Bought these Saturday at the Vitamin Shoppe $1 sale (and a couple of his pre workout formulas - which I haven't tried) and I have to say these are really very good taste wise. The Root Beer tastes just like a Barqs root beer cola. The grape tastes like Fanta. 5 stars for taste. Contents? Well only 112mg of caffeine. Which some people are not going to be happy with, but for me is perfect. A BANG of C4 usually lasts me 3 days because I only drink 1/3(ish) per morning. So these are exactly what suits me best although I can understand people wanting more sizzle in it for them.
Verdict : Great for the $1 price, would not pay $2.99 for them unless the caffeine was boosted.
3 bucks is a stiff price. Looked at the ingredients and it does contain a good dose of Citicholine so there's that. Something like Huperzine-A would be felt more but could cause sides. Tyrosine or NALT could be a good addition for these. Usually energy drinks aren't worth the money IMO since it's just flavoring and caffeine, unless the taste is worth the money. Coffee is stronger and more economic plus it's a good source of antioxidants.
My brother bought a PWO which has 350mg of caffeine and said it was bunk as he didn't feel shit. Had a high dose of beta-alanine, tyrosine etc too. I got the nasty itching and it was too "strong" for my taste due to the caffeine mega dose, don't know wtf he was talking about.
You consider 350mgs to be mega dosing? Are you sensitive to caffiene?
What’s everyone’s daily caffeine intake?
I’m about 300-350 mg
Don’t like coffee so drink pre workout in the am
Double scoop always
You consider 350mgs to be mega dosing? Are you sensitive to caffiene?
It is a megadose IMO, it's too much for most people and will leave them feeling sick. Now let me tell you I'm no stranger to real monster dosages. At 15-16 years old already I was regularly taking 1,500mg of caffeine before workouts!!! I like getting really stimmed but caffeine feels dirty. I love actual amphetamines and other stims that release a lot of dopamine or block its reuptake such as Ritalin and which hit the nervous system more cleanly without making you feeling sick with a lot of anxiety. One mild stim which is non-exhausting on the CNS is bromantane and I like it a lot. One Aussie fella here tried it after I talked about and he thought it was great. I think you can probably get a hold of it easily in case you'd like to try it 8)
I don't consider that much, it's just one heaped scoop of pre or a couple coffees.
Is ephedrine at all available where you're at?
We used to get eca here but not for a long while, ephedrine is fantastic, I have used liquid ephedrine in the states.
Citrulline works well with a single cup of filter (5g citrulline in a separate kool aid like drink (Isotonic Game Cherry Berry)), like super actual proper well. Next step is adding Arginine and Beta Alanine (I have beetroot powder and should kinda do that as well but it is gross)
Sorry for the peanut gallery comment - but I do stand by the above in terms of increasing workout intensity.
It is a megadose IMO, it's too much for most people and will leave them feeling sick. Now let me tell you I'm no stranger to real monster dosages. At 15-16 years old already I was regularly taking 1,500mg of caffeine before workouts!!! I like getting really stimmed but caffeine feels dirty. I love actual amphetamines and other stims that release a lot of dopamine or block its reuptake such as Ritalin and which hit the nervous system more cleanly without making you feeling sick with a lot of anxiety. One mild stim which is non-exhausting on the CNS is bromantane and I like it a lot. One Aussie fella here tried it after I talked about and he thought it was great. I think you can probably get a hold of it easily in case you'd like to try it 8)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromantane
Maybe Lurker might want to give it a test too? Or perhaps beakdoctor? It's available from some supp manufacturers.
What’s everyone’s daily caffeine intake?
I’m about 300-350 mg
Don’t like coffee so drink pre workout in the am
Double scoop always
Do you have a link for purchasing in the US?
I did a quick-ish search but can't vouch for any suppliers. Several apparent US powder suppliers but you might not want to mess with those, though all you'd need is cheap milligram scale, would be cheaper than caps. One capsule manufacturer I saw was out.
These were out:
https://swisschems.is/product-category/nootropics/
3-4 coffees, occasional pre workout or monsterSame here with the coffee.
