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I don't want to sound cold hearted, but what kind of responsibility does a say 17 year old have when she goes with men?
Someone I know was in a service job when she was a teen and from a very young age she was getting much attention from male customers, she would tell stories about strange men bringing gifts to her at work. Her mom appeared proud because she was getting attention for her good looks. Absolutely disastrous behavior by her mom imo. Any reasonable parent would say you do not accept any fucking gifts from strange men, I would think ??? Now she's been a professional whore for years and she learned early how the get what she wanted by leveraging her sex appeal. But even with bad "advice" there's a degree of personal responsibility imo. Some cold hearted people were saying Epstein's victims deserved what they got for being whores, probably seasoned ones by the time Epstein came around. Probably got paid well too. I wouldn't go that far, but I don't think it's like exactly at turning 18 you now are responsible and weren't at all just before that and are just a victim. Thoughts?
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Man that’s sad, just read she had three kids, she really fucked them.
I think pedos should be exterminated for sure, although I dont think 17 is pedo but certainly shouldn’t be fucked by older men. Sad what happened.
On another note regarding the “sex trafficking”. At what point are some of these women not held against their will, and just have regret of being prostitutes similar to the “me too” chicks who got what they wanted from the casting couch but had regret after they were tossed aside? I have no clue how sex trafficking works for adults so I don’t know what to think.
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I don't want to sound cold hearted, but what kind of responsibility does a say 17 year old have when she goes with men?
Someone I know was in a service job when she was a teen and from a very young age she was getting much attention from male customers, she would tell stories about strange men bringing gifts to her at work. Her mom appeared proud because she was getting attention for her good looks. Absolutely disastrous behavior by her mom imo. Any reasonable parent would say you do not accept any fucking gifts from strange men, I would think ??? Now she's been a professional whore for years and she learned early how the get what she wanted by leveraging her sex appeal. But even with bad "advice" there's a degree of personal responsibility imo. Some cold hearted people were saying Epstein's victims deserved what they got for being whores, probably seasoned ones by the time Epstein came around. Probably got paid well too. I wouldn't go that far, but I don't think it's like exactly at turning 18 you now are responsible and weren't at all just before that and are just a victim. Thoughts?
Logically, I agree that it doesn’t make much sense for someone to go to sleep at 17, unable to make certain decisions for themselves, and then wake up at 18 suddenly equipped to do so. But society needs a clear cutoff, and I think 18 is a fair marker for legal purposes.
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Man that’s sad, just read she had three kids, she really fucked them.
I think pedos should be exterminated for sure, although I dont think 17 is pedo but certainly shouldn’t be fucked by older men. Sad what happened.
On another note regarding the “sex trafficking”. At what point are some of these women not held against their will, and just have regret of being prostitutes similar to the “me too” chicks who got what they wanted from the casting couch but had regret after they were tossed aside? I have no clue how sex trafficking works for adults so I don’t know what to think.
not literally I hope...
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I don't want to sound cold hearted, but what kind of responsibility does a say 17 year old have when she goes with men?
Someone I know was in a service job when she was a teen and from a very young age she was getting much attention from male customers, she would tell stories about strange men bringing gifts to her at work. Her mom appeared proud because she was getting attention for her good looks. Absolutely disastrous behavior by her mom imo. Any reasonable parent would say you do not accept any fucking gifts from strange men, I would think ??? Now she's been a professional whore for years and she learned early how the get what she wanted by leveraging her sex appeal. But even with bad "advice" there's a degree of personal responsibility imo. Some cold hearted people were saying Epstein's victims deserved what they got for being whores, probably seasoned ones by the time Epstein came around. Probably got paid well too. I wouldn't go that far, but I don't think it's like exactly at turning 18 you now are responsible and weren't at all just before that and are just a victim. Thoughts?
The girls on Epstein Island would fly in from NY for the weekend, then go back to high school and recruit their friends. The Babysitters (2007) is a movie that is similar to what happened although there was no island or ultra wealthy men getting filmed for later blackmail. Everybody involved in Epstein Island are scum.
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The girls on Epstein Island would fly in from NY for the weekend, then go back to high school and recruit their friends. The Babysitters (2007) is a movie that is similar to what happened although there was no island or ultra wealthy men getting filmed for later blackmail. Everybody involved in Epstein Island are scum.
