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I am saying less than 5%.
And who tries to collect a ransom in today's times? It has to be all but impossible. You can't do it in person. Any digital or bank exchange is going to be monitored and traced. Collecting money at this point is the best way to get caught.
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Who would have even thought to kidnap her other than a family member?
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Who would have even thought to kidnap her other than a family member?
Who kidnaps a senior citizen, that is in her last days, for a ransom? I’m sure Lurker is right that she is gone, and these geniuses didn’t realize an elderly person isn’t that best choice to keep as a long term hostage.
It’s likely it’s someone that had a connection to her thinking this was going to be quick and easy, snatching a frail old woman. At this point something went wrong with their plan.
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I would be stunned if she comes back alive. :(
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It's bizarre and suspicious that she took an Uber to her daughter's home for dinner. Why would they not pick her up if she wasn't able to drive?
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what are the odds anyone cares other than her family?
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what are the odds anyone cares other than her family?
Good point.........unfortunae ly. :(
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I read that TMZ had someone contact them saying they would reveal the kidnapper for one single bitcoin. Lurker, it isn't possible to collect bitcoin anonymously? I thought it was still possible.
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She's buried out in the desert I bet. It'll be family or a helper that did it.
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Sadly, not very high. I'd say quite low.
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It's bizarre and suspicious that she took an Uber to her daughter's home for dinner. Why would they not pick her up if she wasn't able to drive?
Probably because they may have been busy, umm.... like... cooking the dinner?
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I read that TMZ had someone contact them saying they would reveal the kidnapper for one single bitcoin. Lurker, it isn't possible to collect bitcoin anonymously? I thought it was still possible.
I don't think so. Remember about 10 years ago the bitcoin heist? They tracked that. And you know they only implemented more security protocols afterwards. Maybe they can. I am not overly familiar with crypto anyway.
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Sadly, not very high. I'd say quite low.
It would be a hilarious twist of fate if she engineered her own "kidnapping" and is currently sitting on a beach in Rio waiting for some 20 year old Brazilian guy to bone her again.
I couldn't imagine kidnapping an elderly person. You would never hear the end of "young man", or "back in my day" or "turn on the heat, it's cold in here" complaining.
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It would be a hilarious twist of fate if she engineered her own "kidnapping" and is currently sitting on a beach in Rio waiting for some 20 year old Brazilian guy to bone her again.
I couldn't imagine kidnapping an elderly person. You would never hear the end of "young man", or "back in my day" or "turn on the heat, it's cold in here" complaining.
the stench of pensioner farts and talk of loose bowels would mean its not for me!
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I am saying less than 5%.
And who tries to collect a ransom in today's times? It has to be all but impossible. You can't do it in person. Any digital or bank exchange is going to be monitored and traced. Collecting money at this point is the best way to get caught.
Im the hopeless optimist, i think it may be 6%
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Probably because they may have been busy, umm.... like... cooking the dinner?
So the 2 of them can’t leave the kitchen because the dinner is so elaborate? No family meal is that labor intensive. I feel the family is involved in her disappearance some way. They’re multi millionaires…yet they have her pay for a ride to their house? Makes no sense. Or one of them couldn’t pick her up? Seems almost like having her fetch an uber then driving her home would give them an alibi.
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...and 5 or 6 million dollar ransom is no money in today's world. Why not kidnap a billionaires wife or kid?
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I don’t buy the whole ransom thing.
I’m going with a botched robbery.
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I don't think so. Remember about 10 years ago the bitcoin heist? They tracked that. And you know they only implemented more security protocols afterwards. Maybe they can. I am not overly familiar with crypto anyway.
Yeah I don't know. Recently I heard the Mossad is recruiting ordinary Iranians to become spies in Iran and paying them in bitcoin, so you'd think it would have to be hard to track since spies get the noose.
I remembered this case from my part of the world:
Tom Hagen (born 14. April 1950) is a Norwegian businessman.[1] In 1992, he co-founded Elkraft AS, an electric company. Hagen works in property development. The financial magazine Kapital lists him as Norway's 172nd richest person.[2]
His wife, Anne-Elisabeth Falkevik Hagen, was supposedly kidnapped on 31 October 2018 and has not been seen since. The suspected kidnappers demanded a nine million euro ransom paid in the cryptocurrency Monero.[3] In June 2019, Norwegian police said that they could not rule out that the alleged abduction had simply been a cover for her death.
On 28 April 2020, he was arrested and charged with murder, or complicity to murder his wife. However, he was released shortly after he was arrested, though he was still a suspect until 18 October 2024, when the charges were dismissed due to lack of evidence.
