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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: 240 is Back on June 02, 2006, 02:36:51 PM
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Okay, we heard for months about how no company is going to give a cent to the PDI for the NOC. Well, the first list of sponsors is out, and it's legit. The show isn't going to go belly-up.
Ads? Mid-June, it'll be in at least 3 of the major fitness/BBing magazines. 1000+ flyers just went out.
Cancelled shows? Um, hello, Toronto? Kettle, meet pot.
Ticket sales? I can't confirm anything, but from what Keith/onlyme said, they've already outsold Colorado. At any rate, with only 1500 tickets to sell, and this much buzz/interest about the inaugural show, I don't think any logical person could suggest they won't sell a ton of tickets or likely sell out.
I know the athlete list is not yet complete, but guys are locked into contracts and still competing, so declaring PDI early would be placing suicide. And the guys who are there are interesting, exciting, and there are no GH guts to be found.
Point is.. Haters/doubters, Can you give us a new list of reasons why the PDI will fail? Your original list is falling to pieces, and the thought of competing in the PDI is suddenly looking more and more exciting for guys who never would have considered it months ago. The usual PDI bashers (you know who you 4 are!) have been very quiet lately ;) Getting your resumes ready?
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It will fail because the talent pool will not be richer than the IFBB , perhaps it would be at some point and time but it wont survive that grace period , bodybuilding hasn't really grown in the past 20 years , this past years Olympia has 6K max fans ? Haney had that back in 86 , what little fan base is out thier in my opinion may not want to gamble thier loyality on an unknown brand , the PDI may survive and if it does it will be bt word of mouth and I would like to see something different , but I don't forsee them matching the IFBB in quality , of course I could be very wrong.
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IFBB talent pool LOL
TALENT POOL ?
LOL
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IFBB talent pool LOL
TALENT POOL ?
LOL
Its a little higher quality than what PDI has right now .
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Its a little higher quality than what PDI has right now .
Nah the PDI has me who does the IFBB have.They have thier ass kissing robots YES SIR NO SIR.
I sent the IFBB a nice email explaining my reasons to go to PDI and everything and did i ever get a response NO.Typical IFBB.If i can find my letter in old mail i will post it for you all to see i have nothing against the IFBB.Just wanted a change.
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Lee tells it like it is..... Fuck the IFBB!!!!!!! I hope that shitter sinks faster than Betty Weiders undies in 1971
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Belly up inside of
three two years...
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Nah the PDI has me who does the IFBB have.They have thier ass kissing robots YES SIR NO SIR.
I sent the IFBB a nice email explaining my reasons to go to PDI and everything and did i ever get a response NO.Typical IFBB.If i can find my letter in old mail i will post it for you all to see i have nothing against the IFBB.Just wanted a change.
Lee you're the best thing the PDI has , you're top of the foodchain , but chances of them scoring a bunch more caliber atheletes like you are slim , they may get another top name but you're as good as it gets for the PDI and to be honest I would like an alterative , I don't think you can be the greatest bodybuilder in the world with a distended gut , but in all reality I think the PDI has a very rough road ahead !!
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Nah the PDI has me who does the IFBB have.They have thier ass kissing robots YES SIR NO SIR.
I sent the IFBB a nice email explaining my reasons to go to PDI and everything and did i ever get a response NO.Typical IFBB.If i can find my letter in old mail i will post it for you all to see i have nothing against the IFBB.Just wanted a change.
Are you going to cry about your gift placings at the PDI too?
You probably only went to the PDI hoping they will give you good placing cause you are their most known pro...
From wanting to retire to lunching a semi new career...hmm...want to be rememberd as the first "pdi mr.O"? Doubt that will happen even there.
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The PDI talent pool will only become better after this years Olympia.Why?It will all depend on Ronnie Coleman himself.If, after being given his 9th mr O title (if in less than stellar condition),he states he will continue his "hobby" of yearly taking the O title, several of the O competitors will say to themselves "F&^K this" & go to the PDI ;).
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Lee you're the best thing the PDI has , you're top of the foodchain , but chances of them scoring a bunch more caliber atheletes like you are slim , they may get another top name but you're as good as it gets for the PDI and to be honest I would like an alterative , I don't think you can be the greatest bodybuilder in the world with a distended gut , but in all reality I think the PDI has a very rough road ahead !!
gloom and doom
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Why can't both coexist? Like in auto racing, you have NASCAR, Formula 1, CART, NHRA, etc. So what's wrong with PDI, IFBB, WXYZ.....?
