Is Bodybuilding becoming a Black Mans sport? Like Football and Basketball is?

[divcom]

Getbig = Dangerous.

Meatheads with little - no true scientific knowledge formulating insane theories.

Bodybuilding = Drugs.

Prince without sauce looks/is average.

Michael Jordan and Andre Agassi have great genetics.  You can add Klaudia...an X-Olympic athlete... to the list of genetic superstars.

[Parker]

With the exception of Ronnie/Shawn, black bodybuilder are generally lazy trainers.

Explain Vic Richards, iot seems he just like to train, but didn't take to the dieting thing. And Lee Haney. And Of course Arnold's nemesis, Sergio, who ate crap, worked a full job and then trained, whereas Arnold was in Cali living on the beach (yes he trained hard)

If Flex where a lazy bber, Cormier would have siad something about it, because that who Flex used to train with back in the day, and it has been said that Cormier is one of the strongest bber when it comes to pushing exercises. And lets not forget Cormier and Levrone, who in ther own rights are very intense trainers. As is Darrem Charles. Dillett on the other hand...

Darth, I agree to a point.  However, Dorian had awesoem genes for bodybuilding.  He had a relatively small waist (early in his career), amazing calves and a thick torso.  His legs and arms never were world beaters, but the man was stacked.  Flex never won the Mr. Olympia as he looked smal next to Dorian. His shape was infinitely better, but he was not wide.  This became more apparent when Ronnie became Ronnie and had the symmetry of Flex and more muscle than even Dorian.  However, all world class bodybuilders have awesome genetics.

 

It has been said that Dorian had shitty genetics, but he had the work ethic. Look at his physique, it is kinda gross:wide ass waist, good quads, excellent back, small arms, great calves,  okay chest. What was really good is his grainy condition and his lats. And lets not forget that politics plays a heavy hand in judging, because Flex, Shawn or Kev should have at least one Sandow

She has the genetics to look damn fine....

[divcom]

She has the genetics to look damn fine....

Yeah...you got that right....but the few have what it takes to be top flight Olympic athletes.  I cant say the same for bbing.  It will always be about the sauce.  Ben Weider was out of his mind thinking bbing would be added to the Olympics.  And we all know what these guys look like when they train natural.  Probably more blacks are picking it up now than in yrs gone by.  That's about it.

[Parker]

Yeah...you got that right....but the few have what it takes to be top flight Olympic athletes.  I cant say the same for bbing.  It will always be about the sauce.  Ben Weider was out of his mind thinking bbing would be added to the Olympics.  And we all know what these guys look like when they train natural.  Probably more blacks are picking it up now than in yrs gone by.  That's about it.

True, many are picking it up because of 50 Cent, LL ,and Nelly. In order to look hard you gotta have the body, can't be no 5'9 130 pound guy with a du-rag. Somebody at work was saying they were trying to look like the dude in a Dr. Dre video (back in the day), that was ideal to him. Dude didn't know that was Flex Wheeler

[SAMSON123]

No look at the calves of African Americans ;DWhites and Blacks have an equal number of top tier pros, also look at strongman competitions whites dominate,Blacks are a powerful force in sprinting where they dominate but sports like Football and Basketball i believe socio economics play a big part in this.
The only thing i believe is people of African heritage have slight edge in bone structure where there are more blessed with ecto.meso bone structures than whites who appear to tend towards pure mesomorphs.

Um Yeah Right....Tom Prince look like a pure mesomorph too...while on juice. Let me not have to pull up some old arnold pics to further make my point.

Truth of the matter is African Americans dominate all sports and if they are not dominate in a particular sport it is not because they are not good at it...it is because they don't participate in it. You brought up Worlds Strongest Man competitions as an example. For one there is no money in that sport (compared to Football, Baseball, Basketball where Blacks DOMINATE)...it is very infrequently seen (not a national sport ot activity), these sports like soccer, cricket, lacrosse, etc are not BIG in america...as a matter of fact relative to the BIG THREE...these sports are non-existant. In certain European and East block and Russian nations Strong Man competitions are still popular, so therefore the people of these nations still participate actively in them, which is why the sport is played primarily by European/Russian whites...even whites in america don't participate in this sport that much. So far as body types go white are vastly ecto and endo morphs...Thin framed or carrying a large fat to muscle content. Don't go according to juicing athletes, who can start as an ectomorph and change to an mesomorph (so long as they stay on the juice) look at the frame work of the people in general and you will see that African American, Hispanics, Polynesians and Africans lean heavily toward Mesomorphs in their natural state, which gives them a great advantage in sports requiring speed and/or power.