New details include:
the kidnapper or kidnappers used bitcoin to communicate with police through coded messages;
a VPN was used to obscure whereabouts;
another cryptocurrency, dash, was used to obscure the money trail;
and the people or persons behind the plot used a stolen identity to set up accounts on cryptocurrency exchanges Binance, Huobi and KuCoin.
Authorities believe complex and advanced knowledge of cryptocurrency and related fields such as the dark web are key to the case, according to VG. They are hoping that publicising the details will allow outside experts to help them crack it.
Family doesn't pay but:
Tom Hagen decides to pay 1.3 million Euros in crypto currency. He receives nothing in return.
Likely paid himself :D Dude walks free.
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I want to know who did it!
As an earlier Getbigger stated, it was probably a Robbery gone wrong.
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I am saying less than 5%.
And who tries to collect a ransom in today's times? It has to be all but impossible. You can't do it in person. Any digital or bank exchange is going to be monitored and traced. Collecting money at this point is the best way to get caught.
She's probably in Mexico or dead. The ransom might just be a ruse to throw people off the perp if it's a family member or neighbor.
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The new video of the 2nd backpack guy looks like he's wearing a realistic latex mask.
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Like the majority of old people she was really dumb and out of touch. Not even an intercom? Why open the door for someone who looks like that?
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Like the majority of old people she was really dumb and out of touch. Not even an intercom? Why open the door for someone who looks like that?
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He was White?
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Like the majority of old people she was really dumb and out of touch. Not even an intercom? Why open the door for someone who looks like that?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS3OUpG0qttfLb5KgXXiLmP3B1vzZcN7uRjAQ&s)
So sad and unnecessary
She should have lived her last years in peace
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If she's held for long ill bet she demands a live stream for the olympia in September
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I think she is just playing a prank on everyone.
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Like the majority of old people she was really dumb and out of touch. Not even an intercom? Why open the door for someone who looks like that?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS3OUpG0qttfLb5KgXXiLmP3B1vzZcN7uRjAQ&s)
Dumb and out of touch? She was old and feeble.
It’s likely her cognitive abilities are severely declining making her childlike. She probably needed sometype of guardian.
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If she's held for long ill bet she demands a live stream for the olympia in September
Post of the day. Well done Darrell.
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He was White?
He has to be white. That ski mask is a 500 thread count.
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He has to be white. That ski mask is a 500 thread count.
legit lol...
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Latest Update
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The initial reward was $1500. That amount struck me as weird and insulting; it’s like why even bother?
Then they raised it to $10,000. More respectable but still seemed low.
The FBI is now offering a $100,000 reward.
Having to raise the reward amount twice makes this look amateurish and desperate to me. If she needed her meds their absence will now begin to take a serious toll if it hasn’t already. It’s hard to picture the kidnapper(s) dutifully seeing to her feeding and bathroom breaks if they didn’t give a thought to her medications. I fear the worst. :'(
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As far as odds, it would be odd if she was still alive.
Your comment about the low rewards offered shows how strange this whole thing is.
Very strange.
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As far as odds, it would be odd if she was still alive.
Your comment about the low rewards offered shows how strange this whole thing is.
Very strange.
If I was a celebrity and my mother were kidnapped there would either be no reward or it would start at $100,000. The lower amounts signal: just kill her. ::)
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The initial reward was $1500. That amount struck me as weird and insulting; it’s like why even bother?
Then they raised it to $10,000. More respectable but still seemed low.
The FBI is now offering a $100,000 reward.
Having to raise the reward amount twice makes this look amateurish and desperate to me. If she needed her meds their absence will now begin to take a serious toll if it hasn’t already. It’s hard to picture the kidnapper(s) dutifully seeing to her feeding and bathroom breaks if they didn’t give a thought to her medications. I fear the worst. :'(
I think the $1500 was when they were believing she just wandered away and was "lost".
But yeah, you are correct.
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Dumb and out of touch? She was old and feeble.
It’s likely her cognitive abilities are severely declining making her childlike. She probably needed sometype of guardian.
It was reported that she was cognitively fine.
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It was reported that she was cognitively fine.
Oh.
Maybe she was dumb and out of touch then?
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Kidnappings are very difficult and problematic, something most criminals don't realise as they are seriously stupid.
Same here in Europe, the odds of getting rich by a succesful kidnapping are 0.001 %
Better try stealing from a drugdealer / smugglers, they usually have loads of cash. Sometimes many millions stacked at their houses
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This thing is starting to seem like a hoax.
