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Tariffs will be the end of MAGA.
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Tariffs will be the end of MAGA.
Maybe. I know this might be an unpopular opinion, but I’m a fan of tariffs over income taxes. Conceptually, it feels fairer to tax what people buy rather than what they earn. Plus, it could shift American habits in a good way. There’s so much waste in our society. Maybe this would push us to be more frugal. Why does someone making $50k a year drop $50k on a car or eat out every night?
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Maybe. I know this might be an unpopular opinion, but I’m a fan of tariffs over income taxes. Conceptually, it feels fairer to tax what people buy rather than what they earn. Plus, it could shift American habits in a good way. There’s so much waste in our society. Maybe this would push us to be more frugal. Why does someone making $50k a year drop $50k on a car or eat out every night?
Totally agree.
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Everything You Need to Know About Trump's Tariffs and Fixing America’s Working Class
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Tariffs will be the end of MAGA.
Just like in his first term, right?
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Disruption is always uncomfortable.
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Disruption is always uncomfortable.
If the tariffs work you will see the media and historians working overtime to give credit to anyone or anything but Trump.
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I can't wait for these countries to start paying our tariffs. Our prices will never go up right?
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Not going lie here. I woke up, looked at the markets and slightly hyperventilated. But I get why this is being done…
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The stock market has been over-valued for years and due for a correction.
Tesla was (is?) an example of an insanely over-valued stock.
Those not sensibly diversified will learn a hard lesson.
It's a scenario repeated over and over and some people never
learn.
https://www.currentmarketvaluation.com/models/buffett-indicator.php
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The stock market has been over-valued for years and due for a correction.
Tesla was (is?) an example of an insanely over-valued stock.
Those not sensibly diversified will learn a hard lesson.
It's a scenario repeated over and over and some people never
learn.
https://www.currentmarketvaluation.com/models/buffett-indicator.php
The market has not made sense to me since covid.
I've always done the simple 3 fund portfolio with ETFs of bonds, US stocks, and international stocks. More recently I put a ~5% allocation to a bitcoin index fund (not recommended by my usual conservative advisors). I've always thought of bonds as the traditional way to hedge against a market downturn but with a devalued dollar it makes me wonder about gold which I've never done.
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The market has not made sense to me since covid.
I've always done the simple 3 fund portfolio with ETFs of bonds, US stocks, and international stocks. More recently I put a ~5% allocation to a bitcoin index fund (not recommended by my usual conservative advisors). I've always thought of bonds as the traditional way to hedge against a market downturn but with a devalued dollar it makes me wonder about gold which I've never done.
You'll end up fine doing that.
I can't give advices on bitcoin except as a place to risk money you can afford to lose.
Who knows though it could pay off.
Gold is strictly a hedge against financial armageddon. It produces no income and historically has only matched inflation at best. The gold shills always advertise heavily during uncertain times, playing on fear.
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If you can’t handle the dips in the market you probably can’t afford to be in the market. MAGA or GTFO!
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If you can’t handle the dips in the market you probably can’t afford to be in the market. MAGA or GTFO!
For those who cannot afford dips in the market, you are correct. If the market crashes, it is a completely different story because almost no one can afford this.
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If you can’t handle the dips in the market you probably can’t afford to be in the market. MAGA or GTFO!
MAGA!!!!!!!!
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Not going lie here. I woke up, looked at the markets and slightly hyperventilated. But I get why this is being done…
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-payrolls-unexpectedly-soar-228k-above-highest-estimate
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-payrolls-unexpectedly-soar-228k-above-highest-estimate
Which has nothing to do with tariffs does it? That's what this thread is about.
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Trump Says Vietnam Offers to Cut Tariffs on America to Zero
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/04/04/trump-says-vietnam-offers-cut-tariffs-america-zero/
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seems we didn't screw them enough 50 years ago
You realize it's communist Vietnam, right?
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If Tariffs are so good for the country why are so many oil and fossil fuel products exempted ?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Annex-II.pdf (https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Annex-II.pdf)
It's all about what's in U.S. interest.
Yougottaproblemwithat?
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I don't remember anything being said about the tariffs being such a boo-boo from day one.
We do have tariffs right? I know the last couple times El Orange-O had them on then off then on then off, couldn't make his mind up. So are they like "a thing" now or what?
