo that should be fed into a woodchipper. Recently I saw a father being sentenced in a similar situation because he abetted the crime involving his son, and sure, many fathers said they would only high five the son, even if he was 15. I do see a moral difference between girls and boys in these situations but some don't agree and would kill the adult woman.
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Should go to prison. See how he'd do against complete remorseless psychopaths with nothing to lose
He would fuck them up. He's an elite trained professional. Are you dumb?
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He would fuck them up. He's an elite trained professional. Are you dumb?
No ones beyond getting fucked up in prison, do you think they are going to arrange a fight with him and "touch gloves"?
They will just shank him in the shower or on the yard when hes not looking
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I'm surprised he was found liable with some of the evidence presented. She goes to the hotel room, 2am, CCTV shows her kissing Connor and his buddy up and down. She has sex with both of them with the door open and her girl co worker in the other room. Texted her boyfriend after saying everything was fine. Goes to the hospital the next morning and sets up a rape case. I'm not convinced she was raped.
In my lifetime I have witnessed a couple of women file false rape allegations against guys, and admit to it later. Nothing happened to them. Plenty of guys get convinced of rape with no evidence in criminal court. Here's an example.
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He would fuck them up. He's an elite trained professional. Are you dumb?
Lol
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I'm surprised he was found liable with some of the evidence presented. She goes to the hotel room, 2am, CCTV shows her kissing Connor and his buddy up and down. She has sex with both of them with the door open and her girl co worker in the other room. Texted her boyfriend after saying everything was fine. Goes to the hospital the next morning and sets up a rape case. I'm not convinced she was raped.
Its a long but comprehensive read :
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1124/1482676-mcgregor-case/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1124/1482676-mcgregor-case/)
It seems Conor McGregor is not happy with the verdict of the jury in the civil case taken against him by Nikita Hand.
On the night the jury delivered its decision, he posted on X that he would be appealing. He suggested to his almost 11 million followers, on that platform, that a "modest" award was given for "assault". This was despite the context of the previous two and a half weeks, and despite Mr Justice Alexander Owens telling the jurors repeatedly that the assault they were deliberating about was rape. The judge told the jurors in the civil action that "rape is a form of assault" and if they found in Ms Hand's favour they would have to award substantial damages as "rape is a very serious matter".
Mr McGregor went on in his post to point out that aggravated or exemplary damages were not awarded by the jury. The post was deleted some time later.
By lunchtime on the following day, his mood seemed to have changed. He posted that it was "Deplorable what they done" and disparaged Ms Hand. He spoke about his friend James Lawrence, saying Mr Lawrence had been vindicated.
He described the High Court as "a court of feeling and opinion, brainwashed into people via the mainstream media. Not of fact!" And he said "we are not done yet. Not by a long shot." He repeated "appeal! Appeal! Appeal!"
Mr McGregor also reposted a lengthy post by Mr Lawrence on Instagram in which his friend also criticised Ms Hand.
After a number of hours all these posts, too, had been deleted by Mr McGregor.
Sources suggest that Mr McGregor, who arrived at court on the last day with his partner, Dee Devlin, in a chauffeur-driven Rolls Royce, was not expecting to lose this case.
Other sources say there was an effort at mediation early on in proceedings. But it appears the action did not come close at any stage to settling.
While the damages awarded have been described as being on the low side, another legal source suggested this might make the award "unappealable" as appeals in civil actions are often based on a claim that the damages are excessive.
Reaction of the jury
In his social media posts, Mr McGregor did not address what even his own lawyers identified as a huge problem for him in this case - the way his testimony was presented to the jury by him, and perceived by them.
Predicting what a jury is thinking or what jurors are going to do is a fool’s game. That doesn't stop journalists and lawyers from engaging in it - analysing body language and gestures to try to get an indication what the verdict will be. The amateur psychological analysis is often wrong. Not in this case.
As Mr McGregor gave his evidence in courtroom 24, it was hard not to feel exactly what was going on in the jury’s minds.