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Reward increased to $102,500. Odd, to increase $2,500.
“As the investigation into Guthrie's abduction widens its scope, authorities have now increased the reward for public tips on the case to $102,500.”
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Reward increased to $102,500. Odd, to increase $2,500.
“As the investigation into Guthrie's abduction widens its scope, authorities have now increased the reward for public tips on the case to $102,500.”
$2,500 extra for shipping and handling.
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$2,500 extra for shipping and handling.
Some assembly required.
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As of February 19, 2026, the reward for information regarding the disappearance of 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie in Arizona has surpassed $200,000. This total includes a $100,000 FBI reward and a $102,500 reward via 88-CRIME, which was boosted by a $100,000 donation.
Call me cynical but when is the last time you actually heard of a substantial reward being paid out? The only one I can recall is when the State Department paid $30 million for information leading to the capture of Saddam Hussein's sons back in the early 2000s.
https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2003/22961.htm
Secretary of State Colin L. Powell Approves $30 Million Reward Payment
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What are the odds she's working as a realtor in Kitty Hawk?
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The Guthrie family is now offering a one million dollar reward. :'(
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The Guthrie family is now offering a one million dollar reward. :'(
On one hand, at least with the family behind it, someone may actually be able to collect the reward if they provide info. Unlikely so when the state/feds are behind the reward because then they try to use any excuse necessary to avoid paying. Mostly claiming that the info you provided had already come in and they were already in the process of checking it out.
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Where are all the remote viewers who supposedly can find people and solve these cases?
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Where are all the remote viewers who supposedly can find people and solve these cases?
And psychics.
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And psychics.
Two peas in a pod.
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Where are all the remote viewers who supposedly can find people and solve these cases?
Why dont her family say shes an illegal immigrant, Ice will have her by the end of the day.
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Some assembly required.
made me laugh far too much that
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Why dont her family say shes an illegal immigrant, Ice will have her by the end of the day.
:D
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She’s at the bottom of a pond
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Let's move on. She had a good run.
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Let's move on. She had a good run.
She may be still running.
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She may be still running.
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Now that there is a serious reward tips are pouring in and investigators have a lot to track down and chew on. But as I said before, having to increase the reward amount four times makes this look amateurish and unserious. Why didn't they start with the million dollar reward? No one who might have seen something is going to be motivated to lift a finger for $1500 or even a $10k reward. Now that the money is serious, everyone who might know something is paying attention and sharing what they know.
Do you notice or buy lottery tickets when the prize is $2 million or even $20 million... or do you only pay attention when it's $200 million or larger? Same idea.
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Now that there is a serious reward tips are pouring in and investigators have a lot to track down and chew on. But as I said before, having to increase the reward amount four times makes this look amateurish and unserious. Why didn't they start with the million dollar reward? No one who might have seen something is going to be motivated to lift a finger for $1500 or even a $10k reward. Now that the money is serious, everyone who might know something is paying attention and sharing what they know.
Do you notice or buy lottery tickets when the prize is $2 million or even $20 million... or do you only pay attention when it's $200 million or larger? Same idea.
In the beginning they thought there was a legit chance of finding her. They probably feel safe now offering even a billion.
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Now that there is a serious reward tips are pouring in and investigators have a lot to track down and chew on. But as I said before, having to increase the reward amount four times makes this look amateurish and unserious. Why didn't they start with the million dollar reward? No one who might have seen something is going to be motivated to lift a finger for $1500 or even a $10k reward. Now that the money is serious, everyone who might know something is paying attention and sharing what they know.
Do you notice or buy lottery tickets when the prize is $2 million or even $20 million... or do you only pay attention when it's $200 million or larger? Same idea.
In the beginning the Pima County Sheriff’s Office thought it was a person with dementia who was lost in the desert.
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In the beginning the Pima County Sheriff’s Office thought it was a person with dementia who was lost in the desert.
Maybe. But at the time the $1500 was posted as a reward, we knew she was not simply lost with dementia. The earliest national reports noted that she was of sound mind. She used to appear the today show periodically with her daughter.
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Maybe. But at the time the $1500 was posted as a reward, we knew she was not simply lost with dementia. The earliest national reports noted that she was of sound mind. She used to appear the today show periodically with her daughter.
We knew that.
People of sound mind knew that.
The Pima County Sheriff is a brain dead turd.
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Anyone heard anything new regarding Grandma Guthrie?
