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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: MorningPoop on July 08, 2006, 09:07:19 PM
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TITO ORTIZ BEAT SHAMROCK IN THE FIRST ROUND AFTER BODYSLAMMING HIM AND POUNDING HIM WITH SOME ELBOWS THE REF STOPPED IT.
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hahahaha
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If Shamrock doesn't retire now, I have zero respect for him....
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He needs the money.
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The fight was stopped to early, but it looked like he was about to take a beating.
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the fight was stopped way too early but Tito would have won
this ppv sucked donkey balls
feels like i just flushed 40 bucks down the toilet
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i agree dana white is getting on my nerves, i cant wait to see wanderla (sp) beat the shit out of chuck
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Chuck is going to win that fight
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no chance. just my thoughts i just think it would make dana look like an ass if some pride guy came in and beat his poster boy champ
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It seems like everytime I turn on Spike Tv anymore, someone is beating Ken Shamrock's ass hahaha.
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i like both guys - chuck and wandy - somebody will get knocked out for sure
just sit back and enjoy it
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silva will make chuck his bitch period
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yes, chuck is a real pussy ::)
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TITO DESTROYED Shamrock once again... I'm not sure if Shammy even landed any shots on Tito, :57 seconds of round one ROFL... good ole ground n pound, Tito's elbows were absolutely vicious, he said afterwards he was hitting Shamrock so hard he thought he chipped one of his elbows, LOL.
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yes, chuck is a real pussy ::)
i never said chuck was a pussy I'm just saying if he had one it would make things easier when he gets fucked by Silva ;D
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The fight was stopped to early, but it looked like he was about to take a beating.
About to take a beating? He got body slammed and then he took five or six unobstructed Ortiz elbows to the dome. If that ain't a beating I don'tknow what is. If the ref didn't stop it Shamrock might have ended up a vegetable. Well, more of a vegetable anyway.
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this ppv sucked donkey balls
feels like i just flushed 40 bucks down the toilet
NEVER order UFC. Thats been my view since 2003
PRIDEFC is the only event I would consider ordering
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GojZtWxw2-4&search=ufc%2061 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GojZtWxw2-4&search=ufc%2061)
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ken seemed to go completely limp from the first elbow, but i dont think he was in any worse danger than Forrest and he was allowed to continue. Im not saying he would have won it from there, but Herb stepped in too early again. I understand why he did it, but let it go another 5 seconds Herb!
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I understand why he did it, but let it go another 5 seconds Herb!
With the UFC's history with various politicians, most notably John McCain, who want to have the sport banned, the last thing the UFC needs is for someone to get seriously hurt or worse, especially now with the sport on the rise.
I'll pretty sure that the refs are told to stop a fight if they have any doubts.
That said, I still think the stoppage was a good one. Ken wasn't defending with either his arms or, more importantly, his legs. If you watch the fight again, you'll notice that Ken's legs were spread wide open. That's not an mma guard. That's a guy getting f*cked mma style.
Ken put on a nice show once the fight was over, but I think if you gave him some truth serum, he'd tell you he was glad it was stopped.
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I agree with the last post but it wouldn't have changed the outcome one bit, Tito absolutely dominated Shamrock, once those elbows started dropping down it was good night.
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i had to work last night and missed the fight. thanx for posting it here.
i would love to see the interviews after the fight...anybody have those?
glad tito kicked his ass
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The fight was horrible.
It was just a money making scheme IMO. I don't believe Tito and Ken really hate eachother. The exaggerated drama, etc; it was one last paycheck for Shamrock.
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Yeah, all that bullshit on the Ultimate Fighter Show looked staged to me.
After seeing that clip, I do believe the ref stopped it a hair too fast.
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Yeah, all that bullshit on the Ultimate Fighter Show looked staged to me.
After seeing that clip, I do believe the ref stopped it a hair too fast.
but better to stop it a hair to soon rather than a hair to late
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Not in a high profile fight like that.
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Not in a high profile fight like that.
so you think because its a high profile fight he should have waited a second longer and possibly giving shamrock serious brain damage??
IMO...... the higher ups are still trying to deflect the claims that its a barbaric sport. because it was a high profile fight means lots of people are watching.they dont want someone seriously hurt infront of this big audience which would give the nay-sayers more ammo.
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The sport is already too big now.
It's on Spike 24 hours a day.
Besides, wasn't Ken able to give an interview after it was over?
I believe someone mentioned that.
Must no have been hurt too bad.
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The sport is already too big now.
It's on Spike 24 hours a day.
Besides, wasn't Ken able to give an interview after it was over?