There were no obvious giveaway glances or gestures - no one said or did anything - but the feeling of contempt and horror at the things Mr McGregor was saying and the way he was saying them, radiated from the jury box where the eight women and four men sat.
It bubbled to the surface when Mr McGregor’s cross-examination began and his "mask slipped".
Under questioning from Ms Hand’s barrister, John Gordon, about why he hadn't given his phone to gardaí, Mr McGregor insisted he wanted "everything out there". Raising his voice, he said that included a "statement from the taxi driver" that she was "sucking his f*cking d*ck in the back of the car".
As he said it, there was very audible gasp in court from the direction of the jury box. The judge told Mr McGregor to restrain his comments and the trial moved on but it was a moment that was difficult to forget. The judge later reminded the jury that they had to disregard Mr McGregor’s allegation that Ms Hand engaged in "lewd behaviour" as there was "absolutely no evidence for it".
Closing speech
Mr McGregor’s lawyers were acutely aware of the effect he had on the jury.
In his skilful closing speech, senior counsel, Remy Farrell devoted considerable time to the jury’s feelings about his client, telling them he wanted to be "upfront" about the issue.
He said they may all loathe his client for all he knew. And he pointed out instances in Mr McGregor’s evidence which had been noticed by his own legal team.
Mr Farrell referred to an intake of breath from the jury when Mr McGregor referred to Ms Hand and her friend, Danielle Kealey, as "two lovely ladies", his hand gesture when he referred to the "slightly provocative" picture Ms Hand had sent him via a DM on Instagram, and his description of her as "somewhat bombastic" when she got into his car on the morning of Sunday 9 December 2018.
Mr McGregor’s descriptions of the "vigorous" "athletic" sex he claimed he had with Ms Hand, were accompanied by numerous gestures to demonstrate what he said were the "multitude of positions" they engaged in.
Mr Farrell told the jury they may also be "unimpressed" with a man who leaves the family home on a Saturday night, goes into town and ends up drinking with women in hotel penthouses.
Partners and lies
The double standards were hard to miss for the jury and for everyone else observing in the packed, uncomfortable court room.
Ms Hand was criticised by Mr McGregor and by his friend Mr Lawrence during their evidence for the lies she told her boyfriend about what she was doing on 9 December 2018. She was "well able" to lie to her boyfriend "in front of me," Mr Lawrence said about a text she sent her partner from the basement of the Beacon Hotel.
Mr Lawrence had gone home in the early hours of 9 December, after a night’s clubbing with Mr McGregor. He was in bed with his partner when Mr McGregor arrived back at his house in his car with Ms Hand and Ms Kealey a couple of hours later. Mr McGregor told the court he had "two boisterous ladies full of energy" in the car with him and he "needed to level it out and make it a party." "That’s what they wished for," he said.
Mr Lawrence eventually got into the car with Mr McGregor and the women, not even bothering to put on a pair of shoes. When he left the Beacon Hotel in a taxi around twelve hours later - after, according to his own account, having had sex five times with two different women, the court heard he asked the taxi driver to drop him in Crumlin village and not at his home because his partner would be there.
Mr McGregor also returned to his own partner and their children in their Kildare home, after spending the previous night and day drinking, taking cocaine and according to his own evidence, having unprotected sex twice with a woman he barely knew in a hotel room.
Mr McGregor is a global celebrity with more than 47 million followers on Instagram. He frequently shares pictures of his partner, and their children, many taken by his personal photographer, David Fogarty who gave evidence on his behalf during the trial. On Halloween, shortly before the trial began, he shared a slew of pictures of the family trick or treating.
On the weekend before it was expected he would give evidence himself, he shared a carousel of photographs of a family holiday in Warrenpoint in Co Down. And on the morning the judge was expected to finish his summing up and send the jury out to begin deliberating, he posted a picture of him and a young child, captioned "LOVE OF MY LIFE, MY DAUGHTER". That post was subsequently deleted.