[Drij]

Um Yeah Right....Tom Prince look like a pure mesomorph too...while on juice. Let me not have to pull up some old arnold pics to further make my point.

Truth of the matter is African Americans dominate all sports and if they are not dominate in a particular sport it is not because they are not good at it...it is because they don't participate in it. You brought up Worlds Strongest Man competitions as an example. For one there is no money in that sport (compared to Football, Baseball, Basketball where Blacks DOMINATE)...it is very infrequently seen (not a national sport ot activity), these sports like soccer, cricket, lacrosse, etc are not BIG in america...as a matter of fact relative to the BIG THREE...these sports are non-existant. In certain European and East block and Russian nations Strong Man competitions are still popular, so therefore the people of these nations still participate actively in them, which is why the sport is played primarily by European/Russian whites...even whites in america don't participate in this sport that much. So far as body types go white are vastly ecto and endo morphs...Thin framed or carrying a large fat to muscle content. Don't go according to juicing athletes, who can start as an ectomorph and change to an mesomorph (so long as they stay on the juice) look at the frame work of the people in general and you will see that African American, Hispanics, Polynesians and Africans lean heavily toward Mesomorphs in their natural state, which gives them a great advantage in sports requiring speed and/or power.

there is no Russian nations/bloc the soviet union broke up in 91 and even then they weren't considered russian. So they're Eastern European or Slavic.

Anyway is there any concise history on how slaves where chosen and from what region they came from to go to the USA and South America. 

[Woten]

there is no Russian nations/bloc the soviet union broke up in 91 and even then they weren't considered russian. So they're Eastern European or Slavic.

Anyway is there any concise history on how slaves where chosen and from what region they came from to go to the USA and South America. 

Yeah, I hear Darwin based all of his work on such studies LOL, I read this on that website that has all of those black inventions listed, so it must be true

That 'Nation of Islam invented the moon' item had me shoked to the core, shocked!!!

[Mr. Intenseone]

If you look at the most recent USA's you''ll see the top placing bodybuilders were all black.. Im not trying to start anything here, but it seems like that would be the case now a days..

Discuss?

This would be a great topic if bodybuilding were actually a sport......but it isn't!

[TonkaSalami]

I guess defining what a sport is and isn't would be a whole other deiscussion.

If we lose the term loosely and look at what is covered at sports, please explain dominate?

If you look at the Top 200 players in Golf, what percent is black?

While I am no big fan of soccer, it is dominated by white guys overall.

Hockey dominated by white guys.

Baseball - dominated by white guys, second comes hispanics, third is black guys.

Basketball - Let's not forget the NBA MVP for the last 2 years was Steve Nash.  The top three vote getters this year were Nash, Wade, and Novitzki - Two of them are white.  The majority of basketball teams are black when you look at % of each race.  Although, this is changing quickly because of the emergence of the International players.  Let's not forget the reigning world champs in international play in basketball is a team that beat the USA with a team predominantly white.

Football - this would be hard to say it is dominated by black players.  I look at football as a true team sport and coaching has so much to do with it.  What % of black head coaches are there?  What % of starting QB's are black?  Both of these numbers are growing, but still small compared to white guys.  99% of the kickers and punters are white.  Most teams still have a dominantly white offensive line.  In other parts of the game, RB, WR, and defense tend to be black.  But overall, hardly dominated by one specific race.

NASCAR - dominated by white guys.

If you go to a bodybuilding show at NPC level both regionally and nationally and look at the top 5 spots of all shows, I think you would find more white people are in those spots than black.  Figure and fitness - predominantly white.  Women's BB - mostly white.

Strongman - predominantly white.

Powerlifting - predominantly white.

So, first we'd have to define what constitutes a sport and second we'd have to define dominate.  At the very top level of bodybuilding right now, yes it is dominated by a black guy.

If you look at the best athletes in the world and somehow could define athlete, I would bet a black person would fill that role - but, sports aren't solely based on athleticism.

Just stuff to think about.

[brianX]

Almost all black Americans have white ancestry. Many slave owners had sex with their slaves, resulting in significant admixture of white genes into the "black" population. It is my belief that many of the "superior" physical characteristics of black Americans were actually inherited from whites. Northern Europeans tend to be very big and strong people. Pure black Africans, on the other hand, tend to have a slender build, but possess superior muscle speed. Combine these two gene pools together, as what happened during the slave days, and you have the perfect athlete.

