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Title: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Kwon on October 13, 2025, 09:53:29 AM
🚨 BREAKING: Trump signs Israel-Hamas peace plan in Egypt alongside world leaders
Read more about the historic deal:

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/gaza-ceasefire-israel-hamas-hostage-release-october-13-2025

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Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 13, 2025, 09:59:40 AM
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Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 13, 2025, 10:08:40 AM
Does this have anything to do with Hadi's placing at the Mr. O or Bill Burr performing at that Saudi comedy show?
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: deadz on October 13, 2025, 10:26:27 AM
Another great accomplishment by our CIC!
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Kwon on October 13, 2025, 10:30:08 AM
Does this have anything to do with Hadi's placing at the Mr. O or Bill Burr performing at that Saudi comedy show?

Yes! Another great accomplishment by our CIC!

Aka The Perpetual KING of KANGZ!


Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: SF1900 on October 13, 2025, 10:37:37 AM
I just wonder how long this will last for before they start a war with each other again.
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 13, 2025, 10:38:42 AM
Yes! Another great accomplishment by our CIC!

Aka The Perpetual KING of KANGZ!

Thank you! How do I upvote your comment?
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Kwon on October 13, 2025, 10:45:31 AM
Thank you! How do I upvote your comment?

I dont need an upvote, i just want you to do your part!

Water down these critters of Peace when you see them!

Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: GymnJuice on October 13, 2025, 11:06:46 AM
I just wonder how long this will last for before they start a war with each other again.

6 months to a year
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: obsidian on October 13, 2025, 11:26:36 AM
I just wonder how long this will last for before they start a war with each other again.
Won't be long. Israel will also not be forgiven for a thousand years for what they've done. Payback will be a bitch.
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 13, 2025, 12:51:45 PM
What's interesting is that even Trump just said Hamas has now sort of been allowed by the US and Israel to sort of keep order in Gaza, for a period of time, so crime doesn't skyrocket and some order is kept. Max Blumenthal says Hamas has been "let" perform these functions throughout the years. Besides, Hamas was empowered by Israel when it first started out, some say it was an outright Israeli creation, opposing PLO or whatever. All I'm saying is things aren't totally black and white, alliances shift. Lately Israel has been arming ISIS linked groups in Gaza to oppose Hamas.

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has confirmed that Israel is arming clans in Gaza that he says are opposed to Hamas.

His comments came after Israeli media reports quoted defence sources as saying Netanyahu had authorised giving weapons to one particular group in the south of Gaza.

Several Israeli politicians have accused Netanyahu of endangering Israeli security.

"What's wrong with this?" Netanyahu says in a short video he's tweeted. "It only saves the lives of Israeli solders", he continues - "and publicising it only helps Hamas".

What the Israeli prime minister is referring to are the reports that Israel under his authorisation has been supplying weapons to a clan in Gaza led by a man called Yasser Abu Shabab.

The group, which some see as a militia or a criminal gang, has presented itself as an opposition force to Hamas.

It says its aim

 is to protect trucks bringing aid into Gaza, but critics say it is doing the opposite and is looting them.https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyn2m9yk0vo

It may be this temporary peace was accomplished due to Israeli overreach when they bombed Qatar. Trump actually forced Netanyahu to apologize to Qatar. It's almost as if Israel bombed the US, seeing as the biggest US military base is in Qatar and the US was guarantor for the safe Hamas-Israel talks there. So now Trump had some leverage on Bibi.

https://theintercept.com/2025/10/11/qatar-trump-gaza-ceasefire/?utm_content=buffer0e59f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=instagram&utm_campaign=theintercept
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: IroNat on October 13, 2025, 12:54:33 PM
From what I've heard neither Israel or Hamas have agreed to all the terms in this agreement.
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 13, 2025, 01:02:52 PM
From what I've heard neither Israel or Hamas have agreed to all the terms in this agreement.

