Mike,
I am missing somebody....I can't make out the guys name on the poster..
Rhino looks good but the arms are a definate weak point.
What?
In comparison to Rhino, Palumbo is Flex Wheeler.
Show me some contest pics of this Rhino guy...
YIP
Zack
your missing James "Tiny" Vest...............
and BIG -ANT
both are PDI PROS.................
My dear freind Jimmy, will be a pro, but needs to qualify. He plans to do so in Orlando.
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OOOPS................... ........I'm sure he will easily qualify
but thanks for correcting my mistake
(lol and here i was acting like a know it all )
This guy too (although he'd add a few more lbs if he competes again) ;)
-John
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Thanks arvilla
No wonder he never made it into the IFBB.
Terrible structure. Has nothing going for him.
What contest record does he have? I found a Jack London at musclememory.com who competed in NABBA back in 1997 and came 3rd at some amateur contest, is that him?
The PDI is supposed to be about better symmetry. Why do they give him a pro card?
Last time I checked, they didn't hand out pro cards on personality traits... ::)
YIP
Zack
Come to the NOC and find out why. I am not letting any good pics out yet.
You will have to attend the show to see why.
Where are those pics of me from the Delaware last year, you have them? (me and 2 other guys)
i can't find them
Thats a pretty bald Kovacs like statement that makes me think of Chad when he was coaching him for Arnold a few years back. Well good luck anyway, and I sincerly hope Rhino does well and have improved as much as Arvilla says.
while im no doubt biased (jack is my friend)
i truly believe in the man/his work ethic
and the improvements he has made
great work Jack!!
Yes, I will BRING THE PAIN-that much I know.
Ok....Jack's bringing the pain, Mike and I will bring the noise!!
Jack...in a heterosexual kind of way....keep the gotee and stache....you look better!Step on a Bodybuilding Stage Before you judge others that do!!!
Step on a Bodybuilding Stage Before you judge others that do!!!
NO! That's why people get on stage, asshole! TO BE JUDGED!
I'm not gonna kiss someone's ass and give them false compliments just because they get on a fuckin' stage!!!!
If you look good, I'll say it. If you look like shit, I'll say it.
meltd0wn!
I think he is trying to say that if you look like shit, then who are you(or anyone) to judge others. I say, if someone is going to engage in opinions, then they should at least post pics of themselves, so that they can be rated, and it can be determined what the value of their opinion is. I mean if you are a fat slob, who the fucvk are you to comment on someone elses conditioning. This, I believe.
Ok. Sounds good to me. :P ;D
what happened to your head Jack?
what happened to your head Jack?
He has to think with his new job, he just did it to hard. ;D
:-* :-*
Talk to you soon.... ;)
Last year, I hit it on the trunk of my car, getting my gym bag. Then went in the gym, squatted, and bled all over the place. Monster blood(LOL).hahaha, i did almost the same thing, i was going to bed one night and i bent down to get something off the floor and the light was off and i bumped my forehead on the sharp corner of one of the small doors of my dresser, hurt like a bitch.
It was pretty funny, then everyone thought I was so fucking hardcore after that.
I have a friggin permanent scar.
If I am talking to chicks though, the story change drastically!!! You know, 5 guys jumped me, I wooped them all, sounds good, but still has not gotten me laid(LOL)
hahaha, i did almost the same thing, i was going to bed one night and i bent down to get something off the floor and the light was off and i bumped my forehead on the sharp corner of one of the small doors of my dresser, hurt like a bitch.
Yeah, thats probably cause you have a good physique. Anyway, littleguns is good man, he is team rhino, how bout you, you on the team? come on brotha!!!!
Yeah man, I am always doing stupid shit like that, not paying attention. I dropped a 45 pound plate on my foot once, wearing flip-flops, about 20 years ago, broke several bones
Rhino=idiot
hahaha, i did almost the same thing, i was going to bed one night and i bent down to get something off the floor and the light was off and i bumped my forehead on the sharp corner of one of the small doors of my dresser, hurt like a bitch.
What a line-up. Can't tell whether its a pro show or a pro-qualifier......hahahahahaha!!!!!well said!! ;D
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Thanks arvilla
No wonder he never made it into the IFBB.
Terrible structure. Has nothing going for him.
What contest record does he have? I found a Jack London at musclememory.com who competed in NABBA back in 1997 and came 3rd at some amateur contest, is that him?
