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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Palpatine Q on June 09, 2006, 08:51:52 PM
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How many guys here adhere to a strict training philosophy? I don't because IMO the human body adapts to stressors placed upon it. If you train like clockwork and stick to the same training style you will stagnate. AS far as training styles mine is switch it up constantly, but always commit yourself 100% mentally. The great Shawn Ray once said "sometimes I don't even know what I'm going to train on a given day inthe gym" and he managed to do okay. I think most trainers adhere to a strict protocol as a kind of crutch, "If I do XYZ every week I'll get big" which is patently false. The real secret to developing a great physique(like mine) is learning your bodies kineseology and biomechanics. Learn what works for your own body, invent your own exercises. Bodybuilding is a purely individual pursuit. One size does not fit all. Don't be a pod, use your brain
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All I know is that unless your a powerlifter..HIT is a crock of crap!
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What!!??! no.. my life's over, I'm going to go jump off a bridge...
all jokes aside, Lee Priest apparently trains in the same 'let your body decide what's best for it' manner.
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It's all about genetics and eating. Muscle stimulation is easy.
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It's all about genetics and eating. Muscle stimulation is easy.
now if you only learned how to stimulate a woman, you fruitcake.
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I do my own damn training protocol. I rarely deviate from it, besides occasionally changing an exercises here and there.
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I do my own damn training protocol. I rarely deviate from it, besides occasionally changing an exercises here and there.
i thought your protocol consisted of going down to the local ymca and striking up conversations with old naked men in the locker room.
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How many guys here adhere to a strict training philosophy? I don't because IMO the human body adapts to stressors placed upon it. If you train like clockwork and stick to the same training style you will stagnate. AS far as training styles mine is switch it up constantly, but always commit yourself 100% mentally. The great Shawn Ray once said "sometimes I don't even know what I'm going to train on a given day inthe gym" and he managed to do okay. I think most trainers adhere to a strict protocol as a kind of crutch, "If I do XYZ every week I'll get big" which is patently false. The real secret to developing a great physique(like mine) is learning your bodies kineseology and biomechanics. Learn what works for your own body, invent your own exercises. Bodybuilding is a purely individual pursuit. One size does not fit all. Don't be a pod, use your brain
Strict training does work with each bodypart equally trained, i disagree with the philosphy of training on instinct.Like Dorian said if i train by instinct i would be down the pub.
If a strict training method is not working for you.Look at Diet and Sleep.I know by experience if you train by instinct you will probaly lag in some bodyparts.
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It's all about genetics and eating. Muscle stimulation is easy.
YEsyes Bast So few people get how simple it really is.
Just a few a the myths that retards believe:
Higher reps are for definition.
You can't build big legs without squats
1.5 grams of protien per lb of lean body mass.
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YEsyes Bast So few people get how simple it really is.
Just a few a the myths that retards believe:
Higher reps are for definition.
You can't build big legs without squats
1.5 grams of protien per lb of lean body mass.
Yes Groink Yes.
Also glutamine, carnitine, shitine, etc all these gay herbs (amino acids for you nutrition nazis) that 'bodybuilders' take don't do shit.
Post workout simple carbs don't do shit.
others that I don't want to get into because I don't want to give away my nutritional secrets. They'll knock everyone's socks off. They're not ready for that yet!
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It's all about genetics and eating. Muscle stimulation is easy.
Yes, and you would know because you're so big and strong. ::)
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Yes Groink Yes.
Also glutamine, carnitine, shitine, etc all these gay herbs (amino acids for you nutrition nazis) that 'bodybuilders' take don't do shit.
Post workout simple carbs don't do shit.
others that I don't want to get into because I don't want to give away my nutritional secrets. They'll knock everyone's socks off. They're not ready for that yet!
I don't like to give away secrets either. fvck everybody....figure it out for yourself. I always go to the gym off peak so less people can see my innovative exercises. n1ggers are constantly biting my rhymes. I am on 3 Vicodins right now.
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Yes, and you would know because you're so big and strong. ::)
Bast has numerous photos up. he's got a very good build. Starfish licker.
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Yes, and you would know because you're so big and strong. ::)
I'm not about being a big gay musclebear like you, Brian.
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Bast has numerous photos up. he's got a very good build. Starfish licker.
hahah yes, Brian has a monster fear of posting pictures due to obesity issues.
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If that's him in his avatar then he looks like one bloated ugly guy and I'd be looking down in photos too if I were him! :-X
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I think it partially depends on where you are in your years/experience of training. A newbie should not rely on feel, but more strictly follow a program and use compound movements (IE:deadlift, squat, etc...) and strive to get form down. As someone progresses in experience they will tend to learn what is working for them and adjust accordingly.
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you have to be progressive. i think the safest way is to be progressive in VOLUME not pounds because form gets more and more sloppy the more pounds you use...
so if your used to doing 10 sets for chest try doing 20 and keep upping it. youll spend more time in the gym but your physique will improve
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you have to be progressive. i think the safest way is to be progressive in VOLUME not pounds because form gets more and more sloppy the more pounds you use...
so if your used to doing 10 sets for chest try doing 20 and keep upping it. youll spend more time in the gym but your physique will improve
There is no reason for form to get sloppy, you just need to make sure you can handle the weight you are using. I strongly disagree with increasing volume while sacrificing weight.
