did you try his real name or did you just ask for "rhino"?
did you try his real name or did you just ask for "rhino"?
Vince, good use of your time.
Next, I suggest cardio, therapy, or perhaps GED study.
Carry on!
He used his full name: Rhinoceros.
did you try his real name or did you just ask for "rhino"?
No, I know he won the NABBA North America but I couldn't find any details on the competitors or anything. Very strange but I think I know why. I believe there was some dispute regarding ownership of the name and the records had got lost.
LOL ;D ;D ;D
Vince, I just called the Falcons and they have no record of you except some odd graffeti in the toilet stalls. There offer still stands but is is for toilet duty in the visitors lockerroom. Call them! Hurry your future is going down the drain
LOL ;D ;D ;D
Vince, I just called the Falcons and they have no record of you except some odd graffeti in the toilet stalls. There offer still stands but is is for toilet duty in the visitors lockerroom. Call them! Hurry your future is going down the drain
The year was 1997. Minimum wage was $4.75, which ironically, is what you still earn per hour with Labor pool, right?
Vince, please post some new pics so you can shut these non-believers up.
The year was 1997.
BTW, 240 I heard your little crack that I couldn't place in a bodybuilding event. Care to make a friendly wager?????
The other year it was an April Fools day joke but this one is the real deal this time. Someone pointed out my post from last year when I was doing security work for the Falcons and although I wasn't hired by them, it was one of the key reasons as to landing the spot because one of the folks there gave me a hook-up.
Now as far as being an assistant trainer, of course its an assistant trainer position. You can't just come off the street and simply be the HEAD TRAINER UNLESS YOU STARTED AS AN ASSISTANT TRAINER!! Come on folks, lets be serious. I would let everyone know what team I'll be working for but some of you folks will problably call them up and bug the hell out of them or try to get me fired or something.
Although I'll be taking a significantly less as the position only pays a measily 20K a year and will problably be doing a lot of the grunt work (stacking weights, cleaning equipment, etc), ITS THE NFL !!! and its an opportunity to learn a lot and to either move up the ladder or re-start a new consulting business after a few years with some impressive credentials. Besides, it'll be a pretty cool position and I'll get to travel to all the games and work on the sidelines. Plus since my room and bed plus meals are paid for, I'll be able to save up a lot of money. Besides, I'll also be at all the teams events and parties.
So to all you haters out there, kiss my ass.
http://www.nabba.com/keystone04.cfm
medium tall class
http://www.nabba.com/keystone04.cfm
medium tall class
Answer the challenge, bitch. Do you care to make a wager on me not being able to place in a bodybuilding show this year????
LMAO,
Oh it was great when Vince requested a pic of 240 tolaugh and then scrolldown and see his man boobs,lol.
Medium-Tall Class
1. Jack London (#54)
Vince, YOU calling someone bitch is like Corky from Life goes on calling someone retarded. But I digress.
Explain the terms of your wager. What is the contest?
Answer the challenge, bitch. Do you care to make a wager on me not being able to place in a bodybuilding show this year????
Don't be afraid. Look at my pictures in 2004. Its easy money for you bro??? Take the challenge my friend
Vence your not Micke Arvilla. He looked better than you when he was out of shape vs you on the stage. If you werent 7 feet tall, I would say maybe, but you prob wont ever place in a bodybuilding contest, ever... sorry.... :'(
Vince took 9th place in the middleweight division at his last show. No way in hell he gets anywhere near 5th in the heavies.
Its easy money for you bro??? Take the challenge my friend
200 dollars that I cannot place in the top 5 in a bodybuilding event. Same deal as the Kamali bet
For the show I attended last year, most of the classes only had 2 to 5 competitors. Then there was the over 40 and over 50 class, which only had 2 guys per class. So top 5 isn't really a big deal if there are only 5 guys in your class.
http://www.nabba.com/keystone04.cfm
Did you guys read the bottom?
OVERALL – MR. KEYSTONE STATE – JACK LONDON
and Most Muscular Award
This is proof of Jack's placings.At least one of them.
Ok, how about this.
If I win my class in a show by the end of the year, you design a new website for free
If I lose, I pay you 300 dollar plus another 100 dollars on top of that for the website.
That a little better????
Vince, omg man..are you smoking the crack pipe?
My buddy won his heavy weight class a few Years ago, NPC open. He looks AMAZING. I mean, genetics that well, make us all look like slobs.
I cant see how much you could of improved from those old pics. Your lacking SERIOUS musclarity to even DREAM of competing in the heavies..the only negative i see in some heavyweight classes is they sometimes come in soft, and not in great shape. Middle weight is usually the toughest class imho..I cant believe it! Hey, Alexx is 240 lbs right now, he wants to compete and says hes in contest shape, so maybe you guys can both so a show together, enter the Heavy weight class!!