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Hankins will be starting a true crime podcast focusing on this case, on the belief that if he cracks it he will be let back in here.
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If anyone can find her, it`s delon !!!! LOL :D
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Probably already been said here, but she’s dead. I’m assuming she died accidentally during the abduction and these guys are panicking just hoping it goes away eventually.
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Hankins will be starting a true crime podcast focusing on this case, on the belief that if he cracks it he will be let back in here.
he already let a former girlfriend die at the hands of her abuser because he was too much of a coward to help
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In an affluent neighborhood I would think every other house has a security system, surveillance camera or door cams, motion detectors etc. At that hour of the night, there has to be some activity, somewhere, some movement captured on video of someone or some car going into or out of the subdivision.
But nothing?
It could be the police/FBI have a very good lead and are watching potential suspects but haven't released that info to the media yet so as to not 'burn' the suspect.
Its hard to believe that there are zero clues.
Maybe the motive isn't ransom. Maybe a family member stands to gain from a life insurance policy and set it up to look like ransom? Or maybe it was ransom but as irongrip says she died during the abduction and they completely panicked.
Was the blood at the scene confirmed to be Nacy's?
Correct me if Im wrong but only one guy was seen on what little video they had but he had an enormous back pack on. Im guessing it contained a tarp, or bodybag, perhaps some burglary tools.
Very odd case.
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Interesting case, but the disappearance of general Neil McCasland is a way bigger deal
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2026/03/1200/675/missing-air-force-gen-mccasland-last-seen-wearing-green-shirt.png?ve=1&tl=1)
https://www.newsnationnow.com/missing/mccasland-disappearance-national-security-concern-ufo-uap/
McCasland kept all of his security clearances and after his retirement he was hired by a company that works on particle beam weapons.
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^^^ His daughter isn't a TV personality.
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Probably already been said here, but she’s dead. I’m assuming she died accidentally during the abduction and these guys are panicking just hoping it goes away eventually.
For sure. At this point it's a search for the body.
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Probably already been said here, but she’s dead. I’m assuming she died accidentally during the abduction and these guys are panicking just hoping it goes away eventually.
The Sinaloa cartel doesn’t panic….
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How can Ring run a superbowl ad suggesting they can find your lost dog with their camera network or my phone will listen to a conversation and have ads show up based on my discussion but somehow that same tech can’t be used (in a reasonable amount of time to find out) who had cell phone service in the neighborhood that wasn’t a regular, or find all the cars that were moving through her neighborhood in the hour window before and after she was taken.
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How can Ring run a superbowl ad suggesting they can find your lost dog with their camera network or my phone will listen to a conversation and have ads show up based on my discussion but somehow that same tech can’t be used (in a reasonable amount of time to find out) who had cell phone service in the neighborhood that wasn’t a regular, or find all the cars that were moving through her neighborhood in the hour window before and after she was taken.
Exactly with all that technology I'd of thought it would've been possible.
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How can Ring run a superbowl ad suggesting they can find your lost dog with their camera network or my phone will listen to a conversation and have ads show up based on my discussion but somehow that same tech can’t be used (in a reasonable amount of time to find out) who had cell phone service in the neighborhood that wasn’t a regular, or find all the cars that were moving through her neighborhood in the hour window before and after she was taken.
They claim due to where the house is located that minimal surveillance is available.
Houses are not side by side, homes are set back from the road, often with vegetation and long driveways, lots of space between homes, and few neighbors.
The most striking thing would be the long driveways and vegetation; I assume that would make it hard to get an accurate recording of a car passing by.
But there are missing people that are never found and criminals who are never found, despite all the cameras. At any time, there are over 90,000 missing cases that are never resolved. Why should Guthrie be any different?
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:'(
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They claim due to where the house is located that minimal surveillance is available.
Houses are not side by side, homes are set back from the road, often with vegetation and long driveways, lots of space between homes, and few neighbors.
The most striking thing would be the long driveways and vegetation; I assume that would make it hard to get an accurate recording of a car passing by.
But there are missing people that are never found and criminals who are never found, despite all the cameras. At any time, there are over 90,000 missing cases that are never resolved. Why should Guthrie be any different?
The main reason she is different is because she is a national news story compared to the other 90,000 people we have never heard of.
Also her kidnapper was on camera, police know the time and location she was taken from so are 2 huge clues that, on paper, should have made it easier finding the culprit.
I worked with a woman in 2010 whose 19 year old daughter turned up missing. Police were able to track her last cell phone ping to a specific isolated country road, but that was the last of the information they had, so I understand that kidnappings go unsolved, but I think I’ve explained my reasoning why in 2026 with our technology, this shouldn’t be as difficult to solve.
