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Title: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Ron on June 21, 2025, 05:58:53 PM
Three locations - boom



President Donald Trump said Saturday that the U.S. military struck three sites in Iran, directly joining Israel ’s effort to decapitate the country’s nuclear program in a risky gambit to weaken a longtime foe amid Tehran’s threat of reprisals that could spark a wider regional conflict.

“We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan,” Trump said in a post on social media. “All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home.


Title: Re: USA attack Iran with B-2 BOMBERS - 06-21-25
Post by: Never1AShow on June 21, 2025, 06:00:55 PM
Bless up
Title: Re: USA attack Iran with B-2 BOMBERS - 06-21-25
Post by: Royalty on June 21, 2025, 06:04:52 PM
Six Bunker Busters
Title: Re: USA attack Iran with B-2 BOMBERS - 06-21-25
Post by: IroNat on June 21, 2025, 06:21:12 PM
But did you win, Jimmy?  Did you win?

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Title: Re: USA attack Iran with B-2 BOMBERS - 06-21-25
Post by: chaos on June 21, 2025, 06:33:09 PM
Very disappointing.
Title: Re: USA attack Iran with B-2 BOMBERS - 06-21-25
Post by: Royalty on June 21, 2025, 06:42:04 PM
Very disappointing.

Title: Re: USA attack Iran with B-2 BOMBERS - 06-21-25
Post by: Ron on June 21, 2025, 08:35:53 PM
Trump's speech to the world AFTER the bombs went down on Iran's nuclear bases....


"Thank you very much. A short time ago, the U.S. military carried out massive, precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities in the Iranian regime. Fordo, Natanz and Esfahan. Everybody heard those names for years as they built this horribly destructive enterprise.  Our objective was the destruction of Iran’s nuclear enrichment capacity and a stop to the nuclear threat posed by the world’s number one state sponsor of terror. Tonight, I can report to the world that the strikes were a spectacular military success. Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated. Iran, the bully of the Middle East, must now make peace. If they do not. Future attacks would be far greater and a lot easier.

For 40 years, Iran has been saying. Death to America, death to Israel. They have been killing our people, blowing off their arms, blowing off their legs, with roadside bombs. That was their specialty. We lost over 1,000 people and hundreds of thousands throughout the Middle East, and around the world have died as a direct result of their hate in particular. So many were killed by their general, Qassim Soleimani. I decided a long time ago that I would not let this happen. It will not continue.

I want to thank and congratulate Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu. We worked as a team like perhaps no team has ever worked before, and we’ve gone a long way to erasing this horrible threat to Israel. I want to thank the Israeli military for the wonderful job they’ve done. And most importantly, I want to congratulate the great American patriots who flew those magnificent machines tonight, and all of the United States military on an operation the likes of which the world has not seen in many, many decades. Hopefully, we will no longer need their services in this capacity. I hope that’s so. I also want to congratulate the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan ‘Razin’ Caine, spectacular general, and all of the brilliant military minds involved in this attack.

With all of that being said, this cannot continue. There will be either peace, or there will be tragedy for Iran, far greater than we have witnessed over the last eight days. Remember, there are many targets left. Tonight’s was the most difficult of them all, by far, and perhaps the most lethal. But if peace does not come quickly, we will go after those other targets with precision, speed and skill. Most of them can be taken out in a matter of minutes. There’s no military in the world that could have done what we did tonight. Not even close. There has never been a military that could do what took place just a little while ago.

Tomorrow, General Caine, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth will have a press conference at 8 a.m. at the Pentagon. And I want to just thank everybody. And, in particular, God. I want to just say, we love you, God, and we love our great military. Protect them. God bless the Middle East. God bless Israel and God bless America. Thank you very much. Thank you."
Title: Re: USA attack Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: loco on June 21, 2025, 08:47:31 PM
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Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 22, 2025, 12:44:35 AM
Iran is pretty much done now without the threat of nukes.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: SF1900 on June 22, 2025, 12:53:15 AM
I thought one of trumps goals was to stay out of foreign affairs?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 22, 2025, 03:45:20 AM
Iran is pretty much done now without the threat of nukes.

yep and all there air defence systems where russian supplied and they all got destroyed just goes to show why russia cant take ukraine.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Donny on June 22, 2025, 04:35:55 AM
Three locations - boom



President Donald Trump said Saturday that the U.S. military struck three sites in Iran, directly joining Israel ’s effort to decapitate the country’s nuclear program in a risky gambit to weaken a longtime foe amid Tehran’s threat of reprisals that could spark a wider regional conflict.

“We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan,” Trump said in a post on social media. “All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home.
Will the US take in refugees or will Europe bear the brunt of it ?

[The U.S. has previously welcomed people who became displaced during American military interventions, including after the Vietnam War and Operation Desert Storm. But there's little reason to believe that the Trump administration would welcome displaced Iranians to the United States (for one, the White House earlier this month barred the vast majority of Iranian nationals from entering the country).

Just curious 🤔
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: loco on June 22, 2025, 04:37:25 AM
I thought one of trumps goals was to stay out of foreign affairs?

Trump tried negotiating with Putin to end the Ukraine invasion.  Putin played games and didn't listen.  Russia's military is spread thin.

Then Syria fell and this weakened Russia.

It made sense to go after Iran now more than ever, and thus further weaken Russia.  If it wasn't for the Russian invasion, Israel and US attacking Iran wouldn't have happened now.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: loco on June 22, 2025, 04:39:03 AM
Will the US take in refugees or will Europe bear the brunt of it ?

Will you, Donny?

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Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: joswift on June 22, 2025, 04:39:08 AM
how the media portrays Iran vs the reality
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Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Donny on June 22, 2025, 04:46:22 AM
Will you, Donny?

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Any of these babes.. yes 😃
But there's a lot of Afghans fleeing Iran & some being deported..Turkey will let them & Iranians flood Europe.
The Boat is full in Europe. 
Trump must take some responsibility if there's a flood.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: GymnJuice on June 22, 2025, 04:50:51 AM
I think the world in general is better off if Iran doesn't have nukes. I don't think the US unilaterally bombing Iran at the request of Israel is going to make American lives better in the short or long term.

So, this is great news for Israel. But I don't know if this was a good move for the US to make.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Never1AShow on June 22, 2025, 05:52:52 AM
Iran is pretty much done now without the threat of nukes.

50 fucking years of their terrorist bullshit finally coming to an end, no jewish person should ever vote Democrat again
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: joswift on June 22, 2025, 05:53:50 AM
50 fucking years of their terrorist bullshit finally coming to an end, no jewish person should ever vote Democrat again

how many times has Iran initiated terrorist attcks on foreign soil?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 22, 2025, 08:03:41 AM
i always get a chuckle by some of the clowns on this board that actually think russia is going to help iran, they cant even take ukraine. there military is a joke
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Dave D on June 22, 2025, 08:19:10 AM
I thought one of trumps goals was to stay out of foreign affairs?

This is correct.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Never1AShow on June 22, 2025, 08:25:46 AM
how many times has Iran initiated terrorist attcks on foreign soil?

Hundreds at least
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: joswift on June 22, 2025, 08:41:29 AM
Hundreds at least

most of them are listed as by groups "tied to Iran"

seems like they fund rather than attack
the uk just sent £50 million to the group that overthrew Assad , they were former al Qaeda members


Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 22, 2025, 08:48:27 AM
"Iran's nuclear program has been obliterated! Victory achieved!"

Iran claims that especially the most advanced centrifuges have been removed from Fordow. As well as all nuclear material, all data, obviously all personnel evacuated. Think! What is the problem now? Obviously, as the MSM is saying, where is all the nuclear material?! One paper says a nuke requires as little as 20kg of highly enriched uranium. IAEA has said they found traces of 83% uranium in, I think, Fordow. Are the Iranians really so stupid they would have stored everything right at Fordow, especially when they got really advanced warning that this was going to happen, the B-2 bombers were moved to that island a long time ago. Now Iran really does have reason to make a nuke, the material is most likely already finished, what's to say they couldn't weaponize it elsewhere, Iran is a huge country. I don't know what will happen, but the US and Israel ARE worried, they aren't all relaxed now.

"This is great news for Israel!"

Really?! You have got to be kidding! I don't even know what to say to this, it's so monumentally stupid. Israelis are fleeing through Egypt and Jordan right now, because Israel doesn't allow Israelis to leave through air, they can arrive through air though lol.

i always get a chuckle by some of the clowns on this board that actually think russia is going to help iran, they cant even take ukraine. there military is a joke

At least I didn't say that. But Putin just mocked someone for asking if Russia would go fight. Obviously they are not, Putin doesn't want to start WWIII. He is a moderate and very cautious, unlike Trump.

Putin has warned that attacking nuclear sites could cause a bigger disaster that Chernobyl, and they built one site, so they know.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: chaos on June 22, 2025, 08:49:24 AM
I thought one of trumps goals was to stay out of foreign affairs?

It was to stay out of new wars and like a typical politician he lied to appease Israel. I wish Wiggs people would run the fake jews out and take their righteous place in the Holy land. :D
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2025, 08:53:15 AM
He had no choice. This isn’t a war. We took out their nuclear facilities. So far the hit caused no injuries or deaths and there was no plan for regime change but I would imagine we might take out the ayatollah at some point
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 22, 2025, 08:59:06 AM
Saudi Arabia and UN said there are no elevated levels of radioactivity near the sites. I’m assuming that means they didn’t bomb deep enough or does it mean there was nothing actually there?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 22, 2025, 09:00:35 AM
It was to stay out of new wars and like a typical politician he lied to appease isreal. I wish Wiggs people would run the fake jews out and take their righteous place in the Holy land. :D

Have you changed your stance on Trump, Israel, politics in general or adjacent issues, over time?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: joswift on June 22, 2025, 09:08:09 AM
He had no choice. This isn’t a war. We took out their nuclear facilities. So far the hit caused no injuries or deaths and there was no plan for regime change but I would imagine we might take out the ayatollah at some point

the ones where they have been weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon for the last 40 years?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: chaos on June 22, 2025, 09:10:56 AM
Have you changed your stance on Trump, Israel, politics in general or adjacent issues, over time?

Not too much, still support Trump even though I disagree with getting us involved in overseas conflicts. I think Israel and the issues that revolve around Israel have taken the spotlight in the media and of course the media blows everything up as dramatic as it can.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Royalty on June 22, 2025, 09:14:02 AM
We all knew 2-3 weeks ago when Iran hinted at attacking US bases, that things were gonna get messy
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2025, 09:23:18 AM
Saudi Arabia and UN said there are no elevated levels of radioactivity near the sites. I’m assuming that means they didn’t bomb deep enough or does it mean there was nothing actually there?

There were…

In the past, international inspectors were allowed to inspect Iran’s nuclear facilities under specific agreements. The most notable framework was the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), signed in 2015 between Iran and the P5+1 (United States, United Kingdom, France, Russia, China, and Germany).

The JCPOA allowed inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to monitor Iran’s nuclear program to ensure compliance with restrictions on uranium enrichment and other nuclear activities. The IAEA conducted regular inspections of declared nuclear sites, including facilities like Natanz and Fordow, and had access to a robust verification regime, including the use of advanced monitoring technologies.
However, the level of access and cooperation varied over time.

 Before the JCPOA, Iran’s cooperation with IAEA inspections was inconsistent, with periods of restricted access and disputes over undeclared sites. After the U.S. withdrew from the JCPOA in 2018 and Iran began reducing its commitments under the deal in 2019, access for inspectors was further limited. By 2021, Iran restricted IAEA monitoring, including access to surveillance data and certain sites, amid stalled negotiations to revive the JCPOA.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Never1AShow on June 22, 2025, 09:29:23 AM
most of them are listed as by groups "tied to Iran"

seems like they fund rather than attack
the uk just sent £50 million to the group that overthrew Assad , they were former al Qaeda members

I may not know exactly who farted on the plane in each instance, but I think it was several of a group and I’m fine with that level of knowing what’s been going on.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: IroNat on June 22, 2025, 09:32:46 AM
He had no choice. This isn’t a war. We took out their nuclear facilities. So far the hit caused no injuries or deaths and there was no plan for regime change but I would imagine we might take out the ayatollah at some point

Not confirmed except by Trump.

Iranians claim minimal damage.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2025, 09:35:51 AM
Not confirmed except by Trump.

Iranians claim minimal damage.

