- If the quality of the physique was the only variable in question, then yes, bodybuilding competitions would consist solely of African-American competitors.
- However, considering the politics and the fact that rich white men masturbate in the judging panel and in the grandstand, its safe to say there will always be an assorted mix of nationalities, ethnicities, and posing trunk cuts/styles/colors for the sake of variety.
- If the quality of the physique was the only variable in question, then yes, bodybuilding competitions would consist solely of African-American competitors.Major Bullshit.
The statement was an exaggeration.I'd appreciate it if you didnt try to sound so fucking smart and scientific with every god damn post. you know? we get itt man... you know some big words. big fuckin deal.
I'd appreciate it if you didnt try to sound so fucking smart and scientific with every god damn post. you know? we get itt man... you know some big words. big fuckin deal.
I've noticed a lot of great bodybuilders who are half black and half white. I think we will start to see a lot of individuals who are mixed races dominating the sport more and more in the years to come. I have a good friend who is half black and half white and he's the most genetically gifted bodybuilder I've ever seen. I really think that's the future of bodybuilding, and the most racially mixed people seem to come from the US where bodybuilding is the biggest. I personally think that whites seem to have better structured physiques as far as bodybuilding is concerned but blacks usually have more muscle. I'm speaking in generalities, there are a lot of great bodybuilders that are black and have great stucture. Flex Wheeler was amazing and and so is Dexter Jackson among many others, too many to list. I just personally think that when you mix races you get the best of everything and thats the direction this sport will go. just my .02You may have a point.Dillet a prime example.
blacks in america are different from african blacks. in africa you wont see nearly as impressive of physiques in proportion to the population. slavery wasnt a random selection, it was very specific as to who was selected based on who would be the most likely to survive the trek, i.e. the biggest, healthiest, and strongest of the lot.
bodybuilding has always been a western (and therefore US) centric activity, and subsequently the blacks will excell at a high rate, as they do in other sports where brute strength and power is essential.
also despite the fact that many blacks in the US have white ancestors, because black genes are dominant they are still seen as "black" despite their mixed heritage, whereas most "whites" have no black ancestors. so blacks get credit for their black genes and black genes only, despite their white ancestry.
basically my thesis is that if bodybuilding is biased toward western nations and since blacks in such nations were bred to be genetically superior, they will dominate for the foreseeable future.
which is why guys like dexter jackson look fucking insane. who wouldnt have wanted that guy on working for you if you were back in 1655. call me racist, but thats history and those are the facts.
Have you just read the history of negro bodybduilding?
blacks in america are different from african blacks. in africa you wont see nearly as impressive of physiques in proportion to the population. slavery wasnt a random selection, it was very specific as to who was selected based on who would be the most likely to survive the trek, i.e. the biggest, healthiest, and strongest of the lot.I do agree in part with your assesment but also remember the whites in the Viking age with superior genetics have also given the white race an advantage in Strongman competitions, as i have said before it comes down to skeletal predipositions with the top Black bodybuiders being blessed with Ecto-Mesomorph structures compared to more mesomorph traits in whites.
bodybuilding has always been a western (and therefore US) centric activity, and subsequently the blacks will excell at a high rate, as they do in other sports where brute strength and power is essential.
also despite the fact that many blacks in the US have white ancestors, because black genes are dominant they are still seen as "black" despite their mixed heritage, whereas most "whites" have no black ancestors. so blacks get credit for their black genes and black genes only, despite their white ancestry.
basically my thesis is that if bodybuilding is biased toward western nations and since blacks in such nations were bred to be genetically superior, they will dominate for the foreseeable future.
which is why guys like dexter jackson look fucking insane. who wouldnt have wanted that guy on working for you if you were back in 1655. call me racist, but thats history and those are the facts.
what the hell are you talking about
You guys are overlooking a key fact in this discussion. Hard work. Yes its good to have good genetics, but at the end of the day all pros take the same shit, but it comes down to who trains harder and diets smarter. Take Dorain's wins over Flex, Kevin, and Dillet. This guys seemingly had better structures and genetics but Dorain outworked them. Same with Ronnie. It's the best overall package that wins shows, not best genetics or god-given structures.
With the exception of Ronnie/Shawn, black bodybuilder are generally lazy trainers.
Darth, I agree to a point. However, Dorian had awesoem genes for bodybuilding. He had a relatively small waist (early in his career), amazing calves and a thick torso. His legs and arms never were world beaters, but the man was stacked. Flex never won the Mr. Olympia as he looked smal next to Dorian. His shape was infinitely better, but he was not wide. This became more apparent when Ronnie became Ronnie and had the symmetry of Flex and more muscle than even Dorian. However, all world class bodybuilders have awesome genetics.
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She has the genetics to look damn fine....
