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Has anyone heard that Derek had some kind of emotional breakdown "drinking tears and all" at the finals and didn't want to go do his posing routine to the point they have to ask if he could be moved to the last spot to do his routine on the night , Aceto had to regroup with him and put him back together with a very moving motivational fairy tale speech "?
Again, none of this has been confirmed but Palumbo almost made it public "
If any of this is true what a pussy that Lumfords dude is
WooooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Has anyone heard that Derek had some kind of emotional breakdown "drinking tears and all" at the finals and didn't want to go do his posing routine to the point they have to ask if he could be the last one to do his routine on the night , Aceto had to regroup with him and put him back together with a very moving motivational fairy tale speech "?
Again, none of this has been confirmed but Palumbo almost made it public "
If any of this is true what a pussy that Lumfords dude is
WooooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Yes, this is true to a degree. Palumbo tried to out him but Aceto protected his athlete.
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Has anyone heard that Derek had some kind of emotional breakdown "drinking tears and all" at the finals and didn't want to go do his posing routine to the point they have to ask if he could be moved to the last one to do his routine on the night , Aceto had to regroup with him and put him back together with a very moving motivational fairy tale speech "?
Again, none of this has been confirmed but Palumbo almost made it public "
If any of this is true what a pussy that Lumfords dude is
WooooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Saturday, while you were wasting your pathetic life away...
Derek was raking in $600,000
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Saturday, while you were wasting your pathetic life away...
Derek was raking in $600,000
While you were wanking to the black and white photo zoomed in the stain on the pants the promoter of the 1980 Olympia wore lusting it was Arnold's semen that fatidic Olympia weekend in Sydney ...... fatidic for your meaningless existence and Mentzer's of course
WooooSSHHHHHHHHHh Rock me Amadeus
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He should have been crying. As smooth as he was he needed all the help he could get to squeeze the water in his body out. He looked like shit.
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He should have been crying. As smooth as he was he needed all the help he could get to squeeze the water in his body out. He looked like shit.
Right?
Look at this. Looks 8 weeks out with no flow, no arms, etc.
(https://i.ibb.co/MqKNy7L/DL-Copy.jpg)
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Right?
Look at this. Looks 8 weeks out with no flow, no arms, etc.
(https://i.ibb.co/MqKNy7L/DL-Copy.jpg)
The "powers that be" should have put their foot down and made a statement by sending everyone home and postponing the O for another 5 weeks to give them time to get in shape. It had to be horrible to be Kai sitting in the audience big as hell and shredded/well conditioned year around knowing he could have walked on stage with two weeks notice and won. Or Chris Comier sitting there knowing all the years he didn't with the O or ASC, he was still in better shape than these garden gnomes.
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Right?
Look at this. Looks 8 weeks out with no flow, no arms, etc.
(https://i.ibb.co/MqKNy7L/DL-Copy.jpg)
Derek is a crying baby having a meltdown despite knowing he was ahead, underserving of the tittle
Hadi was robbed ... again.
And Martin and Brandon should have place higher too
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
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Derek is a crying baby having a meltdown despite knowing he was ahead, underserving of the tittle
Hadi was robbed ... again.
And Martin and Brandon should have place higher too
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
I'm sure being Persian has hurt him.
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Right?
Look at this. Looks 8 weeks out with no flow, no arms, etc.
(https://i.ibb.co/MqKNy7L/DL-Copy.jpg)
he looks like that guest posing
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNavCgjXYAA50Y0.jpg)
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He has a great back though. And being short, looks twice as wide.
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He was drained from the psychological warfare that he engaged in from the day before.
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He was drained from the psychological warfare that he engaged in from the day before.
the pre-judging is gladiatorial in its intensity
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he does look same as guest posing pic lol wow,,aceto was pissed at dave when he brought it,theres a video he mouths to himself wtf after dave asked him about it..
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Right?
Look at this. Looks 8 weeks out with no flow, no arms, etc.
(https://i.ibb.co/MqKNy7L/DL-Copy.jpg)
Ridiculous lats and blurry arms on this midge.