The PDI is supposed to be about better symmetry. Why do they give him a pro card?
Last time I checked, they didn't hand out pro cards on personality traits... ::)
YIP
Zack
He was depleted of muscle at that show.
Vince, your just an idiot.
I don't see why some of you guys don't lend some support to the PDI. Its in its rookie year. Its going to be build from ground up. Its just another opportunity for us BBers to compete at a pro level and also an opportunity to change some of the judging criteria in a fresh organization. Don't think of it replacing the IFBB as much as providing another option. More shows, more $ and possibly better judging criteria...and it takes this bashing? Do some of you like the direction the IFBB has forced guys to go? Do you think its fair that some of these awesome athletes from Europe get screwed often?
If you don't like the PDI or someone involved, fine but give it a chance and some support. Anything good for the athletes and the sport is worth giving a hand.
fixed.
If the criteria for the pdi is a movement for more pleasing physiques then GALANTI is their posterboy.the lineup of physiques they have will be interesting,all have various degrees of muscle,some more or less successful in contest's pro and amateur.hopefully it is organized professionally and doesn't turn into a one trick pony.
BBers and fans should be excited about the possibility of the PDI being successful. Its the powers that be in both organizations that can duke it out for athletes and fans....not us!yup... the more the merrier... i mean look how well the XFL is doing and what it's done for the quality of the NFL....
What a line-up. Can't tell whether its a pro show or a pro-qualifier......hahahahahaha!!!!!
As long as the shows are nothing like the IFBB shows then everything will be great. Over the past few years the IFBB has shown and proved they cannot do shows. This year has been the biggest black eye so far. One cancelled show and one show undr so much shit it should have been cancelled. And their are still a couple more IFBB shows that may cancel this year. So the the IFBB is heading south fast. To bad cause it couldn't have happened to a nicer group of idiots and assholes
The WBF at least had legitimate pros competing. The PDI is a hodge-potch of destitute pros looking for a handout or A cup of hot soup and beans and some washed up NPC and NABBA competitors who somehow.... ::) were given pro cards????
Best way to describe it is that the PDI is a clusterfuck that is waiting to fail.....AGAIN!!!
Then ironically we can get back to cleaning up the mess Wayne made in the IFBB
hodge-potch ......has this phrase been used before to describe anything about bodybuilding?
Well, thank you for the kind words....from the guys that are going into the NOC, I will be lucky to crack the top 10 in this event.
You guy's have no clue on who is jumpping over to the darkside.....LOL
Vinny - crack the top 10. As I have discussed with you offline, I think you have a great physique that many of us realists strive for. Ins aying that it makes me really wonder who will show up at the NOC if you are saying "lucky to crack the top 10"Wayne and I were talking last night, we both train at the same gym....I was in shock as to learn a top name that has already switched....but this competitor wont make an offical announcement untill you see him on stage in September, no secret...it's just how he wants to handle it...he is a no drama guy.
Any idea when the other "jumpers" will be announced?
And then there are a few good names that place top 5 in proshows....but they are not done competing this year, so they are keeping quite too.
all in all the show will be a very good one.
No, Palumbo and Kovacs are the exact wrong people to go to the PDI (if they want to place that is)...look at the judging crtieria. Think more about guys like Horvath, Rockel, David Henry....guys that are incredible but either not mass monsters or don't have the name to place higher in the IFBB.
The WBF at least had legitimate pros competing. The PDI is a hodge-potch of destitute pros looking for a handout or A cup of hot soup and beans and some washed up NPC and NABBA competitors who somehow.... ::) were given pro cards????
Best way to describe it is that the PDI is a clusterfuck that is waiting to fail.....AGAIN!!!
Then ironically we can get back to cleaning up the mess Wayne made in the IFBB
As much of a doofus as Vince is, this post makes a lot of sense. This is a tiny "sport" with a miniscule fan base. The PDI is not going to grow the fan base, and there is not enough room for two federations. Only one will survive...the one with the 1st tier pros...Yes, the PDI will grow the fanbase IMO. This is not due to growing the sport of bodybuilding, but mainly bringing back in the types of fans that IFBB has lost.
As much of a doofus as Vince is, this post makes a lot of sense. This is a tiny "sport" with a miniscule fan base. The PDI is not going to grow the fan base, and there is not enough room for two federations. Only one will survive...the one with the 1st tier pros...