There was only one brief mention of his long-term fiancée and the mother of his children in the trial. Speaking about how he first became friendly with Mr Lawrence, Mr McGregor said he would play the video game Call of Duty with Mr Lawrence at his house while waiting for "Dee" to finish work at the Children’s Hospital in Crumlin.
CCTV evidence v medical evidence
Mr McGregor and Mr Lawrence frequently referred to the CCTV footage shown to the court of Ms Hand in the lift and in the car park of the Beacon Hotel.
They said her demeanour and behaviour in the footage, did not match with her allegation of being brutally raped a few hours previously. Ms Hand was upset as she watched it, saying it showed someone who was "very, very drunk", and she did not remember any of it.
The response of both men to the medical evidence in the case was to say that they did not see any severe bruising on Ms Hand’s body. Both men also said she did not have a tampon in when they had sex with her. Mr McGregor said he would not have had sex with Ms Hand if she was on her period or if she had a tampon in.
But the tampon was there and was discussed by the first, and the last witnesses in the case. The prolonged discussions by male doctors and male barristers about tampons and whether or not a woman would notice if she had a tampon in during sex, were uncomfortable to listen to, but the evidence on the matter was crucial.
The first witness, Dr Daniel Kane, who examined Ms Hand at the Rotunda Hospital, said there was a tampon "wedged" so far into the top of Ms Hand’s vagina that he had to use a type of forceps to remove it. He said he had seen many women who had a tampon retained because they had forgotten about it. But, he said, he had conducted 340 examinations of women and this was the first time he found a tampon still inside a woman after sexual intercourse.
The last witness was also a doctor - a forensic physician who worked part time as a GP. Dr Basil John Farnan was asked by Mr Farrell if female patients ever asked if they could have sex with a tampon in. Dr Farnan said it would be a "peculiar" question but he had encountered people who had done it and hadn't noticed at the time.
There was some discussion about whether women who had had a child would be less likely to notice if they had left a tampon in before having sex than women who had not had children. Dr Farnan said a tampon might be pushed up by sexual intercourse or be up there anyway.
Nikita Hand’s barrister, Ray Boland, suggested that no one asked such a question "because no one would want to have sex with a tampon in?" Dr Farnan said he couldn't comment on that.
In his closing speech, Mr Farrell referred only briefly to the tampon suggesting that Ms Hand did not seem to be in discomfort in the CCTV footage taken on the evening of 9 December, compared with her discomfort in footage taken from the ambulance on the morning of 10 December.
The jury also had independent evidence of Ms Hand’s injuries. Dr Kane described her injuries, including a possible internal tear, as "moderate to severe". An experienced paramedic, Eithne Scully, said she had not seen a person so badly bruised "in a long time".
In a case described by Mr Justice Owens as coming down to "truth and lies", the medical evidence formed part of the "islands of fact" - or pieces of objective evidence that the jury could cling on to.
Consent
The judge also warned the jurors to come to their decision on a sound evidential basis and not engage in "lazy assumptions" or "victim blaming".
Judge Owens said consensual sexual activity is where both sides are in "free and voluntary engagement."
He said submission was not consent, and it was not necessary to prove a person resisted, tried to run away or raise the alarm. He added that a person could freeze.
The judge told the jury that people may have consensual sex but he said it was different when someone was so intoxicated that they could not exercise free and voluntary will and "may simply be so out of it they have no clear idea as to what they are about."
He told them that they should be cautious about they think someone who is a victim of sexual assault should have done. And he said it was his observation that they may respond to an event in ways that may seem irrational.
He pointed out that wearing certain clothes on Instagram was not an invitation. "Of course men might be attracted to women," he said "but if they want to take it further it requires consent."
"The fact that a woman engages in risky activity like drinking or taking drugs does not mean they are up for sex.
"While excessive alcohol can lead to disinhibition you cannot engage in a presumption that the women who engage in this behaviour are promiscuous."