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Nah the PDI has me who does the IFBB have.They have thier ass kissing robots YES SIR NO SIR.
I sent the IFBB a nice email explaining my reasons to go to PDI and everything and did i ever get a response NO.Typical IFBB.If i can find my letter in old mail i will post it for you all to see i have nothing against the IFBB.Just wanted a change.
I hope you can find the letter - look hard... :)
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Other than them saying "Best wishes to you, Lee", I'm not sure what sort of response you would've expected.
Furthermore, who is the IFBB's official spokesperson anyway?
If R. Coleman is named the winner once again, perhaps Darrem Charles and Dave Henry might consider moving over.
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If you're a younger IFBB guy... say, a DHenry, a Branch, a Gustavo, a Melvin...
Do you look at the HISTORY of the Mr Olympia, and realize that as soon as King Ron retires, there will likely be another dynasty, (and his name will probably be Phil Heath)?
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Okay, we heard for months about how no company is going to give a cent to the PDI for the NOC. Well, the first list of sponsors is out, and it's legit. The show isn't going to go belly-up.
Ads? Mid-June, it'll be in at least 3 of the major fitness/BBing magazines. 1000+ flyers just went out.
Cancelled shows? Um, hello, Toronto? Kettle, meet pot.
Ticket sales? I can't confirm anything, but from what Keith/onlyme said, they've already outsold Colorado. At any rate, with only 1500 tickets to sell, and this much buzz/interest about the inaugural show, I don't think any logical person could suggest they won't sell a ton of tickets or likely sell out.
I know the athlete list is not yet complete, but guys are locked into contracts and still competing, so declaring PDI early would be placing suicide. And the guys who are there are interesting, exciting, and there are no GH guts to be found.
Point is.. Haters/doubters, Can you give us a new list of reasons why the PDI will fail? Your original list is falling to pieces, and the thought of competing in the PDI is suddenly looking more and more exciting for guys who never would have considered it months ago. The usual PDI bashers (you know who you 4 are!) have been very quiet lately ;) Getting your resumes ready?
I am pumped!!!!!!! Lets get it on!!!!!!! Bring it!!!!!! Finally they're will be more to talk about this fall than jay versus ronnie 10 and my denver broncos.
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If you're a younger IFBB guy... say, a DHenry, a Branch, a Gustavo, a Melvin...
Do you look at the HISTORY of the Mr Olympia, and realize that as soon as King Ron retires, there will likely be another dynasty, (and his name will probably be Phil Heath)?
Henry , Branch and Gustavo have all tased victory in the IFBB they've paid their dues they aren't going anywhere , they've arrived , it would be foolish to start over , never make a lateral move or a move backwards , Darrem & Melvin perhaps can be swayed but both seem content making a good living in the IFBB , PDI should court Richard Jones , he seems in limbo and the PDI criteria may suit his phsyique , and Jojo Ntiforo another guy with great potential , or Hamdullah Aykutlu , who was overalooked in the IFBB desite being among the most shredded guy ever !!
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I forgot about Jojo. You're right - he's definitely someone the PDI should be recruiting. I stand by my position that they should make a strong play for Troy Alves, too.
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Hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm, sounds so inviting, maybe a "Comeback" in this league would be a nice career change since Lee is the ONLY guy I'd have to prepare for to beat besides these guys ;D
Nahh, I want Lee on top of the World! :o
Enjoy bro! :-\
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Hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm, sounds so inviting, maybe a "Comeback" in this league would be a nice career change since Lee is the ONLY guy I'd have to prepare for to beat besides these guys ;D
Nahh, I want Lee on top of the World! :o
Enjoy bro! :-\
Shawn, any public comment on your posting that Vinny Galanti wasn't going to the PDI? You threw him under the bus posting that, and it wasn't true.
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240, email him and ask him, I dont want to post his email to me on the Net :-*
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240, email him and ask him, I dont want to post his email to me on the Net :-*
You didn't have to post the email - You posted the content. He made it very clear he's doing the NOC.
