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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: joswift on January 19, 2025, 06:49:38 AM
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OK guys, thoughts please
I have been arguing on FB with several people over hypertrophy v hyperplasia
This photo started it
(https://scontent-man2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/473075102_636979645563291_201927294779959207_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=gQLa674_T6kQ7kNvgHKosQe&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-man2-1.xx&_nc_gid=AS-t_pSkPH_nZSMU0VdhSpn&oh=00_AYAOKxRVGWWljXFUTggPxxiEatYt80Tt-ZdjW4m5mixKyw&oe=6792D0A2)
my point is that he has no "ADDITIONAL" muscle TISSUE form the firts pic to the second.
He had made the muscles larger and hes gotten fatter
Everyone seems to believe that hes adding NEW MUSCLE to his frame whe in fact all hes doing is expanding the muscles he has
Hypertrophy is building muscle size
Hyperplasia does not happen in humans, there is very little scientific evidence at all.
Here is an interesting article on muscle fibres
https://www.acefitness.org/resources/pros/expert-articles/5411/10-things-to-know-about-muscle-fibers/#:~:text=As%20fibers%20are%20damaged%20from,for%20building%20new%20muscle%20proteins.
Muscle fibers experience two specific types of hypertrophy. Myofibrillar hypertrophy refers to the increase in size or thickness of individual actin and myosin protein filaments, which can improve the force-production capacity of individual fibers. Myofibrillar hypertrophy does not lead to larger muscles; rather, it results in thicker muscle fibers capable of generating more force. Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy is an increase in the volume of the semifluid interfibrillar substance surrounding an individual muscle fiber. This fluid contains the proteins used to promote tissue repair and growth. The muscle “pump” that bodybuilders work to achieve is actually sarcoplasmic hypertrophy—the cross-section of muscle fibers will increase, but most of the enhanced muscle size is due to an increased volume of the sarcoplasm and non-contractile proteins not directly involved with force production.
A simple example of why we dont increase the NUMBER of muscle fibres is that we eventually stop growing no matter how hard we train or how many drugs we take
Also the fact that after we stop training we shrink back down to how we looked prior to training shows we dont increase fibres, yet after three months back training we blow back up to what we were due to the cfact the fibres were previously streched so they just fill up again.
Also we wouldnt have stubborn bodyparts that simply wont improve if we could inrease muscle cells/fibres
oh, and a calorie is just a calorie. ;D
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makes sense mate
so bascially muscle memory is just previous expansion as it was!
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makes sense mate
so bascially muscle memory is just previous expansion as it was!
I think so yes, because its been previously expanded it just blows back up again...
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i know when i started back i blew up on creatine. seriously. its muslce memory or rsather expansion. it makes sense.
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I was taught in school in "exercise science" classes (nh) that hyperplasia does not happen or is at least negligible as a response to resistance training in humans under normal/healthy circumstances.
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Terry Hollands just agreed with me in the thread on FB so I think I may be on the right track
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I was taught in school in "exercise science" classes (nh) that hyperplasia does not happen or is at least negligible as a response to resistance training in humans under normal/healthy circumstances.
and this is exactly why eating huge amounts of protein is a waste of time, you cant create NEW fibres, just repair the ones you have,
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https://www.physoc.org/magazine-articles/muscle-mass-at-the-top-a-likely-role-for-fibre-hyperplasia-in-humans/
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https://www.physoc.org/magazine-articles/muscle-mass-at-the-top-a-likely-role-for-fibre-hyperplasia-in-humans/
fuckoff brian
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1605384/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8107539/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3520748/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7326216/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7968431/
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Muscle cells just like fat cells do not increase in number.....you have the same number today as the day you were born
They do however expand and shrink depending on whether you are training and eating accordingly (HYPERTROPHY), and shrink if you are not (ATROPHY).
The same with fat cells,they simply shrink and expand......the actual number of cells doesn`t increase in number.
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Muscle cells just like fat cells do not increase in number.....you have the same number today as the day you were born
They do however expand and shrink depending on whether you are training and eating accordingly (HYPERTROPHY), and shrink if you are not (ATROPHY).
The same with fat cells,they simply shrink and expand......the actual number of cells doesn`t increase in number.
Wrong on both counts
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1605384/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8107539/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3520748/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7326216/
this post is probably the most stupid post you have ever made
Seriously , did you even read any of them?