I know who it is :)
We'll see....but the sport was growing like crazy in the 80s and early 90s. I think PART OF the backward direction we have moved is because of unatainable physiques, excessive supplement use and rewarding ugly physiques. Its too far removed from the sporting public...but the physiques weren't in the 80s and early 90s. The judges allowed a new standard with Dorian and Ronnie and many tried to chase them and ruined their physiques.
Some people will always think BBing is "disgusting" but I'll bet you guys like Richard Jones, Bob Paris, Phil Heath, Flex, etc will get a hell of a lot more positive looks from the SPORTING public than the mass monsters with big guts that look like fat powerlifters in the offseason.
And for all you guys that will argue everyone hates BBer physique, I can't tell you how many positive responces I get in the summer at 230-235 lean and cut. Many people still respect us if we don't look like complete freaks of nature.
Oh shit....rhino said I'm pretty....what kind of pre-contest diet you got yourself on? :o (...and how am I going to tell him that the only man for me is Mike Arvilla, that latin beast!)Ummm, he's not latin Shootfighter, but he is def a beast. ;)
Oh shit....rhino said I'm pretty....what kind of pre-contest diet you got yourself on? :o (...and how am I going to tell him that the only man for me is Mike Arvilla, that latin beast!)
We'll see....but the sport was growing like crazy in the 80s and early 90s. I think PART OF the backward direction we have moved is because of unatainable physiques, excessive supplement use and rewarding ugly physiques. Its too far removed from the sporting public...but the physiques weren't in the 80s and early 90s. The judges allowed a new standard with Dorian and Ronnie and many tried to chase them and ruined their physiques.235, you're a BEAST. ::)
Some people will always think BBing is "disgusting" but I'll bet you guys like Richard Jones, Bob Paris, Phil Heath, Flex, etc will get a hell of a lot more positive looks from the SPORTING public than the mass monsters with big guts that look like fat powerlifters in the offseason.
And for all you guys that will argue everyone hates BBer physique, I can't tell you how many positive responces I get in the summer at 230-235 lean and cut. Many people still respect us if we don't look like complete freaks of nature.
I think he is trying to say that if you look like shit, then who are you(or anyone) to judge others. I say, if someone is going to engage in opinions, then they should at least post pics of themselves, so that they can be rated, and it can be determined what the value of their opinion is. I mean if you are a fat slob, who the fucvk are you to comment on someone elses conditioning. This, I believe.
He's not mexican?? Oh my dreams have been crushed.lol, thanks Shootfighter. Everyone always thinks he is but he is 50% native American Indian and 50% Portuguese and 100% hot. :)
you guys are cool cheri.
Mindspin, I agree on some points but definitely not all of us are involved in the shady side. Jack and I are professionals and don't have to rely on BBing for an income so we do this mostly for the love of the game.
So many of the guys that lifted in the 60s, 70s and 80s and would still follow the sport are somewhat turned off to it cause of the direction the IFBB rewarded after Haney. I know its a sliding scale but there is a distinct difference in the physiques pre early 1990s and post early 1990s and I think that has something to do with the decrease in popularity. Remember when american muscle, bodyshaping, flex magazine, and shows were broadcasted on ESPN?!?! I'm not that old, but I loved that shit when I was young, totally inspired me and I'm sure it would to others if it were still on.
Sarcasm, I never said I was a beast but if someone is really 230-235 and lean...(not bloated up on tons of supps) thats pretty respectible. Sure, I could get to 250-260 if I wanted to but I stay lean and stay healthy. What did Heath weigh when he wooped everyone at the Colorado and NY? 215! Its not all about the weight, its about structure and appearance.
There was a time when people looked at bodybuilders with respect...something to aspire to...the epitome of masculinity and health. However, the ugly truth is out. This "sport" is riddled with drug abuse, prostitution and there is nothing healthy about it. Further, the "muscle-bound" stereotype seems to be true. People once thought of bodybuilders as strong and powerful. However, that's no longer the case. Look at what MMA has done. You have 180lb pencil necks destroying 250 monsters.
BBing had its shot at mainstream, but the crossover appeal was just not there. Even with the "pretty physiques". This "sport" is a niche and always will be. And as such, you have to give the niche consumer what it wants...the best of the best. Unless PDI can lure more than 1-2 tier one pros, it will not succeed.