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wouldn't put all my eggs in the one basket held by Wayne D. either
don't forget he was Mr. IFBB for a long time
and like the IFBB/NPC there is a cheesiness that prevails
but I predict NOC will be a HUGE SUCCESS
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I like the comment about the IFBB talent pool. Hopefully that pool is deeper than 3 ft cause the pool is getting empty quick and it is weak. And as good as Lee is you guys are forgetting there are plenty of guys who have not yet been annouced and more coming all the time. Plus, Wayne does not recruit. He is allowing the competitors to call him and make the first initial contact. Richarf Jones was comtemplating coming to the PDI buthas decided to pursue his Masters which is about the smartest thign any bodybuilder has ever done. He does have the perfect physique to make the PDI popular and huge. But there are many others out their like him and they are coming to and thinking about the PDI first. Just wiat till you see and hear what I have planned to help. I guarantee the PDI will zoom zoom zoom with talent.
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Look I dont know why or even understand why people would wish for PDI to fail......then the reason you come up with is so stupid it shows who really knows the history of Bodybuilding. The IFBB had its doubters in its early start but with good hard work and the American dream it worked out....many of you keep bringing up the WFB well its was a great attempt. many of you who come up with these thoeries sound so stupid. makes me wounder if you ever passed History class....You talk about wayne demelia as if you know him but all you do is repeat crap you over herd or read. you have never done business with him you not an IFBB pro so what can you say.
I will tell you this.....when Shawn ray complained about Wayne he was fighting against an employee of a business that was being ran by Joe and Ben weider but you never herd of shawn taking his compliant and issues to the man who could more than likely nip it in the Butt.
Im through....I give my best wishes to the PDI and the IFBB and any other santin that wishes to become part of the american captilist sytem oh wait a minuet isnt the IFBB HQ in canada.....EHHHH. ::)
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Look I dont know why or even understand why people would wish for PDI to fail......then the reason you come up with is so stupid it shows who really knows the history of Bodybuilding. The IFBB had its doubters in its early start but with good hard work and the American dream it worked out....many of you keep bringing up the WFB well its was a great attempt. many of you who come up with these thoeries sound so stupid. makes me wounder if you ever passed History class....You talk about wayne demelia as if you know him but all you do is repeat crap you over herd or read. you have never done business with him you not an IFBB pro so what can you say.
I will tell you this.....when Shawn ray complained about Wayne he was fighting against an employee of a business that was being ran by Joe and Ben weider but you never herd of shawn taking his compliant and issues to the man who could more than likely nip it in the Butt.
Im through....I give my best wishes to the PDI and the IFBB and any other santin that wishes to become part of the american captilist sytem oh wait a minuet isnt the IFBB HQ in canada.....EHHHH. ::)
I agree that wishing that PDI will unfold, isn't making any sense. Competition will make it better for the athletes, hopefully.
There are persons associated with the IFBB critiscising the PDI, and doing it aggresively.
But the same can be said for both onlyme and 240.
They've been bashing IFBB endlessly for some time now. And so it happens that they are both involved in PDI. Which, in retrospect, makes their opinions on IFBB seem driven by an agenda.
That shit ain't cool either IMO.
I think it goes both ways. Keep both organisations straight.
But using negative PR, making your own organisation look better by trying to make the other look like shit, is only bringing down bodybuilding as a whole.
Concentrate on making your own product the best it can be. That will bring out supporters and avoid bad blood.
I have hopes for the PDI. And I think the IFBB is going to have to improve thanks to this new fed.
Whatever the outcome, this could mean a stop to the slow death of bodybuilding.
YIP
Zack
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I agree that wishing that PDI will unfold, isn't making any sense. Competition will make it better for the athletes, hopefully.
There are persons associated with the IFBB critiscising the PDI, and doing it aggresively.
But the same can be said for both onlyme and 240.
They've been bashing IFBB endlessly for some time now. And so it happens that they are both involved in PDI. Which, in retrospect, makes their opinions on IFBB seem driven by an agenda.
That shit ain't cool either IMO.
I think it goes both ways. Keep both organisations straight.
But using negative PR, making your own organisation look better by trying to make the other look like shit, is only bringing down bodybuilding as a whole.
Concentrate on making your own product the best it can be. That will bring out supporters and avoid bad blood.
I have hopes for the PDI. And I think the IFBB is going to have to improve thanks to this new fed.
Whatever the outcome, this could mean a stop to the slow death of bodybuilding.