Yes. Just the hostage exchange. IMO the other terms were ridiculous as there is zero agreement and they are unworkable. "The US acknowledges the 'aspirations' of Palestinians for a state" whatever that's supposed to mean. Bibi has said there's never going to be a Palestinian state and the US will go along with that, even though the official line of the US has been a two state solution.
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: joswift on October 13, 2025, 01:11:15 PM
Yes. Just the hostage exchange. IMO the other terms were ridiculous as there is zero agreement and they are unworkable. "The US acknowledges the 'aspirations' of Palestinians for a state" whatever that's supposed to mean. Bibi has said there's never going to be a Palestinian state and the US will go along with that, even though the official line of the US has been a two state solution.

what the fuck is with all this "Bibi" all of a sudden?
His names been Benjamin for ever, are they trying to give him a cuddly nickname FFS
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Kwon on October 13, 2025, 01:24:02 PM
what the fuck is with all this "Bibi" all of a sudden?
His names been Benjamin for ever, are they trying to give him a cuddly nickname FFS

Would be like me calling you Jojo after 10+ years lol
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 13, 2025, 02:21:25 PM
what the fuck is with all this "Bibi" all of a sudden?
His names been Benjamin for ever, are they trying to give him a cuddly nickname FFS

I thought he's been called Bibi forever, but I might be mistaken. I've used Bibi because I see it all the time, Trump uses it. I like the Satanyahu nickname. His father's real surname was Mileikowsky, a Polish, non-semite many would say, Jew. I'm surprised "Bibi" doesn't use Binyamin instead of Benjamin to give it that authentic Hebrew flavor :D

Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: BigRo on October 13, 2025, 02:25:20 PM
So is Israel still occupying over half of Gaza? Do they intend to resettle this land?
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 13, 2025, 02:39:06 PM
I haven't watched the coverage. Which side had the healthiest prisoners? I'm sure a lot of the Palestinians were tortured and anal raped; Hamas probably had an interest in keeping their prisoners "healthy" and alive as they were their bargaining chips and extremely valuable, but I could be wrong. Earlier released Israeli, or for example the Thai captives said they got meat once a week and otherwise it wasn't much but it was most likely due to there not being any food for anyone.
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: BigRo on October 13, 2025, 02:41:21 PM
I remember an Israeli woman naked in the back of a Hamas truck being paraded about.
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 13, 2025, 04:16:21 PM
What's interesting is that even Trump just said Hamas has now sort of been allowed by the US and Israel to sort of keep order in Gaza, for a period of time, so crime doesn't skyrocket and some order is kept. Max Blumenthal says Hamas has been "let" perform these functions throughout the years. Besides, Hamas was empowered by Israel when it first started out, some say it was an outright Israeli creation, opposing PLO or whatever. All I'm saying is things aren't totally black and white, alliances shift. Lately Israel has been arming ISIS linked groups in Gaza to oppose Hamas.

It may be this temporary peace was accomplished due to Israeli overreach when they bombed Qatar. Trump actually forced Netanyahu to apologize to Qatar. It's almost as if Israel bombed the US, seeing as the biggest US military base is in Qatar and the US was guarantor for the safe Hamas-Israel talks there. So now Trump had some leverage on Bibi.

https://theintercept.com/2025/10/11/qatar-trump-gaza-ceasefire/?utm_content=buffer0e59f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=instagram&utm_campaign=theintercept


Shit man after Germany was defeated in World War One they let them fight and keep order in the Baltic states for a year or more after the war ended. I always thought that was strange.
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: mphgrove on October 13, 2025, 05:04:07 PM
Yes. Just the hostage exchange. IMO the other terms were ridiculous as there is zero agreement and they are unworkable. "The US acknowledges the 'aspirations' of Palestinians for a state" whatever that's supposed to mean. Bibi has said there's never going to be a Palestinian state and the US will go along with that, even though the official line of the US has been a two state solution.

Just the same, it’s hopeful. A thousand steps ahead of where we were. I like the idea of technocrats being in charge of problematic Gaza with the US and Arab neighbors helping out and making sure that Gaza stays in line. As for the West Bank, my own view (an idealistic one) is not for the “aspirational state” that many say Israel will not tolerate, but something that may be an even taller challenge for Israel: one nation of Greater Israel folding together current Israel together with the West Bank (but not Gaza), a fully democratic nation with equal rights for all. My own estimate is that the consolidated Israel might be roughly two thirds Jewish to one third to 40 percent Arab. So it would be a “kind of Jewish state” but would keep everybody together where they wish to live. Big dream, but stranger things have happened.

Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: chaos on October 13, 2025, 05:41:40 PM
I just wonder how long this will last for before they start a war with each other again.
6 months max.
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: jude2 on October 13, 2025, 06:21:54 PM
I haven't watched the coverage. Which side had the healthiest prisoners? I'm sure a lot of the Palestinians were tortured and anal raped; Hamas probably had an interest in keeping their prisoners "healthy" and alive as they were their bargaining chips and extremely valuable, but I could be wrong. Earlier released Israeli, or for example the Thai captives said they got meat once a week and otherwise it wasn't much but it was most likely due to there not being any food for anyone.
Yes you got that wrong.  Did you see the exchange? Complete opposite of what you said.
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Never1AShow on October 13, 2025, 08:42:30 PM
I remember an Israeli woman naked in the back of a Hamas truck being paraded about.

Lot of lunatic internet Trump haters in this thread that seem to forget about or brush off stuff like this, or go with some made up no proof  bullshit on the other side to justify it
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Kwon on October 14, 2025, 01:56:05 AM
I remember an Israeli woman naked in the back of a Hamas truck being paraded about.

She was beheaded as well, that was after that Rave they attacked
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: joswift on October 14, 2025, 03:44:54 AM
So is Israel still occupying over half of Gaza? Do they intend to resettle this land?

Let it go......its over.......for now
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Kwon on October 14, 2025, 04:48:32 AM
Speech he made for Hamas (https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1397598375093629)
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Kwon on October 14, 2025, 05:09:14 AM
Speech he made for Hamas (https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1397598375093629)
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: BB on October 14, 2025, 06:48:59 AM
what the fuck is with all this "Bibi" all of a sudden?
His names been Benjamin for ever, are they trying to give him a cuddly nickname FFS

I think it's to make him more cuddly, and humanize him more. Lots of talk here in the US about how Israel is at its most unpopular point here in decades, especially with people 40 and below.
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: chaos on October 14, 2025, 10:07:28 AM
Did he make a speech for hamas ???
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 14, 2025, 11:37:06 AM
Yes you got that wrong.  Did you see the exchange? Complete opposite of what you said.

I didn't see it and for some reason don't want to watch it, that's why I asked 8)

Just the same, it’s hopeful. A thousand steps ahead of where we were. I like the idea of technocrats being in charge of problematic Gaza with the US and Arab neighbors helping out and making sure that Gaza stays in line. As for the West Bank, my own view (an idealistic one) is not for the “aspirational state” that many say Israel will not tolerate, but something that may be an even taller challenge for Israel: one nation of Greater Israel folding together current Israel together with the West Bank (but not Gaza), a fully democratic nation with equal rights for all. My own estimate is that the consolidated Israel might be roughly two thirds Jewish to one third to 40 percent Arab. So it would be a “kind of Jewish state” but would keep everybody together where they wish to live. Big dream, but stranger things have happened.

Problem with a one state solution is that the Arabs would outbreed the Jews plus if "democratic" then they would vote in Muslims with all the resulting consequences.

I think the concept of Israel was a bad idea from the start. I sort of agree with what joswift has been saying about morals being subjective. However there are certain things that upset many or most peoples' sense of justice. Like Europeans coming into a land and kicking out the indigenous people there out of their houses and declaring that this now their house. Claiming they have some genetic or religious connection to the land some thousands of years ago and God gave it to them, it's their right to do this. And these being oftentimes secular atheist Zionist Jews too, invoking God and religion. joswift also said the only reason for establishing Israel was due to Europe not wanting them. I'm no authority on this but it doesn't sound quite right to me. As far as I know the Zionist project was started in the late 19th century. The holocaust obviously gave it more traction and allowed for it to be realized, but the aspiration and the moves began way before. Even the Nazis were trying to get the Jews to move there for a while, see the Haavara agreement. But most Jews don't want to actually go live there. Hitler was amazingly prescient IMO:

"For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks."

