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To take my mind off the fast looming horrors of domestic fascism and peak oil, I was pondering the more manageably sized doom scenario of what happens to bodybuilding competition when Joe Weider squeezes out his truly final rep and begins his eternity of torment in the fiery nether regions of Hell. [You can't really picture him working abs with Eugen Sandow in Gold's Gym Heaven, can you?]
Does Ben assume control - like Charles finally ascending the throne of England after a life wasted playing second fiddle? Does Vince McMahon try to revive the WBF? Do the athletes - their last tenuous link with financial security severed - turn full time to selling steroids and/or ass?
Discuss.
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The bodybuilders might actually start making some money once that senile bastard croaks.
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Hasn't he basically sold everything already?
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Hasn't he basically sold everything already?
"Just over a year ago Weider sold his fleet of magazines for $350 million, but he continues to serve on the board of the current publisher."
http://www.utexas.edu/education/news/weidnerdonat.html (http://www.utexas.edu/education/news/weidnerdonat.html)
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he's the colonel sanders of bodybuilding
they'll manage just fine
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Dont know why most people here hate on Joe Weider so much. I don't know him personally or even a lot of the actual events surrounding his life, but he is to bodybuilding what Henry Ford is to cars. Sure he may have ruffled a few feathers on the way and all, but he never put a gun to someone's head or forced anyone into any situation. I'm sure any of his associates / employees / athletes had ample opportunities to read contracts and refuse them if they wanted. Voluntarily signing a (Weider) contract and then winging about the terms of it is just as pathetic as the people who sue Tobacco companies after chain smoking themselves into lung cancer.
I know people like Onlyme constantly bash the IFBB, but if you think about it, did the IFBB actually force anyone to do anything - NO. Anyone else feel this way ???
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Shawn Ray & Bob Chick will try to be the new messiahs.:-\
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There will be no money for the bbers. They will have to fight for every cent. Some will even turn to gay-4-pay and/or selling drugs for income. Shows will be fixed, and the Olympia will be a shell of its former self. The bbers rep will be turn out to be a "company man" as opposed to representing the bber's best interests. Flex mag will turn to recycling their articles, and pretend the drugs don't exist in bbing. Women's bbing will be moved to the expo, and will become an afterthought.
Oh wait, you said after Weider croaks.............. :-\
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It will go back to what it was BEFORE Weider.
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hopefully the sport will evolve without the current political bullshit it has
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Dont they have any children? I figured at least Joe would - Betty Weider was mint. I can honestly say I would have been all over that all day long.
(http://www.bettyweider.com/images/betty9.jpg)
(http://www.bettyweider.com/images/betty2.jpg)
(http://www.bettyweider.com/images/betty3.jpg)
(http://www.bettyweider.com/images/betty7.jpg)
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what happens to bodybuilding competition when Joe Weider squeezes out his truly final rep
Maybe he will do some forced reps and some negatives. :o
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Shawn Ray & Bob Chick will try to be the new messiahs.:-\
Yeah, SUUUUURE they are.
Shawn Ray and Chick were probably made all kinds of promisses by the old bastard, but, in one final agonizing blow....he will leave it all to coleman!!!!!
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Weider is part of what's wrong with bodybuilding. Bodybuilding was his business, and that's why it's not a sport.
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Dont they have any children? I figured at least Joe would - Betty Weider was mint. I can honestly say I would have been all over that all day long.
(http://www.bettyweider.com/images/betty9.jpg)
(http://www.bettyweider.com/images/betty2.jpg)
(http://www.bettyweider.com/images/betty3.jpg)
(http://www.bettyweider.com/images/betty7.jpg)
Betty had an awesome v-taper with that tiny waist and those huge orbs.
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To take my mind off the fast looming horrors of domestic fascism and peak oil, I was pondering the more manageably sized doom scenario of what happens to bodybuilding competition when Joe Weider squeezes out his truly final rep and begins his eternity of torment in the fiery nether regions of Hell. [You can't really picture him working abs with Eugen Sandow in Gold's Gym Heaven, can you?]
Does Ben assume control - like Charles finally ascending the throne of England after a life wasted playing second fiddle? Does Vince McMahon try to revive the WBF? Do the athletes - their last tenuous link with financial security severed - turn full time to selling steroids and/or ass?
Discuss.
There's a passage on this in the book of musclelations. His death will mark the birth of the second beast, or what you would also call the second coming of Arnold. The message is clear, a new Arnold will emerge and grow into the next legend but just as the first beast gave birth to modern bodybuilding the second beast will eventually bring about it's death. The time draws near gentleman.
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Joe Weider is already out of bodybuilding. Ben is the one in control of the IFBB. Joe had the magazines. Ben had the IFBB. Joe sold the mags to AFI. Ben still runs the IFBB.
However, when they're both gone, I think there will be a lot of tell-all books.
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If Betty had any kids they probably aren't Joes, if you know what I mean. Plus, when the Weiders go, then finally BB will move forward and more money will be given out. Who will run it.