Vince...you look like you've lost size since your humiliating pics. Is this really you now?
Ok, how about this.
If I win my class in a show by the end of the year, you design a new website for free
If I lose, I pay you 300 dollar plus another 100 dollars on top of that for the website.
That a little better????
That's me a few weeks after the car accident. Took a couple to let everyone know things were alright
That's me a few weeks after the car accident. Took a couple to let everyone know things were alright
Lets just go by this picture from early February. Best front-double bi since Jocelyn Pelletier:
LOL ;D ;D ;D
Vince, I just called the Falcons and they have no record of you except some odd graffeti in the toilet stalls. There offer still stands but is is for toilet duty in the visitors lockerroom. Call them! Hurry your future is going down the drain
Nah, let's be more creative than that. I like to keep getbig battles and business separate. How about loser has to take a picture doing something really embarassing?
Is that a gang sign that you're flashing? :-\
no, it's how he fingers himself.
yes, he has 3 openings "down there".
I just contacted the NABBA office and they have no record of you winning the NABBA US Show. Honestly they didn't have not any records to be exact as to the competitors or day of the event. I'm sure you won the show a few years ago but I cannot fathom as to why there is no records of it.
Could you post a picture of the trophy with the date or let me know where I can find the information needed???? Thanks
what did you win for contest placing?
... a bottle of bee pollen..
Vince.. you are the champ
::)
i feel the following will be this years excuses....
-he forgot his posing trunks in the hamper at the shelter he lives in so he had to stop by K-Mart and pick up some fruit of the looms to wear on stage
-he really believed that box of marshmallow scmores nutritional label that said 2 "net carbs" grams per serving.
-he got pulled over by the cops for speeding on the way to the show doing 140 miles per hour in his Saturn and didnt make it to the show on time to properly pump and oil up
-they saw his nipples and mistakenly entered him into the figure class
- we are all haters and he will show us next time
If this was Vince in Feb and his show is in July, he be in trouble
are you trying to say that Vince looks like shit ?
No.
I wouldn't want to piss off shit.
Yes, be careful. You don't know Vince's fighting history
Answer the challenge, bitch. Do you care to make a wager on me not being able to place in a bodybuilding show this year????
Don't be afraid. Look at my pictures in 2004. Its easy money for you bro??? Take the challenge my friend
I just contacted the NABBA office and they have no record of you winning the NABBA US Show. Honestly they didn't have not any records to be exact as to the competitors or day of the event. I'm sure you won the show a few years ago but I cannot fathom as to why there is no records of it.
Could you post a picture of the trophy with the date or let me know where I can find the information needed???? Thanks
Vince....you actualy went out of your way and called the NABBA to find out info on Jack?
VINCE YOU ARE A TOOL.....LOL LOL LOL
Best part is, he probably explained to the poor kid on the phone that he is a high level exec, doing research for the IFBB, yet refused to give his real name.
"IM GONNA KICK YOUR ASS IF YOU JOIN THE PDI!"
"IF YOU JOIN THE PDI, YOU WILL BE BLACK LISTED"
;D
Vince....you actualy went out of your way and called the NABBA to find out info on Jack?
VINCE YOU ARE A TOOL.....LOL LOL LOL
If this was Vince in Feb and his show is in July, he be in trouble
Its in Sept and it only takes 8-12 weeks to diet down...... ::)
Well, he's stating he's won the NABBA North America show and apparantly its not true from what I heard from them. Unless someone could produce that he did indeed win an overall...... ???
You look like you could use 8 to 12 years, Vince ShouldRun ;D
You look like you could use 8 to 12 years, Vince ShouldRun ;D
So is the bet on or not????
So is the bet on or not????
Who will take the bet? ???
Vince ShouldRun.
Dude, I'm still chuckling here.
Okay, what are the parameteres of the bet? You gotta win your class? What is the show? The heavy class at my local show had no entrants. You can't win unopposed, Vince.
Yes, I do.
Obesity 1, Vince 0.
Well, he's stating he's won the NABBA North America show and apparantly its not true from what I heard from them. Unless someone could produce that he did indeed win an overall...... ???
this is interesting.. how come no response from rhino yet?
Its in Sept and it only takes 8-12 weeks to diet down...... ::)
http://www.southernmuscleplus.com/02-06/thismonth.htm
This is the show that Vince said he'll be doing.
Last year's winners:
(http://www.southernmuscleplus.com/images/webquality/2006_02/Mountaineer_Overalls.jpg)
Thirty-five-year-old Marzell Penix of Danville, KY was the unanimous choice of the judges for the lightheavyweight class win and entered into the final comparisons and pose down of the class winners and took the majority of first place votes from the judges for the overall title.
Vince, do you think you can hold your own on stage with guys like this?
240, what do you think about the legitimacy of RHINO's pro status?