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I can’t believe they kidnapped this poor old lady to distract from the Epstein Files. How low will they go?
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I can’t believe they kidnapped this poor old lady to distract from the Epstein Files. How low will they go?
They've got the war with Iran now so maybe they'll give her back.
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They've got the war with Iran now so maybe they'll give her back.
She ded and useless to them
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The main reason she is different is because she is a national news story compared to the other 90,000 people we have never heard of.
Also her kidnapper was on camera, police know the time and location she was taken from so are 2 huge clues that, on paper, should have made it easier finding the culprit.
I worked with a woman in 2010 whose 19 year old daughter turned up missing. Police were able to track her last cell phone ping to a specific isolated country road, but that was the last of the information they had, so I understand that kidnappings go unsolved, but I think I’ve explained my reasoning why in 2026 with our technology, this shouldn’t be as difficult to solve.
People have been missing for a long time, even when technology was at its peak. Its not like technology drastically exploded from 2020 to 2026 and all of a sudden we have such improved technology to find someone in 2026 vs. if someone went missing in 2020. How different was technology in 2023 compared to 2026? Of course, if we were comparing a missing person's case from 1945 to 2026, different story, but not much of a difference in the last 5-10 years in terms of technology.
"Should" have made it easier means nothing. Clearly, the pieces are not adding up for a variety of reasons. There are many unsolved cases where they have video surveillance and established timelines and the person is never found.
The only main difference which Ill agree with you on is that its made national news.
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Hopefully she was saved.
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People have been missing for a long time, even when technology was at its peak. Its not like technology drastically exploded from 2020 to 2026 and all of a sudden we have such improved technology to find someone in 2026 vs. if someone went missing in 2020. How different was technology in 2023 compared to 2026? Of course, if we were comparing a missing person's case from 1945 to 2026, different story, but not much of a difference in the last 5-10 years in terms of technology.
"Should" have made it easier means nothing. Clearly, the pieces are not adding up for a variety of reasons. There are many unsolved cases where they have video surveillance and established timelines and the person is never found.
The only main difference which Ill agree with you on is that its made national news.
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You might have missed this commercial for the Super Bowl. Ring says they use AI to find pets. I think technology is at its peak today and AI is a huge technological advancement with in the last 5 years. This commercial makes it seem like finding a needle in a haystack is possible. Maybe our technology isn’t as advanced as advertised?
What’s interesting is we are so advanced yet we can’t find an 84 year woman who was taken from her home and there’s a nationwide alert looking for her.
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You might have missed this commercial for the Super Bowl. Ring says they use AI to find pets. I think technology is at its peak today and AI is a huge technological advancement with in the last 5 years. This commercial makes it seem like finding a needle in a haystack is possible. Maybe our technology isn’t as advanced as advertised?
What’s interesting is we are so advanced yet we can’t find an 84 year woman who was taken from her home and there’s a nationwide alert looking for her.
We should implant old people so we can find them.
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You might have missed this commercial for the Super Bowl. Ring says they use AI to find pets. I think technology is at its peak today and AI is a huge technological advancement with in the last 5 years. This commercial makes it seem like finding a needle in a haystack is possible. Maybe our technology isn’t as advanced as advertised?
What’s interesting is we are so advanced yet we can’t find an 84 year woman who was taken from her home and there’s a nationwide alert looking for her.
I saw a guy ask 3 different AI's to colorize a black and white picture. Each AI added and subtracted details to their version of the picture. AI isn't all it's cracked up to be.
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I saw a guy ask 3 different AI's to colorize a black and white picture. Each AI added and subtracted details to their version of the picture. AI isn't all it's cracked up to be.
It's getting better by the day.
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I saw a guy ask 3 different AI's to colorize a black and white picture. Each AI added and subtracted details to their version of the picture. AI isn't all it's cracked up to be.
LOL this is a good point. I don’t think AI is the end be all, but for facial recognition/license plate reading it should be useful.
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It's getting better by the day.
Maybe. What I saw was incorrect assumptions by AI in the image. Several objects changed and even disappeared from the B&W to the color pic. Prominent items as well. A rug that was forefront disappeared, a vase with flowers turned into a cereal box, with the flower still in it. Major flaws IMO for such a simple task.
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some of the AI before and after movie actors are incredibly lifelike
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Fuck AI...I`m old school !!
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Fuck AI...I`m old school !!
Old school like bushy vaginas!