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Ridiculous lats and blurry arms on this midge.
zero vascularity
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zero vascularity
At least 8 weeks out
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Right?
Look at this. Looks 8 weeks out with no flow, no arms, etc.
(https://i.ibb.co/MqKNy7L/DL-Copy.jpg)
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/eJWELJSNF7A/sddefault.jpg)
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While you were wanking to the black and white photo zoomed in the stain on the pants the promoter of the 1980 Olympia wore lusting it was Arnold's semen that fatidic Olympia weekend in Sydney ...... fatidic for your meaningless existence and Mentzer's of course
WooooSSHHHHHHHHHh Rock me Amadeus
This post reveals your mindset in life, and is a major reason why no woman will ever want you
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he does look same as guest posing pic lol wow,,aceto was pissed at dave when he brought it,theres a video he mouths to himself wtf after dave asked him about it..
They guy claims he has God on his team then he's backstage in tears saying he can't take it no more ...
hope someone has it on film
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Apparently, he has a torn pec or had a torn pec 4 weeks out
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Apparently, he has a torn pec or had a torn pec 4 weeks out
https://www.facebook.com/share/1AgLMfzWC7/?mibextid=wwXIfr
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https://www.facebook.com/share/1AgLMfzWC7/?mibextid=wwXIfr
WOW COMMENTS THERE THEY ARE RIPPING HIS BUILD A NEW ONE...WE ARE SAINTS COMPARED TO THOSE ONES LOL...
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Looks like a power sausage - a new species.
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They guy claims he has God on his team then he's backstage in tears saying he can't take it no more ...
hope someone has it on film
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Have you ever had a moment in your life?
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His arms look painful, that look when too much oil is present. They all abuse synthol, the key is using enough but not too much as you spoil the effect completely. Derek has no separation between bicep heads, or even between the bicep and triceps.
Should one body part carry more weight when deciding these things? We already know the back wins the show, but the arm is such an important muscle group. I think perhaps 75% started training to get big fuckin arms, even the female bodybuilders have better arms than Derek.
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I was going to post a ripped picture of '88 DeMey and ask 'what went wrong?' Then I thought for a moment and you don't need to go back that far for examples of what a top physique looked like
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Falchetron.com%2Fcdn%2Fdexter-jackson-bodybuilder-00e05fb5-3b97-4a59-aab0-6e32c55a0ee-resize-750.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=ced61c40ac41af98d7bf3876e1f1d371ced4f38a2403b04778ce95c63633ebcd)
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Bring back death-faces!!
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Looks like a power sausage - a new species.
He literally looks like a frog.
Except the frogs have better muscle definition/separation, shape, and lower back muscularity.
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I was going to post a ripped picture of '88 DeMey and ask 'what went wrong?' Then I thought for a moment and you don't need to go back that far for examples of what a top physique looked like
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Falchetron.com%2Fcdn%2Fdexter-jackson-bodybuilder-00e05fb5-3b97-4a59-aab0-6e32c55a0ee-resize-750.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=ced61c40ac41af98d7bf3876e1f1d371ced4f38a2403b04778ce95c63633ebcd)
bad example to prove a point, dexter was known for putting huge amounts of oil in arms (specifically biceps) and calves
(derek looks like shit though)
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Pro bodybuilding has become a travesty.......a true parody of itself. :(
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Bring back death-faces!!
Yeah that’s true. None of them as of late have those death faces. I remember Dorian looking very Skelton like and worn down in the face.
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bad example to prove a point, dexter was known for putting huge amounts of oil in arms (specifically biceps) and calves
(derek looks like shit though)
Fair enough - I agree oil's bad, but I was more aiming to show the point about their on-the-day definition could be better for some modern guys like Derek
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:D
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:D
and Jay was only good enough for 14th place
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and Jay was only good enough for 14th place
15th ! second to last :-\
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15th ! second to last :-\
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Mr._Olympia
14th after Marcus DQ
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Mr._Olympia
14th after Marcus DQ
Ah I stand corrected ! I was going by this
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Ah I stand corrected ! I was going by this
I think we are both right to be honest.. ;D
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Ah I stand corrected ! I was going by this
Pavel Jablonicky! Now there's another ripped fella that never placed but makes modern guys LLS
Sunken cheeks FTW!