From what I understand, he won his class at a NAABA event. This meets the criteria of the PDI's standards for pro card issuance. Wayne met him and invited him to join the PDI and he accepted.
He has not met the requirements for the IFBB. But he has met them for the PDI. He's a big guy and if he is out of his league next to Priest and Taylor, he will not earn prize money or titles. If he can hang with them onstage, he will earn money and titles.
IMO, after the initial adjustment period, fans won't care how the guys got there. It'll be more about "will X outmuscle Y, will A come in ebtter conditioned than B"? Same with how many new fans have no clue how Ronnie, Branch, Bob Chic, or other worthy pro show winners earned their pro status.
Jack London
1997
World Championships - NABBA, Medium-Tall, 3rd
Answer the challenge, bitch. Do you care to make a wager on me not being able to place in a bodybuilding show this year????
Don't be afraid. Look at my pictures in 2004. Its easy money for you bro??? Take the challenge my friend
If you look up musclememory.com, he has only placed 3rd in the Medium-tall class
If this is the legit contest record of RHINO, I don't see how he should be qualified for a pro card in the PDI?
YIP
Zack
I just contacted the NABBA office and they have no record of you winning the NABBA US Show. Honestly they didn't have not any records to be exact as to the competitors or day of the event. I'm sure you won the show a few years ago but I cannot fathom as to why there is no records of it.
Could you post a picture of the trophy with the date or let me know where I can find the information needed???? Thanks
1997 Nabba World Championships 3rd
2004 Keystone State Champion and Overall, Most muscular
I emailed him and he said he also placed in many local NPC shows. I bet he will be on this to answer later.
Why didn't you send him a personal message instead of a public thread? Are you some kind of bodybuilding official wannabe?
Why didn't you send him a personal message instead of a public thread? Are you some kind of bodybuilding official wannabe?Thats what I did. I just sent dude an email and he was very straight forward.
http://www.nabba.com/keystone04.cfmBeen there dont that
medium tall class
No, I know he won the NABBA North America but I couldn't find any details on the competitors or anything. Very strange but I think I know why. I believe there was some dispute regarding ownership of the name and the records had got lost.
Gary Guin won in '97
Found the website.
http://www.nabba.com/keystone04.cfm
My faith in Tim Fogarty's website is shattered!!! :'(
YIP
Zack
HE DIDN'T WIN THE OVERRALL????? THIS IS ALSO FOR THE KEYSTONE STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS???? HE'S NOT A MR NORTH AMERICA!!!!
I TAKE EVERYTHING BACK NOW BASED ON THIS INFO THAT I SAID. I'm sorry Rhino but you haven't earned the right to be a pro
I cant wait for RHINO to come in here- Im gonna ennjoy this..hahaha....Im sure hes gonna be upset coming from you Vince, a top level amateur bodybuilder..but wait- you did guarantee to win the heavyweight class in your next show..hmmmm...pose down between you and Rhino Vince? ;D
Probably because as incredible and unheard of it may seems, Melvincent Goodrum is probably right this time.
I checked "our friend" musclememory.com, timfogarty's website for Rhino's contest record last night, I was curious on his former placings. The only contest recorded is a third place in a class at a NABBA contest in 1997.
But RHINO could probably explain this.
This could be a good topic for PDI Radio. What's up with Rhino's qualification?
YIP
Zack
Wrong again, as usual. You are making yourself look like such an idiot. I was not on the computer, well, because I am preparing for , oh yeah, thats right THE NOGHT OF CHAMPIONS-tool. what were you doing last night....
LMFASO
If you look up musclememory.com, he has only placed 3rd in the Medium-tall class
If this is the legit contest record of RHINO, I don't see how he should be qualified for a pro card in the PDI?
YIP
Zack
Great post, Jack! Some of these geeks check up on one website and think they know everything ::)
I will say it again, because something is not on the internet, that means it does not exist? The so called "experts" can't see that there is another step in going from local show-to the World Championships. You have to win a national show to be considered to compete, and represent the USA, in a world event for Nabba.
DUH....
Maybe you guys think that the World championships was my first contest, since you can't find anything before it? Man, if thats the case, I did pretty fucking good for my first outing......
I just contacted the NABBA office and they have no record of you winning the NABBA US Show. Honestly they didn't have not any records to be exact as to the competitors or day of the event. I'm sure you won the show a few years ago but I cannot fathom as to why there is no records of it.
Could you post a picture of the trophy with the date or let me know where I can find the information needed???? Thanks
Oh, and by the way, I just want to say the Vince has always been a Rhino supporter and I don't think his question was to attack me, I think it is a legitimate question, ans I apreciate the repsect that he has afforded me. I will tell you all, for the last time-I won The 1996 Nabba Mr. North America. And I this has been verified by Wayne Demilia, see you at the NOC.