He also told them they could conclude that excessive alcohol affected good judgement and memory and could lead to patchy and fragmented memory of the night before.
The final hours
On the final day of the trial, as the jury deliberated, many of the women in Mr McGregor’s life appeared by his side for the first time.
During the proceedings, Mr McGregor usually arrived at the Chancery Street court on foot, having been dropped off at the other side of the Four Courts Complex. But on Friday, a large chauffeur-driven Rolls Royce stopped in the middle of the street. Mr McGregor exited the car then walked around to open the door for his fiancée. They walked quickly, hand in hand, through the photographers and cameramen to court.
In the courtroom to greet them were Mr McGregor’s mother Margaret and his sister Aoife, as well as his brother-in-law Terry Kavanagh, who is married to another sister, Erin. Mr McGregor’s father Tony was there, as he had been for every day of the trial. They were accompanied by other friends and supporters.
Ms Devlin and Mr McGregor’s mother sat either side of him as he waited for the verdict to be delivered. Ms Devlin held on to his left arm comforting him. His mother held his right arm. He appeared to be stressed and was breathing deeply.
Mr McGregor put his head in his hands when the verdict was announced. But there was near silence in court. The judge had sternly warned all those present to remain calm. "I want no scenes," he said, "anyone who makes a scene will find themselves in jail."
He and his supporters seemed stunned. Some of those with him stared over at Ms Hand’s group on the other side of the small courtroom as she cried and hugged her lawyers, her partner and her mother. James Lawrence shook his friend’s hand and squeezed his shoulders. Then Mr McGregor gave a signal to those with him, and he and his entourage filed out of court.
Mr McGregor and Ms Devlin walked out again holding hands, into a huge scrum of national and international journalists. He ignored repeated questions, some of which were being broadcast live, about the jury’s verdict and whether or not he would apologise to Ms Hand. His father and a security guard cleared journalists out of the way to allow him to get back to his Rolls Royce and be driven off.
Ms Hand emerged a short time later to express her gratitude to all those who had helped her, and her relief at the verdict. She urged other victims of sexual violence to "speak up" no matter how afraid they might be and to keep fighting for justice.
After the trial, it could be reported that Ms Hand's lawyers told the judge, before the jury was sworn in, that she had to leave her home in June due to a break in by masked intruders during which her boyfriend was stabbed. Her lawyers told the court that they were not claiming Mr McGregor had anything to do with the incident but they said it "arose from supporters" of Mr McGregor. The judge had ruled this evidence was not relevant and could not be introduced in this action.
Ms Hand’s ordeal is not yet at an end. A hearing to determine who should pay the costs of the two and a half week long trial, estimated at "well over" €1 million, is due to take place this week.
Mr McGregor’s and Mr Lawrence’s posts on social media since the verdict are likely to be brought to the attention of Mr Justice Owens at that stage.
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and Brian hankins supports this
horrible man Brian should never be allowed near his ex wifes daughters
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Not followed this case - they both sound as bad as each other.
She sobered up & had to come up with story - she has a duty of care
To look after herself - she got utterly drunk & behaved like a whore
& then regretted it.
As Connor he's just a scumbag of a man.
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I'm surprised he was found liable with some of the evidence presented. She goes to the hotel room, 2am, CCTV shows her kissing Connor and his buddy up and down. She has sex with both of them with the door open and her girl co worker in the other room. Texted her boyfriend after saying everything was fine. Goes to the hospital the next morning and sets up a rape case. I'm not convinced she was raped.
In my lifetime I have witnessed a couple of women file false rape allegations against guys, and admit to it later. Nothing happened to them. Plenty of guys get convinced of rape with no evidence in criminal court. Here's an example.
The sad thing is that these women rarely are punished.