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but why is it in the national interest that fuel industry is being discriminated against. Why are they being deprived of the tariff benefits available to other industries ?
Our simple minds are not capable of understanding.
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If you can’t handle the dips in the market you probably can’t afford to be in the market. MAGA or GTFO!
$6T of wealth gone isn’t a “dip”, it’s a historic event.
I think Trump has some good policies but this tariff thing is one of the dumbest of all time. Someone please explain how making goods more expensive for Americans—who already struggle to get by—is a good thing. Because to me it appears as though it will plunge this country straight into a deep recession, if not a depression.
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$6T of wealth gone isn’t a “dip”, it’s a historic event.
I think Trump has some good policies but this tariff thing is one of the dumbest of all time. Someone please explain how making goods more expensive for Americans—who already struggle to get by—is a good thing. Because to me it appears as though it will plunge this country straight into a deep recession, if not a depression.
Do you really think the stock market only goes up?
S&P 500 historical annual returns:
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Do you really think the stock market only goes up?
LOL ;D
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$6T of wealth gone isn’t a “dip”, it’s a historic event.
I think Trump has some good policies but this tariff thing is one of the dumbest of all time. Someone please explain how making goods more expensive for Americans—who already struggle to get by—is a good thing. Because to me it appears as though it will plunge this country straight into a deep recession, if not a depression.
If tariffs are so dumb then why does every country impose them?
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Why is it ok for Canada to have 250% tariff on lumber to the United States, but it is unaceptable to America charge 25% on them?
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If tariffs are so dumb then why does every country impose them?
This is what I don't get. If tariffs are so bad for our country, then wouldn't retaliatory tariffs also be bad for the other countries? So, aren't those other countries also just hurting themselves by doing the retaliatory tariffs on the US?
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$6T of wealth gone isn’t a “dip”, it’s a historic event.
I think Trump has some good policies but this tariff thing is one of the dumbest of all time. Someone please explain how making goods more expensive for Americans—who already struggle to get by—is a good thing. Because to me it appears as though it will plunge this country straight into a deep recession, if not a depression.
I guess the thought is, it forces production in the US instead of abroad, this creating jobs here and in turn stimulating the economy. I’d also wager that maybe he thinks it will cause the Fed to drop interest rates to make sure we don’t slip into depression. Just my thoughts, I’m not an economist though or anything.
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It's a national security issue.
We can't rely on getting critical supplies from China and other potential enemies.
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It's a national security issue.
We can't rely on getting critical supplies from China and other potential enemies.
If Biden or Harris imposed these tariffs the media would be praising them.
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If Biden or Harris imposed these tariffs the media would be praising them.
than perhaps it is worth asking why they didn't
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/trumps-tariffs-are-working-here-are-all-countries/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaeT4pzjBj3Ct_SPvcDKnm_hs-TEzUnK1GCgsnHB6OSLkDRL1zySYUMTjUC_nA_aem_yBm6T21NYViUGd2Uf8YLUA
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than perhaps it is worth asking why they didn't
Because they're not that smart.
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I guess the thought is, it forces production in the US instead of abroad, this creating jobs here and in turn stimulating the economy. I’d also wager that maybe he thinks it will cause the Fed to drop interest rates to make sure we don’t slip into depression. Just my thoughts, I’m not an economist though or anything.
Over a long enough period, sure. But that will take YEARS if you just leave it up to market forces. Factories don’t just pop up overnight in response to a bunch of tariffs. The responsible way to do it would be to carry out a long term plan over a few years to transition back to domestic manufacturing. Thereby minimizing any negative effects to Americans and the American economy.
Slapping a bunch of tariffs on everything overnight will just kill American businesses and strangle the American consumer.
It's a national security issue.
We can't rely on getting critical supplies from China and other potential enemies.
Agreed. We should invest heavily in domestic manufacturing. Levying heavy tariffs on everything will lead to high inflation and tank the economy. The next president will overturn the tariffs and it will have all been for naught.
If Biden or Harris imposed these tariffs the media would be praising them.
They’d be calling for them to be 25th’d, and rightfully so. We are being driven into an economic depression.
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The media would never be calling for the 25th on Biden / Harris.
They actually had a legit chance to do that and passed on it.
The dishonest mainstream media is still the biggest driver of unrest in this country.