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If Betty had any kids they probably aren't Joes, if you know what I mean. Plus, when the Weiders go, then finally BB will move forward and more money will be given out. Who will run it.
Agreed, bodybuilding has been boxed up with the Weiders!
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If Betty had any kids they probably aren't Joes, if you know what I mean. Plus, when the Weiders go, then finally BB will move forward and more money will be given out. Who will run it.
Could you elucidate further?
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To take my mind off the fast looming horrors of domestic fascism and peak oil, I was pondering the more manageably sized doom scenario of what happens to bodybuilding competition when Joe Weider squeezes out his truly final rep and begins his eternity of torment in the fiery nether regions of Hell. [You can't really picture him working abs with Eugen Sandow in Gold's Gym Heaven, can you?]
Does Ben assume control - like Charles finally ascending the throne of England after a life wasted playing second fiddle? Does Vince McMahon try to revive the WBF? Do the athletes - their last tenuous link with financial security severed - turn full time to selling steroids and/or ass?
Discuss.
Not sure, but I think the weiders are already dead, they just don't want to accept it!!!!!!!!!
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he's the colonel sanders of bodybuilding
they'll manage just fine
when weider dies, things will only get better...
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Dont know why most people here hate on Joe Weider so much.
Because the truth must be told.
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Not sure, but I think the weiders are already dead, they just don't want to accept it!!!!!!!!!
They might not die for a while. Joe's mother lived past 100! :o
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Without 'em, I don't know, I'm guessing it might turn into something of a freak show.
Should be a Principle that covers this, no?
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In that pic with Betty in her spandex she is hot as hell. Nice mini camel toe and you can see right through it. How come they liked it hairy back then.
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bump... for more naked pics of Betty ;D
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Don`t try to look at Betty now.
In the 80`s she started to look like a basset hound, jowls and all.
God knows what this bicth looks like now (UCKH)
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Don`t try to look at Betty now.
In the 80`s she started to look like a basset hound, jowls and all.
God knows what this bicth looks like now (UCKH)
This is mean, but ;D
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Well first the office will have a party
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Don`t try to look at Betty now.
In the 80`s she started to look like a basset hound, jowls and all.
God knows what this bicth looks like now (UCKH)
But I think she had her lips done since this photo
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Just found an pic of Betty from the 2002 Olympia expo. You can tell she was hot at one time still
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Just found an pic of Betty from the 2002 Olympia expo. You can tell she was hot at one time still
BARF
I just threw up my Met-Rx shake.
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Dont know why most people here hate on Joe Weider so much. I don't know him personally or even a lot of the actual events surrounding his life, but he is to bodybuilding what Henry Ford is to cars. Sure he may have ruffled a few feathers on the way and all, but he never put a gun to someone's head or forced anyone into any situation. I'm sure any of his associates / employees / athletes had ample opportunities to read contracts and refuse them if they wanted. Voluntarily signing a (Weider) contract and then winging about the terms of it is just as pathetic as the people who sue Tobacco companies after chain smoking themselves into lung cancer.
I know people like Onlyme constantly bash the IFBB, but if you think about it, did the IFBB actually force anyone to do anything - NO. Anyone else feel this way ???
Bro your very off on this topic, a few feathers? More like....force anyone????More like... the only contract is with weider or no contracts at all, if you are a athlete, you are a employee you are a "associate" you are a....If your a bodybuilder and you really want to make it and he sees you can make him money and your good enough to become somethign he offers you the chance you dont take it you dont make it period. It is a monopoly and it will continue most likely even when he is gone.
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Just found an pic of Betty from the 2002 Olympia expo. You can tell she was hot at one time still
onlyme, someone needs to give you an award ;D. I've never seen someone with such an impressive collection of disgusting pics :-X
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onlyme, someone needs to give you an award ;D. I've never seen someone with such an impressive collection of disgusting pics :-X
Their in my family album
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Their in my family album
:D ;D :-\ :'( Remind me not to come to your family reunions :'(
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The bodybuilders might actually start making some money once that senile bastard croaks.
Why should a bodybuilder be supported by Joe Weider financially for a career?
Look what Arnold and Franco did. They lived off of Joe for a few years, they also went to college and learned how to build their own lives and make their own way.
I am so fed up with lazy fucks that want someone to carry them. Bodybuilding is not a career, it is a sport they might last for a pro maybe 5 to 10 years at best and only a few guys on the top can make anything anyway. Anyone thinking otherwize is a dolt.
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Why should a bodybuilder be supported by Joe Weider financially for a career?
Look what Arnold and Franco did. They lived off of Joe for a few years, they also went to college and learned how to build their own lives and make their own way.
I am so fed up with lazy fucks that want someone to carry them. Bodybuilding is not a career, it is a sport they might last for a pro maybe 5 to 10 years at best and only a few guys on the top can make anything anyway. Anyone thinking otherwize is a dolt.