Yeah...you got that right....but the few have what it takes to be top flight Olympic athletes. I cant say the same for bbing. It will always be about the sauce. Ben Weider was out of his mind thinking bbing would be added to the Olympics. And we all know what these guys look like when they train natural. Probably more blacks are picking it up now than in yrs gone by. That's about it.True, many are picking it up because of 50 Cent, LL ,and Nelly. In order to look hard you gotta have the body, can't be no 5'9 130 pound guy with a du-rag. Somebody at work was saying they were trying to look like the dude in a Dr. Dre video (back in the day), that was ideal to him. Dude didn't know that was Flex Wheeler
No look at the calves of African Americans ;DWhites and Blacks have an equal number of top tier pros, also look at strongman competitions whites dominate,Blacks are a powerful force in sprinting where they dominate but sports like Football and Basketball i believe socio economics play a big part in this.
The only thing i believe is people of African heritage have slight edge in bone structure where there are more blessed with ecto.meso bone structures than whites who appear to tend towards pure mesomorphs.
Um Yeah Right....Tom Prince look like a pure mesomorph too...while on juice. Let me not have to pull up some old arnold pics to further make my point.
Truth of the matter is African Americans dominate all sports and if they are not dominate in a particular sport it is not because they are not good at it...it is because they don't participate in it. You brought up Worlds Strongest Man competitions as an example. For one there is no money in that sport (compared to Football, Baseball, Basketball where Blacks DOMINATE)...it is very infrequently seen (not a national sport ot activity), these sports like soccer, cricket, lacrosse, etc are not BIG in america...as a matter of fact relative to the BIG THREE...these sports are non-existant. In certain European and East block and Russian nations Strong Man competitions are still popular, so therefore the people of these nations still participate actively in them, which is why the sport is played primarily by European/Russian whites...even whites in america don't participate in this sport that much. So far as body types go white are vastly ecto and endo morphs...Thin framed or carrying a large fat to muscle content. Don't go according to juicing athletes, who can start as an ectomorph and change to an mesomorph (so long as they stay on the juice) look at the frame work of the people in general and you will see that African American, Hispanics, Polynesians and Africans lean heavily toward Mesomorphs in their natural state, which gives them a great advantage in sports requiring speed and/or power.
there is no Russian nations/bloc the soviet union broke up in 91 and even then they weren't considered russian. So they're Eastern European or Slavic.
Anyway is there any concise history on how slaves where chosen and from what region they came from to go to the USA and South America.
If you look at the most recent USA's you''ll see the top placing bodybuilders were all black.. Im not trying to start anything here, but it seems like that would be the case now a days..
Discuss?
I guess defining what a sport is and isn't would be a whole other deiscussion.
If we lose the term loosely and look at what is covered at sports, please explain dominate?
Don't forget boxing. White are taking over that sport.
who else is there?
Joe calzaghe and ricky hatton are doing the whiteys proud, who else is there?
our 'enry and joe bugner?
A more important topic of discussion is can you be a black musclebear?
The three greatest bodybuilders of all time have been white:
1] Reeves
2] Arnold
3] Dorian
Black guys [other than Ronnie] are lazy. Bodybuilding is a white mans sport.
The three greatest bodybuilders of all time have been white:
1] Reeves
2] Arnold
3] Dorian
Black guys [other than Ronnie] are lazy. Bodybuilding is a white mans sport.
Utter silliness if ever I've heard it. Or, did you forget of another 8-time Mr. Olympia, by the name of Lee Haney. Let's hear how "lazy" he was. ::) . As for an earlier claim about Oliva eating "crap", nothing could be further from the truth. Oliva was smart enough to know how to feed his body. Plus, he tried eating "clean", only to learn that it made him weaker, smaller, and often sicker.Haney only put some effort in whaen Dorian emerged from the swamps of England. Doz brought out the best in Haney - wish he'd stuck around for a couple of more years.
Oliva built a super physique, working 12-hour jobs in sweltering heat without a supplement contract. There was no MET-Rx or MuscleTech hooking him up with a buffet of free supplements. Today, how many bodybuilders do you hear whining about not being able to make it, because they don't have any sponsorship. To Oliva, manual labor was not the name of a fellow Cuban immigrant.
The bottom line is great bodybuilders are great bodybuilders, period.
How can you guys tell if white guys are superior to white guys? Your all covered by fat in america cause you are all lazy stool polishers!
Um Yeah Right....Tom Prince look like a pure mesomorph too...while on juice. Let me not have to pull up some old arnold pics to further make my point.Bullshit African Americans do not dominate all sport.Where did the Usa Basketball team finish in the last Olympics?Strongman competitors get paid well more than Bodybuilders with the exception of 3 or 4 high profile Bodybuilders.Dillet is half White,Levrone is half Italian.African Americans do not have acess to swimming pools,Golf courses,Marathon running how many other sports would you like me to quote, there are dozens more where blacks are not dominating.The world sport of Soccer is not dominated by blacks,Give me a fucking break.Darrem charles,Flex Wheeler,Phil Heath,Dexter Jackson are all Ecto Mesomorphs yes there are a number of pure mesomorphs in the American African community who do extremly well in bodybuilding.