YIP
Zack
I don't see where I am bashing the IFBB when all I do is state facts and things that have actually happened. The people on here who bash the PDI are bashing something that hasn't even happened yet and making it sound like a failure before it happens. What I am doing is supporting an organization that at least has some integrity and cares about BB and it's athletes. Where as the IFBB has done nothing to show they care at all. Sanctioning events does not show any kind of support to the athletes. Charging them a fee to be a member yet give nothing in return does not show support. Not willing to change obvious problems does not show support. It is a fact the IFBB has been going backwards. It is showing in there shows. I could care less about the IFBB but when people come on here and defend an organization with the background and image the IFBB does and how the IFBB is doing just about anything they can to stop Wayne and the progress of the PDI then I am helping the underdog.
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The IFBB had its doubters in its early start but with good hard work and the American dream it worked out...
And the ifbb is the only one that got rich out of it
not the athletes or promoters
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why would an investor in the IFBB want the PDI to fail if the IFBB engine is failing
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Okay, we heard for months about how no company is going to give a cent to the PDI for the NOC. Well, the first list of sponsors is out, and it's legit. The show isn't going to go belly-up.
Ads? Mid-June, it'll be in at least 3 of the major fitness/BBing magazines. 1000+ flyers just went out.
Cancelled shows? Um, hello, Toronto? Kettle, meet pot.
Ticket sales? I can't confirm anything, but from what Keith/onlyme said, they've already outsold Colorado. At any rate, with only 1500 tickets to sell, and this much buzz/interest about the inaugural show, I don't think any logical person could suggest they won't sell a ton of tickets or likely sell out.
I know the athlete list is not yet complete, but guys are locked into contracts and still competing, so declaring PDI early would be placing suicide. And the guys who are there are interesting, exciting, and there are no GH guts to be found.
Point is.. Haters/doubters, Can you give us a new list of reasons why the PDI will fail? Your original list is falling to pieces, and the thought of competing in the PDI is suddenly looking more and more exciting for guys who never would have considered it months ago. The usual PDI bashers (you know who you 4 are!) have been very quiet lately ;) Getting your resumes ready?
What's wrong with the old list as to why the PDI will fail ;D
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ok
http://ratemycameltoe.com/vote.php
that drop of putang juice is a nice touch
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What's wrong with the old list as to why the PDI will fail ;D
Let's add reading to the things you're bad at. I'm gonna need another spreadsheet.
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Belly up inside of three two years...
WBF went down in a little over two and this PDI side show does not have the type of money behind it that the WBF had.
I have a question, give me an example of the target group one would send a 1000 " Flyers " to.
The Beef.
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WBF went down in a little over two and this PDI side show does not have the type of money behind it that the WBF had.
I have a question, give me an example of the target group one would send a 1000 " Flyers " to.
The Beef.
How many years did Wayne have the Olympia. How many people go to the Olympia. Multiply that and the number is pretty damm good. Please the others over 20+ years.
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And the ifbb is the only one that got rich out of it
not the athletes or promoters
Bullshit!! Quite a few promoters did get rich--specifically DEMILIA!!
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Bullshit!! Quite a few promoters did get rich--specifically DEMILIA!!
Wayne made money cause he promoted the most shows and the biggest. I know exactly how much he made on the Olympia's. So, no one should worry about bounced checks at the events.
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Why can't both coexist? Like in auto racing, you have NASCAR, Formula 1, CART, NHRA, etc. So what's wrong with PDI, IFBB, WXYZ.....?
Because, unlike Autoracing, Bodybuilding is NOT POPULAR!!!!!
There are only a handful of us that actually care about this and it seems like less and less care at all.
If you asked your average 18 to 25 year old male 10 or 20 years ago to name some bodybuilders, they could easily Arnold, Franco, Lou, Dorian, Shawn, Flex maybe even Kevin Levrone.
Nobody cares anymore, that is why if they split the fan base they (the IFBB) thinks that both entities will fail in the long run.
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Because, unlike Autoracing, Bodybuilding is NOT POPULAR!!!!!
absolutely... it seems like BBing gets less popular by the month
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Goatboy, Im with you there son.
My dayz of eating Chicken Breasts and Dry Potato's are over.
I'm into changing diapers and eating baby food along with a few other not so Lean snacks! ;D
Did someone say, "PIZZA, PIZZA?" :-*
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Cute baby.