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fblogger.googleusercontent.com%2Fimg%2Fb%2FR29vZ2xl%2FAVvXsEipbH9QLS1VmME6ZyyTSfQox7zfy79YusgVhmMfRbASG7vxS8ChJ44TM3NAbY9vbbZt3FxgDELhvcSkdWDsMsDQkWKHqAoRVSPU8KKiEsTMvinCCelzq0uHTUkyRPnNq3BmTTF3Z0YKD1kcvQ9SZ5RqpUS4UmXwLYHM82GJ-6oA7h8KA_z2r5R_PS4%2Fs1600%2Fpavol9.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=aabf8fd9ce545a8d2ef0f2eb0bb4b5bd24bec4aead823c1116385981c758c0d5)
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Striations on the medial delt - who remembers them? LOL
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fblogger.googleusercontent.com%2Fimg%2Fb%2FR29vZ2xl%2FAVvXsEgG4jVEimkoikx8LCMu5YVgnhygKIeqzfjIR5PL1AOBbs6xw7vEbLXWIlo36tN2D5S3zvAAs-3A55FAtd5uzssoFP297LJvUjKxcnnV_7uOtYqkuMg9b6ie4RYz5TXhe_Pi41L6UyaLPstlJo1HmpBmKOORbspJrr4pef5UHsrgg-BPGnhsin42Ews%2Fs1600%2Fpavol20.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=7f7f7f1d8d36881918c6f589cc4c4bac52db253bc34f5c49168c36cb0360abd7)
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Pavel Jablonicky! Now there's another ripped fella that never placed but makes modern guys LLS
Sunken cheeks FTW!
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fblogger.googleusercontent.com%2Fimg%2Fb%2FR29vZ2xl%2FAVvXsEipbH9QLS1VmME6ZyyTSfQox7zfy79YusgVhmMfRbASG7vxS8ChJ44TM3NAbY9vbbZt3FxgDELhvcSkdWDsMsDQkWKHqAoRVSPU8KKiEsTMvinCCelzq0uHTUkyRPnNq3BmTTF3Z0YKD1kcvQ9SZ5RqpUS4UmXwLYHM82GJ-6oA7h8KA_z2r5R_PS4%2Fs1600%2Fpavol9.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=aabf8fd9ce545a8d2ef0f2eb0bb4b5bd24bec4aead823c1116385981c758c0d5)
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUybzNueTA2d21kNHZsZjU3eDFmODJ0aHpsNWh6b3BhNTd4bGlxOTk0eiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3o751TCniN0ZuTFkVW/giphy.gif)
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Right?
Look at this. Looks 8 weeks out with no flow, no arms, etc.
(https://i.ibb.co/MqKNy7L/DL-Copy.jpg)
Looks like a sack of shit
Those lumps where caused buy masquito bites
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Site enhancements don't cause the thick skin look throughout. The thick skin is mostly genetic IMO but can also be affected by drug choices and perhaps this years long overfeeding too. Derek said he was basically running on fumes in his pre-comp vid, and while he has been running deficits there's lots of food coming in all the time; most of us couldn't even consume as much food as they do pre-contest. There are some competitors who have much thinner skin that Derek or Walker like Krizo and the approaches to bodybuilding aren't that different so that's why I say it's genetic to a large extent. But OTOH there's the curious case of harder glutes yet overall smoother backs on the guys. The actual subcutaneous fat levels are lower today that in the 90s IMO.
This fella attempts to make some sort of case regarding Derek's lats that one year. Let me know what you think.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNTLQjlRLcN/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=azgxNmY2cGE1OGpy
Whatever bodybuilders shoot in their muscles don't generally leave any welts. Unless you do something strange you never did before I guess. Iris Kyle obviously shot a bad batch of gear in her glutes one year which should never happen and it was very strange it happened to someone of her experience.