Brilliant operation though. With some James Bond features mixed in. Could be a Mossad plan, but impossible to do that on American soil for so many years and with such famous people without the CIA knowing and approving.
What was in it for the CIA?
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Brilliant operation though. With some James Bond features mixed in. Could be a Mossad plan, but impossible to do that on American soil for so many years and with such famous people without the CIA knowing and approving.
What was in it for the CIA?
Power over politicians or anyone else they have the goods on.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting/s/JiFLjEFyWs
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https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting/s/JiFLjEFyWs
And ?? That was 6yrs ago - Not yesterday.
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With a cash settlement came a life of Hollywood syndrome or life with too much money, too much time and not no responsibilities, she just failed to live up to them whilst she buried herself in drugs alcohol and self pity.
Money the answer to all of life's problems or the beginning of them for others.
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With a cash settlement came a life of Hollywood syndrome or life with too much money, too much time and not no responsibilities, she just failed to live up to them whilst she buried herself in drugs alcohol and self pity.
Money the answer to all of life's problems or the beginning of them for others.
Guy I know died recently and his wife of 18 months got all his money and property worth several millions , his three kids got £10k each
One of his kids has had drug problems throughout his life, if he had got a million pounds he would be dead by now.
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Logically, I agree that it doesn’t make much sense for someone to go to sleep at 17, unable to make certain decisions for themselves, and then wake up at 18 suddenly equipped to do so. But society needs a clear cutoff, and I think 18 is a fair marker for legal purposes.
I would make 20 years old the age of sexual consent with any ages above.
Also, legalise prostitution so those working are legal age and in designated and monitored working areas.
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According to biographies online, she was molested at 7, raped at 14 and started working at Mar-a-Lago at 17 where she met Maxwell who pimped her out to Epstein. So, out of the frying pan into the fire.
Later her husband allegedly abused her as well.
If these things are true, she didn't really stand a chance...
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I will say this about Ghislaine Maxwell, ugly fucking whore but a cracking pair of tits.
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According to biographies online, she was molested at 7, raped at 14 and started working at Mar-a-Lago at 17 where she met Maxwell who pimped her out to Epstein. So, out of the frying pan into the fire.
Later her husband allegedly abused her as well.
If these things are true, she didn't really stand a chance...
once a slut always a slut
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I would make 20 years old the age of sexual consent with any ages above.
Also, legalise prostitution so those working are legal age and in designated and monitored working areas.
20!!?? Jesus, calm down. How are Getbiggers supposed to shag their 19-year-old supermodels with that in place?
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Guy I know died recently and his wife of 18 months got all his money and property worth several millions , his three kids got £10k each
One of his kids has had drug problems throughout his life, if he had got a million pounds he would be dead by now.
I bet the kid with the drug issues still did a $10k bender, I have witnessed similar in my own family.
Yeah its the great equaliser in life, we grow up without it thinking having it will solve all our problems, in many experience it creates more than it solves, but most including myself would rather have enough over not enough.
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According to biographies online, she was molested at 7, raped at 14 and started working at Mar-a-Lago at 17 where she met Maxwell who pimped her out to Epstein. So, out of the frying pan into the fire.
Later her husband allegedly abused her as well.
If these things are true, she didn't really stand a chance...
Sounds like she had a strong case of victim syndrome. Im yet to meet a junkie without a similar story. In the end true or not, she left three kids behind and had been estranged to them. Many trauma victims heal their lives through having their own children and giving them a life they wished they had had. I won't say anymore. I hope she finds the peace in death that escaped her in life.
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Power over politicians or anyone else they have the goods on.
That seems the most logical goal for the CIA. Breaking the law and violating the American constitution never stopped that criminal organisation.
But why are they so desperate to control American ex-presidents, captains of industry and future presidents?
To blackmail your own politicians, foreign royalty, and your own top businessmen you must have an evil mindset but also a lot that you want to prevent from coming out. Apparently at all costs.
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That seems the most logical goal for the CIA. Breaking the law and violating the American constitution never stopped that criminal organisation.
But why are they so desperate to control American ex-presidents, captains of industry and future presidents?
To blackmail your own politicians, foreign royalty, and your own top businessmen you must have an evil mindset but also a lot that you want to prevent from coming out. Apparently at all costs.
The Mossad is involved as well. We all know why they want to control American politicians.
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The Mossad is involved as well. We all know why they want to control American politicians.
