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I was re-reading the July 1991 issue of Flex magazine when I came across an article about Ripped Richie's leg program.
At the beginning of the article, Gaspari wrote:
"In my early years of squatting, I went as high as 750 pounds and was doing 405 for 35 reps and 465 for 20"
I know he was like 5 feet tall, a definete advantage for squatting, but I'm not entirely convinced these figures are 100% accurate.
Any thoughts?
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/rich10.jpg)
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Gaspari was known to be a lot stronger than his training partner Haney,however those numbers are a little high for a midget.
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No way gaspari was stronger than haney on upperbody movements!
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He was known as the dragon slayer, at 18 he could squat like 730 pounds which was a record then or close to it. There is a article writtin on bodybuilding.com, and he talks about his training
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/planet53.htm
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ive never seen Haney bench more than 315 or curl more than 50. His legs werent exactly stellar either so who knows.
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ive never seen Haney bench more than 315 or curl more than 50. His legs werent exactly stellar either so who knows.
Then you've never seen him train! ::) Here is a clue.. check out his training video!
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I dont believe this at all.
Now a day I am surrounded by people bigger than him and almost nobody can do it.(Mmmmm I doubt that Paco can do it that much reps with that weight....Ogawa can do 15 reps with 667lbs.)
I can do 10 reps deep squat with 440lbs and my weight is 200lbs...So i am near from him. Imagine that.
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ive never seen Haney bench more than 315 or curl more than 50. His legs werent exactly stellar either so who knows.
haney does reps in the flat bench with 495 in his training video ::)
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Gaspari was known for his strength.
Haney, while obviously a great bodybuilder, wasn't an especially heavy lifter most of the time. His oft-stated training philosphy was "stimulate, don't annihilate" and it clearly worked for him!
Gaspari's strength claims are legitimate and completely believable.
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Gaspari may have been Haney's Training partner, but that doesn't justify those strenght claims
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haney does reps in the flat bench with 495 in his training video ::)
i never said he couldnt lift heavier, i just said ive never seen him lift heavier. I have nevr had an interest in him because i just dont like the guys physique. I prefer Fox and Gaspari from that era, cnt say why really but i just dont find haney interesting for some reason.
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Yes gaspari was that strong,as for saying guys bigger than him cannot do that look at franco he was way stronger than arnold.
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I was re-reading the July 1991 issue of Flex magazine when I came across an article about Ripped Richie's leg program.
At the beginning of the article, Gaspari wrote:
"In my early years of squatting, I went as high as 750 pounds and was doing 405 for 35 reps and 465 for 20"
I know he was like 5 feet tall, a definete advantage for squatting, but I'm not entirely convinced these figures are 100% accurate.
Any thoughts?
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/rich10.jpg)
I will vouch for all those claims. I tried with Rich 2 years. They were the most grueling workouts ever.
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I will vouch for all those claims. I tried with Rich 2 years. They were the most grueling workouts ever.
that must of have been awesome!!
Rich was known for being one of the most intense trainers ever!
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richie was that strong,i witnessed him doing those poundages back in 83 in golds gym in milltown new jersey
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richie was that strong,i witnessed him doing those poundages back in 83 in golds gym in milltown new jersey
Good ole Milltown Gold's..I heard it's called something else but Ron still owns it. Rich and I had some great workouts in that gym.
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240 or Bust claims 405 lbs for 20 reps after 2? years of training. Natural.
Now, Gaspari ain't no 240 or Bust... 8)
YIP
Zack
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that must of have been awesome!!
Rich was known for being one of the most intense trainers ever!
Mike,
It sad to say that I never hit those workouts ever again. It was all down hill after that...lolol
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some say rich was strong, but i dont believe those numbers. not like he had big bones and joints (ex. ed coan). those numbers are def. exagerrated. well, i think they are.
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Personally I think alot of the athletes do not train as heard as athletes of the yesteryear but I think many of us can agree on that.
As someone claimed....many of the Pros now don;t do that but again how many Pros train with the intensity of a Columbo, Gaspari or Rhino
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Personally I think alot of the athletes do not train as heard as athletes of the yesteryear but I think many of us can agree on that.