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IS THAT HIM 212'S
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IS THAT HIM 212'S
Not sure
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:D
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It sounds like Derrick was in a death cramp (aka Dillet) before the finals and Bonac and Martin pretty much forces him to drink a potassium solution before he died.
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It sounds like Derrick was in a death cramp (aka Dillet) before the finals and Bonac and Martin pretty much forces him to drink a potassium solution before he died.
Heard likewise. But not the potassium solution. Heard it was a sodium solution.
The rumor: aldactazide combined with potassium loading. It's not advisable (easy to overshoot potassium), but if you get it just right along with insulin and carbs it can make you pretty full. Screw it up, and your muscles cramp and you can't get the cramping to stop without a huge dose of insulin to drive potassium from the blood stream back to the inside of the cells to maintain proper ionic balance. Hyperkalemia sets in and you basically die a very painful death. Apparently Bonac saw it and insisted Derek drink some electrolytes and eat some chips (sodium, to counter-balance the potassium). So sayeth the internet rumor mills.
He almost pulled a Benaziza, if this is all true.
If this is true, it's pretty old school in terms of prep. I haven't heard that this is Aceto's current protocol, so I'm finding it hard to believe, but then who knows what's true these days.
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I doubt any competitor got Derek to do anything, it was his coach or coaches. But who knows really, but another competitor doesn't know what he's done. A long time ago my friend called frantically from a hotel room as a pro was lying cramping violently on his bed. I said I'm not advising anything, if in doubt call an ambulance. They didn't want that so my buddy ran into the hotel corridor and grabbed sodium packets off a staff cart and poured it into his mouth and luckily it did solve the issue. He had taken an OTC supposed natural diuretic but which contained and undisclosed loop diuretic, called "Star caps."
"StarCaps was a dietary supplement that was found to contain the prescription diuretic bumetanide ["Bumex"], which can cause dehydration and dangerous side effects like low potassium levels. The product was marketed as a weight-loss aid but was not labeled as containing the prescription drug. Its use has been linked to issues for people like athletes, particularly when used for rapid weight cutting"
If this is true, it's pretty old school in terms of prep. I haven't heard that this is Aceto's current protocol, so I'm finding it hard to believe, but then who knows what's true these days.
Everything I've "heard" says Aceto is old school and some of his protocols sound risky if true, but like someone not drinking for days. Or Cutler testing positive for 5 different diuretics, though I'm not sure who was advising him then. There's really only "old school" ways to quickly drop water with them, you do a loop one like Bumex. You're of course right about the potassium issue, Milos says he saved a couple of pros' lives by stopping them taking it or paramedics administering it. He thought Benaziza died from this. Instead of potassium you take insulin and do some other things, if you know the problem is in fact hyperkalemia. 12 hours ago I took a 40mg Lasix since my ankles had swelling. A few weeks ago at hospital I got it IV both for water retention and high-ish potassium.
Chad Nicholls sells quinine tabs for countering cramping from dehydration. Back in the day everyone used it, don't know how popular these days. It attaches to the magnesium receptor.
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I doubt any competitor got Derek to do anything, it was his coach or coaches. But who knows really, but another competitor doesn't know what he's done. A long time ago my friend called frantically from a hotel room as a pro was lying cramping violently on his bed. I said I'm not advising anything, if in doubt call an ambulance. They didn't want that so my buddy ran into the hotel corridor and grabbed sodium packets off a staff cart and poured it into his mouth and luckily it did solve the issue. He had taken an OTC supposed natural diuretic but which contained and undisclosed loop diuretic, called "Star caps."