I just had a chance to read some of the comments vince made on another thread about me and the other PDI athletes, and I take bck what I said.
Vince, you are more than welcome to come compete against me on sept. 16th, oh wait-you are not qualified....sorry.
See you in the audience, where you belong.
My advice? Go spend the years sacrificing and sweating blood in the gym, as I have, then maybe you will get your respect, you won't get it by putting me down.
I saw your pics, and dude, you could not carry my gym bag, it would be too heavy.
Wait until he pulls out his new supersecret supplement :o
Yeah, I got a supersecret supplement...right here!
lolbrutal photoshop ownership...
Yeah, I got a supersecret supplement...right here!
way to throw the gang signs... ::)
That's me a few weeks after the car accident. Took a couple to let everyone know things were alright
but most people want to get on stage at 4% BF or less... not 12%
Its in Sept and it only takes 8-12 weeks to diet down...... ::)
How long did you diet for your last show ?
Its in Sept and it only takes 8-12 weeks to diet down...... ::)
LOL@ at this whole thread!
(even if Rhino never placed in " THE SQUIDWARD CLASSIC"... Wayne has made him a PDI PRO)
be happy for him..................... ....(the fact that he has placed/won overalls in big shows is icing on the cake)
christ!!!!!!!
Great post. I wonder why we can't just be happy for Jack and for other pros :-\
Jealousy.
Everone read my last post on the night of champions poster. It says it all.
You all fucking rule and I will fight to the death to do as well as I can, for all of us.
Do it! Don't listen to Vince. I know he would lose against Yoshi when it comes to a bench pressing contest!
Everone read my last post on the night of champions poster. It says it all.
You all fucking rule and I will fight to the death to do as well as I can, for all of us.
Don't worry Jack, The Squad's got your back.
Jack, I'm surprised you even answer some of these stupid threads. Guys, Wayne accepted Jack as a pro...end of story. Even some IFBB pros were granted status. Remember, there will be lots more PDI pros than Vinni, Jack and I on this thread, Lee and Vince, and the numerous European pros announced so far. Its just the beginning.
I have to say that Vince's new found mass and balanced muscularity will easily dominate when he decides he want to compete. The shades are a nice touch as they highlight his celebrity like presence. Overall I think he'll dominate his next show with first place votes. If a picture is worth a thousand words, this one just rewrote bodybuilding as we know it.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=73833.0;attach=80957;image)Venom Vince "Shades of Dorian" Versace Goodrum
Vince, how tall are you? You think you'll be able to hang with the heavies? If you competed as a middleweight out of shape in 2004, you think you'll be a ripped heaviweight now?? Venom Vince.
I actually had a nightmare about Vince last night. Dude crossed into negative bodyfat % and cause some kind of space-time continuum issue.
In all fairness to Vince these pictures show improvement. Also he is willing to wager on it, say what you want but I don't see 240 posting pics
You also don't see 240 making wagers on his placement at the 2006 Southern Muscle. Vince uses gear, claims to be a guru, and claims to be a competitive BBer. I do not.
You also don't see 240 making wagers on his placement at the 2006 Southern Muscle. Vince uses gear, claims to be a guru, and claims to be a competitive BBer. I do not.
if Vinces uses gear then I take back what I said. Not that it matters but he should look better.
Vince Goodrum has bragged about using gear.
Vince Goodrum has bragged about using gear.
I haven't used steroids, only pro-hormones and I haven't used those since 2001. I quit using them after I stopped working as a correctional officer. I have used "The Magic Stick" however its wasn't a steroid as well. I have always considered using them and I was at a point where I had a bottle of homemade tren sitting on my desk. However I never used it and got rid of it.
I am much bigger and leaner now but its really thanks to some hard training, better supplements, and much less aerobic activity. I only do 40 minutes a day 4 days a week right now and will add another session of 30 minutes however it will be in the morning on an empty stomach.
Basically, the difference is that I'm paying my dues and I training to win regardless of what everyone else thinks.
Division, you don't know jack squat about "The Magic Stick" or the Fina deal at all.
First off, "The Magic Stick" is not Fina. Number two, I never had a problem with securing a distributor who sold Fina as its commercially available and would have made a great addition to my vet supplies. It was a matter of asswipes like you who run off at the mouth and talk too much as though the Feds don't monitor these websites.
As far as the Fina now mixed with estradiol, psst..that's easy to get rid of. Its just a matter of freezing and filtering. Something I will not teach you folks about since using and making steroids are illegal. You folks need to exercise and drinking Cell-Tech like the rest of the IFBB Pro's.
I just contacted the NABBA office and they have no record of you winning the NABBA US Show. Honestly they didn't have not any records to be exact as to the competitors or day of the event. I'm sure you won the show a few years ago but I cannot fathom as to why there is no records of it.