"Iranians claim"

6 bunker busters, 30 tomahawks and a MOAB.......now think about that.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Never1AShow on June 22, 2025, 09:36:32 AM
This is the line the Left is going with?  It didn’t work?  Hahahaha. Yeah 12 MOPs missed
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 22, 2025, 09:40:22 AM
"Iranians claim"

6 bunker busters, 30 tomahawks and a MOAB.......now think about that.

6 planes, 12  bunker buster I think. Still sucess is probably not guaranteed due to uncertainty on how Fordow was built. Would love to see live video, everyone loves explosions.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2025, 09:41:53 AM
6 planes, 12  bunker buster I think. Still sucess is probably not guaranteed due to uncertainty on how Fordow was built. Would love to see live video, everyone loves explosions.

Assessments will be interesting
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: IroNat on June 22, 2025, 09:43:09 AM
"Iranians claim"

6 bunker busters, 30 tomahawks and a MOAB.......now think about that.

Maximum MOP penetration depth under ideal circumstances = 200 feet

Depth of Fordow facility = 300 feet
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: IroNat on June 22, 2025, 09:45:45 AM
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2025, 09:57:11 AM
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Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Donny on June 22, 2025, 10:00:11 AM

Rag Head of Peace  ;D
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: IroNat on June 22, 2025, 10:06:13 AM
Iran has begun preparing to close the Strait of Hormuz in a move that would throw global oil and gas markets into chaos.

Officials admitted that it is 'way too early' to say whether Iran still retains some nuclear capabilities, with sources saying the deep underground Fordow site was not entirely destroyed in the operation.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14834579/US-moves-B2-stealth-bombers-Israel-Iran-live-updates.html
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: IroNat on June 22, 2025, 10:10:49 AM
Better fill your gas tank now!

>

Iranian parliament has approved the closure of the Strait of Hormuz in a move which could see the world thrown into disaster.

The decision to close the Strait, through which around 20 per cent of global oil and gas demand flows, is not yet final.

Iran's Supreme National Security Council must still make the final call on the matter, Iran's Press TV said today.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14836175/Iranian-government-SHUT-Strait-Hormuz-closing-20-cent-global-oil-gas.html
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Never1AShow on June 22, 2025, 10:12:45 AM
Maximum MOP penetration depth under ideal circumstances = 200 feet

Depth of Fordow facility = 300 feet

200+200=400. Math, look into it
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 22, 2025, 10:19:12 AM
i am not worried about gas we produce enough , here, if they try to close that straight they are going to have to deal with the u.s navy wont well for them.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Dave D on June 22, 2025, 10:48:32 AM
He had no choice. This isn’t a war. We took out their nuclear facilities. So far the hit caused no injuries or deaths and there was no plan for regime change but I would imagine we might take out the ayatollah at some point

There were no deaths? Did we hit empty buildings?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: IroNat on June 22, 2025, 10:50:23 AM
200+200=400. Math, look into it

Uhm...it doesn't work like that.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2025, 10:52:53 AM
There were no deaths? Did we hit empty buildings?

Pretty sure Trump gave them warnings weeks in advance. They knew it was coming it was just a matter of when I'm assuming.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on June 22, 2025, 10:53:31 AM
6 planes, 12  bunker buster I think. Still sucess is probably not guaranteed due to uncertainty on how Fordow was built. Would love to see live video, everyone loves explosions.

Seven

https://www.twz.com/air/b-2-strikes-on-iran-what-we-know-about-operation-midnight-hammer
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Donny on June 22, 2025, 11:02:53 AM
Pretty sure Trump gave them warnings weeks in advance. They knew it was coming it was just a matter of when I'm assuming.
If they got so much warning don't you think they'd take steps to remove anything important?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2025, 11:07:15 AM
If they got so much warning don't you think they'd take steps to remove anything important?

How do you remove a nuclear site?

https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1936763790244131188?s=46
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 22, 2025, 11:10:31 AM
There were no deaths? Did we hit empty buildings?

Red Crescent reported only injuries no deaths.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Donny on June 22, 2025, 11:14:52 AM
How do you remove a nuclear site?

https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1936763790244131188?s=46
I'm no expert & neither are you, I doubt they just waited , sitting around with their finger up their arses.
Material of sort & equipment was no doubt moved to somewhere safe.
Aside from that their scientific staff would be kept safe.
They'll start again
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 22, 2025, 11:17:35 AM
i am not worried about gas we produce enough , here, if they try to close that straight they are going to have to deal with the u.s navy wont well for them.

Won't end well for them, probably... but what an absolute clusterfuck. Thinking this this will be short affair is lunacy. Even if the Iranians will be destoyed inmagine how long it will take until ships can sail freely through there.

If US gas prices are affected average folk will lose their minds very quickly. You Americans have been crying about gas prices here on getbig as it is.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2025, 11:27:26 AM
I'm no expert & neither are you, I doubt they just waited , sitting around with their finger up their arses.
Material of sort & equipment was no doubt moved to somewhere safe.
Aside from that their scientific staff would be kept safe.
They'll start again

I’m absolutely not an expert but I would assume we have some sort of satellite surveillance that can monitor movement on the ground from those facilities, no?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Donny on June 22, 2025, 11:36:37 AM
I’m absolutely not an expert but I would assume we have some sort of satellite surveillance that can monitor movement on the ground from those facilities, no?
I would've thought they'd have a back up plan if this happened.  We're talking serious money & years of research..must have thought about it & had a step up.
You know when a Division HQ is taken out there's always a " step up" where a duplicate HQ is ready for the Staff Officers to immediately move into & continue.
I'm assuming they'd think like this
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Necrosis on June 22, 2025, 11:42:32 AM
He had no choice. This isn’t a war. We took out their nuclear facilities. So far the hit caused no injuries or deaths and there was no plan for regime change but I would imagine we might take out the ayatollah at some point

LOL

This isn't a war we told Iran we are just bombing your nuclear facilities, don't retaliate! Retarded spin hahaha.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Necrosis on June 22, 2025, 11:45:32 AM
Tulsi Gabbard indicates there is zero credible evidence for nuclear sites even close to a nuke, Trump says she is wrong cus of course the reality tv host who can't actually read knows more.

Israel has been saying they are a week away from bombs since the 80s it seems.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: joswift on June 22, 2025, 11:47:37 AM
Tulsi Gabbard indicates there is zero credible evidence for nuclear sites even close to a nuke, Trump says she is wrong cus of course the reality tv host who can't actually read knows more.

Israel has been saying they are a week away from bombs since the 80s it seems.

yep WMDs all over again
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: IroNat on June 22, 2025, 11:57:42 AM
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Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: J. Richards on June 22, 2025, 11:59:33 AM
I’m absolutely not an expert but I would assume we have some sort of satellite surveillance that can monitor movement on the ground from those facilities, no?

of course... and that was most likely in the plan...  take some of your stuff.... we'll track that and get it in a bit...  but for now we'll take out the big facilities.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2025, 12:01:40 PM
Tulsi Gabbard indicates there is zero credible evidence for nuclear sites even close to a nuke, Trump says she is wrong cus of course the reality tv host who can't actually read knows more.

Israel has been saying they are a week away from bombs since the 80s it seems.

Christ, that’s not what she said. Honest to God it’s so fucking irritating how dumb liberals are

https://x.com/dnigabbard/status/1936174674595008517?s=46
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Dave D on June 22, 2025, 12:14:43 PM
How do you remove a nuclear site?

https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1936763790244131188?s=46

This. What’s interesting is if Iran did clear out the facilities where are they storing the bombs and nuclear materials?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: obsidian on June 22, 2025, 12:39:15 PM
How do you remove a nuclear site?

https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1936763790244131188?s=46
You remove the enriched nuclear material. It does not take up a lot of space, a suitcase or two. Trump is of course boasting and we don't know what's real or not. Trump's been all over the place. We're not going to bomb you, oh wait, we are. No more wars, oh wait, let's bomb Iran on behalf of Israel. But it's not war. Trump is a huge disappointment. I voted for him but he appears to be another Zionist puppet. Very predictable.

Unfortunately Harris would have been no better, possibly worse. DC is captured by the Uni-War Party. There is no difference on the big military industrial complex issues between the Republicans and Democrats. They are all pro-Israel, no matter what Israel does. The British should have never created Israel in the first place. Ashkenazi Jews are originally from the Khazarian Empire regions and converted to Judaism shortly after Islam's founding. Some consider them another Turkish tribe. So why insert them artificially in the Middle-East less than 80 years ago? The problem is not going to be resolved and Israel has alienated many in the region. It will get worse I suspect.

Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: chaos on June 22, 2025, 12:40:54 PM

Israel has been saying they are a week away from bombs since the 80s it seems.

This is my issue. Israel has been playing the victim since it was created. Seems like my entire life I've heard of Iran or Palestine or (insert random country/"terrorist organization here") was going to destroy Israel any day now. We've spent billions of our tax dollars protecting them. Why?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: obsidian on June 22, 2025, 12:58:17 PM
"Iranians claim"

6 bunker busters, 30 tomahawks and a MOAB.......now think about that.
I read that the facilities were deeper than 300 feet underground and as mentioned contained big gravel block filling to divert the incoming projectiles. Who knows. Iran might say they were destroyed just to mislead / trick the US.

Medvedev thinks these bombings were pointless:

https://x.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1936725544017567860

The former Russian president questioned the effectiveness of the US operation, saying it had failed to achieve any substantial military objectives. "Critical infrastructure of the nuclear fuel cycle appears to have been unaffected or sustained only minor damage," he wrote. "The enrichment of nuclear material - and now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons - will continue."

Mr Medvedev claimed that "a number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads." He did not identify which nations he was referring to.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: IroNat on June 22, 2025, 01:01:05 PM
US general Dan Caine said “it would be way too early for me to comment on what may or may not still be there.”

https://www.breitbart.com/news/us-says-strikes-devastated-irans-nuclear-program/
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: obsidian on June 22, 2025, 01:01:42 PM
This is my issue. Isreal has been playing the victim since it was created. Seems like my entire life I've heard of Iran or Palestine or (insert random country/"terrorist organization here") was going to destroy Isreal any day now. We've spent billions of our tax dollars protecting them. Why?

Same here. The US has a history of lying: Gulf of Tonkin, USS Liberty, Iraq's WMD, JFK assassination. Some include 911 and Pearl Harbor in that as well. The list goes on, which is why Putin has referred to the US as the Empire of Lies. Israel lies just as much as the US. I guess the two were made for each other.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: obsidian on June 22, 2025, 01:07:17 PM
This. What’s interesting is if Iran did clear out the facilities where are they storing the bombs and nuclear materials?
You're assuming they have nuclear bombs. I doubt it. The easiest way for Iran to have prevented Israel and US' attacks were to test nukes somewhere in the desert and release it to the media. Then it would have been pointless to attack Iran because they would have already had nukes. But now they will probably get nukes. These attacks on Iran is guaranteed to motivate them towards that goal. And there may be a few nations willing to help speed it up.

Where will they store it? The country is big, there could be facilities that the US does not know about. Nuclear warheads don't take up a lot of space, but you need to know how to handle it. Ever heard of the Demon Core?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_core

The demon core was a sphere of plutonium that was involved in two fatal radiation accidents when scientists tested it as a fissile core of an early atomic bomb. It was manufactured in 1945 by the Manhattan Project, the U.S. nuclear weapon development effort during World War II. It was a subcritical mass that weighed 6.2 kilograms (14 lb) and was 8.9 centimeters (3.5 in) in diameter. The core was prepared for shipment to the Pacific Theater as part of the third nuclear weapon to be dropped on Japan, but when Japan surrendered, the core was retained for testing and potential later use in the case of another conflict.

The two criticality accidents occurred at the Los Alamos Laboratory in New Mexico on August 21, 1945, and May 21, 1946. In both cases, an experiment was intended to demonstrate how close the core was to criticality, using a neutron-reflective tamper (layer of dense material surrounding the fissile material). In both accidents, the core was accidentally put into a critical configuration. Physicists Harry Daghlian (in the first accident) and Louis Slotin (in the second accident) both suffered acute radiation syndrome and died shortly afterward. At the same time, others present in the laboratory were also exposed. The core was melted down during the summer of 1946, and the material was recycled for use in other cores.


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Partially-reflected-plutonium-sphere.jpeg/500px-Partially-reflected-plutonium-sphere.jpeg)
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on June 22, 2025, 01:13:17 PM
This is my issue. Isreal has been playing the victim since it was created. Seems like my entire life I've heard of Iran or Palestine or (insert random country/"terrorist organization here") was going to destroy Isreal any day now. We've spent billions of our tax dollars protecting them. Why?