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this post is probably the most stupid post you have ever made
Seriously , did you even read any of them?
You and Wes are both simply wrong it's not something I am going to debate with you. Your belief has nothing to do with it.
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Muscle cells just like fat cells do not increase in number.....you have the same number today as the day you were born
They do however expand and shrink depending on whether you are training and eating accordingly (HYPERTROPHY), and shrink if you are not (ATROPHY).
The same with fat cells,they simply shrink and expand......the actual number of cells doesn`t increase in number.
To my knowledge we can incease fat cells but we never lose them, they just cluster and lose.
Once you have been fat you always have the propensity to be fat again.
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To my knowledge we can incease fat cells but we never lose them, they just cluster and lose.
Once you have been fat you always have the propensity to be fat again.
Thank you my brother,I didn`t know that. :)
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You and Wes are both simply wrong it's not something I am going to debate with you. Your belief has nothing to do with it.
You posted studies on rats and cats you fucking idiot, try and find some evidence on human studies you fucking kunt
Oh, and dont post in here again, this thread is for people with good moral character not fucking degenerate twats
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1605384/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8107539/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3520748/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7326216/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7968431/
Like I`m really gonna` read bullshit links you post......NEWSFLASH....I never ever have....not once.
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Like I`m really gonna` read bullshit links you post......NEWSFLASH....I never ever have....not once.
he didnt read them either or he wouldnt have posted them
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Again you are both wrong Apoptosis can absolutely be induced in adult fat cells
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he didnt read them either or he wouldnt have posted them
:D
HE KNOWS JACKSHIT ABOUT BODYBUILDING
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he didnt read them either or he wouldnt have posted them
I can post them and I can read them. I can't understand them for you. You are wrong in everything you posted this thread.
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Again you are both wrong Apoptosis can absolutely be induced in adult fat cells
Muscle you idiot
Hyperplaisa doesnt happen in humans unless you have a serious illness
Hopefull you experience hyperplasia very soon
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Again you are both wrong Apoptosis can absolutely be induced in adult fat cells
Who is Apoptosis.....does he post here? ;D
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Let us not forget Jeff that the great Brian Hankins has an extra back muscle that no other being either human or animal possess ! ;D
Probably caused by Hyperplasia. :D
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ;D
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I can post them and I can read them. I can't understand them for you. You are wrong in everything you posted this thread.
its studies in rats, cats and birds you fucking idiot
we are talkiing about humans
Thats how I know you didnt read them, ir if you did you certainly dont understand them
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I had no idea that rats, cats, and birds lifted weights........thanks for that Brian.....I learn something new here on the daily. ;D
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Who is Apoptosis.....does he post here? ;D
Apoptosis is cell death after you lose about 10% of your bodyweight you will actually start trimming your population of fat cells through this process.
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Let us not forget Jeff that the great Brian Hankins has an extra back muscle that no other being either human or animal possess ! ;D
Probably caused by Hyperplasia. :D
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ;D
;D
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its studies in rats, cats and birds you fucking idiot
we are talkiing about humans
Thats how I know you didnt read them, ir if you did you certainly dont understand them
I read them and I understand them. Not all studies are ethical or practical to perform on humans. We cant just dissect you post workout and count your muscle fibers now can we? We are not that physiologically different from other animals that is why we use them for studies.
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this is the way..you guys are over complicating things... :D
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Apoptosis is cell death after you lose about 10% of your bodyweight you will actually start trimming your population of fat cells through this process.
stop Googling and post something you actually know about
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stop Googling and post something you actually know about
You are just factually wrong on both accounts sorry boomer.
https://www.nature.com/articles/0801491
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this is the way..you guys are over complicating things... :D
HA HA HA HA HA....good shit Donny ! :D
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stop Googling and post something you actually know about
That would be quite a stretch ! LOL ;D
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You are just factually wrong on both accounts sorry boomer.
https://www.nature.com/articles/0801491
JKK discharge i
was that factually wrong brian?