Black athletic superiority is largely a myth anyways. There are dozens of sports in the Olympics, only a handful of which are dominated by blacks.

[brianX]

I guess defining what a sport is and isn't would be a whole other deiscussion.

If we lose the term loosely and look at what is covered at sports, please explain dominate?

Don't forget boxing. Whites are taking over that sport.

[davidpaul]

Don't forget boxing. White are taking over that sport.

Joe calzaghe and ricky hatton are doing the whiteys proud, who else is there?

our 'enry and joe bugner?

[Drij]

who else is there?

Wladimir Klitschko (UKR) IBF Champion
Nicolay Valuev (RUS) WBA Champion
Sergei Liakhovich (BEL) WBO Champion

Sultan Ibragimov (RUS/UZB)
Oleg Maskaev (KZA)
Ruslan Chagaev (RUS)

[Woten]

Joe calzaghe and ricky hatton are doing the whiteys proud, who else is there?

our 'enry and joe bugner?

self ownage methinks

[gordiano]

A more important topic of discussion is can you be a black musclebear?

I heard Vince G. tried to become a "Muscle Bear", but they told him to come back when he had muscle.............

[UK Gold]

The three greatest bodybuilders of all time have been white:

1] Reeves
2] Arnold 
3] Dorian

Black guys [other than Ronnie] are lazy. Bodybuilding is a white mans sport.

[MCWAY]

The three greatest bodybuilders of all time have been white:

1] Reeves
2] Arnold 
3] Dorian

Black guys [other than Ronnie] are lazy. Bodybuilding is a white mans sport.

Utter silliness if ever I've heard it. Or, did you forget of another 8-time Mr. Olympia, by the name of Lee Haney. Let's hear how "lazy" he was. . As for an earlier claim about Oliva eating "crap", nothing could be further from the truth. Oliva was smart enough to know how to feed his body. Plus, he tried eating "clean", only to learn that it made him weaker, smaller, and often sicker.

Oliva built a super physique, working 12-hour jobs in sweltering heat without a supplement contract. There was no MET-Rx or MuscleTech hooking him up with a buffet of free supplements. Today, how many bodybuilders do you hear whining about not being able to make it, because they don't have any sponsorship. To Oliva, manual labor was not the name of a fellow Cuban immigrant.


The bottom line is great bodybuilders are great bodybuilders, period.

[ether]

The three greatest bodybuilders of all time have been white:

1] Reeves
2] Arnold 
3] Dorian

Black guys [other than Ronnie] are lazy. Bodybuilding is a white mans sport.

The best three ever were not all white.

1) Arnold
2) Sergio
3) Ronnie (1998) or Flex (1993) or Dorian (1993)

Either way, there is at least 1 black dude in the top 3 ever

[UK Gold]

Utter silliness if ever I've heard it. Or, did you forget of another 8-time Mr. Olympia, by the name of Lee Haney. Let's hear how "lazy" he was. . As for an earlier claim about Oliva eating "crap", nothing could be further from the truth. Oliva was smart enough to know how to feed his body. Plus, he tried eating "clean", only to learn that it made him weaker, smaller, and often sicker.

Oliva built a super physique, working 12-hour jobs in sweltering heat without a supplement contract. There was no MET-Rx or MuscleTech hooking him up with a buffet of free supplements. Today, how many bodybuilders do you hear whining about not being able to make it, because they don't have any sponsorship. To Oliva, manual labor was not the name of a fellow Cuban immigrant.


The bottom line is great bodybuilders are great bodybuilders, period.

Haney only put some effort in whaen Dorian emerged from the swamps of England. Doz brought out the best in Haney - wish he'd stuck around for a couple of more years.

[alexxx]

How can you guys tell if white guys are superior to white guys? Your all covered by fat in america cause you are all lazy stool polishers!

[bmacsys]

How can you guys tell if white guys are superior to white guys? Your all covered by fat in america cause you are all lazy stool polishers!

Alex, most of the great bodybuilders of all time were Amirican. Don't be a stool sample.