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I'm surprised he was found liable with some of the evidence presented. She goes to the hotel room, 2am, CCTV shows her kissing Connor and his buddy up and down. She has sex with both of them with the door open and her girl co worker in the other room. Texted her boyfriend after saying everything was fine. Goes to the hospital the next morning and sets up a rape case. I'm not convinced she was raped.
In my lifetime I have witnessed a couple of women file false rape allegations against guys, and admit to it later. Nothing happened to them. Plenty of guys get convinced of rape with no evidence in criminal court. Here's an example.
Same with Tyson. She agree's on taking a bath with him, but next morning she claims rape.
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Its real simple gold digger whores sue rich men they had sex with for Rape to get money. These men typically cheated on their wives and the women are expecting a big settlement payout. They don't bring criminal charges because there is not enough evidence for a conviction, but they know they can bring civil charges with no evidence and get paid. Everyone with a brain has seen this played out a million time with male celebrities. No one with a brain considers these civil assault charges against rich men legit. Kobe, Tyson, Trump, Mcgreggor all innocent all slept with willing women who then wanted to get paid. None of them other than Tyson charged criminally because there is no evidence.
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Its real simple gold digger whores sue rich men they had sex with for Rape to get money. These men typically cheated on their wives and the women are expecting a big settlement payout. They don't bring criminal charges because there is not enough evidence for a conviction, but they know they can bring civil charges with no evidence and get paid. Everyone with a brain has seen this played out a million time with male celebrities. No one with a brain considers these civil assault charges against rich men legit. Kobe, Tyson, Trump, Mcgreggor all innocent all slept with willing women who then wanted to get paid. None of them other than Tyson charged criminally because there is no evidence.
Ems just taken half of yours and you didnt lay a finger on her
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Absolutely shocking victim-shaming from Wandering Hands Wood Healy. Imagine thinking that because a woman gets drunk and makes silly decisions, she has no right to withdraw her consent! I suppose all of Bill Cosby's victims were just gold diggers, too? Lord have mercy. As the victim of a brutal raping myself, I find these comments highly distasteful. My attacker was never convicted and she's still out there roaming the streets—possibly with a horse-cocked, neurodivergent child.
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Its real simple gold digger whores sue rich men they had sex with for Rape to get money. These men typically cheated on their wives and the women are expecting a big settlement payout. They don't bring criminal charges because there is not enough evidence for a conviction, but they know they can bring civil charges with no evidence and get paid. Everyone with a brain has seen this played out a million time with male celebrities. No one with a brain considers these civil assault charges against rich men legit. Kobe, Tyson, Trump, Mcgreggor all innocent all slept with willing women who then wanted to get paid. None of them other than Tyson charged criminally because there is no evidence.
Says the woman beater. Of course you would disagree with the verdict. You beat the fuck out of your late ex-wife. Absolute scumbag.
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Absolutely shocking victim-shaming from Wandering Hands Wood Healy. Imagine thinking that because a woman gets drunk and makes silly decisions, she has no right to withdraw her consent! I suppose all of Bill Cosby's victims were just gold diggers, too? Lord have mercy. As the victim of a brutal raping myself, I find these comments highly distasteful. My attacker was never convicted and she's still out there roaming the streets—possibly with a horse-cocked, neurodivergent child.
If they were victims they would file criminal charges
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If they were victims they would file criminal charges
Most do but the bruden of proof to secure a conviction in criminal court isnt reached so the Crown Prosecution services wont take the case forward.
Dont you know anything?
Fucks sake , the guy thinks hes going to become a fucking lawyer
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Most do but the bruden of proof to secure a conviction in criminal court isnt reached so the Crown Prosecution services wont take the case forward.
Dont you know anything?
Fucks sake , the guy thinks hes going to become a fucking lawyer
Right they dont have any evidence because they are lying gold diggers hence they did not file criminal charges thanks for proving my point
Its like you telling me the most basic and confused explanation for the 10th time that you still dont understand the implications of like you are telling me something. Tell me again how I can put a weight under a barbell like I never thought of that either you fucking moron
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Right they dont have any evidence because they are lying gold diggers hence they did not file criminal charges thanks for proving my point
Its like you telling me the most basic and confused explanation for the 10th time that you still dont understand the implications of like you are telling me something. Tell me again how I can put a weight under a barbell like I never thought of that either you fucking moron
Brian, let me explain how it works, the complainant goes to the police, the police put the case to the CPS, the CPS then decide to take the case forward.