course it wasnt you junkie fuck
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1605384/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8107539/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3520748/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7326216/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7968431/
Although exercise-induced muscle fiber hyperplasia has been demonstrated through direct fiber counts following nitric-acid digestion of muscle, morphological studies to determine the mechanism of hyperplasia have not been performed previously. In this study, light and electron microscopy were used to evaluate evidence of muscle fiber splitting or de novo formation of new muscle fibers. Since both fiber hypertrophy and hyperplasia may result in alterations in the muscle nuclear populations, myonuclear number and satellite cell frequency were assessed quantitatively to determine their role in regulating muscle fiber size. Ten adult cats performed weight-lifting exercise, and the right (exercised) and left (control) forelimbs were fixed by vascular perfusion. Spaced serial sections were used to evaluate muscle fiber morphology along the length of fibers, and muscle fiber areas were measured. Myonuclei and satellite cells were counted using electron microscopy. Morphological evidence supporting muscle fiber hyperplasia was observed in exercised muscles. These observations included the presence of small fibers which may signify de novo fiber formation. Myonuclear counts indicate that myonuclear density is not a primary regulator of fiber size. Satellite cell frequency was unchanged following exercise. Autoradiographic studies revealed satellite cell activation by uptake of tritiated thymidine in exercised muscles. Satellite cell activation appears to result from increased activity in exercised muscles. These findings confirm previous studies demonstrating muscle fiber hyperplasia following weight-lifting exercise, and suggest that de novo fiber formation is the major mechanism contributing to muscle fiber hyperplasia in this model.
Thanks for the links Brian!
I'm glad you're here to discuss this with us. All I can find online is the abstract. Since you've cited these studies, I assume you've read the full body of the paper to make an informed decision about its merits. I'm especially interested in the bolded section. Which weight lifting exercises did the ten cats perform? Were they doing free weights? Do you think Rocky could be trained to do weight lifting?
Thanks in advance Brian!
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get ready fr read it yorself ive got to do something very important
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Thanks for the links Brian!
I'm glad you're here to discuss this with us. All I can find online is the abstract. Since you've cited these studies, I assume you've read the full body of the paper to make an informed decision about its merits. I'm especially interested in the bolded section. Which weight lifting exercises did the ten cats perform? Were they doing free weights? Do you think Rocky could be trained to do weight lifting?
Thanks in advance Brian!
the others are about rats and birds
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To my knowledge we can incease fat cells but we never lose them, they just cluster and lose.
Once you have been fat you always have the propensity to be fat again.
Have you heard of Cool Sculpting? Fat cells die when they are frozen. Once dead the body sluffs them off over a short period of time. Cool Sculpting will not make fat people skinny. It is meant for targeting specific areas, such as men's 'love handles,' and other areas of subcutaneous fat.
Of course, following any kind of weight loss program, a poor diet and overeating can result in someone becoming fat again, but these are new fat cells.
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Have you heard of Cool Sculpting? Fat cells die when they are frozen. Once dead the body sluffs them off over a short period of time. Cool Sculpting will not make fat people skinny. It is meant for targeting specific areas, such as men's 'love handles,' and other areas of subcutaneous fat.
Of course, following any kind of weight loss program, a poor diet and overeating can result in someone becoming fat again, but these are new fat cells.
Hankins has had various surgical procedures to assist his bodybuilding and taken tons of gear and fat burning drugs and supplements for decades and still looks thus:
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Who is Apoptosis.....does he post here? ;D
Isn't he the ancient Greek expert on Fuck all. He's where Bianca gets all his useless
Information from.
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https://www.physoc.org/magazine-articles/muscle-mass-at-the-top-a-likely-role-for-fibre-hyperplasia-in-humans/
You don't read thing thoroughly
Unfortunately, to date, only indirect observations like ours support this hypothesis in humans. In animal models (rat or chicken) some evidence does suggest that hyperplasia can occur in overloaded conditions or after stretching.
Note the word : hypothesis
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1605384/ 1992 study..yeah, really relevant
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8107539/ 1993 study..yeah, really relevant
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3520748/ 1986 study..even worse
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7326216/ 1981 study..we're regressing like your hair
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7968431/ 1994 study..yeah, really relevant
Besides the above notes rats, quail, etc....also, ALL FUCKING ABSTRACTS. Please don't bother saying you read studies if this is the shit you are referring to
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You are just factually wrong on both accounts sorry boomer.
https://www.nature.com/articles/0801491
Once again...24yo study ABSTRACT
Hypertrophy will occur before any consideration of hyperplasia via a stretch reflex. Funny enough on the hyperplasia aspect of things Brian...you love your HGH...just so you know hyperplasia DOES occur in the pituitary, thymus, and mammary glands with HGH usage.