Truth of the matter is African Americans dominate all sports and if they are not dominate in a particular sport it is not because they are not good at it...it is because they don't participate in it. You brought up Worlds Strongest Man competitions as an example. For one there is no money in that sport (compared to Football, Baseball, Basketball where Blacks DOMINATE)...it is very infrequently seen (not a national sport ot activity), these sports like soccer, cricket, lacrosse, etc are not BIG in america...as a matter of fact relative to the BIG THREE...these sports are non-existant. In certain European and East block and Russian nations Strong Man competitions are still popular, so therefore the people of these nations still participate actively in them, which is why the sport is played primarily by European/Russian whites...even whites in america don't participate in this sport that much. So far as body types go white are vastly ecto and endo morphs...Thin framed or carrying a large fat to muscle content. Don't go according to juicing athletes, who can start as an ectomorph and change to an mesomorph (so long as they stay on the juice) look at the frame work of the people in general and you will see that African American, Hispanics, Polynesians and Africans lean heavily toward Mesomorphs in their natural state, which gives them a great advantage in sports requiring speed and/or power.
I'd have to say that the Hispanics are dominating in baseball more than the blacks. Basketball is dominated by blacks more than any other sport, because it requires a combination of endurance, speed, height, and long arms. I wouldn't say that bodybuilding is becoming a black sport. There are many nationalities that are represented in the IFBB. I don't think that there is a single race that has superior genetics for bodybuilding, it has more to do with who your parents were. If your parents were athletic or worked physical jobs, chances are that their kids will excell in physical activities. That's probably why you see so many athletes in proffesional sports that come from less economically successful families. More often than not, their parents work physical jobs and pass on to their kids not only their genes for adapting to physical stress but also a strong work ethic. Combine those two and you have someone who will excell in athletics provided that they chose a sport that suits their height.With the exception of Basketball and African Americans i agree with your statements.
Almost all black Americans have white ancestry. Many slave owners had sex with their slaves, resulting in significant admixture of white genes into the "black" population. It is my belief that many of the "superior" physical characteristics of black Americans were actually inherited from whites. Northern Europeans tend to be very big and strong people. Pure black Africans, on the other hand, tend to have a slender build, but possess superior muscle speed. Combine these two gene pools together, as what happened during the slave days, and you have the perfect athlete.
Black athletic superiority is largely a myth anyways. There are dozens of sports in the Olympics, only a handful of which are dominated by blacks.
Alex, most of the great bodybuilders of all time were Amirican. Don't be a stool sample.
Bullshit African Americans do not dominate all sport.Where did the Usa Basketball team finish in the last Olympics?
Everyone on the face this earth has African ancestry. Do a little shift, wait generations and see what happens. GetBig is dangerous when amateur scientist do work.
DivCom, Ph.D., M.B.A. in a future near you
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Good work...Lee!
If your talking the, small waisted V-tapered look, then yes, blacks have an advantage. It has been said that the samll waist was an adaptation to the environment (good for running), but having high calves( (a detriment in bbing)., is good for explosive torque.That's well put. I hated the fact that my calvs are the way they are. The upside is that at my height and weight (6ft almost 250) I can dunk (with a lot of effort)on a baskebtall rim. Downside-I'M not a baller so it means NOTHING! I'd rather have the long full calf :-\
Whereas you look at European bodybuilder, specifically the ones German and Nordic ancestry, you see thick waists, upper torso, and big calves, good for strength.
What Sir William siad is quite true.
Now as far as being mixed, that is a mixed bag. Because a black (of biracial heritage) could inherit white traits that are bad for bbing (the wide waist), or good for bbing (the long calves). Levrone is mixed, but if you look at the 1993 O he looked odd in some way shape or fashion, he could put on the beef, but he had decent calves (until his later yrs). But his shape could not equal Flex Wheeler. I see no where in Dillett's physique where his white genes are dominant, he just looks like a big black man.
And speaking of Flex, if you look at his physique, you'll see he is third in a line of competitors with that type of shape. First was Jean Guillame (sp), next was Brian Buchanan (both competed at the same time), then Flex, then Melvin Anthony, next Darian Bond (little know pro bber), and then That Ghanain bber who had posted on here (his name excapes me) . Which leads one to conclude that, that type of physique has its origins in Ghana and nearby countries.
Haney only put some effort in whaen Dorian emerged from the swamps of England. Doz brought out the best in Haney - wish he'd stuck around for a couple of more years.
With the exception of Ronnie/Shawn, black bodybuilder are generally lazy trainers.
Sampson, your post is full of inaccuracies...too many to dispute.
IMO, blacks often dominate sports that require quickness and agility. Its a toss up with strength sports, but often you'll see people of European ancestry dominate in powerlifting and strongman. MMA is not dominated by any race of people and to me, that is the pinnicle of athletics...strength, speed, coordination, endurance, multi-discipline.
A great example of my hypothesis is football. Often defense and running backs are black (speed/agility) and the offensive line is of European ancestry (strength, less speed needed). Its hard to just say "white" cause that involves so many different countries and genetic traits. "Whites" comprise a huge variation of genetic traits. Plus, with all the mixing happening the divisions are becoming less distinct.
These is all in jest. Blacks make better runners because they spend their whole life grwoing up running away from the cops. The big white dudes form the US are pig farmers and eat all day as kids and work hard and get strong. Plus, you know those things you can put on your nose the Breathe Right Strips. The whole idea of that is to open you nasal passages. Blacks don't need them. Thye have huge nostrils anyways. So for their whole lives they have had a built in breath right strip and are used to inhaling large amounts of air to feed their lungs while running. Its all very simple. Blacks are far more superior than whites in sports. Just my insight ;D
Damn, Mercedes is hella FIERCE. GeezLouize! Anyway...