Israel always buys American made weapons with that money. So ultimately it ends up at Boeing or Lockheed Martin.

Did you really think Iran would stop at building just one nuke? The ayatollahs have stated they want to destroy the USA, not only Israel. Once they have sufficient numbers of nukes and ballistic missiles they have that opportunity. You simply cannot afford the risk.

Israel is doing most of the dirty work. The hatred of fundamentalist islam is against the entire Western world. Everyone of us is a target for their terrorists
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: obsidian on June 22, 2025, 01:21:46 PM
The ayatollahs have stated they want to destroy the USA, not only Israel.
Source?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Dave D on June 22, 2025, 01:40:34 PM
You're assuming they have nuclear bombs. I doubt it. The easiest way for Iran to have prevented Israel and US' attacks were to test nukes somewhere in the desert and release it to the media. Then it would have been pointless to attack Iran because they would have already had nukes. But now they will probably get nukes. These attacks on Iran is guaranteed to motivate them towards that goal. And there may be a few nations willing to help speed it up.

Where will they store it? The country is big, there could be facilities that the US does not know about. Nuclear warheads don't take up a lot of space, but you need to know how to handle it. Ever heard of the Demon Core?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_core

The demon core was a sphere of plutonium that was involved in two fatal radiation accidents when scientists tested it as a fissile core of an early atomic bomb. It was manufactured in 1945 by the Manhattan Project, the U.S. nuclear weapon development effort during World War II. It was a subcritical mass that weighed 6.2 kilograms (14 lb) and was 8.9 centimeters (3.5 in) in diameter. The core was prepared for shipment to the Pacific Theater as part of the third nuclear weapon to be dropped on Japan, but when Japan surrendered, the core was retained for testing and potential later use in the case of another conflict.

The two criticality accidents occurred at the Los Alamos Laboratory in New Mexico on August 21, 1945, and May 21, 1946. In both cases, an experiment was intended to demonstrate how close the core was to criticality, using a neutron-reflective tamper (layer of dense material surrounding the fissile material). In both accidents, the core was accidentally put into a critical configuration. Physicists Harry Daghlian (in the first accident) and Louis Slotin (in the second accident) both suffered acute radiation syndrome and died shortly afterward. At the same time, others present in the laboratory were also exposed. The core was melted down during the summer of 1946, and the material was recycled for use in other cores.


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Partially-reflected-plutonium-sphere.jpeg/500px-Partially-reflected-plutonium-sphere.jpeg)

Yeah I am assuming the alleged nuclear facilities were creating the bombs or at least contained the material to manufacture them. Building on that idea the materials aren’t something you would easily ship and store. I would assume every country has separate undocumented facilities.

What should be believed? No one really knows.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: _bruce_ on June 22, 2025, 01:42:34 PM

Israel always buys American made weapons with that money. So ultimately it ends up at Boeing or Lockheed Martin.

Did you really think Iran would stop at building just one nuke? The ayatollahs have stated they want to destroy the USA, not only Israel. Once they have sufficient numbers of nukes and ballistic missiles they have that opportunity.
You simpy cannot afford the risk.

Israel is doing most of the dirty work. The hatred of fundamentalist islam is against the entire Western world. Everyone of us is a target for their terrorists

Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 22, 2025, 02:36:55 PM

The ayatollahs have stated they want to destroy the USA, not only Israel. Once they have sufficient numbers of nukes and ballistic missiles they have that opportunity.
You simpy cannot afford the risk.

Israel is doing most of the dirty work. The hatred of fundamentalist islam is against the entire Western world. Everyone of us is a target for their terrorists

The issue Iran has is that the US have made them enemies, they overthrew the "democratic" government and installed the shah, in like early 1950s. It was over oil I believe. Now Iran has a problem with Israel because of their oppression of the Palestinians. Stop the oppression and do the two state solution and Iran won't feel a need to fund "terrorist" groups. The US and Israel calling others terrorists is really rich, it laughable in the extreme. When Iran retaliates against Israel's aggression and someone dies, Israel is then talking about them crossing red lines; it's so disgusting when Israel has expressly targeted women and children in their ethnic cleansing. Disgusting in the extreme, cartoonishly evil. Israel and the US are the terrorists and belligerents. And I'm no fan of Muslims and Iranians but anyone can see the double standards at play. I'm sure Iran would like better relations with the US actually. It's the Sunni extremists who have fought the US but now they are America's friends. Trump heaps praise on Al-Sharaa after he's killed Americans in Iraq as an Al-Qaeda fighter. Make it make sense ::) Your points are just the usual Zionist lies, "Muslims hate everyone and want to kill our children." Just now US politicians are worried about Iranian sleeper cells in the US, but when did Iran commit terror in the US? It's the US who is the aggressor towards countries thousands of miles away, on the other side of the world. What gives them the right?

I assume you are Jewish. I'd really like to know who is Jewish here. Because most of the ones loving this Iran war are Jewish. I get it, it's natural, you are loyal to your ethnicity. But it underscores the so called anti-semitic conspiracy theory that Jews can't be loyal to a country, they are firstly loyal to their ethnicity. "Is this good for the Jews?" is always the first consideration in any matter. Are shut borders good for the Jews? No? Ok, let's do everything possible to undermine a country staying ethnically homogenous. Just as an example.

This bombing has little do with nuclear bombs, it's about Zionist hegemony over the middle east, and ultimately the whole world. The US is a Zionist Occupied Government. Ultimately zionists would like to rule the world with a headquarters and world court in Jerusalem :D Trump has made deals with Zionist owned Palantir, to track all the citizens of the US; Palantir's programs are already used in basically all targeting intelligence of the US forces and now in Iran. It's a f-ing nightmare :D
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: SF1900 on June 22, 2025, 03:46:43 PM
Will Russia get involved?

Russia said Sunday that it "strongly condemned" the United States's bombings of nuclear sites in Iran, calling the attacks "irresponsible" and a "gross violation of international law."

"It is already clear that a dangerous escalation has begun, fraught with further undermining of regional and global security," the Russian Foreign ministry added in a statement
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: B_B_C on June 22, 2025, 04:10:32 PM


"It is already clear that a dangerous escalation has begun, fraught with further undermining of regional and global security," the Russian Foreign ministry added in a statement

marvelous sense of irony
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Kwon on June 22, 2025, 04:20:15 PM
Source?

The Ayatollahs.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2025, 04:31:20 PM
Here’s the thing about saying that they have no nuclear bombs or weapons and I’ll post it up again in case some of you didn’t read it or want to read it. They shouldn’t have nuclear capabilities at all seeing how they threaten us and the Middle East regions.

Also, Iran for decades has been chanting “Death to America” “Death to Israel” and are a direct threat to both countries. In the past, before Trump, Obama, Clinton and many other Dems have said the same things Trump has been saying for the last 10 years and not much different. The difference is Trump had the balls to do something about it. I was actually blown away today when even Van Jones agreed with the decision to go in.

You have to ask yourself that if there were not anything nefarious why would Iran restrict monitoring and surveillance?

In the past, international inspectors were allowed to inspect Iran’s nuclear facilities under specific agreements. The most notable framework was the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), signed in 2015 between Iran and the P5+1 (United States, United Kingdom, France, Russia, China, and Germany).

The JCPOA allowed inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to monitor Iran’s nuclear program to ensure compliance with restrictions on uranium enrichment and other nuclear activities. The IAEA conducted regular inspections of declared nuclear sites, including facilities like Natanz and Fordow, and had access to a robust verification regime, including the use of advanced monitoring technologies.

However, the level of access and cooperation varied over time. Before the JCPOA, Iran’s cooperation with IAEA inspections was inconsistent, with periods of restricted access and disputes over undeclared sites. After the U.S. withdrew from the JCPOA in 2018 and Iran began reducing its commitments under the deal in 2019, access for inspectors was further limited. By 2021, Iran restricted IAEA monitoring, including access to surveillance data and certain sites, amid stalled negotiations to revive the JCPOA.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Rambone on June 22, 2025, 04:55:43 PM
Promise made. Promise broken. No new wars my ass. Iran has been 2 weeks away from building a nuclear bomb for 3 decades. Sick of this shit. USA = Israel’s bitch
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: IroNat on June 22, 2025, 05:01:22 PM
Promise made. Promise broken. No new wars my ass. Iran has been 2 weeks away from building a nuclear bomb for 3 decades. Sick of this shit. USA = Israel’s bitch

It's not war on Iran, it's a war on nuke facilities.

The facilities just happen by chance to be in Iran.

 :D
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Necrosis on June 22, 2025, 05:04:50 PM
Christ, that’s not what she said. Honest to God it’s so fucking irritating how dumb liberals are

https://x.com/dnigabbard/status/1936174674595008517?s=46

She said " iran is not building a nuclear weapon and has their nuclear program suspended sinces 2013" she goes on the say the are enriching uranium (not to weapons grade mind you) at levels not seen in non nuclear state.

Joe, I am infinitely smarter than you, I doubt we could actually have a conversation in real life. You have inchoate parochial views and cannot handle complexity, paraconsistency or think in a manner that isn't binary. Rhizomatic thought eludes you.

She is trying to save face probably to get in line.

Can you point to where she said they have a nuclear program and capabilities of a bomb?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Dave D on June 22, 2025, 05:06:42 PM
Here’s the thing about saying that they have no nuclear bombs or weapons and I’ll post it up again in case some of you didn’t read it or want to read it. They shouldn’t have nuclear capabilities at all seeing how they threaten us and the Middle East regions.

Also, Iran for decades has been chanting “Death to America” “Death to Israel” and are a direct threat to both countries. In the past, before Trump, Obama, Clinton and many other Dems have said the same things Trump has been saying for the last 10 years and not much different. The difference is Trump had the balls to do something about it. I was actually blown away today when even Van Jones agreed with the decision to go in.

You have to ask yourself that if there were not anything nefarious why would Iran restrict monitoring and surveillance?

In the past, international inspectors were allowed to inspect Iran’s nuclear facilities under specific agreements. The most notable framework was the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), signed in 2015 between Iran and the P5+1 (United States, United Kingdom, France, Russia, China, and Germany).

The JCPOA allowed inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to monitor Iran’s nuclear program to ensure compliance with restrictions on uranium enrichment and other nuclear activities. The IAEA conducted regular inspections of declared nuclear sites, including facilities like Natanz and Fordow, and had access to a robust verification regime, including the use of advanced monitoring technologies.

However, the level of access and cooperation varied over time. Before the JCPOA, Iran’s cooperation with IAEA inspections was inconsistent, with periods of restricted access and disputes over undeclared sites. After the U.S. withdrew from the JCPOA in 2018 and Iran began reducing its commitments under the deal in 2019, access for inspectors was further limited. By 2021, Iran restricted IAEA monitoring, including access to surveillance data and certain sites, amid stalled negotiations to revive the JCPOA.

Im not trying to be argumentative but when say You have to ask yourself that if there were not anything nefarious why would Iran restrict monitoring and surveillance? I will ask why do we think Iran owes anyone the opportunity to come and inspect their country and their facilities?

They are a sovereign nation.

Comments like that sound like the people who think illegal immigrants have a right to be in the US.

I don’t support Iran having nuclear weapons btw.

Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: IroNat on June 22, 2025, 05:11:24 PM
Im not trying to be argumentative but when say You have to ask yourself that if there were not anything nefarious why would Iran restrict monitoring and surveillance? I will ask why do we think Iran owes anyone the opportunity to come and inspect their country and their facilities?

They are a sovereign nation.

Comments like that sound like the people who think illegal immigrants have a right to be in the US.

I don’t support Iran having nuclear weapons btw.



Excellent points.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 22, 2025, 05:23:31 PM
Im not trying to be argumentative but when say You have to ask yourself that if there were not anything nefarious why would Iran restrict monitoring and surveillance? I will ask why do we think Iran owes anyone the opportunity to come and inspect their country and their facilities?

They are a sovereign nation.

Comments like that sound like the people who think illegal immigrants have a right to be in the US.

I don’t support Iran having nuclear weapons btw.


I don’t like Iran and don’t think they should have nukes, but anyone that doesn’t see why a sovereign nation wouldn’t want people in their country poking around is retarded. It’s the same as letting the cops search your house and saying “well I got nothing to hide so it’s cool if they come in”.