Take that titty boy
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Now, if you want to read an ARTICE (and current at that)....take a few minutes off of teaching yourself molecular biochemistry in one night and read this...
https://skeletalmusclejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13395-023-00322-2
If you don't...just know this is a conclusion:
By studying the regenerating tissue 30 days later with a range of microscopy techniques, we find that so-called myofibre branching or splitting is more likely to be fusion of myotubes and is therefore explained by incomplete regeneration after a necrosis-inducing event.
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Muscle grows through the activation of satellite cells, which are muscle stem cells that reside within the muscle fibers; when stimulated by exercise or injury, these cells proliferate, differentiate into myoblasts, and then fuse with existing muscle fibers, adding new nuclei and contributing to muscle growth (hypertrophy) by increasing the fiber size and overall muscle mass.
So these "satellite cells" essentially become part of the existing muscle cell. So I think it's a bit of semantics in that I guess it depends on whether you think a stem cell that begins to grow and proliferate in direct response to training or gear is new muscle cells. Then there the idea of a muscle cell vs a muscle fiber, which is essentially a "type" of muscle cell and then myofibrils and stuff that gets beyond my knowledge.
I don't have my copy from 30 years ago but if anyone finds Duchaines Underground Steroid Handbook 2 I remember he gives a very detailed version of how muscle grows, If anyone has a copy he gets into the whole scientific process but everyone just skipped to the red pages.
I linked an article showing that elite powerlifters had more muscle fibers than controls but it could be all genetic, I just scanned the article. Thanks for an interesting discussion on the topic
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00421171#:~:text=Despite%20large%20differences%20in%20elbow,fibres%20than%20the%20controls%20did.
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You don't read thing thoroughly
Unfortunately, to date, only indirect observations like ours support this hypothesis in humans. In animal models (rat or chicken) some evidence does suggest that hyperplasia can occur in overloaded conditions or after stretching.
Note the word : hypothesis
He doesn’t read anything
Just dumps it into chatgpt or perplexity
Idiots posts a studied about rats and cats
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this is the way..you guys are over complicating things... :D
That machine sits next to the bicep supinator.
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this is the way..you guys are over complicating things... :D
One of those bands snapped and hit him in the eye, he was blind for a while.
Mentally ill midget of peace
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And in the death, as the last few corpses lay rotting on the slimy thoroughfare, the shutters lifted an inch in temperance building, high on Poacher's Hill and red mutant eyes gazed down on Hunger City. No more big wheels. Fleas the size of rats sucked on rats the size of cats and ten thousand peoploids split into small tribes, coveting the highest of the sterile skyscrapers like packs of dogs assaulting the glass fronts of Love-Me Avenue. Ripping and rewrapping mink and shiny silver fox, now legwarmers. Family badge of sapphire and cracked emerald. Any day now, the year of the Diamond Dogs
"This ain't rock and roll! This is genocide!"
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I saw David Bowie perform with Nine Inch Nail it was a really good concert
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I saw David Bowie perform with Nine Inch Nail it was a really good concert
Judging by that avatar somebody else has your account now
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Isn't he the ancient Greek expert on Fuck all. He's where Bianca gets all his useless
Information from.
:D
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Judging by that avatar somebody else has your account now
I loved back to school probably watched it 100 times as a kid it was a great movie. By my math Dangerfield was 65 years old so I am a bit younger.
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I loved back to school probably watched it 100 times as a kid it was a great movie. By my math Dangerfield was 65 years old so I am a bit younger.
key difference is dangerfield was liked and had friends. he also wasnt a shamed out of the army junkie who aid men to bang him in the ass.
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I loved back to school probably watched it 100 times as a kid it was a great movie. By my math Dangerfield was 65 years old so I am a bit younger.
I’m sure you did, bro. It was in between your fights during school. 100 fights a day. And then walking the streets of New York eating hotdogs. Because you were too poor. But then in winter you would go ski. The Swiss Alps makes total sense man.
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I loved back to school probably watched it 100 times as a kid it was a great movie. By my math Dangerfield was 65 years old so I am a bit younger.
story of a kid with a rich dad who is failing at everything in school so his dad goes to the school to try and make his son popular
No wonder you have watched it so many times, its your fucking life story
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and learning calculus overnight, wrasling internationally, running cross country in national level times, zipping round the south bronx on a scooter, being banned from taking the principles daughter to the prom, attending 5 different schools and undertaking studies for NASA.