Could you post a picture of the trophy with the date or let me know where I can find the information needed???? Thanks
;D
http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26399
"I know I haven't been around lately, I do have a reason and I wanted to let everyone know what's going on
After great consideration over the last few month, I've decided to lace back up the boots as Venom Vince Versace and return to professional wrestling . Right now I'm training at the WWC facility getting the ring rust out and will be working their as well as doing some shows for American Pro Wrestling in Chesnee, SC.
So because of this, I will no longer be able to adequately run my business so I've decided to put the business up for sale along with part the remaining inventory of products as well as my current roster of clients I'm working with right now.
For information regarding purchase, please contact me via email or call toll free at 1-888-275-1323."
Sorry I have not been around lately but here's why.
I've recently been hired by an NFL football team as a trainer and I will no longer be able to run my business.
P.S. This also means I will definately not be competing in the Metrolina.
Vince, how tall are you? You think you'll be able to hang with the heavies? If you competed as a middleweight out of shape in 2004, you think you'll be a ripped heaviweight now?? Venom Vince.
Vince, why did you really back out of the Metrolina?
You can't train heavy and diet while doing rehab on a neck injury, dum ass. I had no choice but to back out
You can't train heavy and diet while doing rehab on a neck injury, dum ass. I had no choice but to back out
I'm confused. You said you weren't going to be able to prep for the show due to this new job. Had the car accident already occured?
After the morning show, I went to Friday's and had a big steak and some potatoes to get jacked back up. The night show, I did look much better and I got the crowd pumped up when I did my routine at the night show.
You dunce cnut. You looked like bottled shit at the night show too:
Thanks for distorting the arms in the pictures. I have the actual photo but it really won't make a difference in a few days
I got on stage and took my medicine like a man. After the morning show, I went to Friday's and had a big steak and some potatoes to get jacked back up. The night show, I did look much better and I got the crowd pumped up when I did my routine at the night show.
i don't know , i've never done this...but is it possible to carb up 17 lbs worth in one day?
Thanks for distorting the arms in the pictures. I have the actual photo but it really won't make a difference in a few days
Dipshit. Here's the thread from Mayhem where the pic came from. No distorting at all. You just Vince Goodrowned yourself:
http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21848&page=2&pp=20 (http://www.musclemayhem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21848&page=2&pp=20)
Last1281, I know you have the same pic. Can you post it to prove that Vince is lying again?
You sure showed 'em ::)
That picture was morphed as well. Its not the original one neither.
i'm IP banned from mayhem, so i don't know what thread it is.
let me see if i have anything in the "archives".
Throw that racist picture away, Hitler
This is the same thread Power Rod where Massive G exposed you as being Last1821.... ;D
That picture was morphed as well. Its not the original one neither.
I actually remember that thread. I destroyed the Mayhem Pound, got Deltimissus banned from the board, ran off Zach_G 85 after getting fudge-packing jokes, took out Tampa, Owned Chad Mower. Eventually the thread just self-destructed. Brings back good memories.
I'm problably the only person who's owned an entire discussion board in one big swat.
All I did was simply tell Massive G to keep the thread running and not delete it because I knew that once they got tired of bashing me that they would all turn on themselves. I simply put two post up to strike the match and sat back and watched the whole thing unfold laughing my ass off. I told Massive what was going to happen and that was that. Sometimes its better to duck an opponent when he's swinging and let him wear himself out.
Moral: Sometimes keeping your mouth shut has its benefits. I shut up and the rest was fucked up..... ;D
I'm going to bed, sorry
Have a good night....Last1821
Vince are you doing any of these shows in NC?
September - Mountaineer - National Qualifier
October 21 - Carolina Clash
November 4th - Elite Muscle Classic - National Qualifier
Vince are you doing any of these shows in NC?
September - Mountaineer - National Qualifier
Jealousy.
It is jealousy and I think people are particularly jealous of Jack because he is educated and has a great job. The haters don't have their usual trump cards because Jack is smarter, richer and has a better physique than them.
Rhino = very cool. Vince = fool.
Rhino Renegades 4 Lyfe!
I'd say his best chance is probably the Mountaineer... It's lost some of it's steam since the Metrolina became a qualifier... I don't know what a fair wager could be because there is no telling how many competitors are going to be in a certain class. Novice or Junior are also going to be the safest route. If he goes open it's just gonna be ugly. Sorry Vince, nothing personal but giving my opinion on your physique from what I have seen it's really quite atrocious (sp). I've been to literally 100's of shows, regional, state, Pro Qualifiers and IFBB shows and you really strike me as one of the many guys that show up and the audience just wonders what the hell was this guy thinking. From the pics of you dieted down I didn't see any muscle at all. I mean, literally, none. I have no idea what your diet or training regimen is but it's obviously not working. When it comes to bodybuiliding Vince the proof is in the pudding. You can't hide behind anything. Your body speaks for itself and you really need to go back to the drawing board and concentrate on building muscle before you attempt to diet down for a show.
