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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: jwb on May 16, 2006, 06:58:17 PM
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I know I haven't spent a penny on tickets, magazines, videos for at least the past 5 years yet i'm more up to date than i've ever been.
Has everything we get for FREE from the net killed the sport?
Less dollars coming in (mags/tickets) must be making it harder and harder for them to spend it on the shows and athletes...
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Good for AMI/Weider/FLEX and MD? No.
Good for fans? Yes.
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Good for AMI/Weider/FLEX and MD? No.
Good for fans? Yes.
not good if the sport continues to contract and contract...
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It would be even worse without the internet. Where and how would the PRO`s coordinate their deals and cycles?
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It would be even worse without the internet. Where and how would the PRO`s coordinate their deals and cycles?
the friendly neighbourhood dealers would return!
i know guys that broke into a vet pharm warehouse a took an entire truck full of stuff... those were happy days
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not good if the sport continues to contract and contract...
FYI......Bodybuilding is not a sport!
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Golf is a sport.. Hardcore athletes..
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Golf is a sport..
Yep!
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The intnet and message boards COULD have been a huge help to bodybuilding, but it has had the opposite effect. Why? Most come on these sites just to get a rise , stay in the shadows and never do anything constructive for our sport.
Howard
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The internet is great for bodybuilding, because now the money being made from the industry as a whole isn't being made by only a few people.
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The internet is great for bodybuilding, because now the money being made from the industry as a whole isn't being made by only a few people.
what big $$$$$? serious???
I don't see any bodybuilding companies going public with a weekly new IPO?
Failure to get TV contracts and major corperate sponsers have hurt the real bucks that could be made.
It is a simple case of the fast internet nickel for a brief time or the slow steady dollar and future growth
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easier access to info is always beneficial. i'm sure supplement cos. and shippers w a decent product are also benefiting and will increasingly continue to do so. they might channel some of their gains to the "athletes."
athletes probably receive more exposure too . . . odds are we'd never have heard of the great Sami al-hadad and mo elbuffooni otherwise.
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the internet has undoubtedly helped escalate gay4pay and Joanna Thomas-type entrepreneurial activity . . . maybe the bbs can directly benefit from this in ways previously not possible.
easier access to info is always beneficial. i'm sure supplement cos. and shippers w a decent product are also benefiting and will increasingly continue to do so. they might channel some of their gains to the "athletes."
athletes probably receive more exposure too . . . odds are we'd never have heard of the great Sami al-hadad and mo elbuffooni otherwise.
pose for pay is another blackeye on the sport.
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Dunnno but its great for porn !!! :D
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So that's why there are now 15 "special" 6 page muscletech ad reports in every bodybuilding rag that I pick up... to make up for the losses from the internet... kind of like the RIAA / MP3 thing...
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FYI......Bodybuilding is not a sport!
my sig says otherwise
assclown ::)
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I know I haven't spent a penny on tickets, magazines, videos for at least the past 5 years yet i'm more up to date than i've ever been.
Has everything we get for FREE from the net killed the sport?
Less dollars coming in (mags/tickets) must be making it harder and harder for them to spend it on the shows and athletes...
Great post! Magazine sales are down and I doubt the internet has helped supplement companies much.
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my sig says otherwise
assclown ::)
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Your sig is wrong....and by the way, It's Mr. assclown to you!!
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The net has driven the sport down a dark alley for good....good night, I need to go j-off to some hot bodies site now....that I don't approve of hehehe
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nothing is good for the sport anymore :P...wait its not a sport
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nothing is good for the sport anymore :P...wait its not a sport
Awesome avatar ;D And no, bodybuilding is not a sport ;D
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Im selling my used posing trunks by the car full!
so ill go with a yes!
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Im selling my used posing trunks by the car full!
so ill go with a yes!
What's the price? I'll pay extra for unwashed pairs ;D
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What's the price? I'll pay extra for unwashed pairs ;D
you sniff you buy!!
($19.99 order before midnite tonite and ill throw in one of Cheri's bras!!!)
www.mikearvilla.com
HURRY ORDER NOW!
I SAID NOW!
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you sniff you buy!!
($19.99 order before midnite tonite and ill throw in one of Cheri's bras!!!)
www.mikearvilla.com
HURRY ORDER NOW!
I SAID NOW!