"StarCaps was a dietary supplement that was found to contain the prescription diuretic bumetanide ["Bumex"], which can cause dehydration and dangerous side effects like low potassium levels. The product was marketed as a weight-loss aid but was not labeled as containing the prescription drug. Its use has been linked to issues for people like athletes, particularly when used for rapid weight cutting"
Everything I've "heard" says Aceto is old school and some of his protocols sound risky if true, but like someone not drinking for days. Or Cutler testing positive for 5 different diuretics, though I'm not sure who was advising him then. There's really only "old school" ways to quickly drop water with them, you do a loop one like Bumex. You're of course right about the potassium issue, Milos says he saved a couple of pros' lives by stopping them taking it or paramedics administering it. He thought Benaziza died from this. Instead of potassium you take insulin and do some other things, if you know the problem is in fact hyperkalemia. 12 hours ago I took a 40mg Lasix since my ankles had swelling. A few weeks ago at hospital I got it IV both for water retention and high-ish potassium.
Chad Nicholls sells quinine tabs for countering cramping from dehydration. Back in the day everyone used it, don't know how popular these days. It attaches to the magnesium receptor.
Bumex...have to look into that one! Come here and never fail to learn something new!
On the Bonac front (again, allegedly). I agree - no one would likely get Derek to do anything under normal circumstances. I think it's probably more that Aceto went backstage and handled the issue personally, as his coach.
Still, I'm reasoning that Derek would have been in some crippling pain if he was in fact hyperkalemic. Imagine having most of your muscles cells (smooth and striated muscle cells alike) cramping uncontrollably, and maximally, without relief. I can only think with that level of pain, it wouldn't be hard to be told to do anything to make the pain go away. Maybe not in the first minute or few as you try to knuckle your way through the pain. But eventually, that kind of cramping just erodes your resolve and you'll do anything or say anything to make it stop.
I'd also imagine today how it could have been Bonac. I think today, a lot of pros have a much stronger working knowledge of diuretics and their side effects (and how to mitigate them), than in the 90s when information was far less available and clustered in tight circles. It's not unreasonable to think a guy like Bonac knows a thing or two about diuretics (provided Derek actually said "help me....here's what I took").
Again...all allegedly!
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=701365.0;attach=1575304;image)
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Padilla with no coach and 40 years behind in technology/progress just looks better
WooooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHhh
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Bumex...have to look into that one! Come here and never fail to learn something new!
On the Bonac front (again, allegedly). I agree - no one would likely get Derek to do anything under normal circumstances. I think it's probably more that Aceto went backstage and handled the issue personally, as his coach.
Still, I'm reasoning that Derek would have been in some crippling pain if he was in fact hyperkalemic. Imagine having most of your muscles cells (smooth and striated muscle cells alike) cramping uncontrollably, and maximally, without relief. I can only think with that level of pain, it wouldn't be hard to be told to do anything to make the pain go away. Maybe not in the first minute or few as you try to knuckle your way through the pain. But eventually, that kind of cramping just erodes your resolve and you'll do anything or say anything to make it stop.
I'd also imagine today how it could have been Bonac. I think today, a lot of pros have a much stronger working knowledge of diuretics and their side effects (and how to mitigate them), than in the 90s when information was far less available and clustered in tight circles. It's not unreasonable to think a guy like Bonac knows a thing or two about diuretics (provided Derek actually said "help me....here's what I took").
Again...all allegedly!
Aceto has a lot to answer for ....
Sadly, Palumbo will be kissing his ass and afraid to address this serious (life and death) matter.
WooooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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IHe thought Benaziza died from this.
I remember being told at the time from a pro that Benaziza was taking diuretics and clenbuterol and was only eating puréed apples
When he started cramping in his hotel and projectile vomitting he started drinking water , a lot of it.
Due to the effrects of clen (lubricates your lungs as its an ashmatic drug) all the water was going to his lungs.
He was past the point of no return
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I remember being told at the time from a pro that Benaziza was taking diuretics and clenbuterol and was only eating puréed apples
When he started cramping in his hotel and projectile vomitting he started drinking water , a lot of it.
Due to the effrects of clen (lubricates your lungs as its an ashmatic drug) all the water was going to his lungs.
He was past the point of no return
So he drowned in his own fluids?
