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As we've seen how the conditioning of bodybuilders from the 70's to now has increased dramatically, where can it go in the future? I mean HOW can you be any more shredded than this?
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if you wanna pay the price he did go ahead, i'll pass.
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yea I know, have you seen the cycle he was on?
Subject: The death anabolic plan of Andreas Münzer
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:09:13 GMT
10-9 Weeks before the Competition daily: Ephederine, AN 1, Captagon,
Aspirine, Valium, Clenbuterol
8-6 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Testoviron a 250 mg
1 inject Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
30 tabletts Metandienon
20 IE* STH
20 IE* Insuline
5-3 weeks before the Competition daily: 3 injects Masteron
2 injects Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
50 tabletts Stromba
2 injects Stromba
24 IE* STH
2-1 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Masteron
2 injects Stromba
40 tabletts Halotestin
80 tabletts Stromba
24 IE* STH
Insuline
IGF
A few days before the Competition: Aldactone, Lasix
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if you wanna pay the price he did go ahead, i'll pass.
Exactly..
I remember reading how his insides literally exploded/melted..massive internal bleeding..
So sad.. :'(
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the level of conditioning as backed off a little since the 90's.
A couple of deaths & people dropping backstage like a piece of stiff wood made some changes to the level of conditioning
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aside from the huge oral intake it's not a crazy amount, but it's that crazy oral usage that melted his liver and kidneys, unbelievable.
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it cant improve thats the answer
neither can size without further stomach distension
so the future has to be shape which comes alot more down to genetics unfortunatly
the future is a BB with huge mass totally shreaded and a great shape where as up until recently it has been size size size. with all the drugs now attainable many pros can get that "freak" look the next generation will be all about freaks with shape.
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Conditioning has become somewhat more reasonable... Munzer was an example of pushing bbing way too far.
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the level of conditioning as backed off a little since the 90's.
A couple of deaths & people dropping backstage like a piece of stiff wood made some changes to the level of conditioning
i think the fact that pros dont look as cut has more to do with the fact that they r so huge there muscles dont have the same separation they all kinda run into each other
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i think the fact that pros dont look as cut has more to do with the fact that they r so huge there muscles dont have the same separation they all kinda run into each other
the lack of the same amount of diuretics has more to do with it IMO
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the lack of the same amount of diuretics has more to do with it IMO
less have died lately but thats more to do with greater knowledge of pottasium / sodium levels
u still get BBs like Mustafa nearly dying every other show
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i havent got the first clue about anabolic drugs so that list means absolutely fuck all to me. But im sure i wouldnt go near anything like it! ;D
I would say the best conditioning ive seen lately is Paco's on his pro debut, and he didnt have an ounce of oil on him! Dorian is still yet to be surpassed though, nobody has ever come into a show with conditioning even close to his best
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i havent got the first clue about anabolic drugs so that list means absolutely f**k all to me. But im sure i wouldnt go near anything like it! ;D
I would say the best conditioning ive seen lately is Paco's on his pro debut, and he didnt have an ounce of oil on him! Dorian is still yet to be surpassed though, nobody has ever come into a show with conditioning even close to his best
this thread is about the guy who had better conditioning than Dorian! so good it killed him!!!
stupid as he was his conditioning was 2nd to none
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Andreas was always one step ahead in the conditioning dept...but paid the price.
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Question is.. is Dexter Jackson next? :-\
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Question is.. is Dexter Jackson next? :-\
i doubt it!
most pros have to work hard at loseing water but i dont think dex finds it to much of a problem theres no way he wud be so consistant without any "near death experiences"
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this is so stupid. a few of the best conditioned BBs ever i know from their mouths that they didnt use many diuretics. Some others that i havent spoken to personally, i know by word of mouth they dont either....
Nowadays people rely on diuretics hoping they are just "holding water" becuase in reality they are just fat.
If they ARE shreaded, 75% of them got that way overloading on t3 and clen etc... rather than hard work, beucase i know PLENTY of people who have gotten shreaded using very little of this stuff.
Work hard... dont take shortcuts.... only use what is NECESSARY and no more
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this is so stupid. a few of the best conditioned BBs ever i know from their mouths that they didnt use many diuretics. Some others that i havent spoken to personally, i know by word of mouth they dont either....