ROFL....I'll bet a few people will be disappointed when they find out that you are just joking ;D
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I guess my point is that back in the 80-90's weider were earning big dollars from supplements, magazines and healthy ticket sales and that some (we all know not enough...) went back into putting on decent shows and even to athlete contracts when the WBF came around in 1990.
Don't forget mailorder used to be huge. Arnold made a fortune selling his courses directly through mailorder as did mike mentzer for that short period he was the messiah.
Some pros even made decent money writing books that were published by big publishers. Zane had several successful books.
Now the top 5 guys get all the guest posing work, decent supplement deals, prize money and mag deals but the incomes drop very fast after that...
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the internet is good if they have a product. would like to know how tanji does with client sign-ups , dina with membership and a couple of others out there. to the general pop men's bbing = steriods that's offline or online. that has always killed expansion... esp with non-industry money.
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the internet does the following:
- gets guys to record and distribute shows after they occur for free
- has ripped dvds on filesharing networks
- gives more up to date information than the magazines and books
- gives more recent interviews
- lets fans directly interact with pros instead of going to seminars
- has pictures and video clips distributed frequently
- lets fans talk about what supplements are worth buying at all and which are the best deal
as a result, people don't need to go to shows, go to seminars, buy magazines, buy books, buy webcasts or pay per views, buy dvds, or even spend money on most supplements to get the information and images that such purchases normally provide. seven methods of revenue that the internet may be wiping out.
show tickets, magazine sales, and supplements which pay for adspace in magazines are where most money comes from. with so few people willing to pay for what they can get for free, where do we propose the business gets its revenue?
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Well think about it. Before the internet was around BB was at it's highest. When it evoleved BB got worse and worse and now is at its all time low. Mix that with Weiders and you have an evolving loser
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what big $$$$$? serious???
I don't see any bodybuilding companies going public with a weekly new IPO?
Failure to get TV contracts and major corporate sponsers have hurt the real bucks that could be made.
It is a simple case of the fast internet nickel for a brief time or the slow steady dollar and future growth
There are more competitors and more ancillary personnel making more money than ever before. That's important.
The reason that Canon, GMC, and other major corporations no longer sponsor bodybuilding has *nothing* to do with your assertion.
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pose for pay is another blackeye on the sport.
Why?
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I know I haven't spent a penny on tickets, magazines, videos for at least the past 5 years yet i'm more up to date than i've ever been.
Has everything we get for FREE from the net killed the sport?
Less dollars coming in (mags/tickets) must be making it harder and harder for them to spend it on the shows and athletes...
The mags sucked! Bullshit routines and endless product hawking. Lies and deception about what the guys use to put on all that size... I haven't bought one in years. Except for all the wannabes who seethe with jealousy and seem to hate the Pros(if you can't be em, hate em), the net's been great for bodybuilding.
*Contest results and pics right away
*The Pros honest opinions
*Open gear discussion
* Supplement reviews from people who have no vested interest in promoting a product
very few down sides :)
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Golf is a sport.. Hardcore athletes..
It's funny you say that, because most retired athletes (too many to mention) spend all of their time these days playing golf.
I recently heard an interview with Michael Jordan saying that he felt that Golf was definitely the most difficult sport to play consistently and that we was amazed at how pro golfers could win several tournaments in the same year. He also said that in terms of co-ordination and mental toughness golf had to be up there as well.
Funny I must have missed the part where he talked about pro bodybuilding.
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It's funny you say that, because most retired athletes (too many to mention) spend all of their time these days playing golf.
I recently heard an interview with Michael Jordan saying that he felt that Golf was definitely the most difficult sport to play consistently and that we was amazed at how pro golfers could win several tournaments in the same year. He also said that in terms of co-ordination and mental toughness golf had to be up there as well.
Funny I must have missed the part where he talked about pro bodybuilding.
Yeah but MJ was no stranger to the juice.
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Yeah but MJ was no stranger to the juice.
(http://gfx.dagbladet.no/kultur/2002/07/12/oj1ap.jpg)
OR
(http://www.soulwalking.co.uk/%A5Artist%20GIF%20Images/Oran-Juice-Jones-99.jpg)
(Oran Juice Jones)
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Funny I must have missed the part where he talked about pro bodybuilding.
did you ever think that maybe he knew he couldn't handle bodybuilding so he never bothered trying 8)
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did you ever think that maybe he knew he couldn't handle bodybuilding so he never bothered trying 8)
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Yeah, you're probably right.