I like that, we should put it on a shirt, with the team rhino clothing line.
You don't have the fucking balls to put that on a T-Shirt
Has anyone on this board ever met Vince in person? Just curious to know. Sometimes people on here behave much differently than they would in person. I guess no matter how much time goes by, I can't believe how aggressive he is towards pros and anyone else that "calls him out". I also can't believe he posts pics like that and then tells stories like he does to "explain them"
By the way a 17 pound carb up is humanly impossible unless you weigh about 1000 lbs or so.
You can tell a lot from a person on the phone. Anyone heard the Vince answering machine/meltd0wn tapes? Whew....
Vince Goodrun couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper sack, he's 150lbs.
Careful Sarcasm, Vince is a cage fighter and could knock you into next week AHAHAHHAH!!!! What a deluded jizz guzzler?!!the only cage vince has been in is the bondage cage at the local gay S&M club with a ball gag in his mouth and assless chaps on.
Seriously though, has ANYONE on the board ever met the guy? I mean I know guys at my gym that know him by name and think he is an absolute fool for what he does here. Getbig is more popular than one might think. I was just wondering how it is, (if he is like this in person of course) this man gets through life daily without pissing someone off to the point of homicide.
the only cage vince has been in is the bondage cage at the local gay S&M club with a ball gag in his mouth and assless chaps on.
I work with a lot of ppl from the boards. I get on the phone with Ron and I'm not the 240 prick persona, I'm asking him for parenting advice. I get on the phone with other guys and I'm picking their brains for investment advice and they're asking me about the SW FL real estate market. It's pretty easy to turn off your internet persona - your escape from everyday work - and get down to business. Anyone who has worked with me will probably attest to this- nothing like 240 on the phone or in person.
However, I don't think Vince has that ability. I think the illusions of competition grandeur extend to real life. When he talked about how many tanning applications he did before his show, or how hard his diet was, etc. Or the monthly scams (i'm quitting my job and selling my company and I work for the Cardinals and I bring gospel from the IFBB and blah blah...) Vince in dead serious, and believes this stuff. I'm thinking that is Vince in real life, too.
Did you take his picture?hahaha, this coming from a "guy" who MAKES A LIVING taking pictures of gay men oiled up in thongs, gay as the day is long.
I'd say his best chance is probably the Mountaineer... It's lost some of it's steam since the Metrolina became a qualifier... I don't know what a fair wager could be because there is no telling how many competitors are going to be in a certain class. Novice or Junior are also going to be the safest route. If he goes open it's just gonna be ugly. Sorry Vince, nothing personal but giving my opinion on your physique from what I have seen it's really quite atrocious (sp). I've been to literally 100's of shows, regional, state, Pro Qualifiers and IFBB shows and you really strike me as one of the many guys that show up and the audience just wonders what the hell was this guy thinking. From the pics of you dieted down I didn't see any muscle at all. I mean, literally, none. I have no idea what your diet or training regimen is but it's obviously not working. When it comes to bodybuiliding Vince the proof is in the pudding. You can't hide behind anything. Your body speaks for itself and you really need to go back to the drawing board and concentrate on building muscle before you attempt to diet down for a show.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. If you are correct, I have to admire a man that can get this far behaving like that. It would seem his life expectancy in public would have to be about 15 minutes behaving the way he does. ;D
Vince does his labor pool jobs, in which he is surrounded by the unskilled, ex-cons and mentally handicapped people, and possibly illegals. Not flaming, but this is the truth about Labor Pool/Manpower. At this job, ppl probably buy that Vince is a Bber and nutritional guru.
Vince sells supplements at flea markets on weekends. If ppl think he's crazy, they can walk away form his table and avoid his corridor the next time.
Vince (sometimes) goes to the gym. There probably lies the most interaction which could lead to conflict. Imagine him pulling out his CSN, MFT credentials and telling a top local competitor about the "RIGHT" way to carb up or what baker's yeast products will outperform the guys test/deca cocktail. Begging for a black eye. I'm guessing that "car accident" alibi was another way to put "locker room advice gone terribly wrong".
Begging for a black eye.
hahaha, this coming from a "guy" who MAKES A LIVING taking pictures of gay men oiled up in thongs, gay as the day is long.
hahaha, this coming from a "guy" who MAKES A LIVING taking pictures of gay men oiled up in thongs, gay as the day is long.
Vince does his labor pool jobs, in which he is surrounded by the unskilled, ex-cons and mentally handicapped people, and possibly illegals. Not flaming, but this is the truth about Labor Pool/Manpower. At this job, ppl probably buy that Vince is a Bber and nutritional guru.