The police files the charges to the CPS, the CPS decides if they have. a reasonable chance of conviction, if not they drop the case.
Then the complainant can go to a civil court where the burden of proof is less
You have had charges filed against you many times, you should be familiar with the process
Oh and seeing as you brought it up the barbell incident was fucking laughable
In 20 years you hadnt worked out that if you slightly raise the weight off the floor its easier to slide plates on
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Brian, let me explain how it works, the complainant goes to the police, the police put the case to the CPS, the CPS then decide to take the case forward.
The police files the charges to the CPS, the CPS decides if they have. a reasonable chance of conviction, if not they drop the case.
Then the complainant can go to a civil court where the burden of proof is less
You have had charges filed against you many times, you should be familiar with the process
Oh and seeing as you brought it up the barbell incident was fucking laughable
In 20 years you hadnt worked out that if you slightly raise the weight off the floor its easier to slide plates on
Again how does your retard brain think you can explain anything to me in this life???? How the fuck you think you are ever telling me something I don't already know and understand better than you is beyond me.
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Again how does your retard brain think you can explain anything to me in this life???? How the fuck you think you are ever telling me something I don't already know and understand better than you is beyond me.
Is that it?
Is that all you have?
No rebuttal, nothing to counter the argument?
Stick to outright lying, you have more practice at that
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Its real simple gold digger whores sue rich men they had sex with for Rape to get money. These men typically cheated on their wives and the women are expecting a big settlement payout. They don't bring criminal charges because there is not enough evidence for a conviction, but they know they can bring civil charges with no evidence and get paid. Everyone with a brain has seen this played out a million time with male celebrities. No one with a brain considers these civil assault charges against rich men legit. Kobe, Tyson, Trump, Mcgreggor all innocent all slept with willing women who then wanted to get paid. None of them other than Tyson charged criminally because there is no evidence.
Brian
a whore by definition is getting paid to have sex
you are a fucking moron
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Right they dont have any evidence because they are lying gold diggers hence they did not file criminal charges thanks for proving my point
Its like you telling me the most basic and confused explanation for the 10th time that you still dont understand the implications of like you are telling me something. Tell me again how I can put a weight under a barbell like I never thought of that either you fucking moron
not how it works moron
the case is referred tot he CPS they then have the say on if it proceeds
jimmy Savile the massive paedophile was passed over for prosecution many times but was unmasked as a huge paedophile you fucking prick
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There seems to be quite a pattern of the little coke sniffing pervert with regards to sexual abuse:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14122927/conor-mcgregor-rape-case-floodgates-civil-claims-mma-fighter-court-dublin.html
Seems to be on gear:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR6wU5k1PJm7GX1VdHDgiCHibzs9UBYbZDghQ&s)
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There seems to be quite a pattern of the little coke sniffing pervert with regards to sexual abuse:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14122927/conor-mcgregor-rape-case-floodgates-civil-claims-mma-fighter-court-dublin.html
Its OK, Brian says theres no evidence and after all he has $250 million so why would he care
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so in Brians world if you Gert arrested but there is insufficient evidence to charge you , you are innocent of the crime.
this accounts for a lot of his not going forward. he's definitely a woman beating piece of shit
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so in Brians world if you Gert arrested but there is insufficient evidence to charge you , you are innocent of the crime.
this accounts for a lot of his not going forward. he's definitely a woman beating piece of shit
thats been his argument from day one
"Brian, you asaulted and abused your ex girlfriend"
"I have never been convicted of hitting a woman"
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exactly mate
he's a prick of the lowest order
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Ems just taken half of yours and you didnt lay a finger on her
Maybe that's why she took half ???