If someone is interested in the Jewish Question and especially if they enjoy entertaining "forbidden" conspiracy theories, these two recent articles I found amazing:

https://craignelsen.substack.com/p/sure-would-be-helpful-if-the-protocols

https://www.unz.com/ishamir/gaza-revelation/

Then read the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and read the Torat Hamelech (Royal Torah) from 2009 (!) Once absorbed, much history may never look quite the same again. Or you'll dismiss it all as pure crap, your choice 8)



Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Kwon on October 14, 2025, 01:08:17 PM
Speech he made for Hamas (He was cooking) (https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1397598375093629)
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: mphgrove on October 14, 2025, 01:56:52 PM
I think it's to make him more cuddly, and humanize him more. Lots of talk here in the US about how Israel is at its most unpopular point here in decades, especially with people 40 and below.

Cuddly can work and it puts the person being “cuddled” in a somewhat inferior position. Trump has schmoozed “Bibi” and he and his son-in-law have schmoozed the Arab leaders (the big shots, not Hamas of course). Plus the chief negotiator (Wi… or whatever his name is) is straightforward and listened to. Time will tell but up to this point I am in some level of awe (and I do not like the man by the way). Way way ahead of where we were.
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Methyl m1ke on October 15, 2025, 12:27:31 AM
I just wonder how long this will last for before they start a war with each other again.

Not long

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-hamas-trade-accusations-of-cease-fire-violations-dd543773

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/10/14/blindfold-executions-hamas-trump-plan-israeli-withdrawl/
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: joswift on October 15, 2025, 03:15:06 AM
https://theync.com/hamas-execute-several-collaborators-and-criminals.htm

Hamas execute people in the street 13 Oct

So much for turning in weapons
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: Kwon on October 15, 2025, 04:17:52 AM
Did he make a speech for hamas ???

Sorry mate, had some lag / error with Getbig at that time, have removed the duplicates now :D
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: mphgrove on October 15, 2025, 08:03:14 AM
https://theync.com/hamas-execute-several-collaborators-and-criminals.htm

Hamas execute people in the street 13 Oct

So much for turning in weapons

Where are the powerful Arab national leaders in all of this? They are the ones Trump needs to pressure on Hamas. It cannot be Israel any longer or none of this fragile balance will hold up. Step up to the plate (Saudi, Egypt, Gulf States)!
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: GymnJuice on October 15, 2025, 08:45:43 AM
Where are the powerful Arab national leaders in all of this? They are the ones Trump needs to pressure on Hamas. It cannot be Israel any longer or none of this fragile balance will hold up. Step up to the plate (Saudi, Egypt, Gulf States)!

The leaders in the region lack genuine power. They don't have a true mandate from their people. They are despots who cling to fragile control, exploiting their nations oil wealth for personal gain. This peace deal is just a Band-Aid on a big festering wound. It masks deeper unresolved issues. Until the people of Palestine, Israel, and neighboring countries are genuinely satisfied with the arrangement the underlying problems will persist. This is why I’m pessimistic about a lasting solution. The region is destined for war no matter what, and I believe the U.S. should disengage entirely.
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: joswift on October 15, 2025, 08:52:49 AM
Go watch Lawrence of Arabia

The tribes are only loyal to each other, they will all be at war with each other if Israel didnt exist
Title: Re: PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Post by: mphgrove on October 15, 2025, 10:51:44 AM
The leaders in the region lack genuine power. They don't have a true mandate from their people. They are despots who cling to fragile control, exploiting their nations oil wealth for personal gain. This peace deal is just a Band-Aid on a big festering wound. It masks deeper unresolved issues. Until the people of Palestine, Israel, and neighboring countries are genuinely satisfied with the arrangement the underlying problems will persist. This is why I’m pessimistic about a lasting solution. The region is destined for war no matter what, and I believe the U.S. should disengage entirely.

All of that may be true, but on behalf of the world’s three great religions, just maybe someday. And one thing I’ll say for Trump, if he sees some leverage, he’ll go for it. Keep pushing, don’t disengage.