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I remember being told at the time from a pro that Benaziza was taking diuretics and clenbuterol and was only eating puréed apples
When he started cramping in his hotel and projectile vomitting he started drinking water , a lot of it.
Due to the effrects of clen (lubricates your lungs as its an ashmatic drug) all the water was going to his lungs.
He was past the point of no return
All of the above is accurate the way I heard it as well.
He was truly too far gone; so far gone that when he was dying in his hotel room, even Porter Cottrell couldn't save him when Porter was called into the room (and Porter is a firefighter well-trained in emergency lifesaving exercises).
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pro bodybuilding has got to be the less functional activity there is ...
ironically while looking like a super athlete.
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHH
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I remember being told at the time from a pro that Benaziza was taking diuretics and clenbuterol and was only eating puréed apples
When he started cramping in his hotel and projectile vomitting he started drinking water , a lot of it.
Due to the effrects of clen (lubricates your lungs as its an ashmatic drug) all the water was going to his lungs.
He was past the point of no return
Whatever it takes.
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Right?
Look at this. Looks 8 weeks out with no flow, no arms, etc.
(https://i.ibb.co/MqKNy7L/DL-Copy.jpg)
A sack of shit 💩 and that’s being generous
This is flex wheeler at 220 Derek would get on his knees and suck flex’s big black cock
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A sack of shit 💩 and that’s being generous
This is flex wheeler at 220 Derek would get on his knees and suck flex’s big black cock
Yikes-Night and messed up day. Theres a side by side photo comparison someone posted on here a while back that shows guest posing off season Lumpsford next to his Olympia photo and the only difference is his tan. Very sad to see the decline in present day vs yester years.
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Yikes-Night and messed up day. Theres a side by side photo comparison someone posted on here a while back that shows guest posing off season Lumpsford next to his Olympia photo and the only difference is his tan. Very sad to see the decline in present day vs yester years.
Is there any other sport that declines over the years?
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@milossarcev
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Let’s make this clear: Derek Lunsford just won his 2nd Mr. Olympia title, completing the 2025 Triple Crown — and let’s not forget, he’s also a former 212 Mr. Olympia champion — the only man in history to win both divisions.
None of these titles were handed to him. They were earned through relentless work and awarded by experienced/qualified judges who know exactly what they’re looking for. Let him enjoy it — he deserves every bit of it.
At the same time, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: if Hadi Choopan had four, five, or even six Mr Olympia titles by now, it wouldn’t be unjustified. That’s how good he really is — and how close this battle truly was. And if Andrew Jack had won it, many would have agreed too.
Bodybuilding is highly subjective sport — but that’s where the judges come in: to apply layers of objectivity, filter and evaluate what the rest of us might be too biased to see. They know what they’re looking for… better than any of us.
@leepriestofficial72
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They might be qualified, but a lot of them are like politicians. They’re beating that position too long. I think they get lazy. They need new judges Youngblood in there not the same old guard. And I don’t agree with the decision yes Derek won congratulations it is not Mr. Olympia to me and many others.
OK, I’ve been sitting on a plane for 14 hours. I’m bored. This is my last comment I promise lol at a contest when they have the expert judging panel behind that panel I want a panel of retired pro Milos, Samir Lee Haney, Shawn Ray Phil Jay and a couple of others, and I want to see the difference in the outcome of the two panels
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@leepriestofficial72
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They might be qualified, but a lot of them are like politicians. They’re beating that position too long. I think they get lazy. They need new judges Youngblood in there not the same old guard. And I don’t agree with the decision yes Derek won congratulations it is not Mr. Olympia to me and many others.
OK, I’ve been sitting on a plane for 14 hours. I’m bored. This is my last comment I promise lol at a contest when they have the expert judging panel behind that panel I want a panel of retired pro Milos, Samir Lee Haney, Shawn Ray Phil Jay and a couple of others, and I want to see the difference in the outcome of the two panels
Good idea by Lee but Don has a busy schedule these days.
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Deericks asshole is so big now he can insert an American football in it without even flinching