Other side of this whole thing is that they had 60% enriched uranium that is well above what is needed for non weapons purposes, and very close to being able to further enrich to weapons grade. I hate that we had to do what we just did, but it did need to happen. Hopefully it deescalates soon and we come to a resolution that doesn’t involve our troops.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Royalty on June 22, 2025, 05:47:54 PM

I don’t like Iran and don’t think they should have nukes, but anyone that doesn’t see why a sovereign nation wouldn’t want people in their country poking around is retarded. It’s the same as letting the cops search your house and saying “well I got nothing to hide so it’s cool if they come in”.


Other side of this whole thing is that they had 60% enriched uranium that is well above what is needed for non weapons purposes, and very close to being able to further enrich to weapons grade. I hate that we had to do what we just did, but it did need to happen. Hopefully it deescalates soon and we come to a resolution that doesn’t involve our troops.

The minute that Iran mentioned attacking US bases they lost their happy-go-lucky “I’ve got nothing to hide” position.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 22, 2025, 05:58:09 PM
The minute that Iran mentioned attacking US bases they lost their happy-go-lucky “I’ve got nothing to hide” position.

If they do that I beleive there are two navy strike units there now or will be if Iran attacks any u.s bases the u.s is gonna unleash shit they have never seen or dealt with
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Hulkotron on June 22, 2025, 06:03:33 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/svrmbSFK/6772-10-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SXps5TKt)
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Bevo on June 22, 2025, 06:32:19 PM
In the words of Sean Strickland

Israel says “Jump”

Trump says “how high?”

Dumb fucks billionaire adelson and AIPAC made sure to line Trump, Rubio, Cruz’s pockets nice and fat
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Donny on June 22, 2025, 08:25:03 PM
Here’s the thing about saying that they have no nuclear bombs or weapons and I’ll post it up again in case some of you didn’t read it or want to read it. They shouldn’t have nuclear capabilities at all seeing how they threaten us and the Middle East regions.

Also, Iran for decades has been chanting “Death to America” “Death to Israel” and are a direct threat to both countries. In the past, before Trump, Obama, Clinton and many other Dems have said the same things Trump has been saying for the last 10 years and not much different. The difference is Trump had the balls to do something about it. I was actually blown away today when even Van Jones agreed with the decision to go in.

You have to ask yourself that if there were not anything nefarious why would Iran restrict monitoring and surveillance?

In the past, international inspectors were allowed to inspect Iran’s nuclear facilities under specific agreements. The most notable framework was the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), signed in 2015 between Iran and the P5+1 (United States, United Kingdom, France, Russia, China, and Germany).

The JCPOA allowed inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to monitor Iran’s nuclear program to ensure compliance with restrictions on uranium enrichment and other nuclear activities. The IAEA conducted regular inspections of declared nuclear sites, including facilities like Natanz and Fordow, and had access to a robust verification regime, including the use of advanced monitoring technologies.

However, the level of access and cooperation varied over time. Before the JCPOA, Iran’s cooperation with IAEA inspections was inconsistent, with periods of restricted access and disputes over undeclared sites. After the U.S. withdrew from the JCPOA in 2018 and Iran began reducing its commitments under the deal in 2019, access for inspectors was further limited. By 2021, Iran restricted IAEA monitoring, including access to surveillance data and certain sites, amid stalled negotiations to revive the JCPOA.
How many refugees will you take into your Gym Coach?
Will the US Social Department feed & cloth them ?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Methyl m1ke on June 22, 2025, 09:34:17 PM

I don’t like Iran and don’t think they should have nukes, but anyone that doesn’t see why a sovereign nation wouldn’t want people in their country poking around is retarded. It’s the same as letting the cops search your house and saying “well I got nothing to hide so it’s cool if they come in”.


Other side of this whole thing is that they had 60% enriched uranium that is well above what is needed for non weapons purposes, and very close to being able to further enrich to weapons grade. I hate that we had to do what we just did, but it did need to happen. Hopefully it deescalates soon and we come to a resolution that doesn’t involve our troops.

I think Trump just said we are now after regime change in Iran...
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Ron on June 22, 2025, 10:53:13 PM
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dan Caine Hold a Press Conference
June 22, 2025
 
SECRETARY OF DEFENSE PETE HEGSETH: Well, thank you for joining us this morning. Last night, on President Trump's orders, US Central Command conducted a precision strike in the middle of the night against three nuclear facilities in Iran, Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan, in order to destroy or severely degrade Iran's nuclear program, and as The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs will demonstrate it was an incredible and overwhelming success. The order we received from our commander in chief was focused. It was powerful, and it was clear. We devastated the Iranian nuclear program. But it's worth noting the operation did not target Iranian troops or the Iranian people. For the entirety of his time in office, President Trump has consistently stated, for over 10 years, that Iran must not get a nuclear weapon, full stop. Thanks to President Trump's bold and visionary leadership and his commitment to peace through strength, Iran's nuclear ambitions have been obliterated.

Many presidents have dreamed of delivering the final blow to Iran's nuclear program, and none could, until President Trump. The operation President Trump planned was bold and it was brilliant, showing the world that American deterrence is back. When this President speaks, the world should listen and the U.S. Military, we can back it up. The most powerful military the world has ever known. No other country on planet Earth could have conducted the operation that the chairman is going to outline this morning. Not even close. Just like Soleimani found out in the first term Iran found out when POTUS says 60 days that he seeks peace and negotiation, he means 60 days of peace and negotiation otherwise that nuclear program, that nuclear capability, will not exist. He meant it. This is not the previous administration. President Trump said, no nukes. He seeks peace, and Iran should take that path. He sent out a Truth last night, saying this: any retaliation by Iran against the United States of America will be met with force far greater than what was witnessed tonight, signed the President of the United States, Donald J Trump. Iran would be smart to heed those words. He said it before, and he means it.

I want to give recognition to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Joint Staff, General Eric Kurilla at CENTCOM, who did a phenomenal job. He and his staff, all of CENTCOM. Policy across the board. This was a joint effort, and across the Pentagon effort, I want to recognize the pilots who flew those bombers, who flew those fighters, who flew those refuelers. Warriors. I want to recognize the sailors on those destroyers, in those subs, on those carriers. Warriors, all of them. I want to recognize our soldiers doing air defense, base defense, QRF (quick reaction force) warriors, all of them, every American involved in this operation, performed flawlessly. And I want to give recognition to our allies in Israel as well. This is a plan that took months and weeks of positioning and preparation so that we could be ready when the President of the United States called. It took a great deal of precision. It involved misdirection and the highest of operational security. Our B-2s went in and out of downtown Tehran, not Tehran, excuse me, of these nuclear sites in and out and back without the world knowing at all. In that way, it was historic, a strike that included the longest B-2 Spirit bomber mission since 2001 and the first operational employment of the MOP, a massive ordinance penetrator. The mission demonstrated to the world the level of joint and allied integration that speak to the strength of our alliance and our joint forces. As President Trump has stated, the United States does not seek war, but let me be clear, we will act swiftly and decisively when our people, our partners or our interests are threatened. Iran should listen to the President of the United States and know that he means it, every word. I want to give congratulations to our commander in chief. It was an honor to watch him lead last night and throughout and to our great American warriors on this successful operation. God bless our troops. God bless America, and we give glory to God for his providence and continue to ask for his protection. I turn it over now to the chairman for specifics.

GENERAL DAN CAINE: Thank you, Mr. Secretary, thanks for recognizing all of our folks out there doing our nation's work. And nice to see everybody on this early Sunday morning. Last night, on the President's orders, US Central Command, under the command of General Eric Kurilla, executed Operation Midnight Hammer, a deliberate and precise strike against three Iranian nuclear facilities. This was a complex and high-risk mission carried out with exceptional skill and discipline by our joint force. I want to thank every service member, planner, operator, that made this mission possible. Their actions reflect the highest standards of the United States Armed Forces. This operation was designed to severely degrade Iran's nuclear weapons infrastructure. It was planned and executed across multiple domains and theaters with coordination that reflects our ability to project power globally with speed and precision at the time and place of our nation's choosing. This was a highly classified mission with very few people in Washington knowing the timing or nature of this plan. I'll refer you to the graphic on the side as I walk you through some of the operational details.

At midnight Friday into Saturday morning, a large B-2 strike package comprised of bombers launched from the continental United States. As part of a plan to maintain tactical surprise, part of the package, proceeded to the west and into the Pacific as a decoy. A deception effort known only to an extremely small number of planners and key leaders here in Washington and in Tampa. The main strike package comprised of seven B-2 Spirit bombers, each with two crew members, proceeded quietly to the east with minimal communications. Throughout the 18-hour flight into the target area, the aircraft completed multiple in-flight refuelings. Once over land, the B-2s linked up with escort and support aircraft in a complex, tightly timed maneuver requiring exact synchronization across multiple platforms in a narrow piece of airspace, all done with minimal communications.

This type of integration is exactly what our Joint Force does better than anyone else in the world. At approximately 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time last night, and just prior to the strike package entering Iran, a U.S. submarine in the Central Command Area of Responsibility launched more than two dozen Tomahawk land attack cruise missiles against key surface infrastructure targets at Esfahan. As the Operation Midnight Hammer strike package entered Iranian airspace, the U.S. employed several deception tactics, including decoys as the fourth and fifth generation aircraft pushed out in front of the strike package at high altitude and high speed, sweeping in front of the package for enemy fighters and surface to air missile.

The strike package was supported by U.S. Strategic Command, U.S. Transportation Command, U.S. Cyber Command, U.S. Space Command, U.S. Space Force and U.S. European command. As the strike package approached Fordow and Natanz, the U.S. protection package employed high speed suppression weapons to ensure safe passage of the strike package with fighter assets employing preemptive suppressing fires against any potential Iranian surface to air threats.

We are currently unaware of any shots fired at the U.S. strike package on the way in. At approximately 6:40 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, 2:10 a.m. Iran time, the lead B-2 dropped two GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator weapons on the first of several aim points at Fordow. As the President stated last night, the remaining bombers then hit their targets as well, with a total of 14 MOPs dropped against two nuclear target areas. All three Iranian nuclear infrastructure targets were struck between 6:40 p.m. and 7:05 p.m. Eastern time again. That's about 2:10 in the morning, local time in Iran. With the Tomahawk missiles being the last to strike at Esfahan to ensure we retain the element of surprise throughout the operation. Following weapons release, the Midnight Hammer strike, package exited Iranian airspace, and the package began its return home. We are unaware of any shots fired at the package on the way out.

Iran's fighters did not fly, and it appears that Iran's surface to air missile systems did not see us. Throughout the mission, we retained the element of surprise. In total, U.S. forces employed approximately 75 precision guided weapons during this operation. This included, like the president stated last night, 14 30,000-pound GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrators, marking the first ever operational use of this weapon.

I know that battle damage is of great interest. Final battle damage will take some time, but initial battle damage assessments indicate that all three sites sustained extremely severe damage and destruction. More than 125 U.S. aircraft participated in this mission, including B-2 stealth bombers, multiple flights of fourth and fifth generation fighters, dozens and dozens of air refueling tankers, a guided missile submarine, and a full array of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance aircraft, as well as hundreds of maintenance and operational professionals.

As the secretary said, this was the largest B-2 operational strike in U.S. history, and the second longest B-2 mission ever flown, exceeded only by those in the days following 9/11. Well prior to the strike, General Kurilla elevated force protection measures across the region, especially in Iraq, Syria and the Gulf. Our forces remain on high alert and are fully postured to respond to any Iranian retaliation or proxy attacks, which would be an incredibly poor choice. We will defend ourselves the safety of our service members and civilians remains our highest priority.

This mission demonstrates the unmatched reach coordination and capability of the United States military. In just a matter of weeks, this went from strategic planning to global execution. This operation underscores the unmatched capabilities and global reach of the United States military. As the president clearly said last night, no other in the military, no other military in the world, could have done this. I join the president and the secretary in being incredibly proud of the air crews, naval forces, cyber operators, planners and support teams and commanders who made this mission possible. It is their skill, discipline and teamwork that makes this operation possible. I am particularly proud of our discipline related to operational security, something that was of great concern to the president, the Secretary, General, Kurilla and me, and we will continue to focus on this. As we stand here this morning, many assets are still airborne, and we have hundreds deployed. I ask that we keep our war fighters on their way home and our deployed service member in our thoughts. Our joint force remains ready to defend the United States our troops and our interests in the region. Thank you very much.

SECRETARY HEGSETH: We'll take a few questions. Phil.