One of the greatest true athletes of all time....unbelievable work ethic, drive, intensity, clutch shooting, vertical leap, playoff performers, 6 time NBA champion, multiple time MVP and olympian couldn't Handle Bodybuilding.... ::)
What exactly couldn't he handle? Going 3.0 on the treadmill????
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did you ever think that maybe he knew he couldn't handle bodybuilding so he never bothered trying 8)
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I think you've hit the nail on the head. I'm sure MJ not only knew he couldn't handle bodybuilding, I'm sure he deeply regrets not pursuing the "sport" instead of basketball. I'm sure he'd gladly give up the tens (if not hundreds) of millions of dollars, the healthy internal organs, and normal lifespan he probably has in a heartbeat to trade places with KL or any other top bodybuilder.
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haha apparently you guys aren't familiar with sarcasm ::)
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It's funny you say that, because most retired athletes (too many to mention) spend all of their time these days playing golf.
I recently heard an interview with Michael Jordan saying that he felt that Golf was definitely the most difficult sport to play consistently and that we was amazed at how pro golfers could win several tournaments in the same year. He also said that in terms of co-ordination and mental toughness golf had to be up there as well.
Funny I must have missed the part where he talked about pro bodybuilding.
I'd love to see him take up bodybuilding.. What "SPORT" do you think he'd have a better chance of beating a pro at? Then you will find your answer which is harder.. Note: I got a hole in one on a par three when I was 9..
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MINI PUT PUT DOSENT COUNT o and mj earned 500mil just from air jordanm contract and clothing line in the last 5 years so yer im sure he is sitting at home with his wife and kids and his millions of dollers still with that whole in his heart that only body building would of filled
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MINI PUT PUT DOSENT COUNT o and mj earned 500mil just from air jordanm contract and clothing line in the last 5 years so yer im sure he is sitting at home with his wife and kids and his millions of dollers still with that whole in his heart that only body building would of filled
I think he got beat by some old fat guy last time he played golf if I remember correctly.. Funny how hard this sport is that some old fat guy can beat a rich pro athlete.. Maybe the old guy was on the juice..
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The internet and message boards COULD have been a huge help to bodybuilding, but it has had the opposite effect. Why? Most come on these sites just to get a rise , stay in the shadows and never do anything constructive for our sport.
You know - I tend to agree with you there, which is why I wrote some new guidelines on the main boards to start working on making bodybuilding more positive for all. People who don't like the industry so go away.
Magazine sales are down and I doubt the internet has helped supplement companies much.
I know I haven't spent a penny on tickets, magazines, videos for at least the past 5 years yet i'm more up to date than i've ever been.
Now this is a serious issues. Magazine sales are down for all - for entertainment, sports, news, niche mags - because the Internet, in the last 7 years lets you find information, news, pictures and more faster than the magazine. How does Time Magazine give us the news when you can get it right away on the Internet, on television.... same with entertainment magazines... and with bodybuilding magazines. What can they do to make people buy them.
The answer is to give us the stories that we can't get online right away. Interviews, training pictures, photo shoots, more on the expo, training articles, etc.
Less dollars coming in (mags/tickets) must be making it harder and harder for them to spend it on the shows and athletes... I guess my point is that back in the 80-90's weider were earning big dollars from supplements, magazines and healthy ticket sales and that some
Well - it was different then. In 1993, there were no bar companies nor very many supplement companies. Steel Bar, Powerbar were the first bars. Balance Bars, Clif Bars came later. Now you have many different bars by many different companies. Same with the supplement industry. Before Met-Rx came along (when Milos was selling it from his trunk), there where very few. Twinlabs, Weider, etc. Then in the 1990's, you had an explosion of companies (EAS, Labrada and so one) until there were 100's of them. Then in the 2000's, mainstream started to buy some out (EAS, Pure Protein, Metrx, etc), and putting them in mainstream markets, dilluting the health stores, etc. Many supplement companies sponsored athletes, and still do. But everybody now looks at their ROI.
as a result, people don't need to go to shows, go to seminars, buy magazines, buy books, buy webcasts or pay per views, buy dvds, or even spend money on most supplements to get the information and images that such purchases normally provide. seven methods of revenue that the internet may be wiping out.