STANDARD CHILDHOOD AND VERY BELIEVABLE,
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Muscle grows through the activation of satellite cells, which are muscle stem cells that reside within the muscle fibers; when stimulated by exercise or injury, these cells proliferate, differentiate into myoblasts, and then fuse with existing muscle fibers, adding new nuclei and contributing to muscle growth (hypertrophy) by increasing the fiber size and overall muscle mass.
So these "satellite cells" essentially become part of the existing muscle cell. So I think it's a bit of semantics in that I guess it depends on whether you think a stem cell that begins to grow and proliferate in direct response to training or gear is new muscle cells. Then there the idea of a muscle cell vs a muscle fiber, which is essentially a "type" of muscle cell and then myofibrils and stuff that gets beyond my knowledge.
I don't have my copy from 30 years ago but if anyone finds Duchaines Underground Steroid Handbook 2 I remember he gives a very detailed version of how muscle grows, If anyone has a copy he gets into the whole scientific process but everyone just skipped to the red pages.
I linked an article showing that elite powerlifters had more muscle fibers than controls but it could be all genetic, I just scanned the article. Thanks for an interesting discussion on the topic
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00421171#:~:text=Despite%20large%20differences%20in%20elbow,fibres%20than%20the%20controls%20did.
Great post thanks
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Who is Apoptosis.....does he post here? ;D
being from melbourne, which has the second highest greek population of any city with the sole exception of the capital of greece - athens, I know this one.
He is actually getting it mixed up with ἀπό-πίσω which could be phonetically represented in English by 'apo-piso' , which is his most frequent search term on the net, and alludes to his favourite erm exercise.
He would no doubt also be familiar with Ποιος είναι ο μπαμπάς σου - 'pios einai o papa sou' which would be 'words of encouragement' yelled at him during the erm work set by his training partner - no wait I mean his personal trainer, because it woiuld be someone who is being paid to train him. (which rather ironically unravels another semhanktic lie 'he never paid men to fuck him in the arse' because he was actually paying for a personal trainer, yeah that'll throw them off the scent )
following right along it might point out more semhanktics. Not rec drugs, the heavy painkillers/ketamine were actually biologically identical and medicinal for injuries to his sphincter that his official report had him claiming was the result of a freak almost act of god accident on the mortar training course..Likely as not it was Goodrum (who is a good bloke imo more power to him) with a no lube no warning 20 yard run-up foreplay style. Fire in the hole indeed
I’m sure you did, bro. It was in between your fights during school. 100 fights a day.
And yet the complete absence of any serious scarring on the knuckles.But yeah, thats factually actually impossible unless he didn't land a single punch. Hell even if he hits like a girl (which we hgave seen to be true - even juiced to the gills) his hands would be scars upon scars. It's almost like he's a liar.
being banned from taking the principles daughter to the prom,
that might hgave been due to the 12 year age difference - the haters kept him back a year or two till he could hold a pencil
and undertaking studies for NASA.
well they did send chimps up in space first - you know - perfect the technology with expendablelife forms who are otherwise worthless to society. he'd qualift on another level too - astronauts - even chimpds had to be under 5'11 for the mercury space craft and under 180 lbs (easy - just take him off the PEDs for a couple of months.)
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Hooper has small joints - he's destroying himself.
He kinda looks like a lean Eric Cartman.
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Bhank ruins every thread he posts in.
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being from melbourne, which has the second highest greek population of any city with the sole exception of the capital of greece - athens, I know this one.
He is actually getting it mixed up with ἀπό-πίσω which could be phonetically represented in English by 'apo-piso' , which is his most frequent search term on the net, and alludes to his favourite erm exercise.
He would no doubt also be familiar with Ποιος είναι ο μπαμπάς σου - 'pios einai o papa sou' which would be 'words of encouragement' yelled at him during the erm work set by his training partner - no wait I mean his personal trainer, because it woiuld be someone who is being paid to train him. (which rather ironically unravels another semhanktic lie 'he never paid men to fuck him in the arse' because he was actually paying for a personal trainer, yeah that'll throw them off the scent )
following right along it might point out more semhanktics. Not rec drugs, the heavy painkillers/ketamine were actually biologically identical and medicinal for injuries to his sphincter that his official report had him claiming was the result of a freak almost act of god accident on the mortar training course..Likely as not it was Goodrum (who is a good bloke imo more power to him) with a no lube no warning 20 yard run-up foreplay style. Fire in the hole indeed
And yet the complete absence of any serious scarring on the knuckles.But yeah, thats factually actually impossible unless he didn't land a single punch. Hell even if he hits like a girl (which we hgave seen to be true - even juiced to the gills) his hands would be scars upon scars. It's almost like he's a liar.