[Yev33]

I'd have to say that the Hispanics are dominating in baseball more than the blacks. Basketball is dominated by blacks more than any other sport, because it requires a combination of endurance, speed, height, and long arms. I wouldn't say that bodybuilding is becoming a black sport. There are many nationalities that are represented in the IFBB. I don't think that there is a single race that has superior genetics for bodybuilding, it has more to do with who your parents were. If your parents were athletic or worked physical jobs, chances are that their kids will excell in physical activities. That's probably why you see so many athletes in proffesional sports that come from less economically successful families. More often than not, their parents work physical jobs and pass on to their kids not only their genes for adapting to physical stress but also a strong work ethic. Combine those two and you have someone who will excell in athletics provided that they chose a sport that suits their height.

[Campeon Del Mundo]

bodybuilding judging standards are racially biased against caucasians..

[Hendrix]

Um Yeah Right....Tom Prince look like a pure mesomorph too...while on juice. Let me not have to pull up some old arnold pics to further make my point.

Truth of the matter is African Americans dominate all sports and if they are not dominate in a particular sport it is not because they are not good at it...it is because they don't participate in it. You brought up Worlds Strongest Man competitions as an example. For one there is no money in that sport (compared to Football, Baseball, Basketball where Blacks DOMINATE)...it is very infrequently seen (not a national sport ot activity), these sports like soccer, cricket, lacrosse, etc are not BIG in america...as a matter of fact relative to the BIG THREE...these sports are non-existant. In certain European and East block and Russian nations Strong Man competitions are still popular, so therefore the people of these nations still participate actively in them, which is why the sport is played primarily by European/Russian whites...even whites in america don't participate in this sport that much. So far as body types go white are vastly ecto and endo morphs...Thin framed or carrying a large fat to muscle content. Don't go according to juicing athletes, who can start as an ectomorph and change to an mesomorph (so long as they stay on the juice) look at the frame work of the people in general and you will see that African American, Hispanics, Polynesians and Africans lean heavily toward Mesomorphs in their natural state, which gives them a great advantage in sports requiring speed and/or power.

Bullshit African Americans do not dominate all sport.Where did the Usa Basketball team finish in the last Olympics?Strongman competitors get paid well more than Bodybuilders with the exception of 3 or 4 high profile Bodybuilders.Dillet is half White,Levrone is half Italian.African Americans do not have acess to swimming pools,Golf courses,Marathon running how many other sports would you like me to quote, there are dozens more where blacks are not dominating.The world sport of Soccer is not dominated by blacks,Give me a fucking break.Darrem charles,Flex Wheeler,Phil Heath,Dexter Jackson are all Ecto Mesomorphs yes there are a number of pure mesomorphs in the American African community who do extremly well in bodybuilding.
Polynesions lean heavy toward mesomorph frames Bullshit they are built like solid brick outhouses my mates who are islanders are big motherfuckers.
As i am not an American nor African American it is quite obviuos the impoverished African Americans strive for sporting scholarships to get into college because American schools dominated by African Americans are substandard.By the way Tigerwoods is a quaterafrican American quater white and half Malaysian i cannot get over the domination of African Amercan dominating Golf.

I'd have to say that the Hispanics are dominating in baseball more than the blacks. Basketball is dominated by blacks more than any other sport, because it requires a combination of endurance, speed, height, and long arms. I wouldn't say that bodybuilding is becoming a black sport. There are many nationalities that are represented in the IFBB. I don't think that there is a single race that has superior genetics for bodybuilding, it has more to do with who your parents were. If your parents were athletic or worked physical jobs, chances are that their kids will excell in physical activities. That's probably why you see so many athletes in proffesional sports that come from less economically successful families. More often than not, their parents work physical jobs and pass on to their kids not only their genes for adapting to physical stress but also a strong work ethic. Combine those two and you have someone who will excell in athletics provided that they chose a sport that suits their height.

With the exception of Basketball and African Americans i agree with your statements.

[divcom]

Almost all black Americans have white ancestry. Many slave owners had sex with their slaves, resulting in significant admixture of white genes into the "black" population. It is my belief that many of the "superior" physical characteristics of black Americans were actually inherited from whites. Northern Europeans tend to be very big and strong people. Pure black Africans, on the other hand, tend to have a slender build, but possess superior muscle speed. Combine these two gene pools together, as what happened during the slave days, and you have the perfect athlete.

Black athletic superiority is largely a myth anyways. There are dozens of sports in the Olympics, only a handful of which are dominated by blacks.

Everyone on the face this earth has African ancestry.  Do a little shift, wait generations and see what happens.  GetBig is dangerous when amateur scientist do work.   

DivCom, Ph.D., M.B.A. in a future near you


Good work...Lee!