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Seems like Pelosi was a big supporter of tariffs on China:
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Seems like Pelosi was a big supporter of tariffs on China:
;D
"But what often goes unnoticed is President Biden’s role in continuing President Trump’s first trade war. In fact, more tax revenue from the trade war tariffs has been collected under Biden than under Trump."
https://taxfoundation.org/blog/biden-trump-tariffs/
"The Biden administration said Friday that it has finalized tariff hikes on certain Chinese-made products that the president first announced in May. Trump implemented sweeping tariffs on about $300 billion of Chinese-made products when he was in office. President Joe Biden has kept those tariffs in place and, after the USTR finished a multiyear review earlier this year, decided to increase some of the rates on about $15 billion of Chinese imports."
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/china-tariffs-biden-trump/index.html
"Back in 2018, lawmakers of both parties greeted President Donald Trump’s decision to slap tariffs on Chinese imports with widespread derision. Six years later, most members of Congress are applauding President Joe Biden’s extension — and in some cases, expansion — of those tariffs, if not calling for him to go even further."
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/15/biden-tariff-reaction-trump-00158043
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So these tariffs is going to cost everyone more money. The countries they are levied against them won't be paying the tariffs. But when the tariffs go away, the prices are going to come back down huh? Who actually thinks this? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA
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Over a long enough period, sure. But that will take YEARS if you just leave it up to market forces. Factories don’t just pop up overnight in response to a bunch of tariffs. The responsible way to do it would be to carry out a long term plan over a few years to transition back to domestic manufacturing. Thereby minimizing any negative effects to Americans and the American economy.
Slapping a bunch of tariffs on everything overnight will just kill American businesses and strangle the American consumer.
Agreed. We should invest heavily in domestic manufacturing. Levying heavy tariffs on everything will lead to high inflation and tank the economy. The next president will overturn the tariffs and it will have all been for naught.
They’d be calling for them to be 25th’d, and rightfully so. We are being driven into an economic depression.
You guys have been wrong about everything with Trump. This will just be another.
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After the “stable genius” moment of imposing tariffs on uninhabitable islands, Trumpy continues with such a winning strategy.
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Art of the Deal: EU Offers Trump ‘Zero-for-Zero Tariffs’ on Industrial Goods with United States
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/04/07/eu-offers-trump-zero-for-zero-tariffs-on-industrial-goods-with-united-states/
The fact that Lurker is an economic retard means nothing here
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So much winning.
I can hardly take any more.
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So much winning.
I can hardly take any more.
So let’s say due to market uncertainty the Fed drops interest rates, other countries bend the knee to get the tariffs lifted, and the stock market goes crazy. Will Trump get any credit for this? Will this market crash be temporary like we saw at the beginning of Covid? I’d like to think that’s what happens, but I’m not sure. It seems some of the world is coming around and wanting to work with America to get markets stabilized, if only for that reason. Will trumps bullying tactic work? ???
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So let’s say due to market uncertainty the Fed drops interest rates, other countries bend the knee to get the tariffs lifted, and the stock market goes crazy. Will Trump get any credit for this? Will this market crash be temporary like we saw at the beginning of Covid? I’d like to think that’s what happens, but I’m not sure. It seems some of the world is coming around and wanting to work with America to get markets stabilized, if only for that reason. Will trumps bullying tactic work? ???
It's already working.
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Liberals will absolutely meltdown is this keeps up…..
Right now…
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Liberals will absolutely meltdown is this keeps up…..
Right now…
Are you advocating the DOW nose diving is a good thing? How much into this Cult are you?
Liberals KNEW this clown would be detrimental to this country, Stock Market, World view. Ethics. Only people like YOU thought he would do anything positive. and by your positive, it would involve some racists stuff. Thankfully, neither of those are working out for him./ I really think it's the Conservatives that are wondering what the hell they supported. At least the good ones are.
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S&P 500 just around what it was 1 year ago.
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The ketamine artificial inseminator has been crying about tariffs
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/05/elon-musk-peter-navarro-tariffs-00006930 (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/05/elon-musk-peter-navarro-tariffs-00006930)
By Giselle Ruhiyyih Ewing
04/05/2025 12:01 PM EDT
Elon Musk took an apparent swing at senior White House aide Peter Navarro — one of the chief cheerleaders of President Donald Trump’s tariff plans — amid market turmoil that has hammered Musk’s holdings.
