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Socialism = communism?
We have a lot of socialism in this country already - like Social Security - most of it supported by Trump.
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Socialism = communism?
We have a lot of socialism in this country already - like Social Security - most of it supported by Trump.
MAGAtards - especially Coach - can't tell the difference between the -isms and the -ists. You have to just let them pander on unaware.
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MAGAtards - especially Coach - can't tell the difference between the -isms and the -ists. You have to just let them pander on unaware.
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MAGAtards - especially Coach - can't tell the difference between the -isms and the -ists. You have to just let them pander on unaware.
Screaming communist at everyone is what boomers without a clue do. I'm not a commie sympathiser but it's true nonetheless.
Would be funny if Trump started going after communists and socialists. Would have to clear out all the institutions of higher learning. Would immediately be called out as antisemitism as well, because Jew equals communism a lot of the time.
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How many more years until you correctly guess your first gimmick?
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Screaming communist at everyone is what boomers without a clue do. I'm not a commie sympathiser but it's true nonetheless.
Same with Nazi, Racist, etc, which the Millenials and Gen Z do.
However, when a candidate directly quotes the communist manifesto, I think it's ok to call them communist.
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How many more years until you correctly guess your first gimmick?
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Coach, what about all the congressmen and women who hold Israeli dual citizenship? Is that what this in regards to?
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Same with Nazi, Racist, etc, which the Millenials and Gen Z do.
However, when a candidate directly quotes the communist manifesto, I think it's ok to call them communist.
This^ Every fucking lib cries Nazi or rascist whenever they get their panties in a bunch. Which is all the time because they are pussies.
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This^ Every fucking lib cries Nazi or rascist whenever they get their panties in a bunch. Which is all the time because they are pussies.
I just answer Yes I am & what about it 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Tends to boil them up even more, worthless Khvnts.
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Does the binky quieten the voices you claim you hear in your head?
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Same with Nazi, Racist, etc, which the Millenials and Gen Z do.
However, when a candidate directly quotes the communist manifesto, I think it's ok to call them communist.
This^ Every fucking lib cries Nazi or rascist whenever they get their panties in a bunch. Which is all the time because they are pussies.
Yeah, this got old fast. But it's the same with the right calling everyone they disagree with a communist. It's all old and played out. People need to wake up and realize that the vast majority of us are closer to the center than we want to admit. The media separates us by promoting the extremes for views.
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Yeah, this got old fast. But it's the same with the right calling everyone they disagree with a communist. It's all old and played out. People need to wake up and realize that the vast majority of us are closer to the center than we want to admit. The media separates us by promoting the extremes for views.
That's a great post Chaos. Very honest.
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That's a great post Chaos. Very honest.
Settle down libtardG. :D
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MAGAtards - especially Coach - can't tell the difference between the -isms and the -ists. You have to just let them pander on unaware.
You should really stay out of politics. After the what’s happened over the last four years you couldn’t embarrass yourself anymore and you can’t even realize it.
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Yeah, this got old fast. But it's the same with the right calling everyone they disagree with a communist. It's all old and played out. People need to wake up and realize that the vast majority of us are closer to the center than we want to admit. The media separates us by promoting the extremes for views.
IMO it Depends. Actions and policy decisions speaks volumes.
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Deporting Americans for their political beliefs would fly in the face of everything our Constitution and our founding fathers stood for.
Granted, Coach only cares about the US Constitution when it’s convenient for him, but I still think it should be mentioned.
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Deporting Americans for their political beliefs would fly in the face of everything our Constitution and our founding fathers stood for.
Granted, Coach only cares about the US Constitution when it’s convenient for him, but I still think it should be mentioned.
Not for their beliefs but for them being implemented. You can THINK whatever you want, no one is stopping you but when you can’t recognize what’s been going on for AT LEAST the last four years prior to Trump then you’ll never get it.
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Settle down libtardG. :D
No more dick pics for you.
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Modern socialism is so far left that could be consider comunism, or at least the line between the two is very blurry. It was a smart move.
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You should really stay out of politics. After the what’s happened over the last four years you couldn’t embarrass yourself anymore and you can’t even realize it.
Says the birther who believed in stolen elections.
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No more dick pics for you.