Q? So is regime change off the table, Mr. Secretary and to the chairman, you said the battle damage assessment is still ongoing, but do you believe that some nuclear capability in Iran remains?

SECRETARY HEGSETH: This mission was not and has not been about regime change. The president authorized a precision operation to neutralize the threats to our national interests posed by the Iranian nuclear program and the collective self-defense of our troops and our ally Israel.

GENERAL CAINE: Thanks for your question. I think BDA is still pending, and it would be way too early for me to comment on what may or may not still be there. But thanks for the question.

SECRETARY HEGSETH: Green. Green, no, behind you.

Q: Excuse me Mr. Secretary, can you tell me was there a particular moment when the president decided to pull the trigger on this operation where he said, now, president being, you know, something in the holster, now we're going to pull the trigger on.

SECRETARY HEGSETH: I would just say having the opportunity to witness his leadership, he was fully committed to the peace process. Wanted, wanted a negotiated outcome. Gave Iran every single opportunity, and unfortunately, was met by stonewalling, which is why he gave them plenty of time to continue to come to the table and give up enrichment, give up the nuclear program.

But there was a, I won't say, the particular moment. There was certainly a moment in time. A moment in time where he realized that it had to be a certain action taken in order to minimize the threat to us and our troops.

Q: General, you say that General Kurilla increased force protection in Iraq, Syria and Gulf in those areas. Were they given any advance warning the attacks were coming? And also, Mr. Secretary, when were congressional leaders notified? How long before the attacks took place?

GENERAL CAINE: Sir, to your first question. You know, the risk has clearly been rising over the last few weeks in the region, based on that and not a particular awareness of this operation, we've made smart decisions to minimize the risk to U.S. forces in the region.

Q: So there was no advance warning?

GENERAL CAINE: No sir

Q: Inaudible

SECRETARY HEGSETH: They (Congress) they were notified after the planes were safely out. What we complied with the notification requirements of the War Powers Act.

Q; They were notified.

SECRETARY HEGSETH: They were immediately thereafter. Yes.

Q: Thank you. Mr. Secretary, two questions, do you believe you completely destroyed Iranian nuclear program (sic)? And how about Iranian ballistic missiles? Your ally Israel always saying that is biggest threat (sic). And second question is very important, what will be your next step if Iran or militias under Iranian influence in the region attack us interests or allies in the region?

SECRETARY HEGSETH: And you can chime in on this too, Mr. Chairman, the battle damage assessment is ongoing. But our initial assessment, as the Chairman said, is that all of our precision munitions struck where we wanted them to strike and had the desired effect, which means especially in Fordow, which was the primary target here. We believe we achieved destruction of capabilities there. Ultimately, wherever it may be, whether it's in Iraq or Syria or bases in the Gulf, as the president said it would be, or excuse me, as the Chairman said it would be a very bad idea for Iran or its proxies to attempt to Attack American forces.

Q: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Secretary regarding retaliation, Iran and North Korea are cooperating on nuclear and missile development. Do you think there is a possibility that Iran, North Korea and other forces such as China will join forces to retaliate against the United States.

SECRETARY HEGSETH: Well, unfortunately, because of the policies under the previous administration, we drove those countries together, and ultimately that creates a challenging environment. For this particular operation, the focus is on Iran and Iranian nuclear capabilities. That's our focus here is to not just say that they can't have, but President Trump has said, from over 20 years frankly, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, and ultimately he decided this is the moment, given their stonewalling, when direct military action had to be taken to prevent that from happening.

Yes.

Q: Thank you very much. General Cain, I understand OpSec, I respect OpSec. Can you say at all what security procedures are being taken to protect U.S. troops in Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East. And Secretary Hegseth, as a global war on terrorism veteran, what do you say to veterans who may be concerned the U.S. is getting into another open-ended war in the Middle East over weapons of mass destruction?

GENERAL CAINE: Thanks, sir for the question. I won't comment on what force protection measures are being taken in the region. What I will say is we're being proactive and not reactive and being very thoughtful about ensuring that we do all that we can to protect our forces out there.

SECRETARY HEGSETH: And I would just say, as the president has directed and made clear, this is most certainly not open ended. It doesn't mean it limits our ability to respond. We will respond if necessary. The most powerful military in the world is postured and prepared to defend our people. But what the president gave us, as I said, was a focused, powerful and clear mission on the destruction of Iranian nuclear capabilities. Those were the targets. That's what was struck. That was overwhelming. That's what was overwhelming. That's what the Iranian regime needs to understand. As the president put it out, put out last night, he wants peace. There needs to be a negotiated settlement here. We ultimately demonstrated that Iran cannot have a nuclear capability. That is a very clear mission set on this operation.

Yes. Hold on, yes, right there.

Q: Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Question for the secretary and the chairman. How is this strike coordinated with the Israelis on a strategic level, militarily and on a tactical level? Was there any direct Israeli military participation in this operation?

SECRETARY HEGSETH: Well, I would say certainly Israel had an incredible military success, especially at the beginning and ongoing, in degrading Iranian capabilities, degrading Iranian launchers, MRBMs (medium-range ballistic missiles), it's been incredible to watch what our ally Israel has been able to do. And there certainly have been conversations. I mean, General Kurilla at CENTCOM has worked closely in the defense of Israel for many years, and part of this operation was the defense of Israel and the ongoing defense of Israel. But as it pertains to this strike, this was U.S. operated, and U.S. led.

GENERAL CAINE: We took advantage of some of the preparatory work that's been done over the past week and a half in terms of axis of approach. I won't get into the particulars, but as the secretary said, it was a U.S. strike. We made sure we were not in the same piece of airspace and sky. Aside from that, that was the extent of it.

SECRETARY HEGSETH: We'll take a couple more. Yeah, right there.

Q: Question Mr. Secretary. First, are you concerned whatsoever now about the reaction from U.S. allies given the strike, particularly those in the Gulf and to the chairman, if I may, I understand you don't want to speak to specific assets, force protection measures, but do you anticipate at least having to bring in any further assets from other feeders to aid and force protection over the coming days?

SECRETARY HEGSETH: We certainly understand the challenges of allies in the region, and we have been respectful and in working in collaboration with them as it pertains to basing and sensitivities there. Ultimately, they've got a lot of assets and people in those locations also where American troops are co-located. So that's a consideration of ours. We've been in close consultation with them, and we appreciate the support that we have gotten.

GENERAL CAINE: Thanks for the question on sort of the global picture, and as you know, that's one of my jobs, is to look globally at the entire range of challenges. We are always carefully considering our force posture around the world and then offering options to the secretary and to the president. I won't comment on any future things, but the American people should know that we carefully consider those moves around the world and try to modulate, as needed, our force structure in the region.

Thank you. What communications are being sent to the Iranians right now? And is there any possibility of diplomacy now or in the coming days?

SECRETARY HEGSETH: I can, I can only confirm that there are both public and private messages being directly delivered to the Iranians in multiple channels giving them every opportunity to come to the table. They understand precisely what the American position is, precisely what steps they can take to allow for peace, and we hope they do so.

Q: The President may not want an open-ended conflict. The Iranians may disagree. Are you prepared for a protracted war?

SECRETARY HEGSETH Well, anything can happen in conflict, we acknowledge that, but the scope of this was intentionally limited. That's the message that we're sending with the capabilities of the American military nearly unlimited. So Iran, in that sense, has a choice, but we've made it very clear to them, this is nuclear sites. This is nuclear capabilities. This is the line that the president set, and we set that back. Now is the time to come forward for peace, but we…I think one of the takeaways from this as well is the unprecedented level of ongoing cooperation. I can't speak highly enough of the chairman and his staff and General Kurilla in CENTCOM, what they've done to look around the corner to pre-position, to understand how an operation like this comes together. The scope and scale of what occurred last night would take the breath away of almost any American if you had an opportunity to watch it in real time.

And I think Tehran is certainly calculating the reality that planes flew from the middle of America and Missouri overnight, completely undetected over three of their most highly sensitive sites, and we were able to destroy nuclear capabilities. And our boys in those bombers are on their way home right now. We believe that will have a clear psychological impact on how they view the future, and we certainly hope they take the path of negotiated peace.

But I could not be more proud of how this building operated, of the precision, the sensitivity and the professionalism of the troops involved in this effort.

I will take one more we'll take one more question. Yes, right there.

Q: Thank you, Mr. Secretary, concerning the justification for these strikes, in March, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence released their threat assessment concluded, quote, Iran is not building a nuclear weapon, and Khomeini has not authorized the nuclear programs he suspended in 2003 unquote. So what new intelligence does the US have since then that the Iranians have changed their position on nuclear weapons, and does this new intelligence come from U.S. sources and methods, or are we getting this information from other countries?

SECRETARY HEGSETH : Well, I would just simply say that the President's made it very clear he's looked at all of this, all of the intelligence, all the information, and come to the conclusion that the Iranian nuclear program is a threat, and was willing to take this precision operation to neutralize that threat in order to advance American national interests, reduce the Iranian nuclear program and obviously collective self-defense of ourself and our allies. So he looked at all of it, understood the nature of the threat, and took bold action I think the American people would expect in a commander in chief.

That's all we've got. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: tacobender on June 22, 2025, 11:50:01 PM
Were they really obliterated?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 23, 2025, 12:21:37 AM
50 fucking years of their terrorist bullshit finally coming to an end, no jewish person should ever vote Democrat again
90% will still vote for Democrats.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on June 23, 2025, 02:47:26 AM
Promise made. Promise broken. No new wars my ass. Iran has been 2 weeks away from building a nuclear bomb for 3 decades. Sick of this shit. USA = Israel’s bitch

In the words of Sean Strickland

Israel says “Jump”

Trump says “how high?”

Dumb fucks billionaire adelson and AIPAC made sure to line Trump, Rubio, Cruz’s pockets nice and fat

Thank you.  What a disappointment Trump II has been
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: BigRo on June 23, 2025, 03:45:38 AM
How can Trump claim it was a massive success before Israeli special op soldiers make an onsite assessment and are they willing to absail on ropes 300 feet down to see if the centrifuges were destroyed? I presume with a gas mask too?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Kwon on June 23, 2025, 03:47:38 AM
How can Trump claim it was a massive success before Israeli special op soldiers make an onsite assessment and are they willing to absail on ropes 300 feet down to see if the centrifuges were destroyed? I presume with a gas mask too?

Everything Trump does is a Massive Success


US = Greatest Military in the WORLD!


As soon as US enters a War, others become afraid, and now Iran will have NO allies backing them anymore now that Trump has entered the fray.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on June 23, 2025, 04:27:07 AM
How can Trump claim it was a massive success before Israeli special op soldiers make an onsite assessment and are they willing to absail on ropes 300 feet down to see if the centrifuges were destroyed? I presume with a gas mask too?

Trump superfans believe whatever he tells them.  If he says it was a success, they certainly won’t question it.   Case in point:

Everything Trump does is a Massive Success


US = Greatest Military in the WORLD!


As soon as US enters a War, others become afraid, and now Iran will have NO allies backing them anymore now that Trump has entered the fray.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 04:38:24 AM
Here’s the thing about saying that they have no nuclear bombs or weapons and I’ll post it up again in case some of you didn’t read it or want to read it. They shouldn’t have nuclear capabilities at all seeing how they threaten us and the Middle East regions.

Also, Iran for decades has been chanting “Death to America” “Death to Israel” and are a direct threat to both countries.

Here is my thing Coach. Is it like Iran has been chanting death to US and Israel and call them the big and little Satan, for no reason? They hate their "freedoms"? Are Iranians and the Muslims in general coming to bomb and overthrow governments and steal oil in the US and Israel or is it the other way around? How many innocent civilians have they  killed vs the other way around? Like I said, I'm not aware of any terrorist attacks by Iranians in the US? The empire has terrorized the middle east for how long? It's the height of hypocrisy, enough to make you vomit and dismiss anything Trump et al says. A character like Bin Laden directly said his reason for doing what he did is the US's involvement in the middle east. It's not about hating freeedom or any other BS reason. That's just for public consumption, for people who have no knowledge whatsoever. Like John McPhee said, "we are a bad friend." He loves bombs and killing Muslims but even he knows their reasons for fighting is valid. Do you disagree? Trump was just in Saudi Arabia and gave that speech about not wanting to go overseas to tell them how to live and overthrow their governments. Did you watch it? You should. If the US extricated itself from the middle east and put a leash on Israel the "terrorism" would stop. And stop importing the "enemy" into our countries too.