I would have to say the greatest BBs of all time is a mixture of negros and whites.
I do think negros have better genetics for BB or any athletics. Thats just how it is. I drive past the liquor sto'...not STORE...'sto' and see negros standing outside without shirts on in the summer drinking a 'foety'(40oz) of St Ives or Colt-45...fkn some of them have PERFECT 6 pack abs, striations and seperations in all their muscle groups...veings running up and down their arms and you know they dont ever train. It's just genetics. I wish more negores played hockey...hockey would be fun to watch again.
These is all in jest. Blacks make better runners because they spend their whole life grwoing up running away from the cops. The big white dudes form the US are pig farmers and eat all day as kids and work hard and get strong. Plus, you know those things you can put on your nose the Breathe Right Strips. The whole idea of that is to open you nasal passages. Blacks don't need them. Thye have huge nostrils anyways. So for their whole lives they have had a built in breath right strip and are used to inhaling large amounts of air to feed their lungs while running. Its all very simple. Blacks are far more superior than whites in sports. Just my insight ;D
is this suppose to be a joke? ::)no, it's called the truth.
no, it's called the truth.
no, it's called the truth.
Yea okay DAWG...Mr. 'the sound of putting a bullet in your brain'...okay G...
What onlyme was stating were complete scientific FACTS!!! Just turn on COPS or check out the NWA video 'Straight outta Compton'...see how they are running like the wind away from the cops?
Another theory is that something might be in the cherry...oh...I'm sorry...the RED KooLaid that we dont know about? Or in the Orange pop...I dont know.
I'll tell you what cuzz...I'll call you 'boy' and you call me 'MisserBlockHead'. Cool?hahahahahaha.
Please...sugar is the BLOODLINE in compton...thats why the negroe race is the sicket most unhealthy of all races(medically speaking) is because of the astronomical sugar intake along with grease and/or fat.
Hey cuzz...do you have a pitbull? How bout some Stacy Adam shoes?
I'll tell you what cuzz...I'll call you 'boy' and you call me 'MisserBlockHead'. Cool?
Please...sugar is the BLOODLINE in compton...thats why the negroe race is the sicket most unhealthy of all races(medically speaking) is because of the astronomical sugar intake along with grease and/or fat.
Hey cuzz...do you have a pitbull? How bout some Stacy Adam shoes?
So you obviously run with the CRIPS...you dont live in Compton but you know slang Compton Crips use...I'll stop calling you 'Blood' then.hahahaha, Sgt. D's poor keyboard, he's probably smashing the shit out of it right now.
There is WATER in 'RED' KooLaid...thats the secondary ingrediant next to sugar in your hood...all up in yo hood!
I do have a brain...I'm white! I dont have one per say but the ones I get are always so fresh and so clean clean and dont reek of low tide like your...'sistas'. BooYa!
Why els besides status quo do EDUCATED bruthaz go for the white bitches?
So you obviously run with the CRIPS...you dont live in Compton but you know slang Compton Crips use...I'll stop calling you 'Blood' then.
There is WATER in 'RED' KooLaid...thats the secondary ingrediant next to sugar in your hood...all up in yo hood!
I do have a brain...I'm white! I dont have one per say but the ones I get are always so fresh and so clean clean and dont reek of low tide like your...'sistas'. BooYa!
Why els besides status quo do EDUCATED bruthaz go for the white bitches?
hahahaha, Sgt. D's poor keyboard, he's probably smashing the shit out of it right now.
okay time to ignore this jackassMONSTER MELTDOWN!!!
Well, this was a decent thread....nice time to end it.
i agreeof course you do because you're getting owned like crazy.
Hey sarcasm...he should know a little something something about being OWNED. His ancestors did...'OWNED'. If his last name is something 'white' like...McDonald or Johnson or something...'OWNED' again.hahahahaha.
SgtD almost made me take off my belt...
Hey sarcasm...he should know a little something something about being OWNED. His ancestors did...'OWNED'. If his last name is something 'white' like...McDonald or Johnson or something...'OWNED' again.
SgtD almost made me take off my belt...
of course you do because you're getting owned like crazy.
Don't you mean...'juiced to the GILLS?'
Of course...why am I not suprised you said 'GRILLS'.
Pinpoint exactly how I use racial slurs. YOUR opinion is that I use racial slurs...
What happened to Woten? Is he a Blood or something? Did T-Bone or Rockett and the boyz in da hood pull a 1-8-7 all up in his ass?
When Ronnie came down and guest posed in Adelaide, Australia someone in the crowd asked him the question of black superiority in bodybuilding.
Ronnie answered by saying he believed that because white people had enslaved black people causing the weaker black people to be weened out of the population, thus ensuring that the black race became more stronger in genetics.
These kid of threads have always got the white boys pissed since this board has been created.
The FACT remain that 13% of the population is more DOMINANTE than 87% of the population.