Great post! Do powerlifters expect to be rolling in dough ::)
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Why should a bodybuilder be supported by Joe Weider financially for a career?
Look what Arnold and Franco did. They lived off of Joe for a few years, they also went to college and learned how to build their own lives and make their own way.
I am so fed up with lazy fucks that want someone to carry them. Bodybuilding is not a career, it is a sport they might last for a pro maybe 5 to 10 years at best and only a few guys on the top can make anything anyway. Anyone thinking otherwize is a dolt.
Agreed, Fantastic point of view!
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They have been dead for years.
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When they die we should hav a Barbeque
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Why should a bodybuilder be supported by Joe Weider financially for a career?
Look what Arnold and Franco did. They lived off of Joe for a few years, they also went to college and learned how to build their own lives and make their own way.
I am so fed up with lazy fucks that want someone to carry them. Bodybuilding is not a career, it is a sport they might last for a pro maybe 5 to 10 years at best and only a few guys on the top can make anything anyway. Anyone thinking otherwize is a dolt.
Arnold and Franco actually had their own masonry business in the early days. They built chimneys and stuff.
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Bro your very off on this topic, a few feathers? More like....force anyone????More like... the only contract is with weider or no contracts at all, if you are a athlete, you are a employee you are a "associate" you are a....If your a bodybuilder and you really want to make it and he sees you can make him money and your good enough to become somethign he offers you the chance you dont take it you dont make it period. It is a monopoly and it will continue most likely even when he is gone.
Of course he wants to make money off the bodybuilder(s) and of course he offers that chance only when someone is good enough - after all, its business and everyone is there purely to make a profit. Are you saying that the Weiders should just give their money away to bodybuilders regardless of whether they are good or not, out of charity? It's just like any other form of employment - you've got to put in the work consistantly and most importantly, get results or get your ass fired!
And weider is not a monopoly LOL - a monopoly can only be enforced by the government. Vince Mc Mahon started the WBF, and now Wayne has the PDI to give 2 examples. Some of you guys winge about the fact that the contracts are ruthless and the bodybuilders aren't paid well or picked up from the airport etc, but no one is forcing these guys to compete or even sign the contract in the first place. The bottomline is that no one owes the competitors ANYTHING. Sure it would be nice to have these guys treated the way they deserve to be, like athletes from golf or tennis, but they are not OWED that. Like someone pointed out, powerlifters don't get any pay etc. It's the same with bodybuilding - one can make a living out of it if they are in the 1st or 2nd tier, but unfortunately, its acceptance is just not wide enough to enable all the guys in the top 100 to live off it :(
It's basically the same old story of people whining about how they are worth more and should get paid more etc. If any of you guys employ other people, you know what I'm talking about. Things could always be better - the boss could be more relaxed / lenient, the pay could be better, the perks could be better blah, blah, blah the list goes on
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Why should a bodybuilder be supported by Joe Weider financially for a career?
Look what Arnold and Franco did. They lived off of Joe for a few years, they also went to college and learned how to build their own lives and make their own way.
I am so fed up with lazy fucks that want someone to carry them. Bodybuilding is not a career, it is a sport they might last for a pro maybe 5 to 10 years at best and only a few guys on the top can make anything anyway. Anyone thinking otherwize is a dolt.
You've got a great point here. I wouldn't go as far as calling bodybuilders "lazy f*cks" though LOL (at least not all of them :P). I think its just unrealistic of them to expect uncle Joe to pay them and treat them like how athletes from sports are paid / treated. Unfortunately, reality dictates that when it comes to money, there is no exception to the law of supply and demand - the more a sport is embraced / popular, the more the participating athlete is going to make from it.
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Don`t try to look at Betty now.
In the 80`s she started to look like a basset hound, jowls and all.
God knows what this bicth looks like now (UCKH)
Imagine Joe looking at that now, and thinking about what he had back in the 50's and 60's.
Now I know why they made Viagra.
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If Betty had any kids they probably aren't Joes, if you know what I mean. Plus, when the Weiders go, then finally BB will move forward and more money will be given out. Who will run it.
*Bump* for onlyme to further explain
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*Bump* for onlyme to further explain
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Now I know why Arnie became friends with Joe, and Arnold saying he didn't drink milk, look at those udders, I beg to differ.
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Why should a bodybuilder be supported by Joe Weider financially for a career?
Look what Arnold and Franco did. They lived off of Joe for a few years, they also went to college and learned how to build their own lives and make their own way.
I am so fed up with lazy fucks that want someone to carry them. Bodybuilding is not a career, it is a sport they might last for a pro maybe 5 to 10 years at best and only a few guys on the top can make anything anyway. Anyone thinking otherwize is a dolt.
This is a very good post. BB are lazy. Other than training hard for a couple hours a day they are lazy. They do not go out and promte themselves, they try to rely on BB as a living and that doesn't work. They want to be treated like babies and taken care of. They are big momma's boys. They wouldn't be so broke and living hand to foot so much if they went out and promoted themselves.