Now the US/Israel doesn't know where the nuclear material is, they don't know if they have secret facilities elsewhere. The Iranians claim Fordow was empty, and the fact that IAEA says there' no radiation detected supports that. I say the nuclear threat just got much worse, what do you think? Iran was ready for very tough inspections, you could say that was way imperfect a solution but how perfect is the situation now? Russia and China could also have come in with guarantees as both countries say they don't want Iran to have the bomb either and I believe them. Now Putin says they will put even more Russians into Bushehr, from 250 to 600, for their civilian nuclear reactor.

How can Trump claim it was a massive success before Israeli special op soldiers make an onsite assessment and are they willing to absail on ropes 300 feet down to see if the centrifuges were destroyed? I presume with a gas mask too?

A gas mask is not enough if there's radiation :D Besides, there may be facilities elsewhere. And where is the nuclear material? It's been reported that many trucks were seen taking out something at Fordow. Could be anywhere, it's a BIG country :D

Trump's victory speech was an embarrassment. Like a 12 year old school kid wrote it. "God bless the Middle East!" "Thanks you God." :D
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: IroNat on June 23, 2025, 04:45:36 AM
How can Trump claim it was a massive success before Israeli special op soldiers make an onsite assessment and are they willing to absail on ropes 300 feet down to see if the centrifuges were destroyed? I presume with a gas mask too?

All propaganda by Trump.



Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Griffith on June 23, 2025, 05:01:31 AM
Besides the old F-14 Tomcats the Iranians mainly use outdated Russian equipment, which is not near the level of the modern weapons produced in the US and Western Europe.

If they have no control or proper defence of the skies, repeated bombing of infrastructure such as power stations and water supply could set their country back generations.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 05:11:08 AM
Besides the old F-14 Tomcats the Iranians mainly use outdated Russian equipment, which is not near the level of the modern weapons produced in the US and Western Europe.

If they have no control or proper defence of the skies, repeated bombing of infrastructure such as power stations and water supply could set their country back generations.

Yes but Trump is apprehensive about doing that, like "now we are outta there, Iran MUST accept peace." He really doesn't want another forever war but may have no choice. Well, he made his bed.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Dave D on June 23, 2025, 05:21:56 AM
Here is my thing Coach. Is it like Iran has been chanting death to US and Israel and call them the big and little Satan, for no reason? They hate their "freedoms"? Are Iranians and the Muslims in general coming to bomb and overthrow governments and steal oil in the US and Israel or is it the other way around? How many innocent civilians have they  killed vs the other way around? Like I said, I'm not aware of any terrorist attacks by Iranians in the US? The empire has terrorized the middle east for how long? It's the height of hypocrisy, enough to make you vomit and dismiss anything Trump et al says. A character like Bin Laden directly said his reason for doing what he did is the US's involvement in the middle east. It's not about hating freeedom or any other BS reason. That's just for public consumption, for people who have no knowledge whatsoever. Like John McPhee said, "we are a bad friend." He loves bombs and killing Muslims but even he knows their reasons for fighting is valid. Do you disagree? Trump was just in Saudi Arabia and gave that speech about not wanting to go overseas to tell them how to live and overthrow their governments. Did you watch it? You should. If the US extricated itself from the middle east and put a leash on Israel the "terrorism" would stop. And stop importing the "enemy" into our countries too.

Now the US/Israel doesn't know where the nuclear material is, they don't know if they have secret facilities elsewhere. The Iranians claim Fordow was empty, and the fact that IAEA says there' no radiation detected supports that. I say the nuclear threat just got much worse, what do you think? Iran was ready for very tough inspections, you could say that was way imperfect a solution but how perfect is the situation now? Russia and China could also have come in with guarantees as both countries say they don't want Iran to have the bomb either and I believe them. Now Putin says they will put even more Russians into Bushehr, from 250 to 600, for their civilian nuclear reactor.

A gas mask is not enough if there's radiation :D Besides, there may be facilities elsewhere. And where is the nuclear material? It's been reported that many trucks were seen taking out something at Fordow. Could be anywhere, it's a BIG country :D

Trump's victory speech was an embarrassment. Like a 12 year old school kid wrote it. "God bless the Middle East!" "Thanks you God." :D

Who’s reporrting this? Why should those reports be more valid then the reports that say the bunkers were destroyed ?Who’s been monitoring trucks going in and out of the nuclear site?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 05:31:07 AM
Who’s reporrting this? Why should those reports be more valid then the reports that say the bunkers were destroyed ?Who’s been monitoring trucks going in and out of the nuclear site?

Admittedly I didn't fact check it, there so MUCH info LOL, but the analyst, Alexander Mercouris, who said it had mentioned that satellite photos showed it, it was in the days leading up to the attack. Of course no one can know what was taken out. Even the US military says it's too early to assess the damage. The Iranians must have been really stupid if they left everything there when they knew this was coming, you gotta admit? Iranians claim, which they would of course even if false, that Fordow was empty. They also claimed damage at the entrances and little to no damage in the deep halls, but how would they know? One analyst I find interesting:

https://simplicius76.substack.com/

If you're the reading type it may be some nice reading. Waiting on his analysis. He may or may not be funded by the Kremlin, but the output, the volume, is amazing, can't be just one person :D

Simplicius says it's estimated Iran has 3000-28,000 ballistic missiles, and that they produce 300 themselves a month. They have burned through 500 so far. But if we go with 3000 inventory, he thinks Iran may start shooting an average of just 10 a day going forward because that's what they can produce without depleting existing stock. He thinks Russia will advice them today at the meeting to not attack US assets, and probably refrain from closing the Strait, just keep on attriting Israel. We'll see.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Never1AShow on June 23, 2025, 05:50:08 AM
All this media and Leftist whining trying to come up with some way this isn't a win for USA and Trump.  More lies as usual like they've been doing for years for pants shitter Biden. 

All the quibbling doesn't matter, if they missed something they'll do it again.  The days of pussies are over for a generation now
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 05:58:32 AM
All this media and Leftist whining trying to come up with some way this isn't a win for USA and Trump.  More lies as usual like they've been doing for years for pants shitter Biden. 

All the quibbling doesn't matter, if they missed something they'll do it again.  The days of pussies are over for a generation now

It's said this bombing has been rehearsed with joint exercises like 2-3 times during the Biden admin. Of course you have to adapt it to the exact circumstances but this was a long time coming. A former CIA fella says Netanyahu has demanded several US Presidents bomb Iran, and the others said no and Trump finally did it. The fella says Israelis are hated in the CIA, while they are loved on Capitol Hill. Claims Obama and other Presidents hated Bibi and wouldn't even see him if he was in Washington but Bibi knew he owned Capitol Hill and was always received as a hero. Claimed Israelis were banned from CIA headquarters and they had a special location just for those meeting. The reason being Israelis always come with gifts and they always had listening devices put in the gifts :D

&t=896s

Presidents are there for 4-8 years but the Deep State works on a longer time scale, CIA heads can be on their posts for decades. Trump only has 3 years left and whatever the Deep State works towards, if Trump goes against them, they can wait it out.

"They will just do it again"... the exact thing Trump is praying won't be necessary. But it will be necessary.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 08:55:35 AM
IMO worth reading the whole thing.

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/shayrat-redux-trumps-invisible-fleet

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Iran Reinforced Fordow Nuclear Site Just Before U.S. Strikes!

Satellite images (June 19) show 16 dump trucks & earthmovers piling dirt near tunnel entrances of Iran’s Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant, buried 90m underground. Signs of pre-emptive fortification before strikes.

Satellite imagery shows “unusual truck and vehicular activity” at the Fordow fuel enrichment facility two days before the strike, according to a senior analyst at the satellite firm Maxar. On June 19, there were 16 cargo trucks along the access road leading to the underground military complex. Imagery taken the next day shows that most of the trucks had moved about one kilometer northwest, farther from the facility.

Initial assumptions were that these were flatbeds hauling away the critical ‘enrichment materials’, but in fact that total relocation of the Fordow site had already taken place months ago, as Iranian figures like Mohsen Rezaee revealed. The above shows not flatbeds but dump trucks which appear to be filling Fordow’s tunnel entrances in order to fortify them against blast damage.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 09:18:40 AM
Who’s reporrting this? Why should those reports be more valid then the reports that say the bunkers were destroyed ?Who’s been monitoring trucks going in and out of the nuclear site?

If you see my posts Dave, I'm interested in your take, especially on the US officials' statements, Vance's etc.

He had no choice. This isn’t a war. We took out their nuclear facilities. So far the hit caused no injuries or deaths and there was no plan for regime change but I would imagine we might take out the ayatollah at some point

Are you still really confident about this Coach? What's you take on Trump's and Gaetz's posts? What do you think about the US officials saying they don't know if they took them out? Trump immediately claimed total obliteration. Israeli media quotes Israeli insiders saying the nuclear program cannot be destroyed even with another year of bombing with the Americans. Like Gaetz says, it's almost like this was always about regime change :D
I'm not a prophet or a genius but that's what I thought since Israel started their bombing. Destroy the regime and then plunge Iran into total chaos and bloodshed. Saying it's about freedom for the Iranians is extremely offensive. At least Bibi didn't say God bless the Middle East or Iran like Trump did  ::):D



"It's not about regime change!"

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Iran knew the exact epicenter the B-2s would have to converge on and yet was unable to even attempt to engage them? Could the scriptwriters have written a more schlockily improbable series of events? They could have at least added a few ‘glory moments’ of F-35s and F-22s shooting down a couple Iranian fighter craft for effect.

Recall that the US was having severe problems even operating just outside of Yemeni airspace, with not only F-35s nearly shot down, but two F-18s lost to panicked defensive maneuvers, as well as one other shot down by US air defense, and a fourth “nearly shot down” in the same operation.

So, Houthi air defenses can engage F-35s, but an entire sky swarming with B-2s, F-35s, F-22s, and other planes were not detected at all by Iran, whose IADS is likely dozens of times stronger than Yemen’s? Keep in mind the Pentagon spokesman also said the strike package included fourth generation craft that flew all the way to central Iran, which presumably refers to F-16s and F-15s—but for some bizarre reason Iran “never fired a shot”.

Sound suspicious to anyone else?

And after all these strikes, countless claims of Israeli “total aerial control”, there is still not a single video of a foreign craft over the skies of Iran. The B-2s were even seen flying back over New Jersey on their ‘heroe’s return’, yet no one in a nation of 90 million saw or heard anything on this most ‘mysterious’ of nights.

Something’s rotten in the state of HasbarAmerica.

So, yes, I’m convinced Iran decided to take US’ offer and allowed safe passage of the strike package to rain a few insignificant ‘token’ strikes on Fordow with the understanding that this was the US’ price for exiting the conflict.

Now, there are rumors that Israel may use the given ‘off-ramp’ as pretense to likewise conclude a new deal and end hostilities, given that Israel has exhausted itself and is now losing a war of attrition against Iran.


This is Trump’s way of alleviating neocon pressure—a sort of purity test for his Israeli handlers.

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Israeli paper Yedioth Ahronoth, citing Israeli officials: We will accept a ceasefire tomorrow if Khamenei announces that he wants one.

Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Necrosis on June 23, 2025, 10:26:40 AM
USA isnt at war with Iran just like japan wasnt at war with the US just a specific naval base!

Looks like Iran has bombed us air bases or attempted to from initial reports. Iran says they are just attacking air bases not the US, so dont retaliate!
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 10:30:35 AM
USA isnt at war with Iran just like japan wasnt at war with the US just a specific naval base!

Looks like Iran has bombed us air bases or attempted to from initial reports. Iran says they are just attacking air bases not the US, so dont retaliate!

Haha exactly. The nerve of some people. Bomb and say you are bringing peace, not war.

US bombs while demanding "negotiations." In the Ukraine-Russia war it's considered blasphemy to demand a negotiations before a ceasefire. The Russians are such barbarians and not serious.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: loco on June 23, 2025, 10:33:07 AM
America, FOOK YEAH, freedom is the only way, YEAH!!!

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Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: loco on June 23, 2025, 10:34:57 AM
USA isnt at war with Iran just like japan wasnt at war with the US just a specific naval base!

Looks like Iran has bombed us air bases or attempted to from initial reports. Iran says they are just attacking air bases not the US, so dont retaliate!