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There is no reason for form to get sloppy, you just need to make sure you can handle the weight you are using. I strongly disagree with increasing volume while sacrificing weight.
Form should not be sarcrificed while training DC so I agree with you. The purpose of DC is to utilize progressive resistance by always beating your previous best on a particular excercise, it might only be 5lbs or 2.5lbs or maybe 2 reps with the same weight but you are always progressing. Because of the way reps are performed, nice controlled negatives and explosive positives form should really never waver.
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There is no reason for form to get sloppy, you just need to make sure you can handle the weight you are using. I strongly disagree with increasing volume while sacrificing weight.
well its all in how you interpret form i guess.. let me explain
alot of people will just use more momentum to lift more weight while this is good for powerlifting. i dont think increasing speed is what we want that means LESS time undertension so in reality your not lifting as MUCH but you are lifting more weight but for not as LONG.
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well its all in how you interpret form i guess.. let me explain
alot of people will just use more momentum to lift more weight while this is good for powerlifting. i dont think increasing speed is what we want that means LESS time undertension so in reality your not lifting as MUCH but you are lifting more weight but for not as LONG.
welllll.....in DC you lower the weight slowly accentuating the negative portion of the rep, thus keeping the muscle under tension longer you then explode up, which is kida like compensatory exceleration training that was a big thing in the early 90's, I don't know if this is what that portion of DC is based on but this is what it reminds me of. Anyway you accelerate up and again slow controlled negative then at the end of the set you utilize a static hold so you are keeping the muscle under stress for quite a long period of time. Reaching failure is the key, once musculare failure is reached there are studies that show that it is pointless to continue. DC allows you to reach total musculare failure.
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Did you guys know that Dante invented chinups and stretching?
And 25 lb dumbells?
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Seriously DC is a good system, they are all good systems I'm just against getting married to one method. AS far as upping volume I would not do really high volume unless I was on something. You won't recuperate.
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How many guys here adhere to a strict training philosophy? I don't because IMO the human body adapts to stressors placed upon it. If you train like clockwork and stick to the same training style you will stagnate. AS far as training styles mine is switch it up constantly, but always commit yourself 100% mentally. The great Shawn Ray once said "sometimes I don't even know what I'm going to train on a given day inthe gym" and he managed to do okay. I think most trainers adhere to a strict protocol as a kind of crutch, "If I do XYZ every week I'll get big" which is patently false. The real secret to developing a great physique(like mine) is learning your bodies kineseology and biomechanics. Learn what works for your own body, invent your own exercises. Bodybuilding is a purely individual pursuit. One size does not fit all. Don't be a pod, use your brain
Post your picture and show us what a great physique you've attained, since you've obviously tried all of these things and they haven't worked, let's see what REALLY works.
Because if you can't back it up with photos, you're just blowing hot air.
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Because if you can't back it up with photos, you're just blowing hot air.
Better than blowing teh cock, like you.
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Post your picture and show us what a great physique you've attained, since you've obviously tried all of these things and they haven't worked, let's see what REALLY works.
Because if you can't back it up with photos, you're just blowing hot air.
I never said they don't work. I'm saying your body will adapt over time and you will stagnate. Mike Mattarazzo said it best "Everything works, but nothing works forever". As far as me posting a pic, maybe,maybe not. I feel no great urge to prove i am for real
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I never said they don't work. I'm saying your body will adapt over time and you will stagnate. Mike Mattarazzo said it best "Everything works, but nothing works forever". As far as me posting a pic, maybe,maybe not. I feel no great urge to prove i am for real
well you actually cycle dc training, you blast..all out for a few months then when you start to stagnate you do a cruise which is more of a traditional training time, you might do higher volume or concentrate on a weak area then when you are ready you blast away again so you should be fresh the next time you blast.
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Yeah, we know it all, don't we guys!
Screw all those people. We know what works! That's why each and every one of us is either a pro bodybuilder, a top powerlifter, or world renowned strongman.
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I don't know about other High Intensity methods but I was able to bring up a weak point (my back) and turn it into a strong point by performing super-slow chins on the assisted chin machine over a period of a year. The added bonus was my biceps also improved quite a bit, and I've been training over 15 years, so that's quite an accomplishment.
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I have to agree however i'll refrain from calling training methods BS except for that "ball" training thats popped up in the last few years, that stuff is complete BS.DC training,HIT, etc may all have their pros but there is nothing amazingly new w/any "new" training methods of the last few years.I worked out for a year or 2 before ever reading a bb'ing mag yet as anyone else may have also done was using principles of training that I didn't know were even so called principles (drop sets, up & down the rack, pre exhaust,heavy duty,volume work etc.).Just like Weider & the Weider principles.Any person that trains will sooner or later use these so called Weider Principles by instinct to get more from their workouts w/o even knowing that they are referred to that way .