Vince sells supplements at flea markets on weekends. If ppl think he's crazy, they can walk away form his table and avoid his corridor the next time.
Vince (sometimes) goes to the gym. There probably lies the most interaction which could lead to conflict. Imagine him pulling out his CSN, MFT credentials and telling a top local competitor about the "RIGHT" way to carb up or what baker's yeast products will outperform the guys test/deca cocktail. Begging for a black eye. I'm guessing that "car accident" alibi was another way to put "locker room advice gone terribly wrong".
Now who's playing the race card?::)
Thanks for your advice and you are correct......in 2004 which is what you are basing your assessment on. At the time, I still was coming into my physique which is why I took an extra year off to build more muscle mass. The january picture isn't great but I wanted to show everyone how much size I put on arms which are actually my weak parts due to my quads and calves being much larger.
As far as whether it will be junior or open depends. If there isn't that many people in the junior division, I'll move to open. When I compete, I want to COMPETE, not get handed a trophy for showing up. But we'll see what happens. I will say that the person that will show up will not be the person in those infamous pictures. I'm going get the dues paid
A bit of advice. FInd out what contest has no one is your class. The judges will probably still give you third even if you are the only competitor but at least you tell everyone you took a top 3. Also, yu should try maybe entering a local Special Olympic competition. They have weightlifting now and maybe you can crack the top five in that, but taking into account there are only 5 guys in your class.
And please tell us you aren't spending your social security check on roids. They are not helping. Invest your money into Bee farms or something. BB, ain't your bag. Just like mine isn't promoting ab machines. I realize it and you need to realize BB isn't your bag.
hahaha, this coming from a "guy" who MAKES A LIVING taking pictures of gay men oiled up in thongs, gay as the day is long.
Just look at Dorian .
Say what you want about my business but its been going strong since 2001 and gets better each year. Tell me how your business is doing after 5 years 240...
At least I'm not some I'm not a fat ass powerdrinker/ lifter like yourself. I have the goods to do well in bodybuilding. Maybe not the best genetics but hard training overcomes all. Just look at Dorian .
"I'm not some I'm not a", hahaha, monster redundancy.
At least I'm not some I'm not a fat ass powerdrinker/ lifter like yourself. I have the goods to do well in bodybuilding. Maybe not the best genetics but hard training overcomes all. Just look at Dorian .
"I'm not some I'm not a", hahaha, monster redundancy.
Pointless post ::)
Meaningless pointing out of a pointless post.
He used his full name: Rhinoceros.
Ditto ;D
mosnter reply to a pointless post
Vince, my post wasn't about your business, it was about you, man.
And your labor pool days (please show me what labor pool pays several hundred dollars per day to do parking lot event help).
I've been in business 6 months... still very new to it ya know. After 5 years, I don't know what I'll be doing. Hopefully I'll be managing a small team of like-minded, profitsharing individuals as we grow our media/promotional/web presence company. Anyone looking for a job? ;)
That's right, only 6 months. You only have book knowledge and no real word experience. You'll find that out the hard way I suppose.
yeah Rob you need to get some real world knowledge like Vince has so call Labor Ready and get a couple of day labor jobs cleaning some abandoned lots with a bunch of Mexicans and bruthas and then buy a couple of bottles of centrum vitamins and sell them at a flea market like 'ol Vince.
That's right, only 6 months. You only have book knowledge and no real word experience. You'll find that out the hard way I suppose.
yeah Rob you need to get some real world knowledge like Vince has so call Labor Ready and get a couple of day labor jobs cleaning some abandoned lots with a bunch of Mexicans and bruthas and then buy a couple of bottles of centrum vitamins and sell them at a flea market like 'ol Vince.
I'm up to learn about the things I don't know in order to compete more effectively. Yes, I have only been in business full time for 6 or 7 months now. But before that, i had corp proj mgmt experience, i had 6 years in the classroom as a teacher, and 5 running a university website.
Vince, if I can learn for you, speak on it. Tell us what you have learned in the 5 years you've been in business that us book guys wouldn't know. thanks!
Vince, I appreciate your advice. And I continually re-evaluate my business model and adjust my skillset to meet when I ascertain to be future client demand based on current trends.
www.300website.com is my niche business, Vince. It's $300 for a complete site, usually built in less than a week, and I operate with zero overhead. Three computers at one big desk/recliner. One big backup server. One bookshelf.
Vince, there are 2 ways to make profit: reduce inputs, or increase outputs. A 800 number, multiple ecomm systems, multiple niches, ann hurt the numbers right now. I have no overhead- why jack that up? When I need to, I will. But I have a 2 week waiting list right now and I don't spend a penny on advertising.