"Iran said its missile attack on Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar matched the number of bombs dropped by the United States on Iranian nuclear sites this weekend, signaling Iran's likely desire to deescalate."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-launches-missiles-drones-israel-083917263.html


IRAN:  "We're even now, bro.  Please don't bomb me no mo"
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 10:47:22 AM



IRAN:  "We're even now, bro.  Don't bomb me no mo"

Are you saying they are pussies? Well, Iran didn't escalate in the first place. Seem Israel is also wanting to deescalate, after starting a war of aggression. Israel: "Oy Vey, please don't bomb us no mo, Khamenei, we're ready for a ceasefire"

Russia:

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Moscow’s partnership with Tehran is “unbreakable,” Russian’s deputy foreign minister said Monday, adding that Iran has the right to self-defense.

Iran “is acting within the framework of the implementation of the right to self-defense, this is an absolutely legitimate and correct presentation,” Sergei Ryabkov told reporters, Russian state news agency TASS reported.

“We interact with Iran in many areas,” the senior diplomat said, answering a question about whether Iran had requested military assistance from Russia.

Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: MajorDomo on June 23, 2025, 10:57:44 AM
Are you saying they are pussies? Well, Iran didn't escalate in the first place. Seem Israel is also wanting to deescalate, after starting a war of aggression. [

Damn VanB - never knew you were such a Muslim and leftwing sympathizer. i guess Sweden is officially lost now.

Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: B_B_C on June 23, 2025, 10:59:32 AM
Iran “is acting within the framework of the implementation of the right to self-defense, this is an absolutely legitimate and correct presentation,” Sergei Ryabkov told reporters, Russian state news agency TASS reported.



Nobody does Irony like the Russians
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 11:03:36 AM
Damn VanB - never knew you were such a Muslim and leftwing sympathizer. i guess Sweden is officially lost now.

I thought you were Jewish a long time ago. Correct? No offense intended, there are righteous Jews also.

If you would have read my ramblings you'd know I'm decidedly not a Muslim lover and specifically not an Irani lover :D And I'm not a leftwinger I don't think, I would be called a right wing extremist by most and a white supremacist. It's the leftwing Jews who have flooded my country with the damn Muslim scum >:( For whatever it's worth, these things may matter, I'm a Swedish citizen but ethnically a Finn. So not an Aryan Swede, not a slav either. Thankfully neighboring Finland isn't quite the hellish melting pot that Sweden is.

I've posted this a hundred times. Please take a look, just over a minute. A lovely "Swede." Awaiting you reaction :)



Edit. Misread BBCs post. Apologies BBC if you read my reply.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Necrosis on June 23, 2025, 11:04:38 AM
"Iran said its missile attack on Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar matched the number of bombs dropped by the United States on Iranian nuclear sites this weekend, signaling Iran's likely desire to deescalate."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-launches-missiles-drones-israel-083917263.html


IRAN:  "We're even now, bro.  Don't bomb me no mo"

I am in a bizzarro world. They retaliate and its taken as a sign of descalation?

Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: IroNat on June 23, 2025, 11:10:28 AM
USA isnt at war with Iran just like japan wasnt at war with the US just a specific naval base!

Looks like Iran has bombed us air bases or attempted to from initial reports. Iran says they are just attacking air bases not the US, so dont retaliate!

A very fine analysis of the situation.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 11:11:25 AM
I am in a bizzarro world. They retaliate and its taken as a sign of descalation?

Well they see that Iran doesn't seek escalation but will defend itself. Some see this as a sign of weakness apparently. No matter what they do they will call Iran weak.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Flexacon on June 23, 2025, 11:16:48 AM
I am in a bizzarro world. They retaliate and its taken as a sign of descalation?

Yes. It was a face saving exercise for Iran. They even gave the US notice of their planned bombing.

Ball is now in Trumps court, but Iran will negotiate now. Posted this a couple of days ago.

Their primary objective (based on prophetical reasons) is to stay in power Iran. As long as they are not made to look weak or like cucks, they will take the negotiations/peace route

Markets are all green and oil is down, but doomers will keep dooming. Hilarious!
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 11:24:32 AM
Yes. It was a face saving exercise for Iran. They even gave the US notice of their planned bombing.

IOW Iranians are basically pussies and weak, just like the Russians, correct?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: joswift on June 23, 2025, 11:32:12 AM
Yes. It was a face saving exercise for Iran. They even gave the US notice of their planned bombing.

Ball is now in Trumps court, but Iran will negotiate now. Posted this a couple of days ago.

Markets are all green and oil is down, but doomers will keep dooming. Hilarious!
not very wise, trump agrees to the bombing and then lets one through killing US soldiers  so he can then carpet bomb the entire region
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: loco on June 23, 2025, 11:32:32 AM
Are you saying they are pussies?

I am in a bizzarro world. They retaliate and its taken as a sign of descalation?

Why oil is tumbling and stocks are rising after Iran launched missiles at US bases

“I think what you’re seeing in many ways is a symbolic attack by Iran,” Kirk Lippold, former commanding officer on the USS Cole, told CNN. “Ten missiles is not that much. Every one is dangerous, every one could kill or maim many Americans. But hopefully at this point we’re not going to see further responses by the Iranians.”

By comparison, Iran said it launched “hundreds” of missiles against locations across Israel on June 13 in response to Israeli strikes.

At the moment, all signs point to a limited response: Iranian officials gave Qatar advance notice that an attack was coming before launching missiles toward a US military base located there, according to a source familiar with the matter. The coordination was intended to minimize casualties and preserve an off ramp, the source said.


https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/23/investing/stock-market-dow-oil-iran


IRAN:  "We're even now, bro.  Please don't bomb me no mo"
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: GymnJuice on June 23, 2025, 11:36:11 AM
I am disappointed that Trump bombed them. But I don't know who else would be better in the white house. Maybe Rand Paul would have handled this better. I'm sure Bush/Hillary etc would have handled it worse.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Flexacon on June 23, 2025, 11:44:17 AM
IOW Iranians are basically pussies and weak, just like the Russians, correct?
not very wise, trump agrees to the bombing and then lets one through killing US soldiers  so he can then carpet bomb the entire region

It has nothing to do with being pussies and none of this brinkmanship is wise. Pure political theatre

Just remember one thing.

NEVER BET AGAINST AMERICA!

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Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Grape Ape on June 23, 2025, 11:57:13 AM
It has nothing to do with being pussies and none of this brinkmanship is wise. Pure political theatre

Just remember one thing.

NEVER BET AGAINST AMERICA!

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It's similar to what the "retaliation" for Solemani was, no?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: MajorDomo on June 23, 2025, 12:16:11 PM
I thought you were Jewish a long time ago. Correct? No offense intended, there are righteous Jews also.

If you would have read my ramblings you'd know I'm decidedly not a Muslim lover and specifically not an Irani lover :D And I'm not a leftwinger I don't think, I would be called a right wing extremist by most and a white supremacist. It's the leftwing Jews who have flooded my country with the damn Muslim scum >:( For whatever it's worth, these things may matter, I'm a Swedish citizen but ethnically a Finn. So not an Aryan Swede, not a slav either. Thankfully neighboring Finland isn't quite the hellish melting pot that Sweden is.

I've posted this a hundred times. Please take a look, just over a minute. A lovely "Swede." Awaiting you reaction :)



Edit. Misread BBCs post. Apologies BBC if you read my reply.

Italian descent - that's like being Jewish without money, haha.

I'll gp back and read your literary works - apologies if I tarred and feathered you incorrectly :)
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 01:02:49 PM
Italian descent - that's like being Jewish without money, haha.

I'll gp back and read your literary works - apologies if I tarred and feathered you incorrectly :)

I read that ashekenazi Jews are genetically close to Italians, northern Italians to be more specific. Jews intermarried with the local population there ;)

No need to read all my crap. Maybe the left and right distinction isn't all that precise a description :D
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Flexacon on June 23, 2025, 01:03:51 PM
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Iran has officially responded to our Obliteration of their Nuclear Facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and have very effectively countered. There have been 14 missiles fired — 13 were knocked down, and 1 was "set free," because it was headed in a nonthreatening direction. I am pleased to report that NO Americans were harmed, and hardly any damage was done. Most importantly, they've gotten it all out of their "system," and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE. I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Where is the WWIII I was promised by the doomers?

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Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 01:24:32 PM
Where is the WWIII I was promised by the doomers?

It's too early to tell  ;D

This could be seen as capitulation by Israel and the US just the same. As the analyst I quoted above discerned, Israel can't keep up a war of attrition. The US bombing could be seen as symbolic too, an off-ramp for Israel and Trump, a face saving measure. They gave Iran a heads up it was coming so they could clear out the facilities. Now both sides can claim victory. Fact of the matter is that the nuclear program is still there, and now Iran really might make a rush for the bomb so this doesn't happen again. I imagine Israel isn't happy if this ends here. But will it?

"Trump thanks Iran" Bizarre LOL
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Flexacon on June 23, 2025, 01:42:24 PM
It's too early to tell  ;D

This could be seen as capitulation by Israel and the US just the same. As the analyst I quoted above discerned, Israel can't keep up a war of attrition. The US bombing could be seen as symbolic too, an off-ramp for Israel and Trump, a face saving measure. They gave Iran a heads up it was coming so they could clear out the facilities. Now both sides can claim victory. Fact of the matter is that the nuclear program is still there, and now Iran really might make a rush for the bomb so this doesn't happen again. I imagine Israel isn't happy if this ends here. But will it?

"Trump thanks Iran" Bizarre LOL

The analysts you listen to are akin to listening to dieting advice from Shizzo or relationship advice from Brian.

I told you it would be over very soon like 5 days, I told you bunker buster bombs would end this and that Iran would throw a few bombs about and then negotiate.

Flexacon > your analysts
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: oldschoolfan on June 23, 2025, 01:52:58 PM
It has nothing to do with being pussies and none of this brinkmanship is wise. Pure political theatre

Just remember one thing.

NEVER BET AGAINST AMERICA!

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hell yeah

nothing is more powerful than a american  navy aircraft carrier strike group !
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: loco on June 23, 2025, 01:56:39 PM
I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice

LOL...Trump's hilarious.   ;D
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: loco on June 23, 2025, 02:01:32 PM
Iran attacked a US military base today, nobody died or was injured, minimal damage done, and my 401K balance increased. 

Thank you, Iran!   ;D
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 23, 2025, 02:33:26 PM
She said " iran is not building a nuclear weapon and has their nuclear program suspended sinces 2013" she goes on the say the are enriching uranium (not to weapons grade mind you) at levels not seen in non nuclear state.

Joe, I am infinitely smarter than you, I doubt we could actually have a conversation in real life. You have inchoate parochial views and cannot handle complexity, paraconsistency or think in a manner that isn't binary. Rhizomatic thought eludes you.

Lord have mercy…stop already. I’m sorry man, being a liberal,having intelligence and especially common sense just doesn’t happen. The fact you have use words like that few use in daily conversation makes you look like you’re trying to hard. Considering the context was taken from very testimony that I know you took from as well without further research. First you say she said it then you say she’s just trying to save face. 

She is trying to save face probably to get in line.

Can you point to where she said they have a nuclear program and capabilities of a bomb?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Royalty on June 23, 2025, 02:39:28 PM
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Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 23, 2025, 02:40:54 PM
Iran attacked a US military base today, nobody died or was injured, minimal damage done, and my 401K balance increased. 

Thank you, Iran!   ;D

No one in region is coming to Irans aid, as a matter they’ve pissed off Qatar
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 23, 2025, 02:41:35 PM
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What’s July going to bring?

Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 23, 2025, 02:47:52 PM
Iran has officially responded to our Obliteration of their Nuclear Facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and have very effectively countered. There have been 14 missiles fired — 13 were knocked down, and 1 was “set free,” because it was headed in a nonthreatening direction. I am pleased to report that NO Americans were harmed, and hardly any damage was done. Most importantly, they’ve gotten it all out of their “system,” and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE. I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA"
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 23, 2025, 02:50:26 PM
USA isnt at war with Iran just like japan wasnt at war with the US just a specific naval base!

Looks like Iran has bombed us air bases or attempted to from initial reports. Iran says they are just attacking air bases not the US, so dont retaliate!

I bet you thought the bomb drop was unconstitutional, didn’t you?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Royalty on June 23, 2025, 02:59:40 PM
What’s July going to bring?