This is the worst of it. Somehow, there should be a way where the fans of bodybuilding should come to the shows and expos and go over things, like many other sports or industries do. I do not understand how one can criticize, yet never go to a show or expo. There is absolutely ZERO reason why you can't go to one of them. Zero.
Hopefully, we can start working on that.
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IMO, companies are able to make MORE money by using the web, EVEN magazines like FLEX and MD. Why? Because they could just as easily offer the same content on their website for a fee, and many of us would buy it. Why can't we pay $5 and download each issue of MD? I know I would! (Note, Boss B: Monster profit margins!)
Plus, remember back in the day when you wanted to order something- you'd cut out the page, mail in a money order with your handwritten order, and wait 6-8 weeks for it to arrive? Today, you place an order, confirm immediately, and can follow the package for 2 days via UPS.com
There is a reason that the web is up, mags are down, and these companies are not doing better (AMI's sales are taking a beating right now- i posted the numbers today):
They refuse to embrace the web and lose control. Sure, a few kids might scan articles and share them. BUT the overall savings (printing and distributing a mag ain't cheap!) and the increased business (many of us would ALWAYS buy MD if it was as easy as clicking a paypal button) would more than compensate for the lost paper sales.
But, they'll catch on about a year after a competitor does it. Like many firms in this industry, control always outweighs growth- a fatal mistake in any industry which is continually changing.
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Think about the porn mags.. Who needs those anymore now that we have internet porn..
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Think about the porn mags.. Who needs those anymore now that we have internet porn..
Yes this is the best thing about the internet. If all else fails, please keep the porn going strong.
And actually, I think it would be allot easier, cost effective and profitable for all the magazine to be available online. Instaed of spending millions of dollars to print and distribute the printed copy, have it available online for viewing and/or download for half the price for the printed version. You would get more people looking and buying the magazine. They can literally put exactly whats in the printed version on the net and only have to do it once. Back issues would be easy to get, articles and information would be available faster, millions of dollars would be save and many more millions would be made. If someone wants to print out 1 pages or the whole magazine they have the choice. Just look at how much money could be saved even in paper which would save trees. Ink, all the aspects relating to the printing of the magazines. It is a great idea.
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First of all - kudos for a good thread and many interesting posts.
Let this be a trend, guys ;)
Internet has changed the system of spreading information.
When I started to be interested in BB I read Flex. And this was
the channel of info, back then. The internet has totally changed
the way I look on BBing and bodybuilders. This has it's up&down side.
I know not only about steroid, but about GH, synthol, etc etc.
I'm no longer brainwashed by Flex/Weiders/AMI,
so Cell-Tech isn't the only thing they use? ;), thats good.
I get more accurate infomation about the sport on internet,
also the downside of it which is interesting.
Financially, I think that it is only the magazines thats "hurting".
But they must change the consept, more in depth, interviews,
training articles etc. If they loose money, will that effect the
pro bodybuilder? If so, then internet can be a problem, as it is
today.
Djohnsen
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the 3 best things that happened/happen/will happen to bodybuilding are:
INTERNET
CHINA
PDI (if managed right the moment joe and ben are 6 feet under, and it's not too far, it will be a whole new game)
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IMO, companies are able to make MORE money by using the web, EVEN magazines like FLEX and MD. Why? Because they could just as easily offer the same content on their website for a fee, and many of us would buy it. Why can't we pay $5 and download each issue of MD? I know I would! (Note, Boss B: Monster profit margins!)
Plus, remember back in the day when you wanted to order something- you'd cut out the page, mail in a money order with your handwritten order, and wait 6-8 weeks for it to arrive? Today, you place an order, confirm immediately, and can follow the package for 2 days via UPS.com
There is a reason that the web is up, mags are down, and these companies are not doing better (AMI's sales are taking a beating right now- i posted the numbers today):
They refuse to embrace the web and lose control. Sure, a few kids might scan articles and share them. BUT the overall savings (printing and distributing a mag ain't cheap!) and the increased business (many of us would ALWAYS buy MD if it was as easy as clicking a paypal button) would more than compensate for the lost paper sales.
But, they'll catch on about a year after a competitor does it. Like many firms in this industry, control always outweighs growth- a fatal mistake in any industry which is continually changing.