I believe someone mentioned that.
Must no have been hurt too bad.
yes, thanx to the ref
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The sport is already too big now.
How exactly is the sport too big when barely a handful of fighters are making a living in MMA?
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ken's got a good chin. he can take up to 30-35 elbows before anything breaks. so the ref stopped it about 30 elbows too early.
should'be been john mccarthy instead.
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The stoppage was inconsequential. Ken can't beat Tito period. The guy is too old for the sport.
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i had to work last night and missed the fight. thanx for posting it here.
i would love to see the interviews after the fight...anybody have those?
glad tito kicked his ass
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.Detail&gid=2919 (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.Detail&gid=2919)
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http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.Detail&gid=2919 (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.Detail&gid=2919)
thanx. would have been nice to hear what ken had to say though
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Ken stormed off like a biotch after the fight and didn't give a post-fight interview...the fight was probably stopped a little early, but I think we all know what would have happened if Herb Dean let it go a little longer....though it would have been nice to see a little more blood :)
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Stop was too early for a fight that was so hyped up! Shamrock or anybody can take more shots then that, the last 3 were not even on his head but his chest and close to neck, regardless if tito would have probably won anyway. Its the man's last fight and a fight he wanted badly they didn't even let the fight happen. After that weak ass shit stop, I think I am going to lean more into the pride fighting, they are fucking hardcore. And yes silva is going to murder chuck, if chuck gets smart and take the fight to the ground, he might actually have a chance, but I doubt he will do that.
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Pride fighters put the UFC stable to shame.
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Stop was too early for a fight that was so hyped up! Shamrock or anybody can take more shots then that, the last 3 were not even on his head but his chest and close to neck, regardless if tito would have probably won anyway. Its the man's last fight and a fight he wanted badly they didn't even let the fight happen. After that weak ass shit stop, I think I am going to lean more into the pride fighting, they are fucking hardcore. And yes silva is going to murder chuck, if chuck gets smart and take the fight to the ground, he might actually have a chance, but I doubt he will do that.
I'm with you bro! I had a chance to meet Dana White and become somewhat friends with him but I gotta say that Pride has way more action! I have been a one sided ufc fan but now i'm getting into Pride! If Dana wants to get real he'll need to step up the Paydays and recruit some Pride guys quick before people loose interest!
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and get red of that ref hes blew the last 2 ufc with quick calls. even if he was helping shamrock ect. much more of that shit and no 1 will be ordering any ppvs.
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i have a fight on my PC between Vitor and Sak, and Sak actually runs at Vitor whilst hes grounded, jumps as high up in the air as he can and smashes down onto him. Its inspiring stuff!!!
UFC is a waste of time, i thought it was the dogs bollocks til i posted here and was told more about Pride
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this shamrock interview was posted on another site: http://www.insidefighting.com/betweenRoundsDisp.aspx?uid=3071
Reading it kinda makes me feel a little sorry for Shamrock...just a little
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this shamrock interview was posted on another site: http://www.insidefighting.com/betweenRoundsDisp.aspx?uid=3071
Reading it kinda makes me feel a little sorry for Shamrock...just a little
Maybe it's just me, but I think Shamrock should've thanked Herb Dean for saving his life.
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to me it just sounds like he's whinning and making excuses
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Maybe it's just me, but I think Shamrock should've thanked Herb Dean for saving his life.
Agreed. Ken didn't know where he was. I like Herb Dean and I think he does a good job. I would not be surprised if he had orders from Dana to be careful of Ken. I mean they guy almost had a heart attack in the ring against Fujita, and seems mentally unstable.
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i still say it was a bullshit call, and a massive one at that. The Sak stoppage was just as bad
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Knees and elbows are extremely dangerous. in a split second, someone could die. This sport has already been on the verge of being completely banned. The ref's job is to protect the fighters, not to make a show for the people. Herb did what he thought was right to protect Ken.
This fight was a forgone conclusion. If you want to be upset at anybody, be upset with Dana White for allowing this stupid mismatch to take place. Not only for allowing it it take place, but making it (more or less), a main event. Now THAT is bullshit.
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I think there was generally more interest in that fight that the Tim Sylvia vs. Arlovski fight. I felt like the PPV was more about Tito and Ken than the title defense later in the evening. Drama sells.
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"Drama sells"
You are correct. But when it ends up like this, it also leaves a bad taste. With this and the Hughes-Gracie fiasco, Dana has served up two major embarrassments. He better get back to booking competitive matches and leave the WWE shite to Vince.
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Ken Shamrock is a little bitch.