Yup! 😂
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 23, 2025, 03:01:51 PM
Iran has officially responded to our Obliteration of their Nuclear Facilities with a very weak response, which we expected, and have very effectively countered. There have been 14 missiles fired — 13 were knocked down, and 1 was “set free,” because it was headed in a nonthreatening direction. I am pleased to report that NO Americans were harmed, and hardly any damage was done. Most importantly, they’ve gotten it all out of their “system,” and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE. I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA"


Beautiful.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: GymnJuice on June 23, 2025, 03:04:17 PM
It's too early to tell  ;D

This could be seen as capitulation by Israel and the US just the same. As the analyst I quoted above discerned, Israel can't keep up a war of attrition. The US bombing could be seen as symbolic too, an off-ramp for Israel and Trump, a face saving measure. They gave Iran a heads up it was coming so they could clear out the facilities. Now both sides can claim victory. Fact of the matter is that the nuclear program is still there, and now Iran really might make a rush for the bomb so this doesn't happen again. I imagine Israel isn't happy if this ends here. But will it?

"Trump thanks Iran" Bizarre LOL

If this is the outcome then it is very similar to the India/Pakistan conflict. Both sides do minimal damage to each other, appease the war hawks in their own countries (at least in the US if not Israel), and bow out at an appropriate time to "save face."
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 03:40:39 PM
The analysts you listen to are akin to listening to dieting advice from Shizzo or relationship advice from Brian.

I told you it would be over very soon like 5 days, I told you bunker buster bombs would end this and that Iran would throw a few bombs about and then negotiate.

Flexacon > your analysts

I listen to the various sides, but of course I have my biases, as does everyone. You have a mighty high opinion of yourself. You are celebrating some kind of win way too prematurely IMHO. All sides have been nervous and uncertain, except for you, you knew exactly what would happen and will happen in the future :D I have never claimed to be a prophet. I know if I were Iranian, especially a cleric or a IRGC general I wouldn’t trust any peace offering or ceasefire agreement coming from Israel or the US. As much as Trump has lied recently about deals and negotiations anyone trusting him would be an absolute moron.
I very much doubt the US will be confident about Iran’s nuclear program having been destroyed or even set back years or decades. IMO Trump is praying his presidency wont be marred by a big war, that’s why he’s thanking Iran, pretty pathetic if you ask me. I don’t know if you’re a hardcore Trumpist and MAGA loyalist but many come dangerously close to idol worship. Again just IMHO :D

If this is the outcome then it is very similar to the India/Pakistan conflict. Both sides do minimal damage to each other, appease the war hawks in their own countries (at least in the US if not Israel), and bow out at an appropriate time to "save face."

Yup, though I think there are many potential flashpoints now. No one can predict what will come with any confidence IMO.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: illuminati on June 23, 2025, 04:00:34 PM
I PREDICT CEASEFIRE & END TO THE FIGHTING
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 04:05:27 PM
I PREDICT CEASEFIRE & END TO THE FIGHTING

I predict a tenuous ceasefire and that the assassinations will continue  :D

Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: B_B_C on June 23, 2025, 04:08:31 PM
I PREDICT CEASEFIRE & END TO THE FIGHTING

I predict that Mr Trump will milk the warmongering for attention and distraction
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Flexacon on June 23, 2025, 04:12:00 PM
I listen to the various sides, but of course I have my biases, as does everyone. You have a mighty high opinion of yourself. You are celebrating some kind of win way too prematurely IMHO. All sides have been nervous and uncertain, except for you, you knew exactly what would happen and will happen in the future :D I have never claimed to be a prophet.

You spent all your free time these past few weeks trying to analyse and make sense of all this and got it horribly wrong

And now you're mad at me for confidently telling you the near exact path things would take. This sounds completely like a you problem Van

I mean you should be thanking me for trying to save you from all those fake analysts who clearly know jack shit :D

Also don't mind me I'm just gloating in typical getbig style. Don't take it personally
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 23, 2025, 04:19:15 PM
You spent all your free time these past few weeks trying to analyse and make sense of all this and got it horribly wrong

And now you're mad at me for confidently telling you the near exact path things would take. This sounds completely like a you problem Van

I mean you should be thanking me for trying to save you from all those fake analysts who clearly know jack shit :D

Also don't mind me I'm just gloating in typical getbig style. Don't take it personally

I should have said I’m also not attacking you personally. It’s all supposed to be in good humor but tone can’t be heard in text. I’m not taking it personally. I feel confident we will return to this topic again... and again  8)

One of the stupido fake analysts I like, if anyone cares. I recommend 1.5 or higher playback speed 8)



Financial Times article, highly recommended

https://archive.is/UkbSt#selection-2089.0-2093.243

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Nephew said the “unknowns here are killing us a little bit”.
“If they’ve got a uranium conversion line set up . . . and if they were able to enrich up to 90 per cent at Fordow before it was attacked, and they had eight or nine days, that’s potentially enough for two bombs worth of 90 per cent,” he said.

Sima Shine, a former Iran specialist at Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, said she was convinced Iran had moved enriched material.
“They have enough enriched uranium somewhere, and they took some advanced centrifuges somewhere, in order to enable them to some day go to a nuclear device,” Shine said. “The programme is not destroyed completely, no matter what the Americans say.”

Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: loco on June 23, 2025, 04:59:37 PM
Trump announces Israel-Iran ceasefire

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-announces-israel-iran-ceasefire-222500775.html
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: IroNat on June 23, 2025, 05:41:37 PM
I should have said I’m also not attacking you personally. It’s all supposed to be in good humor but tone can’t be heard in text. I’m not taking it personally. I feel confident we will return to this topic again... and again  8)

One of the stupido fake analysts I like, if anyone cares. I recommend 1.5 or higher playback speed 8)



Financial Times article, highly recommended

https://archive.is/UkbSt#selection-2089.0-2093.243



I listen to Mercouris and also the Duran all the time.

Those guys are shills for Russia and China though.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Bevo on June 23, 2025, 05:56:44 PM
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No difference from going from Mike Mentzer, Mike Quinn, and now Mike Francois
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Never1AShow on June 23, 2025, 06:32:12 PM
If this is the outcome then it is very similar to the India/Pakistan conflict. Both sides do minimal damage to each other, appease the war hawks in their own countries (at least in the US if not Israel), and bow out at an appropriate time to "save face."

Israel and the US achieved much more than either side there. Taking out Iran nuclear program and a bunch of leadership and missile capacity, much more.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Flexacon on June 23, 2025, 07:18:07 PM
Israel and the US achieved much more than either side there. Taking out Iran nuclear program and a bunch of leadership and missile capacity, much more.

And Iran funded proxies across in Syria, Iraq, Yeman, Hamas, Hezbollah etc have all already been systematically dismantled. Also Arab states want to have closer trading ties with Israel.

People with no links to those regions were agonizing and doom posting over WWIII when they should have been max bidding risk assets. Stability in the middle east and rate cuts in q4 will have everyone who did dancing like it's 1999
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Flexacon on June 23, 2025, 08:10:00 PM
I feel confident we will return to this topic again... and again  8)


VB praying for some weak escalation just to save face  ;D

The Iran of getbig lmao
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: GymnJuice on June 24, 2025, 04:43:13 AM
Israel and the US achieved much more than either side there. Taking out Iran nuclear program and a bunch of leadership and missile capacity, much more.

No doubt they took out loads of Iranian leadership. It is astonishing how Israel is able to decimate Iran's leaders year after year, and the Iranians can't do anything about it. I am not convinced that they've taken out the Iranian nuclear program. I could be wrong, of course, but I think this is probably overstated.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Donny on June 24, 2025, 04:59:24 AM
No doubt they took out loads of Iranian leadership. It is astonishing how Israel is able to decimate Iran's leaders year after year, and the Iranians can't do anything about it. I am not convinced that they've taken out the Iranian nuclear program. I could be wrong, of course, but I think this is probably overstated.
I saw yesterday on TV pictures that showed they probably did move materials before the strike ...like i wrote before they aint gonna just sit with their finger in their arses waiting for Trump to Bomb them  ::)
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Kwon on June 24, 2025, 07:03:14 AM
Russia and China wont do shit for Iran tho right?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: _bruce_ on June 24, 2025, 07:29:03 AM
It's said this bombing has been rehearsed with joint exercises like 2-3 times during the Biden admin. Of course you have to adapt it to the exact circumstances but this was a long time coming. A former CIA fella says Netanyahu has demanded several US Presidents bomb Iran, and the others said no and Trump finally did it. The fella says Israelis are hated in the CIA, while they are loved on Capitol Hill. Claims Obama and other Presidents hated Bibi and wouldn't even see him if he was in Washington but Bibi knew he owned Capitol Hill and was always received as a hero. Claimed Israelis were banned from CIA headquarters and they had a special location just for those meeting. The reason being Israelis always come with gifts and they always had listening devices put in the gifts :D

&t=896s

Presidents are there for 4-8 years but the Deep State works on a longer time scale, CIA heads can be on their posts for decades. Trump only has 3 years left and whatever the Deep State works towards, if Trump goes against them, they can wait it out.

"They will just do it again"... the exact thing Trump is praying won't be necessary. But it will be necessary.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 24, 2025, 10:27:58 AM
I listen to Mercouris and also the Duran all the time.

Those guys are shills for Russia and China though.

Mercouris' fidgeting is almost unbearable. I have to watch something else and just listen at 2.0 playback speed.

Everyone has their biases and are shills for something. I'm the resident Muslim and Iran shill.

VB praying for some weak escalation just to save face  ;D

The Iran of getbig lmao


The Finnish Iran and Muslim lover. I've had to set aside my personal grievances towards Iranians. The other day I even listened to a couple of Iranian songs I heard in a tiktok clip.

The war is still on... Trump is providing lots of LOLs though, which is why prior to the election I said on here if I was an American I would vote for him just for that :D

LISTEN

BcDMA
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 24, 2025, 10:39:23 AM
Trump announces Israel-Iran ceasefire

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-announces-israel-iran-ceasefire-222500775.html

Turns out the orange turd was trying to take credit for something he had no part of.  How typical.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: loco on June 24, 2025, 10:45:52 AM
Turns out the orange turd was trying to take credit for something he had no part of.  How typical.

June 20, before the US bombed Iran:

Diplomacy with Iran can “easily” be started again if US President Donald Trump orders Israel’s leadership to stop its strikes on Iran, Majid Farahani, an official with the Iranian presidency told CNN on Friday.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/20/middleeast/iran-israel-conflict-trump-intl-latam
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 24, 2025, 02:48:47 PM
June 20, before the US bombed Iran:

Diplomacy with Iran can “easily” be started again if US President Donald Trump orders Israel’s leadership to stop its strikes on Iran, Majid Farahani, an official with the Iranian presidency told CNN on Friday.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/20/middleeast/iran-israel-conflict-trump-intl-latam

That has zero to do with what my post was about.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 24, 2025, 02:52:35 PM
How's that feel going from "obliterated", to realizing they were not destroyed and instead only set whatever program Iran had at the time back a couple of months?
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2025, 04:01:04 PM
Turns out the orange turd was trying to take credit for something he had no part of.  How typical.

Let it go. It's the that type of rhetoric the Democratic party is literally barely hanging by a thread and you still fall for it. Sad
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: IroNat on June 24, 2025, 04:13:32 PM
Mercouris' fidgeting is almost unbearable. I have to watch something else and just listen at 2.0 playback speed.

Everyone has their biases and are shills for something. I'm the resident Muslim and Iran shill.

The Finnish Iran and Muslim lover. I've had to set aside my personal grievances towards Iranians. The other day I even listened to a couple of Iranian songs I heard in a tiktok clip.

The war is still on... Trump is providing lots of LOLs though, which is why prior to the election I said on here if I was an American I would vote for him just for that :D


  ;D
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: IroNat on June 24, 2025, 04:15:44 PM
Turns out the orange turd was trying to take credit for something he had no part of.  How typical.

No.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: loco on June 24, 2025, 04:27:06 PM
That has zero to do with what my post was about.

I see you're following in the footsteps of OAK and funk. 
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: loco on June 24, 2025, 05:06:58 PM


Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Never1AShow on June 24, 2025, 05:24:36 PM
Let it go. It's the that type of rhetoric the Democratic party is literally barely hanging by a thread and you still fall for it. Sad

No one can even say who the leader of the Ds is at this point 8 month after they had their asses handed to them Bigly in November.  Dem spin machine MSM pushing phonied up leaked IC horseshit. They’re desperate but some fools are just looking for anything to cling to.
Title: Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
Post by: Kwon on June 24, 2025, 05:38:10 PM
Trump GETS Credit for everything that has happened so far.

He does not need to take it.