We shall see if this is true. I think that some people would get MD and the rest would discuss a story in it. That's not too bad, but I think we'll still laugh at the photoshopped covers ;D
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The music industry has grown eventhough the execs cry behind belief that file sharing sites are killing them. How many new fans have been exposed to the sport since the internet? A lot of athletes have setup shop at sites like myspace and developed a bit of a following there. This activity doesnt happen with just magazine on a shelf. IFBB and other companies connected to the sport, lifestyle or whatever have to grow up.
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The music industry has grown eventhough the execs cry behind belief that file sharing sites are killing them. How many new fans have been exposed to the sport since the internet? A lot of athletes have setup shop at sites like myspace and developed a bit of a following there. This activity doesnt happen with just magazine on a shelf. IFBB and other companies connected to the sport, lifestyle or whatever have to grow up.
True. The labels (RIAA) should have EMBRACED the web, and made just about any cd available for download for $8.
We never would have heard of napster or morpheus- there wouldn't have been a market. College kids can afford $8 for a complete $18 CD instantly.
However, greed and control will cause many to plow ahead with blinders on as the world changes around them.
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Think about the porn mags.. Who needs those anymore now that we have internet porn..
If you want to learn about true profitability, you need to follow the adult industry's example.
Right now, for example, the Colorado Pro Show should be available for Download on Demand at $9.95-19.95 for all those who missed it.
I still sell more DVDs than downloadables, but believe me, the Download on Demand stuff is catching up fast.
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mark this post up for 2016.
by 2016 there will be no more bodybuilding/fitness supp stores (that include gnc stores). everything will be bought online.
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2016?????
By the end of two thousand and sick, there will be no more bodybuilding-fitness supply stores because of dangerous new laws that will prevent people from buying supplements because of the anti-steroid act :'(
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The music industry has grown eventhough the execs cry behind belief that file sharing sites are killing them. How many new fans have been exposed to the sport since the internet? A lot of athletes have setup shop at sites like myspace and developed a bit of a following there. This activity doesnt happen with just magazine on a shelf. IFBB and other companies connected to the sport, lifestyle or whatever have to grow up.
Music Industry revenues are down.
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2016?????
By the end of two thousand and sick, there will be no more bodybuilding-fitness supply stores because of dangerous new laws that will prevent people from buying supplements because of the anti-steroid act :'(
im talkin about any type of supp including protien powders, drinks, vitamins and such. no more stores for that stuff in 10 years beside what you find in walmart and such.
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im talkin about any type of supp including protien powders, drinks, vitamins and such. no more stores for that stuff in 10 years beside what you find in walmart and such.
Are you willing to go on record with this?
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Are you willing to go on record with this?
correct. no more stores for the above mentioned in 10 years,,there will be zero profit for bodybuilding "street" stores,,,everything will be done online.
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correct. no more stores for the above mentioned in 10 years,,there will be zero profit for bodybuilding "street" stores,,,everything will be done online.
You know we'll all forget about this then ;D
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getbig.com been around for 10 years ;) no one will forget about anything gh15 says especially when it's backed up with solid evidence. for now i take it easy with the board because i respect ron but there will be a place and time you will know a whole lot about the sport of bodybuilding.
ya i know "its not a sport" i save you the sentence :D
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In 10 years, if you want to buy supplements, you're going to have to do it online or at a superwalmart.
Imagine the advances made in shipping and deliver in the next 10 years, with technology improving and the population growing, which justifies growing the infrastructure greatly in a limited space.
In 10 years, you'll be able to order creatine from BBing.com after breakfast, and it'll be at your house before you get home from work.
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In 10 years, if you want to buy supplements, you're going to have to do it online or at a superwalmart. Imagine the advances made in shipping and deliver in the next 10 years, with technology improving and the population growing, which justifies growing the infrastructure greatly in a limited space.
Hmmm. 7-10 years ago, that is exactly what they were savings. People were paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for domain names, promising the world, predicting than within a few years, there will be no more stores. Well, it didn't happen. While the internet is definately evolving and becoming a part of our lives, some people still prefer to go to stores. Even to buy books, music and DVD's. In 10 years from now, there will be a mixture of both...
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i agree there will still be stores- but i think that the big stores like superwalmart will continue to grow offerings and lower prices until it's just not cost effective for GNC to rent the building.