That 13% is black.
Hate it or love it.
These kid of threads have always got the white boys pissed since this board has been created.The only thing that 13% of the population DOMINANTE(is that the ebonics ghetto version of 'dominate'?) over the other 87% is incarceration, poverty and being a drag on society in general. 80% of the PRISON population is...75% of children without fathers ARE? Uh huh...
The FACT remain that 13% of the population is more DOMINANTE than 87% of the population.
That 13% is black.
Hate it or love it.
stupid threadAgreed.
When Ronnie came down and guest posed in Adelaide, Australia someone in the crowd asked him the question of black superiority in bodybuilding.I highly HIGHLY doubt Ronnie said that...he doesnt have the vernacular, or language and communication skills to spit that statement out. I'm not saying he is dumb...just not one of the greatest speakers of our time thats all...the only thing you can get out of Ronnie is..." dats gooood, yep, nope...took a long time...uh huh...light wate...yea buddy...you know...gotta lift wates...yup....''
Ronnie answered by saying he believed that because white people had enslaved black people causing the weaker black people to be weened out of the population, thus ensuring that the black race became more stronger in genetics.
The only thing that 13% of the population DOMINANTE(is that the ebonics ghetto version of 'dominate'?) over the other 87% is incarceration, poverty and being a drag on society in general. 80% of the PRISON population is...75% of children without fathers ARE? Uh huh...
You people do have statistics, I'll give you that!
I highly HIGHLY doubt Ronnie said that...he doesnt have the vernacular, or language and communication skills to spit that statement out. I'm not saying he is dumb...just not one of the greatest speakers of our time thats all...the only thing you can get out of Ronnie is..." dats gooood, yep, nope...took a long time...uh huh...light wate...yea buddy...you know...gotta lift wates...yup....''
He speaks in sentence fragments and does it incoherently when he does. I cant imagine Ronnie using the words ''enslaved, population, weened, genetics, ensuring'. No way!
You've got some serious issues! Sessions cost about $95-$150 per hour. I have a friend or two that can helpI notice you have a white bicth as your avatar...hahahaha why am I not suprised? Typical. An EDUCATED brutha with a tatse for white bicthes...hahahahaha!!!! As sterotypical as the day is loong.
you. Unfortunately...my background is in pharma and biz...or I would lend a helping hand. Then again...they are black...as am I.
I notice you have a white bicth as your avatar...hahahaha why am I not suprised? Typical. An EDUCATED brutha with a tatse for white bicthes...hahahahaha!!!! As sterotypical as the day is loong.
The only thing that 13% of the population DOMINANTE(is that the ebonics ghetto version of 'dominate'?) over the other 87% is incarceration, poverty and being a drag on society in general. 80% of the PRISON population is...75% of children without fathers ARE? Uh huh...
You people do have statistics, I'll give you that!
If you look at the most recent USA's you''ll see the top placing bodybuilders were all black.. Im not trying to start anything here, but it seems like that would be the case now a days..WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHILL WITH THIS INSTEAD!!!!!!! http://www.zshare.net/video/in-the-thick-5-coffee-wmv.html (http://www.zshare.net/video/in-the-thick-5-coffee-wmv.html)
Discuss?
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Aight div...I'll give you that. Good answer...you like all different flavors. I remember you having a fondness of bad-ass Pintus up in Canada. Right?
There's a bit of Indian in Ms Pintus. I'm assuming you have a problem with her also. Mental illness can cover all shapes, sizes and colors.I have NO problem w/ Pintus...let me tell ya!
I do have a brain...I'm white!
There is no way that your white or u must be one of those white boys who like to pretend that they grew up in the projects!!! Or you watch the Ali G show too much. If you were watching COPS you would only see methed out trailer trash and you don't sound like them but You are hilarious, I love reading your posts!!!!!!! Keep em' coming
Who said that soccer was not dominated by black players ?You dumb loser. They were beaten by a bunch of white guys :-\
Look at the French National Team, that almost won the worldcup (lost penalty shoot-out after final was a draw)
- If the quality of the physique was the only variable in question, then yes, bodybuilding competitions would consist solely of African-American competitors.
- However, considering the politics and the fact that rich white men masturbate in the judging panel and in the grandstand, its safe to say there will always be an assorted mix of nationalities, ethnicities, and posing trunk cuts/styles/colors for the sake of variety.
Wow, that sounded incredibly racist.
Isn't this against the board rules? Saying that "rich White men masturbate in the judging panel, it's safe to say there will always be an assorted mix of nationalities, etchnicities, and posing trunk cuts/styles/colors for the sake of variety".
I think PraetorFenix should be banned. And no, you moron, Jay Cutler and Alex Fedorov have better genetics than 99.9% of Black pros. So, saying that White bodybuilders don't belong at the olympia stage is downright illogical and stupid.
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Well it wasn't. Its just that blacks, on average, have a better bone structure due to genetics.
Its pretty well known, too, that blacks need less juice on average for comparable growth.
You look for every possible opportunity to accuse others of racism. Get over it.
The demography that purchases retail supplements and subscribes to bodybuilding magazines is predominantly white. So are the fans that attend bodybuilding shows. It is only natural to maintain diversity in any sport / competition for the sake of mass appeal. Its business.
