Bum Energy

[Humble Narcissist]

3-4 coffees, occasional pre workout or monster

Same here with the coffee.

[Kwon]

[LurkerNoMore]

Fail.

[beakdoctor]

It is a megadose IMO, it's too much for most people and will leave them feeling sick. Now let me tell you I'm no stranger to real monster dosages. At 15-16 years old already I was regularly taking 1,500mg of caffeine before workouts!!! I like getting really stimmed but caffeine feels dirty. I love actual amphetamines and other stims that release a lot of dopamine or block its reuptake such as Ritalin and which hit the nervous system more cleanly without making you feeling sick with a lot of anxiety. One mild stim which is non-exhausting on the CNS is bromantane and I like it a lot. One Aussie fella here tried it after I talked about and he thought it was great. I think you can probably get a hold of it easily in case you'd like to try it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromantane

Maybe Lurker might want to give it a test too? Or perhaps beakdoctor? It's available from some supp manufacturers.

I tried Bromantane along with 9 me bc, in both the powder and liquid forms. Bromantane was a nice lift off. Subtle, clean. Didn't hit me really hard. Of course Im a fan of most stims. The only stim I cannot tolerate is Alpha Yohimbe. Gives me crippling anxiety plus it feels like I constantly need to piss whenever I use it, and I get cold sweats.  I had Alpha Yohimbe.

I will say the more I used Bromantane,  the more I began to like it. But ran out and didn't order any more.

As far as a good pre-workout Gorilla Mind RTD is great. Especially f or not having DMAA or DMHA in it. Usually one of those is a staple in any pre-workout for me. But Gorilla Mind is surprisingly strong, long lasting and no DMAA/DMHA and only 200 mgs caffeine.  I looked at the ingredients and can't say exactly what makes it work so well. There's nothing I haven't had before but in this particular combination,  its a very solid pwo.

[Van_Bilderass]

I wonder if Thailand has an equivalent.   I will be there in two weeks and the pharmacies that sell gear normally all kinds of supps on the shelves too.  Which the experiences I have had with has been hit and miss.  (Like protein powder samples, that one energy drink that I could have fueled my car with for six months, etc..)

I think so. I don't know if Vigorous Steve answers messages or mails but he lives there and he uses bromantane daily so might check with him.

I tried Bromantane along with 9 me bc, in both the powder and liquid forms. Bromantane was a nice lift off. Subtle, clean. Didn't hit me really hard. Of course Im a fan of most stims. The only stim I cannot tolerate is Alpha Yohimbe. Gives me crippling anxiety plus it feels like I constantly need to piss whenever I use it, and I get cold sweats.  I had Alpha Yohimbe.

I will say the more I used Bromantane,  the more I began to like it. But ran out and didn't order any more.

As far as a good pre-workout Gorilla Mind RTD is great. Especially f or not having DMAA or DMHA in it. Usually one of those is a staple in any pre-workout for me. But Gorilla Mind is surprisingly strong, long lasting and no DMAA/DMHA and only 200 mgs caffeine.  I looked at the ingredients and can't say exactly what makes it work so well. There's nothing I haven't had before but in this particular combination,  its a very solid pwo.

I've read user reports on reddit for example where some used much higher dosages of bromantane for a bigger effect. But it's pretty expensive so I didn't try higher doses. It does build up over time. You can feel a libido increase too and shorter refractory period due to the resultant prolactin reduction from the dopamine. 9-me-bc is subtle but I can feel a dopamine boost. A few years ago I came off a longer run of Vyvanse and moved to both these stacked at the same time and it was almost like a replacement, some days I even felt overstimulated, pretty strange.

I looked at Gorilla Mind. The Lightning High Stim version looks like it might deliver, tried it? The RTD incidentally contains the NALT and huperzine which I mentioned before would work great in energy drinks

3 bucks is a stiff price. Looked at the ingredients and it does contain a good dose of Citicholine so there's that. Something like Huperzine-A would be felt more but could cause sides. Tyrosine or NALT could be a good addition for these.

[LurkerNoMore]

Ok, on Bum Energy :

Pros :  The taste is fucking awesome.  I have used 6 of the 12 I bought and this is the ranking so far :

Root Beer
Grape
Blue Lemonade
Hard To Kill
Pink Lemonade
Cola - tastes like a diet cola

Cons : only 112mg caffeine per can.  Which is low for some people, but for someone using 1/3 of a Bang per day, it is perfect for me.

Would I purchase again?  Yes.  If it was the $1 sale.  No, it was the $2.99 price.

[beakdoctor]

I think so. I don't know if Vigorous Steve answers messages or mails but he lives there and he uses bromantane daily so might check with him.

I've read user reports on reddit for example where some used much higher dosages of bromantane for a bigger effect. But it's pretty expensive so I didn't try higher doses. It does build up over time. You can feel a libido increase too and shorter refractory period due to the resultant prolactin reduction from the dopamine. 9-me-bc is subtle but I can feel a dopamine boost. A few years ago I came off a longer run of Vyvanse and moved to both these stacked at the same time and it was almost like a replacement, some days I even felt overstimulated, pretty strange.

I looked at Gorilla Mind. The Lightning High Stim version looks like it might deliver, tried it? The RTD incidentally contains the NALT and huperzine which I mentioned before would work great in energy drinks

I used all kinds of forms of Tyrosine and Tyramine and they do produce the "focus" that's marketed in pre-workouts. Ive tried Huperzine on its own and in ive used pre-workouts that have it. Never noticed much from super zine but so many of the nootropics are useless if you don't combine them with some kind of precursor that makes it more bioavailable.

Ive tried a few of C Bums energy drinks. I don't know the difference.  Some come in cans some in plastic bottles, some are stim free, some have close to 400 mgs of caffeine.  One pre-workout,  Total War, has over 400 mgs of caffeine.  In my opinion C Bums energy drinks are average.

[Van_Bilderass]

I used all kinds of forms of Tyrosine and Tyramine and they do produce the "focus" that's marketed in pre-workouts. Ive tried Huperzine on its own and in ive used pre-workouts that have it. Never noticed much from super zine but so many of the nootropics are useless if you don't combine them with some kind of precursor that makes it more bioavailable.
Ive tried a few of C Bums energy drinks. I don't know the difference.  Some come in cans some in plastic bottles, some are stim free, some have close to 400 mgs of caffeine.  One pre-workout,  Total War, has over 400 mgs of caffeine.  In my opinion C Bums energy drinks are average.

I think Huperzine is like yohimbine, overdose it and it's a likely ER visit and a very bad "trip." The Gorilla Mind Lightning contains both; or it's rauwolscine/alpha-yohimbine, but in low doses.

I bought some plain tyrosine and 5 grams noticeably potentiates any stims, Rx or otherwise. That dose is given to cocaine addicts withdrawing to replenish dopamine.

Those caffeine doses don't feel pleasant at all

I never once even felt the caffeine kick of a cup of coffee from a Red Bull or several, or from the million Red Bull copies. Kind of strange, maybe the taurine somehow cancels the caffeine similar to theanine.