I love to shop in person, always will. But with the position that Walmart and others possess, the others are going to suffer in the future. If walmart has a 1% advantage today, it'll be a 2% advantage the next year, and in another 20 years, it is going to be hard to open anything in the low-cost area (where most people shop) without getting killed by WMT.
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2016?????
By the end of two thousand and sick, there will be no more bodybuilding-fitness supply stores because of dangerous new laws that will prevent people from buying supplements because of the anti-steroid act :'(
I disagree, and yes while some nutrition chanis may go belly up, I sincerely doubt most of them will. Why? The dotcom boom and then bust of recent years proved that most business models need the "bricks and morter" type of infrastructure to be a permanent success.
Cyber sites don't build many permanent assets on the balance sheet. Of course we have some exceptions.
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hell yeah the NET is good for the sport, GETBIG.COM RULES!!!!!!!!!!
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getbig is the best place in the whole internet
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I disagree, and yes while some nutrition chanis may go belly up, I sincerely doubt most of them will. Why? The dotcom boom and then bust of recent years proved that most business models need the "bricks and morter" type of infrastructure to be a permanent success.
Cyber sites don't build many permanent assets on the balance sheet. Of course we have some exceptions.
They at least need to be able to control distribution networks.
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Hmmm. 7-10 years ago, that is exactly what they were savings. People were paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for domain names, promising the world, predicting than within a few years, there will be no more stores. Well, it didn't happen. While the internet is definately evolving and becoming a part of our lives, some people still prefer to go to stores. Even to buy books, music and DVD's. In 10 years from now, there will be a mixture of both...
What is this "internet" you speak of? Sounds like Comi-propaganda!
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What is this "internet" you speak of? Sounds like Comi-propaganda!
I hear that there are actually several of these "internets" ;D
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I hear that there are actually several of these "internets" ;D
Yes, and apparently these "internets" are being invaded by mass numbers of surfers!!!
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Yes, and apparently these "internets" are being invaded by mass numbers of surfers!!!
And we can all thank Al Gore for inventing them for us.
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And we can all thank Al Gore for inventing them for us.
Al can't even spell internet..
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Before the internet, you couldn't get the final placings, nevermind the competitors list till at least a month after the event. That was the biggies nevermind the small shows. To me that is the best thing the internet did for bodybuilding. It cut the supplement bussines bigtime, that I can attest to. People can get stuff cheaper than some of the wholesale prices I pay. That sucks, but like someone said brick and mortar is what the masses want, not must a . com and faceless company. All in all their's nothing you can do to fight progress. You join or die. Simple.
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Al can't even spell internet..
You can't spell Al ;D
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Good for AMI/Weider/FLEX and MD? No.
Good for fans? Yes.
great for the fans. free pics more updates free downloads email fans etc being able to talk to pros on this. just sum twats abuse it. ya know 240.
ami weider is a business. much like ur own. you sell ur soul for business so do they.
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Before the internet, Schmoes had to attend all the shows in order to talk to their objects of worship. Now they can chat online, in the privacy of their home, for only $12.95 a month. Even get flexing sessions and nude pics and video.
For schmoes the Internet is the greatest thing since the Penoris............
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Before the internet, Schmoes had to attend all the shows in order to talk to their objects of worship. Now they can chat online, in the privacy of their home, for only $12.95 a month. Even get flexing sessions and nude pics and video.
For schmoes the Internet is the greatest thing since the Penoris............
Are there any of these schmoes posting here? :-\
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I would say Getbig.com is good for BBing, now before people bring up the "attacks" and trashtalking just think of all the great debates with valid points and the thousands of great photos put up here. If it wasn't for this place i know i wouldn't have the knowledge of pro BBers/BBing that i posess now. Also where else can you talk to pros about their progress and get up to date precontest photos on a almost daily basis.
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Are there any of these schmoes posting here? :-\
THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I would say Getbig.com is good for BBing, now before people bring up the "attacks" and trashtalking just think of all the great debates with valid points and the thousands of great photos put up here. If it wasn't for this place i know i wouldn't have the knowledge of pro BBers/BBing that i posess now. Also where else can you talk to pros about their progress and get up to date precontest photos on a almost daily basis.
Agreed! Ron has done a good job with this site. Now... he need to sell ads on the site... so he give away trips and prizes to members, and cover shows better.