As someone claimed....many of the Pros now don;t do that but again how many Pros train with the intensity of a Columbo, Gaspari or Rhino
stop kissing ass. you've never seen or even heard how rhino (jack london) trains.
by the way, he really isnt a pro. maybe a PDI "pro", but so is everyone on this board.
nothing against rhino, best of luck at the NOC.
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haney does reps in the flat bench with 495 in his training video ::)
bullshit.
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stop kissing ass. you've never seen or even heard how rhino (jack london) trains.
by the way, he really isnt a pro. maybe a PDI "pro", but so is everyone on this board.
nothing against rhino, best of luck at the NOC.
Hey jackass I in fact do know how he trains.....moderately heavy in the 8-12 rep range. Putting his name with everyone else was a joke.
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haney does reps in the flat bench with 495 in his training video ::)
the heaviest I've seen Haney do was 405 for 6 in his Mr. Olympia Workout Video (only 3 bucks on ebay!)
he certainly wasnt doing it with ease either
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muscle size does not equal strength, and there are many contributing factors to srentgth, i.e. leverage, being short helps, but so does bone length and tendon attachments.
I have no proof, but I have heard he was extremely strong for a bodybuilder.
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You guys should read the thread. If you did you would see IFBB pro and stand up guy J Mentis ha confirmed the lifts. he trained with him. Did any of you smart guys?
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I doubt he could do a full squat with 750. That would put his deadlift at well over 800 lb. My guess is that he stopped a few inches above parallel. Still a damn good lift.
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I doubt he could do a full squat with 750. That would put his deadlift at well over 800 lb. My guess is that he stopped a few inches above parallel. Still a damn good lift.
I am surprised you know what a squat or deadlift is.. beachbody bob!
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You guys should read the thread. If you did you would see IFBB pro and stand up guy J Mentis ha confirmed the lifts. he trained with him. Did any of you smart guys?
chick also said tom prince weighs 230. :P
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I am surprised you know what a squat or deadlift is.. beachbody bob!
Keep living in your fantasy world, little boy. You're one step away from being one of those raving lunatics on the street corner. Get help before it's too late.
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Lets see... im a full time employee of his. I have WITNESSED (keep in mind he is CLEAN now) RECENTLY maybe 6 months ago
15 plates per side leg press
AFTER that 405x12 squat
85lb DB lunges for god knows how far had to be 3 lengths of the gym back n forth
Hes a madman. He looks like hes failing on rep 3 and gets 15 i swear it. He turns red, looks insane, and PUSHES and PUSHES.
I also know people who will swear theyv personally seen him do 110lb front DB raises. Rich is nuts... now try workin for him every day lol wouldnt wanna work for anyone else its always interesting and funny, good thing hes got a good sense of humor cuz im nuts also
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Lets see... im a full time employee of his. I have WITNESSED (keep in mind he is CLEAN now) RECENTLY maybe 6 months ago
15 plates per side leg press
AFTER that 405x12 squat
85lb DB lunges for god knows how far had to be 3 lengths of the gym back n forth
Hes a madman. He looks like hes failing on rep 3 and gets 15 i swear it. He turns red, looks insane, and PUSHES and PUSHES.
I also know people who will swear theyv personally seen him do 110lb front DB raises. Rich is nuts... now try workin for him every day lol wouldnt wanna work for anyone else its always interesting and funny, good thing hes got a good sense of humor cuz im nuts also
TP knows of what he speaks so believe him. TP, I heard that some guy tried you out for your last show and did a pretty good job. ;)
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I will vouch for all those claims. I tried with Rich 2 years. They were the most grueling workouts ever.
What exactly did you try?
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What exactly did you try?
Everything that Rich did. Apparently he failed. ;D
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haney does reps in the flat bench with 495 in his training video ::)
Haney does 6 reps with 405 in the flatbench in his video the reps are done in a slow strict fashion with the bar touching his chest each rep , then he high-fives Rope-man .
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Gaspari and Mentis ROCK!!!!!!!
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Gaspari and Mentis ROCK!!!!!!!
I agree. ;D
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Everything that Rich did. Apparently he failed. ;D
Yes, I failed Disgusted...LOLOLOL..lif e just sucks!!!..lolol
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chick also said tom prince weighs 230. :P
Ya but Mentis isnt an idiot!!!!!
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Yes, I failed Disgusted...LOLOLOL..lif e just sucks!!!..lolol
Just jokin bro. I'm sure I couldn't use your warm up weight. :P
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Just jokin bro. I'm sure I couldn't use your warm up weight. :P
No harm brother...I have a good sense of humor...just having some fun.