This is getbig, there is always more.
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The US is a socialist country. The federal budget is essentially comprised of three things - Social Security, Medicare, and defense, which has largely become a social welfare program. The balance of the expenditures are marginal although the larger ones are also socialist-like programs, such as federal pensions.
To the extent the US is a “capitalist” country it is in reality a crony-capitalist system run by a relatively small group of oligarchs who control Congress, the courts, and yes, even the god Trump.
The so-called BBB being a prime example of just how socialist the US has become. A US politician from the 1940s or earlier would assume we were a communist country if he looked at the federal budget.
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The US is a socialist country. The federal budget is essentially comprised of three things - Social Security, Medicare, and defense, which has largely become a social welfare program. The balance of the expenditures are marginal although the larger ones are also socialist-like programs, such as federal pensions.
To the extent the US is a “capitalist” country it is in reality a crony-capitalist system run by a relatively small group of oligarchs who control Congress, the courts, and yes, even the god Trump.
The so-called BBB being a prime example of just how socialist the US has become. A US politician from the 1940s or earlier would assume we were a communist country if he looked at the federal budget.
Actually, it is hard to argue that Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs since you pay for them with your own money.
A better way of looking at it would be as a Ponzi scheme. Because of the number of people that pay into it and die before they can draw from it. Or just by the nature that you (or most people) will never draw the full amount that they pay into it.
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Such Eisenhower era presidential orders is how they try to keep all UAP relation information, retrieval and reverse engineering programs from congress and many presidents. Probably illegal / unconstitutional, but they so far have been getting away with it.
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IMO it Depends. Actions and policy decisions speaks volumes.
Is it the case that given the huge subsidies (handouts) given to his companies and his present disloyal behaviour is Elon Musk now a Socialist ?
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Actually, it is hard to argue that Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs since you pay for them with your own money.
A better way of looking at it would be as a Ponzi scheme. Because of the number of people that pay into it and die before they can draw from it. Or just by the nature that you (or most people) will never draw the full amount that they pay into it.
Where would money for socialist programs come from? Schools are socialist programs paid for by taxes that could also be considered a Ponzi scheme.
On paper social security and Medicare should work, there were more baby boomers paying into the program than there were people using the services. Those funds should have been making income to supply those who are now drawing from it.
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Where would money for socialist programs come from? Schools are socialist programs paid for by taxes that could also be considered a Ponzi scheme.
On paper social security and Medicare should work, there were more baby boomers paying into the program than there were people using the services. Those funds should have been making income to supply those who are now drawing from it.
True but (as you know) there is no "fund" set aside to pay benefits.
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Says the birther who believed in stolen elections.
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Is it the case that given the huge subsidies (handouts) given to his companies and his present disloyal behaviour is Elon Musk now a Socialist ?
That’s not socialism. The same way an SBA loan isn’t socialism. While you’re at it, might want to take some time to educate yourself. It’s a very good read.
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Actually, it is hard to argue that Social Security and Medicare are socialist programs since you pay for them with your own money.
A better way of looking at it would be as a Ponzi scheme. Because of the number of people that pay into it and die before they can draw from it. Or just by the nature that you (or most people) will never draw the full amount that they pay into it.
Everything in socialist countries is paid for with the people’s money (or labor). Same thing.
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Is it the case that given the huge subsidies (handouts) given to his companies and his present disloyal behaviour is Elon Musk now a Socialist ?
He’s the epitome of a crony-capitalist.
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He’s the epitome of a crony-capitalist.
How would you propose raising capitol for a car manufacturing company and a space program?
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How would you propose raising capitol for a car manufacturing company and a space program?
Is this a serious question?
Through private entities with no government involvement in the way of subsidies, tax benefits, or other ways in which socialist countries pick winners in industry. Henry Ford did alright without socialism.
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Everything in socialist countries is paid for with the people’s money (or labor). Same thing.
Even socialist societies would have a hierarchy of power , which defeats the point of socialism
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Where would money for socialist programs come from? Schools are socialist programs paid for by taxes that could also be considered a Ponzi scheme.
On paper social security and Medicare should work, there were more baby boomers paying into the program than there were people using the services. Those funds should have been making income to supply those who are now drawing from it.