You are a cry-baby. You have poor reading comprehension and take everything out of context.
Its annoying to have to enunciate everything out for you like I would to a 5 year old.
Jay Cutler & Alex Federov don't have ideal bodybuilding genetics. Their waists are too wide.
Hardwork & pharmaceuticals have done a marvelous job to compensate for their natural deficiencies, but don't pretend that they are inherently better than most black professionals.
You mistake success for potential, when in fact success is merely realized potential.
Craig Titus & Hany Rambod acknowledge that blacks respond to a training/drug regimen with greater success and speed, on average, than their white counterparts. No racism here.
Merely statistics and hearsay. You obviously have some sort of agenda though since you are so quick to accuse everybody/anybody of racism.
we're all one human race
I'm a mutt...half mex/half irish. I LOVE when I hear comics make fun of mexicans and their sterotypes and when comics make fun of uptight geeky white people...LOVE IT!!!!
I knew I loved you for a reason!!! I'm a mutt too half blk/half irish and I married a mexican!!! hahaha I know our kids are jacked but they are too cute!!
This sgt. d is nothing but an assclown. Good work blockhead, maybe we can blow this cumdumpster straight out of this forum and right back into prison where he probably spent time for robbing a 7-Eleven to get money for a pair of Air Jordans.Thanks, cuzz...I OWN sgtd, believe me. Hahaha...know what? He always e-mails or pms Ron or Hedge and tries to turn me in...he likes to trick on people if his feelings get hurt.
From a physical aspect, those of African heritage generally have superior genetics in comparison to those of average Caucasian descent (or any other for that matter). I don’t see how their domination comes as much of a surprise. Hell, their population was enhanced through selective breeding for many generations here in North America.
Statements like this have been condemned as racist in the past but I can assure you I am not making these in a racist manner. It’s just plain genetics. They will TAKE OVER any sport in which they choose to participate (i.e. interest). As more get interested in BB it will end up like football and basketball. Occasionally you see a mixed or African athlete dominate a traditionally white sport (Tiger, Arthur Ash). I’m just waiting for the next black hockey superstar! lol
It’s about time all the racist rednecks realize that those of black heritage will likely always have an edge in terms of athletic competition of any kind. It’s not a black and white thing, it’s a science thing. Stop worrying about it, the game is already over.
Btw, I’m white…
Don't you mean...'juiced to the GILLS?'
Of course...why am I not suprised you said 'GRILLS'.
Pinpoint exactly how I use racial slurs. YOUR opinion is that I use racial slurs...
What happened to Woten? Is he a Blood or something? Did T-Bone or Rockett and the boyz in da hood pull a 1-8-7 all up in his ass?
Thats interesting DomesticG, I always say mullato girlz are my favorite flavor!Well baby, you can come on over anytime, we can have a nice multicultural 3-some, sing we are the world and eat some chittlins, menudo and Irish stew or corned beef and hash lol.
I knew you had feelings for me though...what time is yo man leaving tonite? Want me to call you?
This sgt. d is nothing but an assclown. Good work blockhead, maybe we can blow this cumdumpster straight out of this forum and right back into prison where he probably spent time for robbing a 7-Eleven to get money for a pair of Air Jordans.
Who are you? Have I ever talked to you before on getbig? Why do you feel the need to insult me when i have said nothing about you? Do you have another gimmick name on getbig ? ???
when you threaten to be a rat you earn enemies fast Sarge. I myself have gotten 15 pms warning me that you are a bigger rat than Alexxx. Just speaking the truth Sarge, don't tell on me ;D
240 said he can squat ova 400lbs for like 25 reps but did yall believe him?
Im no rat and this is just the internet. When I log off I forget about everything that goes on here.
Ask the mods or ron if I ever hit the report button on anybody on here. Go ahead Ask
Holla at that, DomesticG...ya, heard!Yes menudo is the best hangover cure but you have to drink a big red soda too. (I learned this in Texas where everyone thought I was hispanic) I do believe people are way too sensitive and need to grow a set or thicker skin. Life is too short to give a shit what anyone else thinks of u plus stereotypes r so much fun. So blockhead my soulmate u may come over @ 7:45 or a quarter to 8 or even 1945 (military time) if that suits you best. I enjoy your sense of humor because it matches mine so well. So if you happen to be in Alaska in the near future look a sista up!!!!!!!
Menudo is great for hangovers. I hate corn beef and stew. I'll sing with you...can I sway my head back and forth like I'm having a caniption fit like Stevie Wonder whn I get to his part?
Yea you see my luv...liberalism and politically correctness is what is wrong with this world we live in today. Everyone gets 'offended' and demand payback or justice or punishment. We even see it here on GETBIG that people can and will SUE the other person if their feelings get hurt. 240 knows a little about that.
Listen...I'll be by tonite around...7:45 to pick you up. If 7:45 is too early for you...then lets make it a quater to 8...youknowwhatImsayin?
What part of TX were you from. I know my way around The Lone Star State a little bit...