Must have been a Mossad operation. An ex Israeli PM was photographed visiting Epstein. Ghislaine's father was a Mossad spy. But Israeli spies are allowed to operate in the US, so is there really a difference between the US and Israel and their their intelligence services? Immediately following 9/11 some one hundred Mossad spies were arrested, which must mean they were "known," and shipped out.
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The Mossad is involved as well. We all know why they want to control American politicians.
I can understand Israels motives. Their survival can depend on American aid / assistance.
The role of the CIA is a lot more worrysome.
When your own intelligence agency is complotting against you, something is badly wrong.
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I will say this about Ghislaine Maxwell, ugly fucking whore but a cracking pair of tits.
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Look at that guy, what a scumbag!
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I don't want to sound cold hearted, but what kind of responsibility does a say 17 year old have when she goes with men?
Someone I know was in a service job when she was a teen and from a very young age she was getting much attention from male customers, she would tell stories about strange men bringing gifts to her at work. Her mom appeared proud because she was getting attention for her good looks. Absolutely disastrous behavior by her mom imo. Any reasonable parent would say you do not accept any fucking gifts from strange men, I would think ??? Now she's been a professional whore for years and she learned early how the get what she wanted by leveraging her sex appeal. But even with bad "advice" there's a degree of personal responsibility imo. Some cold hearted people were saying Epstein's victims deserved what they got for being whores, probably seasoned ones by the time Epstein came around. Probably got paid well too. I wouldn't go that far, but I don't think it's like exactly at turning 18 you now are responsible and weren't at all just before that and are just a victim. Thoughts?
The backstory as i have heard is that the girls who went to epsteins island were already child prostitutes in ukraine and to a lesser extent russia. Mostly ukraine though. Anyway they would be approached and offered a job and chance to help the family, those that agreed their family was paid and after working on the island a couple years (i have heard 15 was the end of the road for most) they would be given a million bucks cash and US passport and dropped off in florida to start a new life.
Now, i may use the term child prostitute to describe what they were doing but that does not mean grown men were having intercourse with 12-13 year old girls. They may have, maybe some did and some didnt. We dont know. All i can really say is that if these girls were suffering it sure wasnt much. I will also add that from hearing the stories from girls interviewed it seems a lot more child modeling for rich old pervs than a brothel.
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I will say this about Ghislaine Maxwell, ugly fucking whore but a cracking pair of tits.
(https://www.thetimes.com/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F41de6af8-5827-11ec-81f2-17f963b74220.jpg?crop=2985%2C1990%2C166%2C311)
Nice bombs
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Nice bombs
She should have her nipples cut off!
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It's an interesting bunch of people to blackmail:
https://www.ibtimes.sg/chief-justice-john-roberts-photos-epsteins-island-leaked-seen-getting-intimate-ghislaine-54368
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The backstory as i have heard is that the girls who went to epsteins island were already child prostitutes in ukraine and to a lesser extent russia. Mostly ukraine though. Anyway they would be approached and offered a job and chance to help the family, those that agreed their family was paid and after working on the island a couple years (i have heard 15 was the end of the road for most) they would be given a million bucks cash and US passport and dropped off in florida to start a new life.
Now, i may use the term child prostitute to describe what they were doing but that does not mean grown men were having intercourse with 12-13 year old girls. They may have, maybe some did and some didnt. We dont know. All i can really say is that if these girls were suffering it sure wasnt much. I will also add that from hearing the stories from girls interviewed it seems a lot more child modeling for rich old pervs than a brothel.
There should be no mercy for any involved.
If it were up to me everyone involved would be executed.
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once a slut always a slut
Brutal if true
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Nice bombs
She must be a freak in the sack. The prison guards and warden are probably having fun with her right now.
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The backstory as i have heard is that the girls who went to epsteins island were already child prostitutes in ukraine and to a lesser extent russia. Mostly ukraine though. Anyway they would be approached and offered a job and chance to help the family, those that agreed their family was paid and after working on the island a couple years (i have heard 15 was the end of the road for most) they would be given a million bucks cash and US passport and dropped off in florida to start a new life.
Now, i may use the term child prostitute to describe what they were doing but that does not mean grown men were having intercourse with 12-13 year old girls. They may have, maybe some did and some didnt. We dont know. All i can really say is that if these girls were suffering it sure wasnt much. I will also add that from hearing the stories from girls interviewed it seems a lot more child modeling for rich old pervs than a brothel.