Exactly. Because on paper, SS and Medicare are not paying for socialist programs. They are designed to benefit the people paying into the system. (people dying before collecting aside for the moment)
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Everything in socialist countries is paid for with the people’s money (or labor). Same thing.
The point I am making is that Social Security and Medicare by design are not taking money from people to pay for roads and such. They are designed to be used by and for the people paying into the system.
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That’s not socialism. The same way an SBA loan isn’t socialism.
You obviously do not understand the difference between subsidies and loans. Which is not a surprise at all.
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The point I am making is that Social Security and Medicare by design are not taking money from people to pay for roads and such. They are designed to be used by and for the people paying into the system.
they pretend taxation and national insurances are different pots but the government just spends money as it sees fit, its one big fucking pot they piss away
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You obviously do not understand the difference between subsidies and loans. Which is not a surprise at all.
I absolutely do. Tesla was a $465 million loan from the Department of Energy vehicles and manufacturing that was paid back in full. Space X works on Government contracts that doesn't need to be paid back because the funds are for delivered services. Both have some subsidies. Tesla with tax credits and grants (like every electric car manufacturer).
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Is this a serious question?
Through private entities with no government involvement in the way of subsidies, tax benefits, or other ways in which socialist countries pick winners in industry. Henry Ford did alright without socialism.
Yeah, dead serious. I can't believe you compared Henry Ford to today's manufacturers.
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That’s not socialism. The same way an SBA loan isn’t socialism. While you’re at it, might want to take some time to educate yourself. It’s a very good read.
a loan from the government that would otherwise not be available from commercial lenders is a subsidy
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Exactly. Because on paper, SS and Medicare are not paying for socialist programs. They are designed to benefit the people paying into the system. (people dying before collecting aside for the moment)
I’m not sure what you’re saying.
The money is coming from the people, the tax is paying for the program. You think because some people die before they are able to collect the system is a fraud? Some people live longer and collect much more from the programs than they paid into it.
The point I am making is that Social Security and Medicare by design are not taking money from people to pay for roads and such. They are designed to be used by and for the people paying into the system.
We agree here. I don’t think anyone believes the these taxes are used to fund roads or government construction projects or snap benefits.
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You obviously do not understand the difference between subsidies and loans. Which is not a surprise at all.
Why do you have to play this dumbass game that all liberals do - pretend you are the smartest person in the room just to denigrate someone you don't agree with?
I enjoy your travel and gym posts - very entertaining. You don't need to do this patronizing shit.
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Why do you have to play this dumbass game that all liberals do - pretend you are the smartest person in the room just to denigrate someone you don't agree with?
I enjoy your travel and gym posts - very entertaining. You don't need to do this patronizing shit.
Pointing out the obvious which shouldn't be painful. Don't get butt hurt.
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I’m not sure what you’re saying.
The money is coming from the people, the tax is paying for the program. You think because some people die before they are able to collect the system is a fraud? Some people live longer and collect much more from the programs than they paid into it.
We agree here. I don’t think anyone believes the these taxes are used to fund roads or government construction projects or snap benefits.
No. I am saying that to point out that my prior claim of SS and Medicare based on more of a Ponzi scheme structure than a socialism one. Some people pay in and get nothing in return (they die early), some people pay in and get more in return (exceeding life time vs return amount). But in neither case can these programs be viewed as socialism.
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I absolutely do. Tesla was a $465 million loan from the Department of Energy vehicles and manufacturing that was paid back in full. Space X works on Government contracts that doesn't need to be paid back because the funds are for delivered services. Both have some subsidies. Tesla with tax credits and grants (like every electric car manufacturer).
You absolutely don't.
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No. I am saying that to point out that my prior claim of SS and Medicare based on more of a Ponzi scheme structure than a socialism one. Some people pay in and get nothing in return (they die early), some people pay in and get more in return (exceeding life time vs return amount). But in neither case can these programs be viewed as socialism.
We will agree to disagree on social security.