Actually I'm from Ohio. I was in the Air Force and was stationed in San Antonio for about 3 yrs. I love Texas, lots to do, great weather and food but I can't stand the Spurs so that was the only downfall. If you were ever bored you could always hit the River Walk for fun.
Alaska? WTF? Whats out there? What the hell is a mullato girl doing out there...HAHAHA My hubby is from Iowa and people are always like there are mexicans in iowa???
yo man a military kind of player? Fawk that...if you're ever in Chicago...hahaha...I'm easy to find. Hey...you wanna join my gang?
My man is still in the air force and this is our second time in Alaska. we met up here when I was still in we left for a few years and now we're back and it sucks.Summer is short and its light all day until about midnight than the sun sets for 3 hours and comes back up. You have to black out your windows to get some sleep.
I might be in Chicago for New Years with some friends and we have family around there.
Without a doubt the ugliest and worst looking person to ever walk on to a bodybuilding stage by accident...
Doesnt it look like Vince is a stinky smelly mofo? Looks like his skin would just smell like rotten pu$$y or something...
From a physical aspect, those of African heritage generally have superior genetics in comparison to those of average Caucasian descent (or any other for that matter). I don’t see how their domination comes as much of a surprise. Hell, their population was enhanced through selective breeding for many generations here in North America.
Statements like this have been condemned as racist in the past but I can assure you I am not making these in a racist manner. It’s just plain genetics. They will TAKE OVER any sport in which they choose to participate (i.e. interest). As more get interested in BB it will end up like football and basketball. Occasionally you see a mixed or African athlete dominate a traditionally white sport (Tiger, Arthur Ash). I’m just waiting for the next black hockey superstar! lol
It’s about time all the racist rednecks realize that those of black heritage will likely always have an edge in terms of athletic competition of any kind. It’s not a black and white thing, it’s a science thing. Stop worrying about it, the game is already over.
Btw, I’m white…
Arthur Ash hardly dominated tennis. You are trying real hard to prove your point but you're not succeeding. Fact is whites dominate the following:
world strongest man
powerlifting
weightlifting
gymnastics
swimming
tennis
golf - tiger is good, he's half black and one of the only ones succeeding in golf. It is certainly dominated by white men.
cycling
hockey
skating
skiing
wrestling
rugby
cricket
soccer
Should I go on?
What's left for blacks?
Some track & field events
football
basketball
Baseball is a toss up because there are just as many whites playing it if not more.
Thank you.
Arthur Ash hardly dominated tennis. You are trying real hard to prove your point but you're not succeeding. Fact is whites dominate the following:You forgot the ultimate fighting dominated by whites.
world strongest man
powerlifting
weightlifting
gymnastics
swimming
tennis
golf - tiger is good, he's half black and one of the only ones succeeding in golf. It is certainly dominated by white men.
cycling
hockey
skating
skiing
wrestling
rugby
cricket
soccer
Should I go on?
What's left for blacks?
Some track & field events
football
basketball
Baseball is a toss up because there are just as many whites playing it if not more.
Thank you.
What about curling? How about bob-sledding? It appears since negroes are 'tropical people' any game played in ice scares them plus its known that negroes aint good swimmers so maybe they associate ice with water so they shy away.I think black people have an edge in running and sports that involve a lot of explosive moments (short sprints) and jumping, like basketball, am. football, 100/200 m, ...
I also hear negores got bad night-vision. They cant see too good in the dark.
What's certainly interesting is the rise of mulatto athletes. For such a small % they are producing very good results.
Whats your view now, jarhead? You know...it will never ever go away. Racism is natural if you ask me...when a duck is born with a little red or black feather on top of its head and the other little duck dont have that...they will peck at it until its dead...they will kill the duck because its different.
If we were ALL translucent...we would hate the ones who were MORE translucent.
Arthur Ash hardly dominated tennis. You are trying real hard to prove your point but you're not succeeding. Fact is whites dominate the following:
world strongest man
powerlifting
weightlifting
gymnastics
swimming
tennis
golf - tiger is good, he's half black and one of the only ones succeeding in golf. It is certainly dominated by white men.
cycling
hockey
skating
skiing
wrestling
rugby
cricket
soccer
Should I go on?
What's left for blacks?
Some track & field events
football
basketball
Baseball is a toss up because there are just as many whites playing it if not more.
Thank you.
Has it occured to you that this domination in the sports you mentioned is by default (i.e. few blacks or other non-whites have any interest in those activities)?
Maybe you guys can help me:I aint a mullato but I do think mullato girls are quite tasty! Know whatImsayin?
I saw on tele the other day that a lot of mulatto babies have a darker spot on their back. Do you guys have it (blockhead/domestic godess)? Or do you know where i can find some more info on this?
Exactly....
Blacks dont WANT to play these sports. They arent interested in them and their percentage of participation is very low. They get no exposure to them at a young age like they do basketball and football in high school. You say I am trying hard to prove something. I think its actually you who is trying hard and doesnt want to accept reality. It's not like I enjoy the fact that they are genetically superior, at least I can recognize and accept it though. Those of you defending your cause (racist) are pathetic and remind me of the great white hope scenerio. Let it go, its clear to anyone with a brain that the genetic lottery is tilted in their direction slightly.