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It is a megadose IMO, it's too much for most people and will leave them feeling sick. Now let me tell you I'm no stranger to real monster dosages. At 15-16 years old already I was regularly taking 1,500mg of caffeine before workouts!!! I like getting really stimmed but caffeine feels dirty. I love actual amphetamines and other stims that release a lot of dopamine or block its reuptake such as Ritalin and which hit the nervous system more cleanly without making you feeling sick with a lot of anxiety. One mild stim which is non-exhausting on the CNS is bromantane and I like it a lot. One Aussie fella here tried it after I talked about and he thought it was great. I think you can probably get a hold of it easily in case you'd like to try it 8)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromantane
Maybe Lurker might want to give it a test too? Or perhaps beakdoctor? It's available from some supp manufacturers.
I wonder if Thailand has an equivalent. I will be there in two weeks and the pharmacies that sell gear normally all kinds of supps on the shelves too. Which the experiences I have had with has been hit and miss. (Like protein powder samples, that one energy drink that I could have fueled my car with for six months, etc..)
I tried Bromantane along with 9 me bc, in both the powder and liquid forms. Bromantane was a nice lift off. Subtle, clean. Didn't hit me really hard. Of course Im a fan of most stims. The only stim I cannot tolerate is Alpha Yohimbe. Gives me crippling anxiety plus it feels like I constantly need to piss whenever I use it, and I get cold sweats. I had Alpha Yohimbe.
I will say the more I used Bromantane, the more I began to like it. But ran out and didn't order any more.
As far as a good pre-workout Gorilla Mind RTD is great. Especially f or not having DMAA or DMHA in it. Usually one of those is a staple in any pre-workout for me. But Gorilla Mind is surprisingly strong, long lasting and no DMAA/DMHA and only 200 mgs caffeine. I looked at the ingredients and can't say exactly what makes it work so well. There's nothing I haven't had before but in this particular combination, its a very solid pwo.
3 bucks is a stiff price. Looked at the ingredients and it does contain a good dose of Citicholine so there's that. Something like Huperzine-A would be felt more but could cause sides. Tyrosine or NALT could be a good addition for these.
I think so. I don't know if Vigorous Steve answers messages or mails but he lives there and he uses bromantane daily so might check with him.
I've read user reports on reddit for example where some used much higher dosages of bromantane for a bigger effect. But it's pretty expensive so I didn't try higher doses. It does build up over time. You can feel a libido increase too and shorter refractory period due to the resultant prolactin reduction from the dopamine. 9-me-bc is subtle but I can feel a dopamine boost. A few years ago I came off a longer run of Vyvanse and moved to both these stacked at the same time and it was almost like a replacement, some days I even felt overstimulated, pretty strange.
I looked at Gorilla Mind. The Lightning High Stim version looks like it might deliver, tried it? The RTD incidentally contains the NALT and huperzine which I mentioned before would work great in energy drinks :D
I used all kinds of forms of Tyrosine and Tyramine and they do produce the "focus" that's marketed in pre-workouts. Ive tried Huperzine on its own and in ive used pre-workouts that have it. Never noticed much from super zine but so many of the nootropics are useless if you don't combine them with some kind of precursor that makes it more bioavailable.
Ive tried a few of C Bums energy drinks. I don't know the difference. Some come in cans some in plastic bottles, some are stim free, some have close to 400 mgs of caffeine. One pre-workout, Total War, has over 400 mgs of caffeine. In my opinion C Bums energy drinks are average.
Root Beer
Grape
Blue Lemonade
Hard To Kill
Pink Lemonade
Cola - tastes like a diet cola
We actually sell every flavor of BUM Energy, I think there are more than 16 flavors now, including the new one Creme Soda. In terms of energy drinks, they are in the top 5 right now on the market for us.
We actually sell every flavor of BUM Energy, I think there are more than 16 flavors now, including the new one Creme Soda. In terms of energy drinks, they are in the top 5 right now on the market for us.
We actually sell every flavor of BUM Energy, I think there are more than 16 flavors now, including the new one Creme Soda. In terms of energy drinks, they are in the top 5 right now on the market for us.Ron: Do you have an online supplement store? If so, I would rather give you my business vs others.
I must be out of the loop. Do you have a supplement store, Ron?I would like to know as well!