Yes I read that as well, that they were already seasoned prostitutes. To be clear, I wouldn't use prostitutes that young or any prostitutes period, never have. But like I said a 17 or 18 year old has to take some of the blame in my mind and the predators aren't really pedos, scummy predator people taking advantage, yes.
When I was 17 I had a friend and lifting partner who was 15 and he was telling me how he had sex with his teacher. It didn't occur to me to think he was the victim of a pedo predator, I remember thinking he got "lucky," I guess, and that she was a stupid whore for doing it. In my mind he was already a man with a full beard (middle eastern, Christian mind you lol). I do think if it was the reverse, the girl was 15, it would be different ethically and "morally," (my personal morals) because men have a certain power over females and probably usually the male has to convince and trick the female in various ways into giving it up, the male usually is very eager. Another older friend told me how he was raped as a minor by an adult woman in the woods, but he was laughing telling the story. Maybe he thought it was wrong, but felt so right, I don't know. I see commentaries on IG for example, responding to a story of an adult woman having sex with a 17 year old male child, where most say the woman is nasty pedo, yet there are always the men who ask where were these women when they were kids in school. Some think the women deserve the woodchipper, a few think the women provided an amazing service, a dream for a teen boy.
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Yes I read that as well, that they were already seasoned prostitutes. To be clear, I wouldn't use prostitutes that young or any prostitutes period, never have. But like I said a 17 or 18 year old has to take some of the blame in my mind and the predators aren't really pedos, scummy predator people taking advantage, yes.
When I was 17 I had a friend and lifting partner who was 15 and he was telling me how he had sex with his teacher. It didn't occur to me to think he was the victim of a pedo predator, I remember thinking he got "lucky," I guess, and that she was a stupid whore for doing it. In my mind he was already a man with a full beard (middle eastern, Christian mind you lol). I do think if it was the reverse, the girl was 15, it would be different ethically and "morally," (my personal morals) because men have a certain power over females and probably usually the male has to convince and trick the female in various ways into giving it up, the male usually is very eager. Another older friend told me how he was raped as a minor by an adult woman in the woods, but he was laughing telling the story. Maybe he thought it was wrong, but felt so right, I don't know. I see commentaries on IG for example, responding to a story of an adult woman having sex with a 17 year old male child, where most say the woman is nasty pedo, yet there are always the men who ask where were these women when they were kids in school. Some think the women deserve the woodchipper, a few think the women provided an amazing service, a dream for a teen boy.
Well i was basically raped at 15 by a 25 year old chick i met doing community service. She basically preyed on me and raped me in some bushes. I was very unready for it. When she decided i wasnt worth the effort she ghosted me. Fucked me up. I recall taking the bus alone several hours each way only to knock and no answer, stopped returning pages (we had pagers and pay phones back then ha) but long story short i totally understand why people despise child predators. They are sociopaths and hurt others with no remorse.
Female adult women preying on young boys deserve to.burn as their victims will never recover. Ask me how i know.
But, we are all to blame. Think about it, who in their right minds feels compelled to educate entertain or otherwise be involved with other peoples kids? I avoid kids like the plague, its not a mystery where the pedophiles are.
Pedophiles can be identified by these three signs, a sexual preference for children, they will actively seek and engage in relationships wjth children to which they can betray their trust, they will make their homes inviting for kids (toys books movies for kids) so, if anyone who reads this has been wondering about who their kids are spending time with at school church or whatever, go inside that persons house and see for yourself.
Anyway epstein was not mossad or cia or any such thing. He was the front man for the guy that owns victoria secret. Forget his name. Basically this dude was running sex trafficking boys girls and epstein was the guy handling the money and making it happen for the hetero pedos. The guy who handled all the boys was arrested recently he founded abercrombie and fitch (with money from the victoria secret guy) so basically epstein and the abercrombie guy were doing the same job, different sides of the same coin. This is how epstein was known to be wealthy yet never had a money trail to follow. He didnt have shit of his own.
I mean it should surprise no one that the founder of victorias secret is the worlds biggest pervert. Next time think twice before you buy some lingerie from victorias secret...
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Well i was basically raped at 15 by a 25 year old chick i met doing community service. She basically preyed on me and raped me in some bushes. I was very unready for it. When she decided i wasnt worth the effort she ghosted me. Fucked me up. I recall taking the bus alone several hours each way only to knock and no answer, stopped returning pages (we had pagers and pay phones back then ha) but long story short i totally understand why people despise child predators. They are sociopaths and hurt others with no remorse.