Trust me, the only reason we "whites" still have our sports is because they dont want them.
That is racist! Where the hell is Vince G? :P You are a straight playa luva, yo.
This argument is laced with emotion not fact.
Has it occured to you that this domination in the sports you mentioned is by default (i.e. few blacks or other non-whites have any interest in those activities)?
Has it occured to you that this domination in the sports you mentioned is by default (i.e. few blacks or other non-whites have any interest in those activities)?
Exactly....
Blacks dont WANT to play these sports. They arent interested in them and their percentage of participation is very low. They get no exposure to them at a young age like they do basketball and football in high school. You say I am trying hard to prove something. I think its actually you who is trying hard and doesnt want to accept reality. It's not like I enjoy the fact that they are genetically superior, at least I can recognize and accept it though. Those of you defending your cause (racist) are pathetic and remind me of the great white hope scenerio. Let it go, its clear to anyone with a brain that the genetic lottery is tilted in their direction slightly.
Trust me, the only reason we "whites" still have our sports is because they dont want them.
Maybe you guys can help me:
I saw on tele the other day that a lot of mulatto babies have a darker spot on their back. Do you guys have it (blockhead/domestic godess)? Or do you know where i can find some more info on this?
I never heard of this but many hispanics have what is called a mongolian spot on the lower portion of their backs. One of my boys has it and the other one doesn't.
I aint a mullato but I do think mullato girls are quite tasty! Know whatImsayin?I myself prefer mixed and black girls, or even latinas (with some black influence, the 'native' or mestizo look isnt my thing). But it's all good, i've had marrocon and white gf's as well.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060711065727AAbXjY9
I myself prefer mixed and black girls, or even latinas (with some black influence, the 'native' or mestizo look isnt my thing). But it's all good, i've had marrocon and white gf's as well.
"straight playa luva"
who says that ::)
Sgtd doesn know any better, jarhead...
He isnt educated. He's not one of those.
It is spin on slang, Sgt. No one says it, but most probably gathered the irony for themselves without having to have it explained to them like a 3rd grader. dumb ass.
Every one of your post has my name in it. You think about me all the time. I just checked your ip so I know who you are, you little shit. When seen your pics on here and all that gear you take isnt helping.MONSTER stalking!
You see jarhead...I was disciplined by uh...'The Big Cheese' through a PM a little while ago so I cant say what I normally would say.
I got had by ummm..'The Man'. You know...uh...'Him'...you know...uh...'The One'...
I'm on probation so I gotta play nice.
Say what you got to say. Ron aint going to do nothing to you, you little pussy. I will be glad to pay for your plane ticket so you can come down here. I got all your personal info, so keep talking shitBrutal MELTDOWN!!!
Wow, Sgt. D, you are the equivalent of the smartest kid with down syndrome. Is English your first language? Reading comprehension is obviously a stretch for you. It is okay. Some people are well. . . you know . . .special.
Brutal MELTDOWN!!!
How do you know I run gear, sgtd? It's because you troll me and know I post on the 'Steroid Board' alot.
Epic Obsession! I alredy OWN and OWNED you a plethora of times and now I am causing you to have a Monumental Meltdown.
Pay for a plane ticket to go down where? Where are YOU going anyway...you know I dont let you out of my fields. Quit 'trifilin'.
'trifilin' is a very common word used on a regular basis in the 'other' community opposite of mine.
'why you gotta be all trifilin?'
Now get back to work before you get another lickin...boy!!!!
Im not going to say anything else because it could be used against me in court.Your going to get yoursMEGA MELTDOWN!!!
peace
MEGA MELTDOWN!!!
" yea, judge...my feelings get hurt when TheBlockhead OWNS me in a brutal way on punk ass bodybuilding internet forum...I demand justice!'
Let me revise...'' Yea yea uh...ay dawg! ay! ay homey...ay judge...maaaan, dis blockhead thug nugga be all trifilin all up on getbig youknowwhatImsayin...I be gittin all owned and be havin meltdowns like a mofo...I dink im sufferin from post-traumatic owning disorder so I need to be gittin paid youknowwhatImsayin? ''
Que? I had to read that last post like 4 times to understand it.that is why u called theblockhead
'trifilin' is a very common word used on a regular basis in the 'other' community opposite of mine.
'why you gotta be all trifilin?'
Now get back to work before you get another lickin...boy!!!!
So I read in an internet Maskaev put to sleep the Rahman guy in the end of the match.
So I right 4 russian ( white! ) speaking guys ( of an USSR origin or wtf u spell it? ) hold the heavy weights in 4 main boxing feds?
Two questions:
How could you say Black man? Blacks are clearly no men, they are closer to Gorillas or other primates (no offense intended to these animals)
Is really bodybuilding an sport?
Today 4 russian speaking guys hold heavy weight divison in there 4 main boxing feds Klichko, Valuev, Maskaev, + 1 guy they are if being particularly correct are of an ussr ( sp? ) origin. Its the whole other world if meet in flesh. Money aside.
Russians are tuff bastards.......but they'll never beat our freaky black brothers from the states. Its a whole other world over here. 8)