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I was re-reading the July 1991 issue of Flex magazine when I came across an article about Ripped Richie's leg program.
At the beginning of the article, Gaspari wrote:
"In my early years of squatting, I went as high as 750 pounds and was doing 405 for 35 reps and 465 for 20"
I know he was like 5 feet tall, a definete advantage for squatting, but I'm not entirely convinced these figures are 100% accurate.
Any thoughts?
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/rich10.jpg)
Yes---he is telling the truth. He was quite strong.
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Lets see... im a full time employee of his. I have WITNESSED (keep in mind he is CLEAN now) RECENTLY maybe 6 months ago
15 plates per side leg press
AFTER that 405x12 squat
85lb DB lunges for god knows how far had to be 3 lengths of the gym back n forth
Hes a madman. He looks like hes failing on rep 3 and gets 15 i swear it. He turns red, looks insane, and PUSHES and PUSHES.
I also know people who will swear theyv personally seen him do 110lb front DB raises. Rich is nuts... now try workin for him every day lol wouldnt wanna work for anyone else its always interesting and funny, good thing hes got a good sense of humor cuz im nuts also
I'm sitting here reading this and cracking up...You are sooo right. When we trained together he would look like he was done after 4 reps and I would say to myself and to him that I got him beat and he would pull 10 reps out of nowhere. He had heart.
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Good ole Milltown Gold's..I heard it's called something else but Ron still owns it. Rich and I had some great workouts in that gym.
Then,Jimmy..Is it true that Rich was that strong?
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Ok, great, it is one thing to be able to push yourself when training and another to squat a raw 750 lbs. I SERIOUSLY doubt Richie ever did it.
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Why do guys who are 5'10 or 5'11 call guys who are 5'8 or 5'9 midgets? ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Interesting.
But, who is the stacked chick on the gaspari nutrition adds with like the 10 inch waist and double D chest????
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Interesting.
But, who is the stacked chick on the gaspari nutrition adds with like the 10 inch waist and double D chest????
Marzia Prince. She will be at the Booth at the O. Stop by.... il get Dzulboy to sign an autograph for ya if u want lol
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Rich was legendary for how hard and heavy he trained. If you ask people that were around in the 1980's who the top two hardest-training bodybuilders of the era were, the two names that come up again and again are Rich Gaspari and Tom Platz.
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I normally dont believe many of the strength claims by bodybuilders,but in this case ,I believe it.I know quite a few guys that trained with him or around him back in the day,and everyone says he was a beast in the gym.In fact,everyone I have spoken to said he was the only guy they ever saw that actually got stronger as the workout continued.
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I can't remember if it was Rich or Platz but I remember a story going around that the person was squating so hard that they blew out a blood vessel in thier eye! That's some hard ass training.
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I can't remember if it was Rich or Platz but I remember a story going around that the person was squating so hard that they blew out a blood vessel in thier eye! That's some hard ass training.
That was Platz. He mentioned that in an interview once. Although it wouldn't surprise me if it happened to Gaspari too.
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GAspari's wide-grip below-parrarel barbell rows looked painful and useless
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Gaspari was known to be a lot stronger than his training partner Haney,however those numbers are a little high for a midget.
I did not think They were training partners. Haney is from Atlanta and trained with ropeman ty Felder. Gaspari is from New Jersey. ???
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I did not think They were training partners. Haney is from Atlanta and trained with ropeman ty Felder. Gaspari is from New Jersey. ???
Know your history, youngblood. :) Haney and Gaspari were definitely training partners for a time. They had a lot of respect for each other for that reason. I believe Rich would go down south to train with Haney early in his pro career. Haney may not have been known for using ridiculously heavy weight, but I remember reading that Rich was in awe of some of the things Lee would do in the gym.
Lee is a country boy (like Ronnie) from South Carolina, and used to hard work. I think Rich took the experience of training with Lee and added in his own blue-collar Jersey work ethic to become one of the most intense trainers ever.
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I can't remember if it was Rich or Platz but I remember a story going around that the person was squating so hard that they blew out a blood vessel in thier eye! That's some hard ass training.
lol idid this fucking one time the gir thoguht i had an anourism (sp?)