Female adult women preying on young boys deserve to.burn as their victims will never recover. Ask me how i know.
But, we are all to blame. Think about it, who in their right minds feels compelled to educate entertain or otherwise be involved with other peoples kids? I avoid kids like the plague, its not a mystery where the pedophiles are.
But, we are all to blame. Think about it, who in their right minds feels compelled to educate entertain or otherwise be involved with other peoples kids? I avoid kids like the plague, its not a mystery where the pedophiles are.
Pedophiles can be identified by these three signs, a sexual preference for children, they will actively seek and engage in relationships wjth children to which they can betray their trust, they will make their homes inviting for kids (toys books movies for kids) so, if anyone who reads this has been wondering about who their kids are spending time with at school church or whatever, go inside that persons house and see for yourself.
That's messed up; since I haven't had these experiences I'm probably not taking the adult woman, minor boy thing seriously enough, but I can still see where it can seriously mess people up. I've felt more sympathy towards male victims who have been molested by a homosexual, when the boy isn't "naturally" one and then feels extreme shame and even thinks he maybe is a homo. I've said that if I had a son I would never leave him in the care of a homo, and probably more cautious of men in general, not that that is any guarantee against harm. I recently read about one case where a father was covering for his son who was having sex with his teacher and then he also was looking at charges. Here I don't know what to think, if he thought the boy wasn't unwilling and wasn't taken advantage of...
One interesting cultural phenomenon I read about... that US blacks generally don't allow any sleepovers for their kids even at friends' houses, too big a risk they think. No matter how well they know the other parents, even extended family, ain't happening, is what many black parents said.
Anyway epstein was not mossad or cia or any such thing. He was the front man for the guy that owns victoria secret. Forget his name. Basically this dude was running sex trafficking boys girls and epstein was the guy handling the money and making it happen for the hetero pedos. The guy who handled all the boys was arrested recently he founded abercrombie and fitch (with money from the victoria secret guy) so basically epstein and the abercrombie guy were doing the same job, different sides of the same coin. This is how epstein was known to be wealthy yet never had a money trail to follow. He didnt have shit of his own.
I mean it should surprise no one that the founder of victorias secret is the worlds biggest pervert. Next time think twice before you buy some lingerie from victorias secret...
I don't know about that man...
Wiki:
Epstein also stated to some people at the time that he was an intelligence agent.[53] During the 1980s, Epstein possessed an Austrian passport that had his photo, but with a false name. The passport showed his place of residence as Saudi Arabia.[54][55] In 2017, "a former senior White House official" reported that Alexander Acosta, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida who had handled Epstein's criminal case in 2008, had stated to interviewers of President Donald Trump's first transition team: "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to 'leave it alone'", and that Epstein was "above his pay grade".[56][57]
Rolling Stone article:
First, Epstein did visit Israel in 2008, with a view to moving there permanently and avoid his jail time in 2009 for the state charges he was convicted of. On his return, he told Russian model Kira Diktyar that he’d changed his mind and decided to face the music. (He didn’t mention he’d avoided a far more serious federal investigation, thanks to a cushy non-prosecution agreement.)
And once he got out of jail, in the last 10 years of his life, Epstein bragged to various people, including journalists, that he was advising a whole assortment of foreign leaders who included Vladimir Putin, Mohammed bin Zayed, Mohammed Bin Salman, various African dictators, Israel, the British — and, of course, the Americans.
He also told several of the same people that he was making a fortune out of arms, drugs, and diamonds.
He told one person, journalist Edward J. Epstein, that he knew the owner of the deep-water port of Djibouti on the horn of Africa, a smuggler’s paradise, so well that he was basically in charge of it.
Now, according to my sources in the intelligence world, this is hyperbole — but also not completely ridiculous. His name was mentioned as a middleman in both Africa and the Middle East. He was known in the intelligence world as a “hyper-fixer,” somebody who can go between different cultures and networks.
If many intelligence sources say he was obviously intelligence... and if all these leaders risked compromising themselves by associating with him the intelligence connection may be why they were comfortable with it. Why would Ehud Barak risk associating with Epstein if he didn't know he was connected to Israel's intelligence?
Ghislaine's father:
Then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir said at Maxwell's funeral: “He has done more for Israel than can today be said.”