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Again how does your retard brain think you can explain anything to me in this life???? How the fuck you think you are ever telling me something I don't already know and understand better than you is beyond me.
Simple
1) Gallon of blood and bile - wrong, I proved you wrong
2) Your alleged cachexia, anorexia, and agoraphobia. - wrong, you don't have either. You don't even understand how serious cachexia is (never once using the term until I called it out), you eating your 1,000's of calories...something an anorexic would never do, and then agoraphobia...never ONCE saying how you feared not being able to get out of someplace you are going. Self diagnosed attention whoring bullshit. AT BEST you have social anxiety disorder.
3) The bullshit with your knees saying "any doctor would say this person isn't walking". Once again your feeble attempt at making yourself out to be something more than what you are.
I've schooled you in so many things I should start charging you. You just keep getting mad and angry that I peel back the current on ol' wizard of oz Brian
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brian is a compulsive liar and fantasist nothing he says can betaken as truth. nothing.
he's on the ropes again but is reading every post as hes a lunatic. but notone that could do anyone any harm just a sad friendless lying coward.
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Simple
1) Gallon of blood and bile - wrong, I proved you wrong
2) Your alleged cachexia, anorexia, and agoraphobia. - wrong, you don't have either. You don't even understand how serious cachexia is (never once using the term until I called it out), you eating your 1,000's of calories...something an anorexic would never do, and then agoraphobia...never ONCE saying how you feared not being able to get out of someplace you are going. Self diagnosed attention whoring bullshit. AT BEST you have social anxiety disorder.
3) The bullshit with your knees saying "any doctor would say this person isn't walking". Once again your feeble attempt at making yourself out to be something more than what you are.
I've schooled you in so many things I should start charging you. You just keep getting mad and angry that I peel back the current on ol' wizard of oz Brian
or cowardice,
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Again how does your retard brain think you can explain anything to me in this life???? How the fuck you think you are ever telling me something I don't already know and understand better than you is beyond me.
(https://y.yarn.co/fe9c1768-7edd-45c8-a716-200a60547567_text.gif)
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There seems to be quite a pattern of the little coke sniffing pervert with regards to sexual abuse:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14122927/conor-mcgregor-rape-case-floodgates-civil-claims-mma-fighter-court-dublin.html
Seems to be on gear:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR6wU5k1PJm7GX1VdHDgiCHibzs9UBYbZDghQ&s)
You cant tell that last pic s shopped?
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So, it's my fault you are a bunch of simpletons who don't understand nuance?
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yes brian thats corrrect you are right everyone else is wrong you whining little bitch.
HGH from the age of 28 eh?
17 years
hahahahahahaha
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yes brian thats corrrect you are right everyone else is wrong you whining little bitch.
HGH from the age of 28 eh?
17 years
hahahahahahaha
I do not recall having access to HGH at 28. The only thing I recall having exp with at that time was GRHP6 a HGH inducing peptide. I believe that would be what I was referencing but would have to look further to be sure and honestly don't care to bother. But whatever certainly did not stay on it for 20 years. Would love to have been on HGH the last 20 years but wasnt
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hahahaha
semhanktics
'I don't recall'
bullshit
you are hanged by your own words dickhead.
17 years on HGH and you. look like shit on stage
you dared have a go at jeff.
junkie who does curls. thats it.
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He comes from a crminal family, so I gues rape is completely business as usual to him:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14127227/conor-mcgregor-link-kinahan-cartel-organised-crime.html
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He comes from a crminal family, so I gues rape is completely business as usual to him:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14127227/conor-mcgregor-link-kinahan-cartel-organised-crime.html
Aren't all Irish. ;D
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He comes from a crminal family, so I gues rape is completely business as usual to him:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14127227/conor-mcgregor-link-kinahan-cartel-organised-crime.html
He has a good wife, standing by his side in this ordeal.