Pro Shows or IFBB Qualifiers like the USA's and Nationals
I am no marketing guru but just wondering if this will hurt or help the NOC, keeping people under wraps
A) Not knowing.....Will people show up wanting to see who defected???
B) Knowing...will this bring in more fans knowing who is in the show???
So you're telling me you've never watched a football (or baseball, etc) game and commented on how some guy was lacking in some skill? (Pick any sport you like where you never competed in that sport - and I'm not talking about pick up football)
There would be no sports industry if your statement were valid.
lol, thanks Shootfighter. Everyone always thinks he is but he is 50% native American Indian and 50% Portuguese and 100% hot. :)
You got it boss. 235 clean in the offseason. Some guys only supplement in prep for shows.
thanx baby!!why thank ya handsome. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/Gifs/battinglashes.gif)
(your not so bad yourself! :-*
Bodybuilding shows are inherently boooring. Even for many core fans like myself. Unless you are watching a show with one of your friends in it, or a top-level show like the Olympia or Arnold, it's pretty much a yawn fest. Once you've seen four or five guys pose, it gets monotonous. This is why it will never cross over. There is nothing you can do to make it more exciting. If you start adding props, gimmicks, etc. it just perverts the "sport" for the true fans. I do agree that getting rid of the gut-monsters will bring back some old fans, but stop kidding yourselves. It will never be like the 80's again. In fact, it will never be much more than what it is now.
I disagree, if that were the case, attendance would not be dropping in the IFBB/NPC.just because the attendance is droping in ifbb/npc doesnt mean its gonna improve for another federation, it just means people dont give a rat ass about bodybuilding as a whole.
Vinny GalantiReminds me of Bob Paris. Nice to see a more classical physique.
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What a line-up. Can't tell whether its a pro show or a pro-qualifier......hahahahahaha!!!!!
The WBF at least had legitimate pros competing. The PDI is a hodge-potch of destitute pros looking for a handout or A cup of hot soup and beans and some washed up NPC and NABBA competitors who somehow.... ::) were given pro cards????
Best way to describe it is that the PDI is a clusterfuck that is waiting to fail.....AGAIN!!!
Then ironically we can get back to cleaning up the mess Wayne made in the IFBB
just because the attendance is droping in ifbb/npc doesnt mean its gonna improve for another federation, it just means people dont give a rat ass about bodybuilding as a whole.
No,no,no. What it means is that the fanbase is dropping because the fans are sick of the same old thing.... I hear it everyday "i'm not going to the olympia this year Jack, because I already know the outcome"oh yeah, lets spend all this dough to see a muscle display show that isnt even a sporting event
They then proced to say " I am going to the NOC though, wayne always puts on a great show"
Mind you, I am not saying this because I am in the show, this is what I am being told......
oh yeah, lets spend all this dough to see a muscle display show that isnt even a sporting event
i was lamenting having attended the mr olympia in previous years when ronnie 'won' and the idea of going again and again.. when the same dude wins. it's like being stuck on stupid and ronnie stopped being a favorite after a few 'wins'
Bodybuilding shows are inherently boooring. Even for many core fans like myself. Unless you are watching a show with one of your friends in it, or a top-level show like the Olympia or Arnold, it's pretty much a yawn fest. Once you've seen four or five guys pose, it gets monotonous. This is why it will never cross over. There is nothing you can do to make it more exciting. If you start adding props, gimmicks, etc. it just perverts the "sport" for the true fans. I do agree that getting rid of the gut-monsters will bring back some old fans, but stop kidding yourselves. It will never be like the 80's again. In fact, it will never be much more than what it is now.
the only people that are intrigued are a % of the crowd that already atend bodybuilding shows (and probably not a large %, as with the exception of lee priest, who wants to pay money to watc a load of lower tier guys - no offence rhino). The guys have just got pysiques that are far too unatainable to your average guy that trains hard but doesnt juice much. Thats why it just isnt going anywhere. Just my 2c
Thats cool, I respect your opinion, 1) I think after you see me and others onstage, you will change your opinion of our (my) quality. 2) Most IFBB shows are filled with guys who are not even 2nd tier pros, guys I could beat easily.
but again, everyone has their opinion, I will be excited to change the naysayers, just because I want to, I think this hsow will be great, because of the "wildcards" like me.