And I know ya hate the MBA, man... but it's a HUGE advantage in the market. I don't build pretty artsy sites. I build sites to increase my clients' bottom lines. I ask them their market, their competitors, their niche, and I help them compete. For $300, they get a website, but also all the wisdom thye'd like from an MBA who spends all day working with small businesses.
I stay in the fitness industry cause I know it, man. My clients get a sweet site fast and thye get it cheap. :)
I would be more impressed if you had a doctorate ;D
For starters you need to redo your website and not showcase just fitness related sites you've done. You need to market to other venues as well so put some of the other non-fitness related sites up as well. Also get rid of the "specializes in fitness websites". It's pretty much telling everyone that if you're not in the fitness business, then find someone else. You have to be the Jack of all Trades and not just one. If you visit my website, you can get Kynoselen and Vasapro Ephedrine but you can also purchase senior citizen products like garlic tablets and Norweigen Cod Liver Oil.
Also, if you're going to run a business, how about listing a toll-free number for people to contact you. You're losing a lot of money right now not having one. Some people like to hear a human voice before making a purchase. My toll free number routes my customers to my personal cell in which I can take an order even when I'm out on the road. Very cheap to do, pal
Also, your e-commerce section needs to service more than just Paypal. Most business such as mine uses an actual merchant account and does not rely on Paypal. You need to add merchant account e-commerce solution and if you already do, then give a description. If you don't have it, then a small investment in developer ecommerce software is all you need and that doesn't cost much. Lift Studios uses Cubecart for his clients which gives his clients maximum flexability. The design matrix is very easy to do as well. I use Cubecart as well and people can pay directly or use paypal as well. I also maintain the good old fashioned postal order forms as well.
Finally, get rid of the ad for selling your laptop computer. Looks very cheesy and no-one give a shit if it was designed by an MBA. If you want to sell it, then put it on Ebay.
I could go on but mainly you need more flexability in your services especially since this is the only work you do now.
man, you couldn't pay me to go back to school.
Vince, I appreciate your advice. And I continually re-evaluate my business model and adjust my skillset to meet when I ascertain to be future client demand based on current trends.
www.300website.com is my niche business, Vince. It's $300 for a complete site, usually built in less than a week, and I operate with zero overhead. Three computers at one big desk/recliner. One big backup server. One bookshelf.
Vince, there are 2 ways to make profit: reduce inputs, or increase outputs. A 800 number, multiple ecomm systems, multiple niches, ann hurt the numbers right now. I have no overhead- why jack that up? When I need to, I will. But I have a 2 week waiting list right now and I don't spend a penny on advertising.
And I know ya hate the MBA, man... but it's a HUGE advantage in the market. I don't build pretty artsy sites. I build sites to increase my clients' bottom lines. I ask them their market, their competitors, their niche, and I help them compete. For $300, they get a website, but also all the wisdom thye'd like from an MBA who spends all day working with small businesses.
I stay in the fitness industry cause I know it, man. My clients get a sweet site fast and thye get it cheap. :)
Take it from someone who's been running his home business for over 5 years. You have to stay ahead of the game or you'll fall behind which is what you're doing right now. Having a niche is ok but eventually someone will come along with a 200website.com.
I'll outsource all my work to them and make $100 per sale :P
And to add, you still have to watch out for your competition such as Lift Studios who has a much more powerful resume, longer list of clients, and more experience. What makes your business better than his??? ???
100 dollars is 200 dollars less than 300. And then you would be respnsible for any screwups
My entire sites cost 1/5 of his starter price, I got MSNBC on board the Titus site in a week, Rhino just got signed with a new supp company/MD/MMag shoot, my industry client list is actually longer that LIFT's, and if you really wanna compare the quality of work, I'm pretttty damn close ;)
I don't know his resume, but if he has his MBA, MCP/A+/Net+ certs, AS in networking, and taught computers for several years from grades k to adult, and then some, he's got me beat.
Anyway Vince, I like Lift. Why you want to bring his name up? We serve different markets.
1) 300 (my price) - 200 (fictional company's cost) = 100 profit. And I was joking. And my clients get unlimited revisions until their site is perfect. So there are no screwups :)
These companies are not fictional. I'll show you tommorow
Both of you claim to be the specialist in fitness websites. But which one of you are better
I'll outsource all my work to them and make $100 per sale :P
ahahahahhaha holly fuk melvince are you saying you are in the same boat as dozer when it comes to genetics ? hahahaha this shit is gold lol
I have the goods to do well in bodybuilding. Maybe not the best genetics but hard training overcomes all. Just look at Dorian .
ahahahahhaha holly fuk melvince are you saying you are in the same boat as dozer when it comes to genetics ? hahahaha this shit is gold lolThe same genetic boat as the spider Dozer step on...I'm thinking about getting a Goliath Tarantula and naming it Melvin Venom Vince (full name). Melvin can call him junior.