Musk, a close adviser to the president, has been unusually quiet as the rollout of Trump’s sweeping tariffs have caused the markets to tumble and global trading partners to retaliate.
Tesla sources a lot of stuff from...
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Tesla sources a lot of stuff from...
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it sure does and Mr Trumps belly prancer doesn't seem to know where his loyalties lie
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Are you advocating the DOW nose diving is a good thing? How much into this Cult are you?
Liberals KNEW this clown would be detrimental to this country, Stock Market, World view. Ethics. Only people like YOU thought he would do anything positive. and by your positive, it would involve some racists stuff. Thankfully, neither of those are working out for him./ I really think it's the Conservatives that are wondering what the hell they supported. At least the good ones are.
Idiot!
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So it's once every 90 days for tariffs now? ::) This little chickenshit can't stand by his own actions and has to keep pausing them.
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"But what often goes unnoticed is President Biden’s role in continuing President Trump’s first trade war. In fact, more tax revenue from the trade war tariffs has been collected under Biden than under Trump."
https://taxfoundation.org/blog/biden-trump-tariffs/
"The Biden administration said Friday that it has finalized tariff hikes on certain Chinese-made products that the president first announced in May. Trump implemented sweeping tariffs on about $300 billion of Chinese-made products when he was in office. President Joe Biden has kept those tariffs in place and, after the USTR finished a multiyear review earlier this year, decided to increase some of the rates on about $15 billion of Chinese imports."
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/china-tariffs-biden-trump/index.html
"Back in 2018, lawmakers of both parties greeted President Donald Trump’s decision to slap tariffs on Chinese imports with widespread derision. Six years later, most members of Congress are applauding President Joe Biden’s extension — and in some cases, expansion — of those tariffs, if not calling for him to go even further."
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/15/biden-tariff-reaction-trump-00158043
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So it's once every 90 days for tariffs now? ::) This little chickenshit can't stand by his own actions and has to keep pausing them.
You're not that bright and you're obviously watching and listening to the same lying bullshit that you usually do. The tariffs were paused 90 days on countries that didn't retaliate. After 90 days the tariffs will stay in place but be reevaluated based on the reactions of the countries that were paused. China wasn't apart of the pause.
Instead of actually watching what he actually said and repeated by trusted media, you choose ALWAYS to get your "sources" from second, third and fourth party hearsay. Then you wonder why you can't get shit right and lose 90% of the country
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You're not that bright and you're obviously watching and listening to the same lying bullshit that you usually do. The tariffs were paused 90 days on countries that didn't retaliate. After 90 days the tariffs will stay in place but be reevaluated based on the reactions of the countries that were paused. China wasn't apart of the pause.
Instead of actually watching what he actually said and repeated by trusted media, you choose ALWAYS to get your "sources" from second, third and fourth party hearsay. Then you wonder why you can't get shit right and lose 90% of the country
Thanks for clarifying that.
I've not been able to keep up to date
with what's been going on the last few days unfortunately.
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You're not that bright and you're obviously watching and listening to the same lying bullshit that you usually do. The tariffs were paused 90 days on countries that didn't retaliate. After 90 days the tariffs will stay in place but be reevaluated based on the reactions of the countries that were paused. China wasn't apart of the pause.
Instead of actually watching what he actually said and repeated by trusted media, you choose ALWAYS to get your "sources" from second, third and fourth party hearsay. Then you wonder why you can't get shit right and lose 90% of the country
Says the parrot for Gateway, Navarro, and other bullshit CT sites. ::)
A pause is a pause, it doesn't matter if it applies to all or one. The little chickenshit backed down.
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Says the parrot for Gateway, Navarro, and other bullshit CT sites. ::)
A pause is a pause, it doesn't matter if it applies to all or one. The little chickenshit backed down.
Seriously dude. I actually watched it
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Tariffs tariffs tariffs
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Says the parrot for Gateway, Navarro, and other bullshit CT sites. ::)
A pause is a pause, it doesn't matter if it applies to all or one. The little chickenshit backed down.
Fuck, you're absolutely clueless. You lost again, Comrade. Just admit it already.
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Fuck, you're absolutely clueless. You lost again, Comrade. Just admit it already.
So did he pause the tariffs on the uninhabited islands too?