that might hgave been due to the 12 year age difference - the haters kept him back a year or two till he could hold a pencil
well they did send chimps up in space first - you know - perfect the technology with expendablelife forms who are otherwise worthless to society. he'd qualift on another level too - astronauts - even chimpds had to be under 5'11 for the mercury space craft and under 180 lbs (easy - just take him off the PEDs for a couple of months.)
Good stuff.....please never stop posting here. ;D
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I had no idea that rats, cats, and birds lifted weights........thanks for that Brian.....I learn something new here on the daily. ;D
Quite true. One super cat had to lift a resistance to get food and she developed larger muscles. It was a shame that cat had to die for science. Birds had to hop around with a weight on one wing which was increased over time. Both cat and quail grew larger muscles, perhaps hyperplasia.
The problem with hypertrophy in champion bodybuilders is that they have never been tested to find out what their muscles are composed of. I doubt any would consent to having some fibers taken from precious muscles. The exercise scientists completely ignore champion bodybuilders so we will have to remain somewhat ignorant because there is no science relating to their superior muscle size.
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Quite true. One super cat had to lift a resistance to get food and she developed larger muscles. It was a shame that cat had to die for science. Birds had to hop around with a weight on one wing which was increased over time. Both cat and quail grew larger muscles, perhaps hyperplasia.
The problem with hypertrophy in champion bodybuilders is that they have never been tested to find out what their muscles are composed of. I doubt any would consent to having some fibers taken from precious muscles. The exercise scientists completely ignore champion bodybuilders so we will have to remain somewhat ignorant because there is no science relating to their superior muscle size.
key word
I do get your point though Vince.
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Quite true. One super cat had to lift a resistance to get food and she developed larger muscles. It was a shame that cat had to die for science. Birds had to hop around with a weight on one wing which was increased over time. Both cat and quail grew larger muscles, perhaps hyperplasia.
The problem with hypertrophy in champion bodybuilders is that they have never been tested to find out what their muscles are composed of. I doubt any would consent to having some fibers taken from precious muscles. The exercise scientists completely ignore champion bodybuilders so we will have to remain somewhat ignorant because there is no science relating to their superior muscle size.
Vince what's your analysis of this feat of muscle building hypertrophy ?
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Vince what's your analysis of this feat of muscle building hypertrophy ?
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Good way to tear biceps and damage your spine. I tore my right biceps doing a dead lift with 510 pounds. Cold night and warmed up with 400. Silly me. I don't recommend this movement for bodybuilders. Of course Matt Canning will continue to do them.
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Good way to tear biceps and damage your spine. I tore my right biceps doing a dead lift with 510 pounds. Cold night and warmed up with 400. Silly me. I don't recommend this movement for bodybuilders. Of course Matt Canning will continue to do them.
Did you use mixed grip?
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Vince what's your analysis of this feat of muscle building hypertrophy ?
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What a fucking idiot.....I see traction in his future.....nice looking gym though. ;D
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What a fucking idiot.....I see traction in his future.....nice looking gym though. ;D
reminded me of one retard in the gym ;D
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reminded me of one retard in the gym ;D
at least he lowered in in a controlled fashion ;D
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at least he lowered in in a controlled fashion ;D
gotta get the Negatives :D
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gotta get the Negatives :D
He both raised it in a negative fashion, as well a lowering it in a negative fashion. :D
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He both raised it in a negative fashion, as well a lowering it in a negative fashion. :D
:D
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He both raised it in a negative fashion, as well a lowering it in a negative fashion. :D
:D
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Double Negative Of Peace For A Double ;D
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Good way to tear biceps and damage your spine. I tore my right biceps doing a dead lift with 510 pounds. Cold night and warmed up with 400. Silly me. I don't recommend this movement for bodybuilders. Of course Matt Canning will continue to do them.
Damage your spine....geezus. So axial loading of the spine with 100's of pounds is so much better?
I mean if Vince B doesn't recommend these....thats all that needs to be said.