But someone needs to get the conservatives to stop influencing googles AI:
Yes, Social Security is considered a form of socialism because it is a government-run program that provides financial support to individuals, particularly retirees, funded through taxes. It represents government intervention in the economy to ensure a basic standard of living for citizens. hoover.org atlassociety.org
Medicaid can be considered a form of socialism because it is a government-run program that provides health care to low-income individuals, funded by taxpayer dollars. However, it differs from pure socialism as it allows for private healthcare providers to operate alongside the program.
Medicare is not considered socialism; it is a publicly funded health insurance program that provides coverage for seniors and certain disabled individuals in the U.S. While it involves government funding, it does not operate hospitals or employ healthcare workers, which are characteristics of socialized medicine
Apparently Medicare
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Why do you have to play this dumbass game that all liberals do - pretend you are the smartest person in the room just to denigrate someone you don't agree with?
I enjoy your travel and gym posts - very entertaining. You don't need to do this patronizing shit.
You gonna cry or something? I thought liberals were the sensitive snowflakes, but MajorDomo is over here weeping all over some posts. Embarrassing.
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We will agree to disagree on social security.
But someone needs to get the conservatives to stop influencing googles AI:
Yes, Social Security is considered a form of socialism because it is a government-run program that provides financial support to individuals, particularly retirees, funded through taxes. It represents government intervention in the economy to ensure a basic standard of living for citizens. hoover.org atlassociety.org
Medicaid can be considered a form of socialism because it is a government-run program that provides health care to low-income individuals, funded by taxpayer dollars. However, it differs from pure socialism as it allows for private healthcare providers to operate alongside the program.
Medicare is not considered socialism; it is a publicly funded health insurance program that provides coverage for seniors and certain disabled individuals in the U.S. While it involves government funding, it does not operate hospitals or employ healthcare workers, which are characteristics of socialized medicine
Apparently Medicare
It is gov't run, but funded by the individual's own contributions. They are leaving that part out. My social security will be based on what I paid into the system. From MY earnings only. It's not like other people are contributing to the check amount I will be getting. Everyone is paying the system, yes, but the system is paying only what they are putting into in return.
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That’s not socialism. The same way an SBA loan isn’t socialism. While you’re at it, might want to take some time to educate yourself. It’s a very good read.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/10/pentagon-to-become-largest-shareholder-in-rare-earth-magnet-maker-mp-materials.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/10/pentagon-to-become-largest-shareholder-in-rare-earth-magnet-maker-mp-materials.html)
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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/15/apple-mp-materials-magnets-rare-earths.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/15/apple-mp-materials-magnets-rare-earths.html)
The government spent $400 million, but now controls $900 million-worth of MP because Apple has agreed to become its junior partner in the venture.
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It is gov't run, but funded by the individual's own contributions. They are leaving that part out. My social security will be based on what I paid into the system. From MY earnings only. It's not like other people are contributing to the check amount I will be getting. Everyone is paying the system, yes, but the system is paying only what they are putting into in return.
I know it’s been said, but the government isn’t investing our money. They should, but don’t, and rely on people paying into the scheme which is why we have to keep importing people to pay into it to support the boomers.
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rely on people paying into the scheme which is why we have to keep importing people to pay into it to support the boomers.
don't fret so
mass deportation will eliminate that reliance
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don't fret so
mass deportation will eliminate that reliance
It's definitely helped with traffic on the roads and the amount of people in the stores. :D
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I know it’s been said, but the government isn’t investing our money. They should, but don’t, and rely on people paying into the scheme which is why we have to keep importing people to pay into it to support the boomers.
Again, this is why it more closely resembles the structure of a Ponzi scheme.
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It is gov't run, but funded by the individual's own contributions. They are leaving that part out. My social security will be based on what I paid into the system. From MY earnings only. It's not like other people are contributing to the check amount I will be getting. Everyone is paying the system, yes, but the system is paying only what they are putting into in return.
Yup. And it’s still a government based “social” insurance program. We have no say in how the funds are manage. Yes you have to meet requirements to collect and the formula on what you receive is based on your contribution and when you .
Just because it’s not the same for everyone regardless of what they pay doesn’t takeaway from the fact that it’s a government controlled program, set up for the individuals safety.
It’s the argument that America isn’t a pure capitalist environment because of government regulations, progressive taxing and social safety nets. We aren’t a pure capitalist economy and social security isn’t a pure socialism plan.