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https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/04/29/report-amazon-to-display-line-item-tariff-cost-in-customers-checkout-prices/
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https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/04/29/report-amazon-to-display-line-item-tariff-cost-in-customers-checkout-prices/)
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/amazon-tariff-prices-karoline-leavitt-jeff-bezos-donald-trump-d085537c?mod=editorials_article_pos2 (https://www.wsj.com/opinion/amazon-tariff-prices-karoline-leavitt-jeff-bezos-donald-trump-d085537c?mod=editorials_article_pos2)
President Trump says his tariffs may raise enough revenue to replace the income tax, so why is he afraid to let Americans see what they’re paying? Instead of owning its policy, the White House has bullied Amazon to keep quiet about what it will cost.
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https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2025/04/29/report-amazon-to-display-line-item-tariff-cost-in-customers-checkout-prices/
Apparently Bezos is Libscum!
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Haha! How is those tariffs today? Did we take in another $2B, $2.5B, or $3B in "revenue" again today like El Orange-O claims?
Looks like the automotive tariffs are evidence of this. :D :D :D
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S&P 500 just around what it was 1 year ago.
Like these clowns even have a dime in the market ::).
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S&P 500 just around what it was 1 year ago.
Correct S&P numbers look about the same even a little better. Also, a year ago, we had high inflation. According to 'YCharts', the US inflation rate is at present 2.39% compared to 3.48% last year. This goes to show folks should not get their shorts in a knot based on what the media reports.
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This goes to show folks should not get their shorts in a knot based on what the media reports.
:o :o :o :o
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You're not that bright and you're obviously watching and listening to the same lying bullshit that you usually do. The tariffs were paused 90 days on countries that didn't retaliate. After 90 days the tariffs will stay in place but be reevaluated based on the reactions of the countries that were paused. China wasn't apart of the pause.
Instead of actually watching what he actually said and repeated by trusted media, you choose ALWAYS to get your "sources" from second, third and fourth party hearsay. Then you wonder why you can't get shit right and lose 90% of the country
LOL! how long did he wait? a week?
The reason he paused the tariffs for anyone with a brain was because of the bond market tanking. He then retroactively used the don't retaliate to not admit his weakness and ineptitude. Mark carney played him like a fiddle.
Can you admit anything truthful about this man? the guy waited 5 days for retaliation lololol ya that was clearly why he paused them, not the bond market tanking from co-ordinated selling and general panic from his absolutely retarded calculations.
The guys isn't very bright, he speaks like a toddler.
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You're not that bright and you're obviously watching and listening to the same lying bullshit that you usually do. The tariffs were paused 90 days on countries that didn't retaliate. After 90 days the tariffs will stay in place but be reevaluated based on the reactions of the countries that were paused. China wasn't apart of the pause.
Instead of actually watching what he actually said and repeated by trusted media, you choose ALWAYS to get your "sources" from second, third and fourth party hearsay. Then you wonder why you can't get shit right and lose 90% of the country
Coach - these guys aren’t very smart. They think “doing your own research is nonsense”. They believe that whatever Rafhel Maddow tells them is gospel.
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https://www.wsj.com/business/airlines/air-force-one-trump-qatari-jet-l3harris-fc903838?mod=hp_lead_pos8 (https://www.wsj.com/business/airlines/air-force-one-trump-qatari-jet-l3harris-fc903838?mod=hp_lead_pos8)
"Trump Wants a New Air Force One So Badly He’s Refurbishing a Qatari Plane
The luxury plane is being outfitted in Texas for Trump’s use as his frustration mounts with Boeing"
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Politics is so interesting - one side says it's white & the other
side says it's black - never are they going to agree. ::)
Especially Leftists they want everything Fucked up & they see
that as a success - Khvnts.
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Politics is so interesting - one side says it's white & the other
side says it's black - never are they going to agree. ::)
Especially Leftists they want everything Fucked up & they see
that as a success - Khvnts.
Yes, but the left is more devoid of facts. They have a collective TDS hive mind right now and it's why their ratings are plummeting, despite some missteps by Trump.
I've been more anti-left than pro-right, but find myself defending the right 99% of time due to the ludicrous accusations and lies from the left (like the shit funk posts). The left got so off the rails since Trump and are actually getting worse. They have no leadership, no message, and hardly any common sense centrist types who are listened to.