Nowadays people rely on diuretics hoping they are just "holding water" becuase in reality they are just fat.
If they ARE shreaded, 75% of them got that way overloading on t3 and clen etc... rather than hard work, beucase i know PLENTY of people who have gotten shreaded using very little of this stuff.
Work hard... dont take shortcuts.... only use what is NECESSARY and no more
I agree, play it smart!
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i suppose it's better than death ;D
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Question is.. is Dexter Jackson next? :-\
You really are a retard.
Dexters conditioning is primarily from his genetics!
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i doubt it!
most pros have to work hard at loseing water but i dont think dex finds it to much of a problem theres no way he wud be so consistant without any "near death experiences"
I'm no scholar, but there are some 3rd grade grammar students on this board.
Loseing - Losing
Wud - Would
Consitant - Consistent
Nothing personal, but finishing high school is a good idea.
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Andreas was NEVER cut in his Abs though???!!!!??!??!?!??! WHY???!!
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no matter how many times I see this pic, it still shocks me :o---its like staring at a living anatomy chart
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I saw Andreas at one of The Night of the Champions in NY. Pictures don't do him any justice...he hit this quad-shake most muscular crab, the entire audience went wild!
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i think Munzer was genetically gifted in this area though...i mean he tended to be very lean year round.
i can understand it taking him to the brink...but probably cannot blame the drugs...
more like the other stuff he was doing with fluids, dieting, carbs, activity etc...forming the lethal cocktail.
ultra low water levels, depleted diet and lasix on it's own spell danger.
heck forget even the water levels...take too much lasix and say a permanent goodnight. i think momo found the same.
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yea I know, have you seen the cycle he was on?
Subject: The death anabolic plan of Andreas Münzer
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:09:13 GMT
10-9 Weeks before the Competition daily: Ephederine, AN 1, Captagon,
Aspirine, Valium, Clenbuterol
8-6 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Testoviron a 250 mg
1 inject Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
30 tabletts Metandienon
20 IE* STH
20 IE* Insuline
5-3 weeks before the Competition daily: 3 injects Masteron
2 injects Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
50 tabletts Stromba
2 injects Stromba
24 IE* STH
2-1 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Masteron
2 injects Stromba
40 tabletts Halotestin
80 tabletts Stromba
24 IE* STH
Insuline
IGF
A few days before the Competition: Aldactone, Lasix
Thats horrible.
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Die for me, beeotch!
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IGF? I don't think IGF was around in 1996, that part sounds made up. However, it is almost confirmed that he took large amounts of halotestin year round nonstop. That couldn't of done his liver very good.
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Isn't he the one who died on a plane?
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Isn't he the one who died on a plane?
Yes he is the one. They said his blood was like sludge from lack of water and too high RBC. His liver was apparently in very bad shape as well.
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IGF-1 i don;t believe they had that when he died i call bullshit on that and they forgot cytadrine which is supposedly what really kille dhim
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Scary thing is he never believed in an offseason.
He deviated maybe 10-15 lbs from contest weight and as we know, bodyfat that low for long amounts of time is unhealthy.
Check out his tri's
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"...40 tabs of Halotestin per day..." ;D
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Scary thing is he never believed in an offseason.
He deviated maybe 10-15 lbs from contest weight and as we know, bodyfat that low for long amounts of time is unhealthy.
Check out his tri's
Spot on. Munzers main problem was that he didn't understand the word cycle and did not have an off season. He would be stacking month in month out. They say his liver had virtually melted when they did the autopsy. Very sad. I believe he was only about 33 years old.
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As we've seen how the conditioning of bodybuilders from the 70's to now has increased dramatically, where can it go in the future? I mean HOW can you be any more shredded than this?
Dexter can rival this here (Best pics I've ever seen of him):
(http://dnj23.onesite.com/images/dex05.jpg)
(http://dnj23.onesite.com/images/dex02.jpg)
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That Munzer fellow certainly was 'toned' :)
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Dexter can rival this here (Best pics I've ever seen of him):
(http://dnj23.onesite.com/images/dex05.jpg)
(http://dnj23.onesite.com/images/dex02.jpg)
now that looks wicked!